I completely agree. .308,like Preparation H,is better on the whole. *Bonus points for Austin Powers reference* Can't argue with facts,can I?

I can't find the link I referred to. I know I linked to it from THR though. I really want to find that now. It may have been on AmmoOracle,which I can't get to open.

Lots of love here for the .308.  Just remember that .308 completely defines "Average" in terms of ballistics.  There are a few reasons it's popular... it is remarkably efficient, it's accurate, and thanks to the plethora of arms out there for it there is a massive legacy of hardware and components and that helps keep the costs of it down.  And that's great.  But it only scores a "C" grade. 
It was said that you can use it on big game... yeah... you CAN... but that doesn't mean you should.  Big Game is a broad catagory and there are a lot of critters out there that .308 is probably the minimum you should go after them with.  While there is nothing wrong with it, I just don't consider the .308 to be a big game cartrige.   I'm quite fond of my .308 rifle, but if I'm going after something bigger than an Antelope and I want to hit it out to 400 yards or past - i'm not grabbing it.
For serious killing, I always reach for my 7mm Rem Mag.

Actually, I'd sort of call it unethical to a degree.

Feh... only if you are not confident in your ability.  You have to know your limit and you have to know your cartridge.
You should come out here and talk about hunting the book cliffs and spout off about 400 being unethical.   You might end up on a milk carton.    We often hunt long range out here, because that's what's required. 
Now, I'm all for ethical hunting.  Absolutely.  But throwing out arbitrary range limitations based on a narrow perspective is...  I can't find a word for it other than ignorant.





Welcome to hunting in The West.

I normally consider the Weatherby Vanguard the most underrated hunting rifle on the market. 

$399 Gets you a very solid gun in those Vanguards.  Best Bang for your Buck on the market.  Wide caliber options, great accuracy... hard to beat it.   It really is.   In .257 Weatherby Magnum... it's an amazingly capable rifle.  Top that with a Nikon Monarch and you have a fantastic weapon.
I say that even though I am not really fond of the rifle... but you gotta respect it.

Considering that numerous people have been able to take any North American game with bows, I don't consider a 1100 yard shot to be ethical.

While that is mighty fine shooting and commendable, the chance of wounding the animal by miscalculation is to great.  Along with having almost zero chance of a follow up shot to put the animal out if need be.

To me, it isn't just the taking of animal's life that is part of the thrill of hunting.  It's the work involved.  The stalking, the preparation of getting your camo, decoys, calls, blind set up to either lure the animal in close or to sneak within it's sensory range is what makes the drama of a hunt so great.

Having taken a white-tail at 15 yards using a .45 caliber air-rifle(800fps!) with a headshot, I can attest to giving the animal a decent shot at escape.

Shooting critters out past a couple hundred yards, to me, isn't sporting.

You -can- get closer.