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Re: Grid down. No sun. Got wood. Steam engine anyone?
« Reply #50 on: January 02, 2012, 02:12:35 pm »
North Dakota, not always a refrigerator.
Gets to over 98 Degrees or hotter in Summer.
Spent over 8 1/2 years pushing planes into the air at Minot AFB.
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If any of you want a great experience please visit Medora, ND and see the Musical there.
You won't be disappointed.
Buffalo as big as your car, wild mustangs, lots of Prairie Dawgs.
In the Springtime the Prairie Chickens (Hungarian Partridge) do the wildest dances you've ever seen.
Lots of land, lots of wild game, room to grow.


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    Re: Grid down. No sun. Got wood. Steam engine anyone?
    « Reply #51 on: January 02, 2012, 04:23:37 pm »
    For saving your frozen ground beef you asked about, precook and can. You can do some up ground and some in patties as long as they will fit in the wide mouth jars.

    That just reminded me that someone barrowed my canning book this summer. I need to get that back just in case.

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    « Reply #52 on: January 02, 2012, 05:04:59 pm »
    This was my thought.  I know the basic principles to a wood gassifier. (Basically, you have to get wood to better than 450 degrees, without burning it, in a sealed vessel.  Kind of the same direction as a double boiler, for those who're handy in the kitchen.)  It would take some experimenting, but it works.

    Sounds like it would leave you with charcoal after all the combustible volatiles have cooked out of the wood.
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    « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2012, 06:33:30 pm »
    Sounds like it would leave you with charcoal after all the combustible volatiles have cooked out of the wood.

    Yup.  2 points for outstanding knowledge of chemistry.
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    Re: Grid down. No sun. Got wood. Steam engine anyone?
    « Reply #54 on: January 02, 2012, 10:06:13 pm »
    Actually, they cook it at around 1000 degrees at high pressure for about an hour. Creates a ton on Natural gas, or pure diesel, or various gases and liquid petroleum, depending on which recipe. All made out of garbage, grass/tree clippings, paper pulp. etc.

    Governor in Montana is really into making this work cause they could make $1 per gallon diesel.
    But many environmentalists don't like all the co2 it makes.
    But when you capture that co2 and use it to get more oil, etc...it makes sense.

    Indiana'The average response time of a 911 call is over 23 minutes, the average response time of a .44 magnum is 1400 feet per second.'

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    « Reply #55 on: January 02, 2012, 11:40:00 pm »
    But many environmentalists don't like all the co2 it makes.
    If we exhale it, and plants consume it, is it a pollutant? Maybe the need for self preservation and the ongoing unraveling of the man-made global warming hoax will eventually put these quacks in their place.
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    « Reply #56 on: January 06, 2012, 09:45:54 pm »
    A woodstove is good. Look for big leaf maple or madrona or locust in WW. Or old orchard wood- apple is very high BTU.
     As far as grid down, just look to what other grid down places do-like north korea.  They are apparently running everything on wood gasification, even non combat military vehicles. It is also a reason they are deforesting very quickly. We lose power here a couple of three times every winter, ranging from a hour or so to a week plus.
     If you store  gasoline, try to find non alcohol gas, fill the containers up, and store in a cool ventilated place.
     A inverter genset will allow a much longer run-time, as they do not have to run 3600 rpm all the time. $$$ though.

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