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laptop recomendations?
« on: November 16, 2014, 08:13:07 pm »
I have been running HP laptops as only computer for a while now and have been fairly happy with them.  My current one is only about two years old and the case has been breaking off small pieces since it was new.  Now the case is breaking around one hinge, so it is on borrowed time.

It goes back and forth with me to work every day, in a backpack on a 4 wheeler, so weight is an issue, but not a big deal.  I like the 17" screen, and the full key board with 10 key.  I would like to stick with that configuration, and add a back lite key board.   I need to stick with Win 7 for work issues.  For my own fun I want a Blue Ray player.  I want to keep cost down to around a grand.  I have found a Toshiba at Costco.com  http://www.costco.com/Toshiba-Satellite-S75-Laptop-|-Intel-Core-i7-|-Blu-Ray-Writer-|-Backlit-Keyboard-|-Windows-7-Professional.product.100131269.html  That fits my basic requirements, but I have found Toshiba to be pretty conservative on the parts they put in their boxes.  I want a faster HDD, but need to fit the budget, and this whole issue was unplanned and unbudgeted as my last HP lasted for almost 10 years.

Seems like I read somewhere here that building your own laptop is a pain, but that might be an option.  I think I will try building my own desk top some time down the road when we have space for one in the house.

Basically I am looking for recommendations on brands, sellers, ect.  I will have to buy this online sight unseen, and keyboard feel is also important.  Thanks for any help.
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    Re: laptop recomendations?
    « Reply #1 on: November 16, 2014, 08:30:14 pm »
    You want the Core i7 processor.  That's just a given.   
    Samsungs and Macbooks are where I'm at now.  Solid tech.  The last HP I had started out fine, but let me down.
    I don't think they are as good as they used to be.
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    « Reply #2 on: November 16, 2014, 09:04:59 pm »
    You want the Core i7 processor.  That's just a given.   
    Samsungs and Macbooks are where I'm at now.  Solid tech.  The last HP I had started out fine, but let me down.
    I don't think they are as good as they used to be.


    I will look for Samsungs, I have had great luck with their phones.  Never thought of them.  I am very anti-apple, also last one I used was a IIe, so very underwhelming even at the time.

    I might go for the Core i5, in the right package.  I don't run tons of stuff at once, and don't game.  It would take a great package, sshd, tons of ram, all the rest of my wish list, and a great price on top of all that...  I have a i7 now and it has been good, but I have barely learned this OS and computer and now looking for new :banghead
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    « Reply #3 on: November 16, 2014, 09:36:02 pm »
    I'll second the Core i7, and give an additional reason why: you're not just buying for now. If you're sticking with a commercial OS, it will bloat (so will Linux, for that matter, just to a lesser degree). 

    Also, take a look at Lenovo's...

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    « Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 11:48:52 am »
    The i7 is the way to go. I was looking for a family member not long ago, and Lenovos seemed to have some decent deals. Sub $700 with an actual HD screen (1080p). Pet peeve of mine is calling a 720p Screen HD. On closer inspection it seems that Lenovo doesn't include optical drives in the laptops that are on sale.

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    « Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 12:04:36 pm »
    The Lenovos, thanks for the recommendation, look really nice.  They seem to have put some actual thought into how to make a user friendly key board.  The ones I have found don't meet my needs or budget.  No optical drive, and only SSHDs, these features work in the real world, but that is not where I live and work.  We, the City of Pilot Point, got in trouble for doing 5 gigs of downloads in one day.  Never mind that we were without internet for almost two months prior, and have an unlimited plan on our internet. 

    I like the looks of the Lenovo and the Samsung, but it looks like neither makes a 17" screen.  As this is my only computer, for both work and home I really like the bigger screen.  It is also my primary movie/entertainment machine.  I think we might be one of a very few with only one TV in the house and no programing. 
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    « Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 03:38:11 pm »
    This doesn't help when you're away from home, but if the laptop you get has a separate video port you can plug in an external monitor.  Makes viewing those movies much easier on the eyes.

    I plugged a 17" into our 15" HP machine and it made what I was doing much easier.  Two separate screens are so much better than only one (I'm spoiled-I have 4 at work).  Our Dell laptop doesn't have a separate vid port, so it's not an option on that machine.
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    « Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 09:13:25 pm »
    Why does everyone think you need an i7?

    Most users don't.
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    « Reply #8 on: November 17, 2014, 10:14:06 pm »
    Why does everyone think you need an i7?

    Most users don't.
    When I was selling computers a long time ago... We had the PC Options of 286, 386, and 486 PC's.  I was told "Most users don't need a 486, sell them the 386."
    My response was  :facepalm
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    « Reply #9 on: November 17, 2014, 10:44:00 pm »
    Why does everyone think you need an i7?

    Most users don't.

    I have an i7 now and I know I don't use the full potential.  That said I generally keep my computers for a long time, 6-10 years.  So I do try to buy the fastest processor, and the most ram I can afford.  My wife got an i5 in her current lap top and it is just fine for what she does with it.  She is on her 4th or 5th in the last 10 years, but of course her last one, is fine neither of us like it so it sits.

    I am finding it hard to find i5 with Win 7 professional, a blue ray player and a 17" screen.  Unless I go with a full on gaming lap top, which blows the budget, the Toshiba I linked to seems to be the best option so far.

    I don't have access to bigger screen.  I might be able to get one for my desk at work, but they are cheap and claiming to be broke.  My computer at home is on my lap or tucked in the end table.  If I had a place to set up a bigger screen, I would get/build a cheap desktop better
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    « Reply #10 on: November 17, 2014, 10:46:06 pm »
    When I was selling computers a long time ago... We had the PC Options of 286, 386, and 486 PC's.  I was told "Most users don't need a 486, sell them the 386."
    My response was  :facepalm

    I think my 386 was my favorite lap top.  My dad gave it to me when I went off to college.
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    « Reply #11 on: November 18, 2014, 09:53:20 am »
    It's the Tim Taylor Tool Time theory.  More Power.  More Power is always better. .

    the same way people that have no clue think they need XXX in a pistol or rifle, or that Hemi motor in their street mobile that never sees open road . . . .




    Why does everyone think you need an i7?

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    « Reply #12 on: November 19, 2014, 09:58:23 am »
    Now Now... Part of the reason I recommend the i7 in a laptop specifically is that the laptop chips are... "special" compared to their desktop brethren. Most of the i5s and i7s you meet in a laptop are only dual core (with hyperthreading but still). Our work laptops are all i7s and with only 2 GB of ram they feel slow. Then I got the sysadmin's old machine when he upgraded. Looks identical to mine, but this one has its big boy pants on... The differences are so vast... that I can hardly use it for work. I'm "testing" windows 10 on it right now. Mostly examining how well all my games play on it.  :neener

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    « Reply #13 on: November 19, 2014, 11:15:04 am »
    Yeah, with Win 8 & higher, I'd start with 4gb of RAM, and call 8gb comfortable. I'm currently running CentOS on my wife's old i7, with 8gb, and running KVM virtual machines on it (wedging in a 1TB drive helps ;-) ).

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    « Reply #14 on: November 19, 2014, 12:28:36 pm »
    Why does everyone think you need an i7?

    Most users don't.
    I agree.

    I've got a 6 year old computer that I've simply juiced up over the years as my desktop.

    But my laptop is an HP Elitebook 2520p running Linux Mint.

    The processor is pretty good, a 2.4 ghz duo with 3 gigs of ram to play around with.  Not like the 16 gigs in my home desktop, but s___, what am I gonna use any more than 3 for?

    My laptop is for programming, writing, internet, school work, and setting up virtual connections with the campus engineering network (I let their servers do all the heavy lifting for me).


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    « Reply #15 on: November 19, 2014, 04:46:53 pm »
    Another question, what wireless specs should I be looking for?  I might be having intermittent wireless issues.  Not sure if it is my computer or the sattilite internet at home and work.
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    « Reply #16 on: November 19, 2014, 06:27:03 pm »
    802.11n is pretty much the de facto standard, and is backwards compatible with b & g...

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    « Reply #17 on: November 19, 2014, 09:43:16 pm »
    Thanks, booksmart.

    The laptop I am looking at has an Intel 3160 which meets that standard and has bluetooth 4.0 integrated.
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    « Reply #18 on: November 28, 2014, 02:25:14 am »
    Well I just shot the discretionary/computer area of the budget on a AR build.  Time to get out the JB Plastic Weld and limp along for a while longer. 

    I was not real happy with most of the choices available.  To get everything I wanted was in the $2200 range.  Way too much right now.  The almost everything option is around a grand, but is not much of an upgrade to what I currently have.  The case break does not seem to be getting worse if I am careful...  If worse comes to worse I will buy a cheapo for work and travel.  And then try to get work to buy it off of me when I move.
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    « Reply #19 on: December 10, 2014, 01:56:20 am »
    Using the back up computer tonight, left the cracked case at home.  This is a Sony Viao my wife got a year or so ago.  Not sure if it is just our internet or what but this I 5 seems really slow.  I need to go back and double check all the specs on this machine, it is decent.  I also need to clean all her crap off it.  I hate all the tool bars and extra programs I never use on this machine.  She is the techie in our relationship, I fix things with a three lb hammer when I am feeling gentle.  The main reason that she quit using this machine is that it gets really hot, it lives on a cooling thingamajig and still it is amazingly hot.  That said it is a 4 lb 16" laptop.  I am really liking the keyboard feel and the touch pad has not screwed me up once tonight.
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    « Reply #20 on: December 10, 2014, 04:50:12 pm »
    If she might end up using it again, consider just setting up another user, with full admin privileges.  Then set that one up the way you want it.  I did that with our older laptop.  My login keeps me happy, her login keeps her happy.
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    « Reply #21 on: December 10, 2014, 08:46:24 pm »
    Might do that, but she has a newish Toshiba, that she loves with the exception of Win 8.  She was planning on sending the Sony to her mom and step-dad.  They will get the $300 laptop if we decide to send them a computer.  All they do is pictures and email for dogsledding business.
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