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Carry a big gun
« on: September 22, 2010, 09:10:47 pm »
Just a quick note to convey the message that I practice what I preach. Recently I did a podcast on carrying large guns. Basically, guns that are a G19 size or larger.

Today completes the 21st consecutive day of carrying my Glock at the 3:30 position in my IWB, M-Tac holster. It only takes 21 days to forge a habit. This holster is quite possibly changing the way I carry from AIWB back to 3:30 IWB. I train that way most of the time, so I'm beginning to think I should carry that way.

Today I made 4 business calls while carrying my G19. No problem at all. A loose but stylish untucked shirt and no one had a clue. They real key is to not act like you're carrying a gun. Something I forgot to mention in the podcast is that too often, I think, people who carry get paranoid that someone will find out they are carrying. So they get worried about it and literally act like they're carrying a gun. That will telegraph the fact that you are carrying and possibly ruin the secret. Just go about your day and normal activities as you normally would. People aren't looking for a gun, with the possible exception of other concealed carriers who probably don't care anyway.

Just yesterday I went to Walgreens late a night. There was a cop standing in front of the door just watching (what I don't know.) He looked at me but his eyes never looked anywhere but straight at my face. So it seems as though as long as you aren't doing anything wrong, even the cops aren't looking for carried guns.

Carry your big guns folks. Just make sure you have the proper belt, holster and clothing, you'll be just fine.
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    Re: Carry a big gun
    « Reply #1 on: September 22, 2010, 09:25:01 pm »
    I carry a 3" Model 29 every day.  Kramer OWB horsehide scabbard, 5.11 gunbelt.  Use an untucked shirt for a concealment garment.  Several companies make "casual dress" shirts that are designed for concealment.  A regular shirt will work too. :D
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    Re: Carry a big gun
    « Reply #2 on: September 22, 2010, 09:57:17 pm »
    Full sized Ruger SR9 every day here. Desantis OWB holster on a Beltman belt. Worrying about being outed isn't really much of a concern for me - I live in a gun friendly community, most everyone I know knows I carry, and I open carry pretty often.


    I certainly appreciate the value in carrying a gun that's easy to shoot and packs rounds that are numerous and/or large, but I know that a lot of people really are forced to choose between carrying a tiny gun or no gun at all.
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    « Reply #3 on: September 22, 2010, 09:59:45 pm »
    For some reason I'm always drawn to big guns.  I regularly carry my full-size USP, whether I'm wearing a suit or if I'm in a T-Shirt.  I figure if I can conceal a USP, I can conceal almost any gun.  Having it side by side with my full-size 1911, the 1911 seems like a commander or something.
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    « Reply #4 on: September 22, 2010, 11:36:21 pm »
    I carried a Glock 21 and two mags in a shoulder holster for years and currently carry a  Sig 226 9mm and two mags in a shoulder holster.  Once you get use to it the weight isn't a big deal.  It took longer to get accustomed to carrying the lighter Sig than it did to get use to the heaviness of the Glock when I began carrying it.

    As for concealing a full sized weapon I'm large framed so that helps and I also tend to wear very loose clothing a size or two too large.  Today I was walking around in a tshirt and jeans and you wouldn't be able to tell I was carrying unless you really took some time eyeballing me close up.  Even then you'd have only been able tell that there might have been something under my shirt, a back brace, an undershirt, suspenders or something.  If I would have had on a outer shirt, a flannel shirt or a jacket it would have been impossible to tell anything.
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    « Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 11:57:29 am »
    I agree on the big guns:) I carry my 1911 over 90% of the time, P3AT 100% of the time, and Taurus PT145 about 25-30% of the time lately. I also should note that I'm a hermit that works allot and doesn't leave the house/motorhome often so those numbers are my carry at home/outside(aside from the fact that I'm in Wisconsin at the moment and can't carry outdoors, but since I leave very infrequently it's not as much of an issue as I expected). I think the primary reason that I don't carry the 1911 all the time is because occasionally my back will start acting up, and sometimes I just can't have the weight on my back at all. My Keltec in any kind of belt position at that stage is too much. So then I goto a kangaroo style pouch for the PT145(smartcarry style), and pocket carry the P3AT and that's my light loadout:)

    Either way the biggest thing is to carry like you train or try to match your training to carry. That's one of the big reasons that I carry my 1911 as much as I do. I've got an airsoft gun that I've customized to match my carry 1911 and it allows me allot more training for allot less money than live fire(not a replacement but sure helps). If I had the option to get an airsoft gun to match my PT145 I would likely train more with it and carry more often but under the circumstances I'm the most comfortable with a 1911 platform.

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    Re: Carry a big gun
    « Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 06:10:48 pm »
    I carry either Govt or Commander 1911 IWB at 4:00, both bobtailed. Now I'm a skinny guy but with a loose shirt, nobody notices.

    As the OP stated, don't act like you're carrying and nobody will notice or care.
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    « Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 07:53:42 pm »
    XD9 Service at 3 o'clock. The gun disappears, but it is carrying the spare mags that is a pita. OWB carriers print badly and I can't find any IWB carriers locally to try out. Why do I carry 49 rounds of 9mm? Because I don't trust my fourth magazine.

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    « Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 07:55:42 pm »
    I carry either Govt or Commander 1911 IWB at 4:00, both bobtailed. Now I'm a skinny guy but with a loose shirt, nobody notices.

    As the OP stated, don't act like you're carrying and nobody will notice or care.

    And don't touch your gun or adjust it, lift it up, or keep checking to see if it's there.  I've actually seen people do that.
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    Re: Carry a big gun
    « Reply #9 on: September 24, 2010, 08:09:47 am »
     Sig 226 all the time  ;D

    When I'm working, 3:00 OWB holster.
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    And don't touch your gun or adjust it, lift it up, or keep checking to see if it's there.  I've actually seen people do that.
    Ditto.  I've noticed two people I otherwise wouldn't know were "packing". 

    Restrict "Touching" to immediately at/prior leaving an outfit.   I do that, sometimes my shirt or coat catches on my pistol,etc. and I 'Check" before leaving an outfit. 
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    « Reply #10 on: September 24, 2010, 11:54:35 am »
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    I carry either Govt or Commander 1911 IWB at 4:00, both bobtailed. Now I'm a skinny guy but with a loose shirt, nobody notices.

    I carry a Govt. 1911 every day.  I actually think it is easier to carry big guns IWB when you are skinnier.  Good belt and good holster are a must.
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    « Reply #11 on: October 01, 2010, 01:52:49 pm »
    For the longest time i carried either my SA M1911A1 .45acp  IWB or my Beretta 92FS 9mm IWB, at the 3 position, But I have put on some weight since then. I now carry them in SERPA 2 OWB with OWB mag pouches, Mostly i have gone to my P229 9mm for EDC in a SERPA2 for my needs. I am only 5ft 5inches tall and even with a loose T shirt I concealed those pistols very well when IWB. Since i live in Vermont, OWB open carry isn't a problem so i mostly carry that way now, But YMMV as far as your own states are concerned.
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    Re: Carry a big gun
    « Reply #12 on: October 04, 2010, 04:08:08 am »
    When I read the title - I was thinking "Desert Eagle .50 AE"! :rotfl THAT is a "BIG GUN".

    Then when I read the first post - and the criteria is Glock 19 or bigger - my thoughts were - "thats not a big gun".

    So basically - carry 9mm or larger.   :thumbup1

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    Re: Carry a big gun
    « Reply #13 on: October 04, 2010, 10:31:44 am »
    I would at least try it if I owned one...Luke, you ever going to make IWB's for Desert Eagles?   :rotfl
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    « Reply #14 on: October 04, 2010, 05:05:20 pm »
    I would at least try it if I owned one...Luke, you ever going to make IWB's for Desert Eagles?   :rotfl

    Had a quote out for one but the guy never called me back ;D

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    « Reply #15 on: October 05, 2010, 12:28:16 pm »
    I carry a Sig P6, which I guess is technically a "compact" gun, but the Germans considered it a duty pistol.

    Before that, I was packing a Taurus PT111, which really is a compact pistol. With Luke's Texas rig, the bigger gun actually conceals easier than the true compact ever did in the cheapo holster.
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    « Reply #16 on: October 05, 2010, 12:35:59 pm »
    I would say the P6 is a service sized pistol myself, it's nearly the same size as the 229 only thinner. I really can't say that I find a big difference in conceal-ability between the 226-220, or the P6-229 sized Sigs. At least in my testing ;D

    Though I still agree since I always carried my Taurus PT145 before building my own rigs and had a heck of a time concealing just it. Now I carry 2-3 guns with less concealment issues, no matter what you do on gun get a good holster. Now I also want to say I would love to build that holster for ya, but there are also other guys out there that make nice holsters and even if you don't buy something of mine, please do yourself the favor and get a good piece of leather because no matter what you carry it will help allot more than you would think. Oh and a good carry belt, that's another thing that allot of guys overlook and it helps a ton.

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    « Reply #17 on: October 05, 2010, 09:57:55 pm »
    With Luke's Texas rig, the bigger gun actually conceals easier than the true compact ever did in the cheapo holster.

    Quality leather make a huge difference.  I prefer carrying a bigger gun, but moving back to TX where open carry is a no-no and concealment has to be taken a bit more seriously (it was fairly casual in WV) I've backed off from N-frames and fullsize 1911's a bit (although I did wear a longslide 1911 around testing a new holster design back in the spring).

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    « Reply #18 on: October 22, 2010, 05:15:42 pm »
    I agree with you Bob, I carry a 229 OWB, with a shirt or jacket over it. I've only been found out twice, once was school by a guy who carries a .45 XD, and who always looks at people's waist to see who is carrying. The other time was at a barbeque, when an off-duty cop noticed the end of the holster sticking out from under my shirt when I sat down. It was funny, the first thing he said to me was, "So is that a full-size 1911 or Glock?"

    My concealed carry teacher told us that, in general, if you act like it's ok for you to carry a gun, anyone who notices will just assume that it's ok. In general I think that's true.

    I think it's more economical to buy a medium to large sized gun that is easy to shoot, and the make it work with an Adams Texas or a Comp Tac Minotaur, than it is to buy two or three guns for different purposes.

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    « Reply #19 on: October 28, 2010, 04:51:41 pm »
    I think it's more economical to buy a medium to large sized gun that is easy to shoot, and the make it work with an Adams Texas or a Comp Tac Minotaur, than it is to buy two or three guns for different purposes

    Who wants economy? I want to have a Sig for every shirt I own. Change them out like women swap handbags.

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