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Everything but the kitchen sink!
« on: November 18, 2008, 11:08:30 am »
I don't know about y'all, but my purse contains just about everything except the kitchen sink.  It's a longstanding joke in our family when my husband hands me stuff...his keys, his sunglasses, etc....and says "can you put this in your purse, dear?"  (Especially when the stuff he hands me is  more squre inches than the purse itself, lol!!!!) 

There are times when, like lots of women who carry concealed, I have to use that purse for the gun as well.  I have a "concealed carry purse" that I'm using these days, but I've found some awfully useful "concealed carry" purses...at Target  ;D  Ones with stiff sides, and a center section that has a zipper over it.  The downside is that I've never had a purse from a discount store last, and my "real" concealed carry purse is now three years old and shows no wear.  Guess you do get what you pay for  :neener

BUT....!  That CC purse is soft sided.  The CC part is an area between the two halves of the purse that is accessed through a velcro closure on the side.  I can pull from it reasonably quickly (but no one will ever nickname me Quick Draw McGraw, not even if I open carried!)  But those soft sides are a problem.

Well, no.  The pens, the pencils, the glasses, the wallet, the other hundred bits and bobs in there are the problem; really more like two problems.  One is that the sheer MASS of junk in there slows down my ability to get my hand inside the CC pouch and withdraw the gun.  There's a wallet pushing from one side, my asthma inhaler and stuff from the other, and the  gun literally "caught in the middle".  So it slows me down.  Second, though, is far more serious.  The CC pouch really is not intended to be used with a holster; there's no velcro to stick the holster to, as there is in my Jagwear belt pouch holster setup, so the gun just sits there.  It stays in the position I put it, that's no worry.  But there is no substantive protection over the trigger guard.

This is not a good thing.

I've read a lot over the years on the pros and cons of purse carry.  Certainly there are times that for many of us it's that or nothing.  But if we're going to carry in a purse, we need to think through those issues that we might never think about and ensure that we and those around us are safe as we do.

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    Re: Everything but the kitchen sink!
    « Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 03:48:14 pm »
    Jan, is it possible to line the center cc section with a stiff leather pocket?

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    « Reply #2 on: November 18, 2008, 04:05:51 pm »
    Jan, is it possible to line the center cc section with a stiff leather pocket?

    That's an interesting question.  I would imagine somebody who works with leather might be able to jury-rig something, although when the purse would sit on a flat surface the center part might kind of stick up oddly, lol. 

    The "cc" purse I got at Target was a stiff-sided purse in itself, and additionally, in the middle zippered part, there was a divider, only about a third as high as the purse itself, which was itself stiffened with cardboard or some such.  The upshot is that I could take a compact gun in its holster, fasten the holster to that middle divider via the belt clip, and voila, I had a holstered firearm in the purse.  Pretty cool, really.

    I probably should add the disclaimers that (1) purse carry is really not the primary or best way to carry....for one thing, the purse gets snatched and then where are you, and for another, they are really just a bit slower than some other forms of carry for retrieval; and (2) because of #1, I almost always carry on body.  But there are those outfits which just don't support a holster very well...so purse carry is at best a backup option.

    But when ya gotta, ya gotta.  Just be aware of the purse YOU have and make sure that it's not so overloaded that you can't reach in and get the firearm, and also that there is a cover over the trigger guard (holster or built in somehow).

    Jan
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    Re: Everything but the kitchen sink!
    « Reply #3 on: November 18, 2008, 07:15:14 pm »
    I'm a guy and don't carry a purse, so, Jan, feel free to nix the "guy post."

    When I work out, usually bike riding, I wear a Camelbak and carry my wallet, keys, cell phone, and of course my gun in one of the cargo pockets. (yeah, guys have clothes that prohibit "on body" carry, too) I found one pocket seems like it was specifically designed for my Sig P6, and a smaller narrow pocket next to it that seems to be a proper magazine carrier. When carrying like that, even with all my junk floating around it, there's at least one strong layer of nylon between the trigger and the junk. I don't worry too much about my keys poking through and pulling the trigger. Especially with a DA pistol, I don't see any way my junk could generate the (IIRC) 13lb DA trigger pull on my P6.

    Here are pics of the gun, magazine, and Camelbak.

    And the gun and magazine "holstered."


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    Re: Everything but the kitchen sink!
    « Reply #4 on: November 22, 2008, 01:05:02 am »
    Everything but the kitchen sink and my gun (which is on my right hip) ;)

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    Re: Everything but the kitchen sink!
    « Reply #5 on: November 22, 2008, 09:24:21 pm »
    Jan -

    Can you glue a strip of velcro to the inside of the cc compartment of the purse?  Then you could use one of those "one size fits many" holsters that have velcro on the back side to allow the strap with a snap for the front to be exactly fit to the particular gun by adjusting where on the holster the strap is stuck.

    Hope that explanation makes sense.  I know what I'm trying to say, but words are not always my forte.
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    Re: Everything but the kitchen sink!
    « Reply #6 on: November 24, 2008, 12:37:08 pm »
    My CCL is still in process, and I don't plan to purse carry often, but I think I need to have at least one purse I can use on occasion. I found a flea market purse I'd like because it has a nice long strap for across body wear. The problem is that it's a soft suede purse with no separate compartments, pockets, or anything like that inside. I'm trying to figure out if I could somehow line it to have a holster installed. The other concern is that it's so soft I'm afraid it would print easily if not lined with something substantial.

    On another site I found a link to some purses that looked like they had a lot of potential for purse carry. The brand is Pacsafe and they are an antitheft travel gear supplier. The straps and fronts of the purses have steel mesh inside to make them slash proof. They were a bit more expensive than my usual Wal-Mart or other cheapie purse (I'm not a purse person, a purse is just something to carry my junk in) but nowhere near the "designer" purse prices. If anyone has tried any of those purses I'd be interested to hear what you thought. I think they make backpacks and such too, so any input on any of their products would be welcome.

    http://www.pacsafe.com/www/index.php


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    Re: Everything but the kitchen sink!
    « Reply #7 on: November 24, 2008, 02:27:51 pm »
    Interesting.  I'd have never thought of mesh to make it slash proof.  I suppose you might be able to install something like that on your flea market find and then line it with cloth.  And as cpaspr said, attach some velcro to it, velcro to a holster, and you have a sturdier carry purse.

    OTOH, you might be limited to "mouse guns" because of those soft sides.

    I'll check out the Pacsafe line.  Sounds promising.

    Jan
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    Re: Everything but the kitchen sink!
    « Reply #8 on: November 24, 2008, 08:50:34 pm »
    I'm thinking that the SlingSafe 200 might be just the thing and I'm not even sure it would need a holster. That rear pocket might work very well for something the size of a Glock 26. At that price, I consider those purses pretty affordable, compared to the ones I've seen designed for concealed carry, and especially compared to designer purses.

    (A while back I was shopping in Dillard's with a friend and saw a purse I liked; a pretty golden color with an alligator pattern. "Oh, look at this, this is really pretty- aaaaaccckkk! OMG! Not in this lifetime!!")

    I'm just not a purse person. I usually have a black one and a beige one and if they are big enough to hold my junk I'm good to go. 

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    Re: Everything but the kitchen sink!
    « Reply #9 on: November 25, 2008, 09:37:15 am »
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    I'm just not a purse person. I usually have a black one and a beige one and if they are big enough to hold my junk I'm good to go. 

    LOL!  Me too.  It's just that we have specialized "junk" that they have to be able to carry at a pinch.  Heck, everything I'm wearing at the moment apart from my sneakers came from Target.  If you go find my pic in the Pictures thread on General, just put on "Redneck Woman" before you go there and you'll get the general gist of things  ;D

    Jan
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    -----Fionna Glenanne, Burn Notice


    I agree with the Court that the Second Amendment is fully applicable to the States.  I do so because the right to keep and bear a

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