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Title: Recall on Magnum Research semi-auto .17 HMR?
Post by: downshift on November 10, 2009, 05:54:53 pm
My dad is a real, true rifleman. Thats all I have to say! From his days as a force recon sniper in Vietnam, to his 1000+ yard shot just 2 years ago for his cow elk tag.
And, he loves his small caliber .17HMR for shooting the wings off flys at 125-150 yards. (or crows or prarie dogs, whatever)
However He informed me today hes sending it back, something about it blowing up in peoples faces (and getting a weatherby mark V instead...)

Anyone heard anything official? Nothing on the MR sight...
Google is my friend, but all I found was individual user reports of not useing remington ammo in it.
Title: Re: Recall on Magnum Research semi-auto .17 HMR?
Post by: AR lover on November 10, 2009, 06:27:45 pm
I remember hearing something about ALL .17 HMR semi autos being recalled, because the ammo manufacturers suddenly found out that all .17 HMR ammo is unsafe for semi autos... :facepalm

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Title: Re: Recall on Magnum Research semi-auto .17 HMR?
Post by: GeorgeHill on November 10, 2009, 08:31:53 pm
Yes, it's official.  There are recalls from Remington and Magnum Research.
Title: Re: Recall on Magnum Research semi-auto .17 HMR?
Post by: StevenTing on November 10, 2009, 09:02:06 pm
why would the rifle being a semi make any difference?  I wonder about semi rifles from volquorten or however you spell that name.
Title: Re: Recall on Magnum Research semi-auto .17 HMR?
Post by: GeorgeHill on November 10, 2009, 09:17:52 pm
why would the rifle being a semi make any difference?  I wonder about semi rifles from volquorten or however you spell that name.
What's happening with these things, is that the bolts are opening too early.  They are not using a locked breach design so the pressure is pushing the bolts open while it's still too high.  The result is that they are blowing the magazines out the bottoms of the guns.
Remington dropped their .17 Semi, Ruger, for this reason never released theirs, and Magnum Research has been a big Male Chicken about the whole thing.
MR is blaming the Ammo Makers for making it too hot.  This is simply a retarded defense... as the Gun Maker should make the guns capable of the cartridge for which they chamber it... which clearly they didn't.  Because regardless of the .17HMR ammo used, there has been KB's... so you can't say HORNADY or CCI or WINCHESTER or REMINGTON is to blame.  They've all done it... the one thing in common with all cases - the problems were in Semi Autos.  No Single Shot, Pump Action, or Bolt Action has had any such problems.   
Title: Re: Recall on Magnum Research semi-auto .17 HMR?
Post by: ksuguy on November 10, 2009, 09:38:03 pm
I saw a converted 10/22 blow up last month.   No damage to the shooter, but the magazine was blown in half.   
Title: Re: Recall on Magnum Research semi-auto .17 HMR?
Post by: AR lover on November 10, 2009, 09:41:43 pm
They gonna try some form of delayment system on these rifles, it just scrap them all?  :scrutiny
Title: Re: Recall on Magnum Research semi-auto .17 HMR?
Post by: percyshelley on November 10, 2009, 10:04:26 pm
There's a Russian semi-auto in .17 HMR that's supposed to use a slightly more complicated blowback system.  Be darned if I can find pictures of it right now.  It looks a lot like a Beretta CX4.
Title: Re: Recall on Magnum Research semi-auto .17 HMR?
Post by: JesseL on November 10, 2009, 10:23:22 pm
I'll bet a lot of these issues could be resolved by giving a smaller radius to the rear of the bolt where it contacts the hammer. That would give the bolt a little less leverage when it starts recocking the hammer, and might delay the opening of the action enough to avoid the problem.
Title: Re: Recall on Magnum Research semi-auto .17 HMR?
Post by: AR lover on November 10, 2009, 10:45:31 pm
I'll bet a lot of these issues could be resolved by giving a smaller radius to the rear of the bolt where it contacts the hammer. That would give the bolt a little less leverage when it starts recocking the hammer, and might delay the opening of the action enough to avoid the problem.
Probably hear complaints about excessive wear though...no?
Title: Re: Recall on Magnum Research semi-auto .17 HMR?
Post by: JesseL on November 10, 2009, 10:56:26 pm
Better to hear complaints about wear than about guns exploding.