Author Topic: Perfection? (Bolt Action Battle Rifle) (Read 8937 times)

Mumbles · « **on:** October 06, 2010, 04:09:54 am »

http://www.undergroundsw.com/page3.php

WeTheArmed.com

Colin · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2010, 06:17:53 am »

I like it! Its definitely good looking, an the name is very cool.

HideWithPride · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2010, 11:49:32 am »

Damn - I'm in love.

only1asterisk · « **Reply #3 on:** October 06, 2010, 12:17:56 pm »

I'd be lying if i said it wasn't interesting, but juding by their other offerings I'd guess a nearly $4k price tag.

I'll pass.

Rigger · « **Reply #4 on:** October 06, 2010, 01:31:52 pm »

If it ain't a Mosin (or T53), it ain't sh#t.

JesseL · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2010, 01:55:20 pm »

I'm kinda wondering why it needs such a heavy barrel (and consequently weighs 10 lbs).

Matthew Mayner · « **Reply #6 on:** October 06, 2010, 02:47:45 pm »

Are those M14 mags it uses or something else?

Looks like another answer looking for a question.

JesseL · « **Reply #7 on:** October 06, 2010, 02:56:45 pm »

Quote from: moose42 on October 06, 2010, 02:47:45 pm

Are those M14 mags it uses or something else?

Accuracy International AI or AW magazines.

tactical22 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2010, 02:57:05 pm »

I like it! Reliable, accurate, high capacity, versatile, easily a 0-1000 yard gun

Just get fast at actuating that bolt as you acquire a new target...

Matthew Mayner · « **Reply #9 on:** October 06, 2010, 03:02:09 pm »

Quote from: JesseL on October 06, 2010, 01:55:20 pm

I'm kinda wondering why it needs such a heavy barrel (and consequently weighs 10 lbs).

Probably because of the detachable mag. Traditional bolties don't get fired in rapid fire strings of 20 rounds at a time, and take two seconds to reload and fire another 20 round string. 40 rounds as fast as one could work the bolt would probably do bad things to a light barrel.

JesseL · « **Reply #10 on:** October 06, 2010, 03:13:42 pm »

But is it really the right rifle for the job if it's being used that way?

Deer Hunter · « **Reply #11 on:** October 06, 2010, 03:14:47 pm »

Quote from: moose42 on October 06, 2010, 03:02:09 pm

Probably because of the detachable mag. Traditional bolties don't get fired in rapid fire strings of 20 rounds at a time, and take two seconds to reload and fire another 20 round string. 40 rounds as fast as one could work the bolt would probably do bad things to a light barrel.

Heavy barrels take longer to heat up, yes, but they also take longer to cool down.

It doesn't need a heavy barrel.

only1asterisk · « **Reply #12 on:** October 06, 2010, 03:15:28 pm »

Quote from: moose42 on October 06, 2010, 03:02:09 pm

Probably because of the detachable mag. Traditional bolties don't get fired in rapid fire strings of 20 rounds at a time, and take two seconds to reload and fire another 20 round string. 40 rounds as fast as one could work the bolt would probably do bad things to a light barrel.

Not going to do a heavy one any favors.

seanp · « **Reply #13 on:** October 06, 2010, 05:09:30 pm »

Quote from: moose42 on October 06, 2010, 03:02:09 pm

Probably because of the detachable mag. Traditional bolties don't get fired in rapid fire strings of 20 rounds at a time, and take two seconds to reload and fire another 20 round string. 40 rounds as fast as one could work the bolt would probably do bad things to a light barrel.

Military rifles like Enfields and Mausers were designed for sustained volume fire and they don't have barrels that heavy. I suspect it's just a tacticool feature.

tactical22 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 06, 2010, 05:37:16 pm »

Probably has better harmonics and significantly less barrel whip than a sporter.

only1asterisk · « **Reply #15 on:** October 06, 2010, 05:46:46 pm »

Quote from: tactical22 on October 06, 2010, 05:37:16 pm

Probably has better harmonics and significantly less barrel whip than a sporter.

[Sarcasm]Why didn't I think of that?[/Sacasm]

JesseL · « **Reply #16 on:** October 06, 2010, 05:52:17 pm »

Quote from: tactical22 on October 06, 2010, 05:37:16 pm

Probably has better harmonics and significantly less barrel whip than a sporter.

I'd buy that reasoning if it were a benchrest gun, and to a lesser degree for a sniper rifle.

This is neither of those, but it weighs more than a Garand. The barrel is only 18-19" which limits whipiness plenty without resorting to a heavy contour.

Sorry for harping on this, but I'd get a lot more excited about this sort of thing if it could shed about 3 lbs.

Thernlund · « **Reply #17 on:** October 06, 2010, 05:56:54 pm »

I've been watching this thread. I just have to chime in to say that Jesse is making sense. The rifles seems overweight.

-T.

Matthew Mayner · « **Reply #18 on:** October 06, 2010, 06:01:03 pm »

Quote from: JesseL on October 06, 2010, 03:13:42 pm

But is it really the right rifle for the job if it's being used that way?

Hey when the zombies come and are busy busting your head open you'll wish you had a 10lb boltie.

JesseL · « **Reply #19 on:** October 06, 2010, 06:03:30 pm »

At that point an SR-25 or similar would be preferred. Same weight and price range too.

only1asterisk · « **Reply #20 on:** October 06, 2010, 06:04:31 pm »

Quote from: Thernlund on October 06, 2010, 05:56:54 pm

I've been watching this thread. I just have to chime in to say that Jesse is making sense. The rifles seems overweight.

-T.

Hell, I don't how they made it that heavy. Maybe the weight includes a loaded mag?

Deer Hunter · « **Reply #21 on:** October 06, 2010, 06:11:05 pm »

No, doesn't say that the weight was recorded with a loaded magazine.

10 pounds? Too heavy for intended purpose. This would make a dandy, lightweight, "scouting" (I hate using buzzwords), rifle. If it was lighter, that is.

Diomed · « **Reply #22 on:** October 07, 2010, 03:34:20 am »

Ridiculous. The only possible use for this thing is in a place where semi-autos are banned, like the UK. Even then they already have equally (if not more so) capable combat-proven bolt actions.

THE NORSEMAN · « **Reply #23 on:** October 07, 2010, 08:47:39 am »

Isn't my money. If it's accurate and the owner likes it? Well, a 20 shot bolt action isn't a bad thing.

Mumbles · « **Reply #24 on:** October 07, 2010, 10:32:12 am »

A few things:

- I don't know what all the crying is about weight. It weighs less than The SR-25 mentioned. It also weighs less than an M-14 in a Sage stock and less than an M-24, both rifles it could conceivably fill the role of (also, the irons, while less precision oriented, are probably a lot more practical than the M-24s Redfield PALMA sights). It weighs significantly less than an M-40A3 (is 4" of barrel worth 6lbs?). It weighs about half what an M-14 in a JAE stock would.
- The AICS mags hold 10 rounds not 20.
- weight was recorded with a 5 rd magazine
- Judging by what's on the rest of the site, it probably will be in the $4000 range, too much for me to be interested in at the moment (or probably ever).
- I hope that style of iron sights catches on on some (hopefully) cheaper rifles.