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Re: Pardner Single Shot
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2013, 03:48:31 pm »
Why?

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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #26 on: August 28, 2013, 09:27:27 pm »
    Asked and Answered:

    Why not?
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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #27 on: August 28, 2013, 09:46:10 pm »
    I should have quoted... I mean why a flinch after 20 rounds shooting clays

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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #28 on: August 28, 2013, 11:24:20 pm »
    Ahh...

    I haven't shot 20 rounds out of a non-semi-auto shotty in a few years. I don't flinch out of those much anymore.
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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #29 on: August 29, 2013, 08:22:17 pm »
    I should have quoted... I mean why a flinch after 20 rounds shooting clays

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    I shot a round of trap once with it and had a bad primer after 20 rounds or so.  No bull, I think I flinched the muzzle a good 12" down expecting the recoil :-[.  The gun only weighs 5.5 lbs and recoil is pretty brisk.  I didn't have a recoil pad at the time, but I have since remedied that.  It still is one of my favorite guns. 
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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #30 on: September 11, 2013, 10:24:55 pm »
    Most of the recoil problems that adult shooters have with the NEF single barrel shotguns has to do with excessive comb height for use with a bead sight.  Since these have inexpensive wood stocks, some quality time with sandpaper will quickly solve the problem. Just be sure to slope the comb forward.
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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #31 on: September 12, 2013, 12:55:11 pm »
    I once saw my wife pick up the 20 ga Parnder, drop in a regular 1oz.  #7 1/2 shotshell and drop a passing mourning dove at about 35 yards.  It was the first time she ever fired the gun.  That was a great confidence builder for her.  They ain't bad little barn guns or to teach basics to beginners, especially in 20 ga. or with lighter load for the 12.
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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #32 on: October 04, 2013, 11:15:58 am »
    That's an interesting point. I only have 12ga scatter guns. No need to stock any other kind of ammo. The girlfriend has a 20ga 870, but I don't see her shooting a single-shot. I can't think of anything else in .410 (no, I'm not buying a Judge) but because of the recent popularity of the Judge, .410 seems fairly common.

    Gotta decide which gauge I want.

    The 28ga is a good fit for the Pardner.  It is a great small game foraging combination and fun for informal clays shooting.

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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #33 on: October 04, 2013, 03:42:55 pm »
    28 is the smallest gauge legal for trap competition btw

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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #34 on: October 05, 2013, 11:57:52 am »
    I like single shot shotguns.
    In fact the only shotgun I currently have is a Youth, H&R/NEF , 20 ga.

    I was raised with a .22 single shot rifle and/or Youth single shot shotgun behind the door. Most times a .410, or 20 ga, though I am right partial to 28 ga. In fact back in the day, Mentors made round ball slugs for the 28 ga. Pretty much a .54 caliber, and history shares what this caliber has done.

    Why the Youth size?
    Coming up, anyone from a kid to adult could it. The old saw about: A bigger person can use a smaller gun, still a littler person cannot always use a bigger gun.

    Yes, a 20 ga can be a bit "thumpy", then again it does tote easy, especially inside a structure. If memory serves, mine is only 36 inches total length. Bone stock with factory recoil pad, and fixed full choke.

    28 ga is NOT legal here, or most places, for deer with slugs. Granted finding slugs is hard, and the only way one can have slugs,  petty much, is to reload their own. Legal here, as most places is the .410 with slugs...go figure.

    So if the gun is going to used with slugs, I suggest the 20 ga, if not, go with the 28 ga.



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    « Reply #35 on: October 05, 2013, 09:09:17 pm »
    I received an H&R Topper .410 as a Christmas gift in the 7th grade. I have taken squirrels, rabbits and quail with that little gun and have made some incredible shots on clay targets too. After nearly 30 years it still looks good and shoots as good as ever. Now I have them in .410, 20ga, 12ga and 10 gauge too.

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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #36 on: October 06, 2013, 01:33:24 am »
    10 gauge ?   OOf.   :shocked    I imagine that one will nudge you .   .   .
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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #37 on: October 06, 2013, 02:05:20 am »
    Nudge ain't the word...

    I think more like <expletives> as "Ouch" don't ....do justice to the "thump".


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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #38 on: October 06, 2013, 08:32:21 am »
     Dad just bought a 10 gauge single shot at the last show....

    it's awesome :cool   Doesn't kick that bad, his BPS 10 gauge hurts worse.  I mean it ain't no light field load but.....maybe the awesomeness outweighs the kick.  :rotfl
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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #39 on: October 06, 2013, 07:55:53 pm »

    28 ga is NOT legal here, or most places, for deer with slugs. Granted finding slugs is hard, and the only way one can have slugs,  petty much, is to reload their own. Legal here, as most places is the .410 with slugs...go figure.


    Legal for deer in TX & AR, plus the 28ga Brenneke load is the full equal of the standard 20ga slug.  They are a bit pricey, but how many 28ga slugs does one really need?

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    « Reply #40 on: October 06, 2013, 11:59:47 pm »
    first round I ever shot was a magnum 3 1/2 inch 00 buck out of my dads Pardner 12. yeah, I know its only a 3 inch chamber. but we had 3.5's and determination...
    and no recoil pad.
    I was 10, my shoulder hurts thinking about it.
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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #41 on: October 08, 2013, 12:12:22 pm »
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    Legal for deer in TX & AR, plus the 28ga Brenneke load is the full equal of the standard 20ga slug.  They are a bit pricey, but how many 28ga slugs does one really need?

    Conservation Officer and I discussed the 28 ga, being legal for deer here. Including using the Brenneke load, and even reloads. (slugs).

    His son was taking the Hunting Education/ Beginning Shooter Course that I attended with a shootin' buddy with his eldest daughter. Yeah I took the course as well, took the test and got my "orange card" as well. [Even though I have some of these from other states.]

    He shared a LOT of useful information, and shared a lot of "free goodies" for the kids. (Even   with us "bigger kids")

    [FWIW "bigger kids" can be ...well...all I will share is some of the mom's, dad's, grandpa's, grandma's, uncles and the one "adopted uncle" (me), can be "worse" than kids when it comes to free goodies".

    He invited me a meeting where I tried to sell the .28 ga with slugs. The greatest percentage of Conservation Officers in attendance were NOT familar with the .28 ga. I "run the gamut" from less recoil for not only Youth, also those parents and grandparents with "health concerns" from arthritis to you name it".

    I have not seen this CO since I moved further north in state.  still I at least "sold him, his wife and son" on the 28 ga.
    Basically <joke is> "I am going to get busted for anything, even fishing on my private pond without a fishing license". ( which I do not need to do so).

    It seems there is a Rem 1100 and Rem 870 in his gun safe now.
    I "might have been" at a gun show by myself, ran into CO, his wife and son and...well...of course it is my fault these guns followed them home. 

    Oh and "might" been the one responsible for a H&R/NEF Youth single shot combo, with 28 ga and .22 lr, that also joined the other two shotguns in said safe...

    [What was learned at the said Hunter ED/Beginning Shooter course, and this showed itself with my gun buddy's daughter, is, eye dominance changed.  So the single shot/ break bbl allowed not only kids, also adults to shoot, and shoot well. So the "rationalization is" the son has a gun that will assist kids and adults whom also have "eye dominance change".]


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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #42 on: October 13, 2013, 08:08:44 pm »
    do NOT buy one of these

    You can get alternate barrels.  If you start with a shotgun you can ONLY ever get shotgun barrels.  If you start with a rifle, you can get rifle or shotgun barrels.  Do not limit yourself right out the gate.

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    « Reply #43 on: May 28, 2014, 02:10:00 am »
    10 gauge ?   OOf.   :shocked    I imagine that one will nudge you .   .   .
    With some 3 1/2 inch #4 turkey loads it does have a distinctive thump but not as bad as a 3.5 12 gauge shell. The design of the HR contributes to some of the felt recoil. I'd like to have some of the old 2 7/8 inch 10 gauge shells, the old timers say they were sweet to shoot and hell on game.

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    « Reply #44 on: May 29, 2014, 02:19:42 pm »
    do NOT buy one of these

    You can get alternate barrels.  If you start with a shotgun you can ONLY ever get shotgun barrels.  If you start with a rifle, you can get rifle or shotgun barrels.  Do not limit yourself right out the gate.

    I ended up not buying it anyway, but if I want a rifle, I'll buy a rifle. I don't have a limit to how many guns I can own (yet).
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    « Reply #45 on: May 29, 2014, 03:56:46 pm »
    With some 3 1/2 inch #4 turkey loads it does have a distinctive thump but not as bad as a 3.5 12 gauge shell. The design of the HR contributes to some of the felt recoil. I'd like to have some of the old 2 7/8 inch 10 gauge shells, the old timers say they were sweet to shoot and hell on game.
    Yup.  And I still prefer my 16 gauge to the twenty but ammo is a bit harder to find.
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    Re: Pardner Single Shot
    « Reply #46 on: June 05, 2014, 06:27:02 pm »
    Loaded some of these #7.5 shot loads on a modified Lyman Easy Loader press (1970's vintage) for dove season with the 32" full  and for youth/teen programs with a "factory custom" 28" Cylinder bore / youth stock combination.

    3 Drams, (82grains), GOEX FFFg Blackpowder, once fired Federal Paper hull, fold crimp, 1 1/8 Oz Shot, Winchester 209 Primer, .135" nitro card, two ¼” felt filler wads and a paper sleeve inserted before the shot:   PSI 6,600 and 1165 FPS.

    30 minutes inside a toaster oven @ 125 F redistributes the wax and pulls any residual moisture out of the once fired paper hulls.

    A MEC Super Sizer resizes the brass base of the once fired hulls and it also tightens the primer seat preventing any gas leaks around the primer.

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