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Stolen rifle. Suggestions?
« on: October 02, 2018, 09:41:19 am »
Hi folks...  My BIL's '53 Winchester 1894 was stolen by a family member.  Unfortunately, we have not found any record of the serial number yet, so the odds of it being returned by the police are slim (we can't even file it as stolen with the police without the serial).  So, anybody in the Pensacola area, I would greatly appreciate an eye being kept out...

Towards the end of getting it back, what other online sites, besides gunbroker, should I keep an eye on, if the AIQ (A____e In Question) pawned it 'legally'?

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    « Reply #1 on: October 02, 2018, 10:46:19 am »
    Hi folks...  My BIL's '53 Winchester 1894 was stolen by a family member.  Unfortunately, we have not found any record of the serial number yet, so the odds of it being returned by the police are slim (we can't even file it as stolen with the police without the serial).  So, anybody in the Pensacola area, I would greatly appreciate an eye being kept out...

    Towards the end of getting it back, what other online sites, besides gunbroker, should I keep an eye on, if the AIQ (A____e In Question) pawned it 'legally'?

    I don't know of any sites for pawn shops, other than individual store sites.  I would be tempted to call all the pawn shops, gun shops and give a general description saying it had family or personal value, but inherited by another family member who would not sell to you.  And ask them to call you if they bought it.  It might take a bunch of time, and someone in the state where it is ultimately located, but that is the best way I know of. 
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    « Reply #2 on: October 02, 2018, 10:59:03 am »
    There is also armslist.  There may be local websites as well.  I know in my state there are two online websites for gun classifieds.
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    « Reply #3 on: October 02, 2018, 12:12:07 pm »
    Other then calling LGS's I'm not sure what else you can do. When our house got robbed, that's how we did it. One of our guns was found out of state. Most of the guns weren't found.

    Can you contact the family member? Send the cops to the source?
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    « Reply #4 on: October 02, 2018, 02:39:45 pm »
    Can you contact the family member? Send the cops to the source?

    That part has been initiated... I'm resisting the temptation to reach out on Facebook and tell him we won't press charges if he gets the rifle back to us.

    On the other hand, I'm tempted to wait until he's been arrested, and visit him in jail and tell him "I won't tell that really big guy over there you snitched on him, if you tell us what you did with the rifle..."

    He didn't steal much, but he knew the value of what he took - a few hundred dollars in loose change, a vintage rod & reel, two sets of tools, the rifle... left the PlayStation, etc.

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    « Reply #5 on: October 02, 2018, 03:06:27 pm »
    Well, that sucks .  .  .   >:( .   www.gunsinternational.com is another site that is frequented by all sorts of sellers.  Its a bit of a pain as the seller apparently gets to choose the category(s) the rifle is listed in and how it is described so you can't just go to "Winchester Rifles" and locate it without further trouble.  I hope you find it.  I also hope you get to have the conversation of your choice with the miscreant that took it.  In any event, let us know if you get any more info on the rifle ( caliber, aftermarket sights, saddle ring, sling, whatever . . . )and  we'll help out as best we can.  I'll take a look over at gunsinternational later today and flag anything for you that looks like a possibility. 
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    « Reply #6 on: October 02, 2018, 03:23:57 pm »
    It's a .32 Winchester Special, and was (as far as I can remember) all original - no aftermarket sights, no rubber recoil pad, no saddle ring, nothing...

    An uncle of mine did some restoration work on it a few years ago (cleaning some pitting... preservation work, nothing serious), but unfortunately did not take any photos or notes.  My BIL is kicking himself for not keeping a record of the serial number.

    Let that be a lesson to all of us.

    Weird thing is, we were there in July, and I had a strong urge to ask David if he'd mind if I took it home with me.

    Should have.  :facepalm

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    « Reply #7 on: October 02, 2018, 04:46:05 pm »
    Yup.  Those .32 Specials were nice rifles.  I'll let you know if I find anything that looks suspect.
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    « Reply #8 on: October 02, 2018, 05:46:12 pm »

    On the other hand, I'm tempted to wait until he's been arrested, and visit him in jail and tell him "I won't tell that really big guy over there you snitched on him, if you tell us what you did with the rifle..."

    It is to my understanding that snitches get killed on sight in prison :hide .
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    « Reply #9 on: October 02, 2018, 05:53:50 pm »
     Going to sound bad but....

    Maybe message him and say "s___ happens,  I want that rifle, here's $300".

    That or bluff about pressing charges.   

    If it leaves his hands it'll be gone forever.  ALL pawnshops have valued customers who get first crack at good finds (like that is).   If he gets to jail its over too.   It'll have already been out of his hands.

    Whatever you do, do ASAP, from the sounds of it, it'll leave his hands VERY soon.



     
     
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    « Reply #10 on: October 03, 2018, 01:50:33 am »

    That or bluff about pressing charges.   


    Oh, it wouldn't be bluffing... it'd definitely be either or...

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    « Reply #11 on: October 03, 2018, 09:22:07 am »
    Oh, it wouldn't be bluffing... it'd definitely be either or...
    Then... what is stopping you from doing it anyway?  Sounds like the individual in question deserves either jail time or rehab. (or both)
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    « Reply #12 on: October 03, 2018, 11:40:42 am »
    Nothing.  I suggested to my BIL that he and our cousin both call him and pressure him, and if there's anyone the AIQ respects, for them to pressure him as well.  His wife moved out last night, so hopefully he'll realize this is serious.

    Needing rehab is a distinct possibility, but we don't know for 100% sure if he's an addict (or just alcoholic - one of the serious questions is whether the rifle went to a pawnshop or a... friend).

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    « Reply #13 on: October 03, 2018, 06:34:28 pm »
    WOOHOO!!!

    I am happy to report that my wife's cousin is in possession of the rifle - the hardball approach worked (at least as far as getting the gun back... we're not sure about the rest of the stuff the AIQ took).  He apologized, and claimed he was looking to get into a rehab program.

    We'll see if it sticks.

    In the meantime, I suggested my BIL write down the serial number, take photos, and buy a good, solid gunsafe he can mount above floodstage (the house is on a canal, near Pensacola).

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    « Reply #14 on: October 03, 2018, 06:49:22 pm »
     :thumbup1  Score one for the good guys. 
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