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"American Made" Benelli M4
« on: January 23, 2012, 09:57:28 pm »
I must admit I have long had a lust for a true Benelli.  A friend had an M2 that just rocked my world.  So the idea of an M4 would be just insane.  That said I'm not sure how this would compare (especially for the coin) to a Mossberg 930 SPX. 

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/01/24/benellis-new-civilian-legal-m4/

hmmm.  That would be a great features test.  Head to head the Benelli vs the Mossberg. 
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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 10:06:09 pm »
    Looks sweet! Unfortunately, I came across a YouTube video of the gun from SHOT 2012, and the Benelli rep said it'd be "coming in at under $2,400." IIRC, that'll buy you 3 Mossy 930s.
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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 10:14:31 pm »
    I have an M2, and I love it.  The quality is outstanding.  IMO, the gun is easily worth the price.

    That said, while I like this idea, (though not the price, at double the cost of an M2) $100 says that the ATF prevents civilian sale of the sliding stock.  Hate to be this way, but they will.  :(


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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 10:17:19 pm »
    Article says it circumvents that by being "Made in America".
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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 10:18:48 pm »
    Hate the price, love the gun. And yes, the Mossberg is awesome. Ridiculous gun for the money. But it doesn't fill me with the same lust.

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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 10:41:14 pm »
    For my money, I'd rather have it with their ComforTech stock than the sliding stock.  I got to shoot ducks this weekend with a buddy's Vinci, and that thing makes 3" magnums feel about like low brass 2-3/4" out of my pump.  They offer the M2 with the comfortech.
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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 10:56:31 pm »
    For my money, I'd rather have it with their ComforTech stock than the sliding stock.  I got to shoot ducks this weekend with a buddy's Vinci, and that thing makes 3" magnums feel about like low brass 2-3/4" out of my pump.  They offer the M2 with the comfortech.

    I'd have no choice as we can't have folders or collapsibles in CT. But it's okay as that's the stock I'd want on it as well.
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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #7 on: January 23, 2012, 11:38:19 pm »
    For my money, I'd rather have it with their ComforTech stock than the sliding stock.  I got to shoot ducks this weekend with a buddy's Vinci, and that thing makes 3" magnums feel about like low brass 2-3/4" out of my pump.  They offer the M2 with the comfortech.
      i hear you.  I've got no love of a shotgun w a folding atock outside of packing it.
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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 12:45:12 am »
    Article says it circumvents that by being "Made in America".
    Be that as it may, the shotgun has a 12ga bore.  All shotguns with bores over .50 in. are subject to classification as 'Destructive Devices,' unless the ATF decides that they have a legitimate sporting purpose. 

    Stupid, yes, but those are the rules.  I do not see the ATF letting this one out the door.


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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 12:54:32 am »
    I was under the impression that only applied to imported Arms.  Not built here.  As such the ATFE could/would rule against the Rem 1100, Mossberg 930 etc.
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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 01:10:24 am »
    I don't know.  I thought the application of the NFA of '34 was universal to all firearms.  :shrug


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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 03:22:24 am »
    all shotguns could be ruled destructive devices. this one won't because no one cares if another shotgun has a collapsible stock. the markets already awash with 'em

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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 10:47:21 am »
    I don't know.  I thought the application of the NFA of '34 was universal to all firearms.  :shrug

    They get away with a stricter level of scrutiny over what constitutes "not particularly suited for sporting purposes" over imported semi-automatic firearms under 922(r) than they do with the NFA.
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    Re: "American Made" Benelli M4
    « Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 12:58:14 pm »

    That said, while I like this idea, (though not the price, at double the cost of an M2) $100 says that the ATF prevents civilian sale of the sliding stock.  Hate to be this way, but they will.  :(


    I'm inclined to agree with you on the stock. As it stands-IIRC-the sliding stock is illegal to install on current M4's because...

    They get away with a stricter level of scrutiny over what constitutes "not particularly suited for sporting purposes" over imported semi-automatic firearms under 922(r) than they do with the NFA.

    What Jesse here said. I forget exactly why, but I think it has something to do with the shotgun being made in Italy but that adjustable stock is US made and that FUBAR's some line in the 922(r) thing.

    As I ALSO recall, the "sporting purposes" line/clause killed the SPAS-12 and SPAS-15 and is also why we have to jimmy together tactical/"tacticool" Saiga-12's using Tapco parts and such. Then there was the whole spook about the banning of Saiga importation last year as the "detachable magazine rendered it a destructive device".

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