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Polishrifleman

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Right to Notify
« on: November 07, 2008, 01:32:31 pm »
I am a Washington and Utah CCW holder and a resident of Washington.  The Utah license requires notification to LEO the Washington license does not.  In the event I am pulled over etc... what is my position.  If the situation warrrants, or requested I will definately notify but as for the casual traffic stop?????

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    Re: Right to Notify
    « Reply #1 on: November 07, 2008, 01:45:01 pm »
    Well as soon as they run your information, for example if you get pulled over and they run your plates then check your record it will have a spot that lets them know that you have a CCP. From what my LEO friends have told me is that if you get pulled over for even a minor stop they already know you have the permit, but when you hand them the permit with your license and let them know if you are carrying or not it shows respect and is greatly appreciated. Several have even told me that when that happens they will usually just give a warning and let you go on your way.


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    Re: Right to Notify
    « Reply #2 on: November 07, 2008, 02:22:18 pm »
    I am a Washington and Utah CCW holder and a resident of Washington.  The Utah license requires notification to LEO the Washington license does not.  In the event I am pulled over etc... what is my position.  If the situation warrrants, or requested I will definately notify but as for the casual traffic stop?????

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    Re: Right to Notify
    « Reply #3 on: November 13, 2008, 09:29:57 am »
    You must obey the laws of the state you are in, not the state who issued the license.
    For good info on the different state laws check out http://www.handgunlaw.us/.

    Yeah, that.

    In FL where I live it's not required.  I haven't been so much as pulled over in over 11 years, but if I did get pulled over, I would probably disclose it appropriately and try to not make the guy/gal pulling me over uncomfortable.

    What makes sense to me, if pulled over, is to roll down the driver's window, turn on the inside light (if it's nighttime), get my license, registration, and CWP out in the left hand, and then put both hands on top of the steering wheel in plain sight.  I have been told that doing this (especially turning on the inside light and keeping both hands out in clear sight) should allay the concerns of a patrol cop.  Although not required to disclose being CCW, I have been told it's a good idea to bring it up in case you're asked to step out of the car or something and then cop would then learn of it and think you'd been trying to hide something.

    If you're going to disclose that you're carrying, I think handing over the permit without saying anything else is the thing to do.  If the cop asks, then and only then say what you have (e.g. a pistol) and tell him where it is.  While it should be ok to say "I have a concealed gun and a permit" it's way too easy to see how someone pulling you over would only hear the "I have a gun" part and jump to the wrong conclusion.  Better I think to do it the other way by handing over the permit, and only say more if it's asked.

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    Re: Right to Notify
    « Reply #4 on: November 18, 2008, 02:59:50 am »
    I have a Florida permit (till I get back to Texas and get one there; then I'll have both) and while Florida doesn't require you to inform, I always did, while I was living there. I never once got a ticket, only warnings. Even for some serious stuff (ok, not that serious, stuff like towing a trailer without plates, the rest were speeding). In Texas, you're required to inform, and I've been pulled over there twice, and only got warnings.
    I know a lot of folks around here and on other forums like to keep their secrets about carrying, and usually I do too. However, I know every time an LEO approaches a traffic stop, he's approaching what he considers a threat, and anything I can do to appear like less of a threat, I'll try to do. It usually helps me out. Like I said, I've never gotten a ticket.
    I usually start out each traffic stop (I've gotten pretty good at them by now) with "Good Afternoon, sir, before we get started, I just want to inform you I have a concealed weapon permit and I do/do not have a handgun in the vehicle. How would you like to proceed?" They usually ask where the gun is, and most ask me to slowly pull it out and hand it to them, and they hold on to it for the duration of the stop. I then say "Its loaded, with one in the chamber. May I unload it?" They usually decline my offer and take it loaded, but I always tell them the condition of the piece.
    Mainly, my objectives during an armed stop is to A) keep my ass out of hot water, B) keep the situation safe for everyone. After I do all that to deal with the gun, they're usually pretty cool with me and don't give me tickets. Just warnings.
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