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Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
« on: August 10, 2010, 04:13:03 pm »

The Firearm Blog- Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine

So. Does this foretell the coming of a Glock Carbine?   :P



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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #1 on: August 10, 2010, 04:35:34 pm »
    If they were smart they would make it so it takes Thompson or Grease-gun mags.
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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #2 on: August 10, 2010, 05:49:55 pm »
     :scrutiny...only 9 round capacity? what? didnt think double stack mags were on anybodies min.......
    oh yeah, nvm, it's high point... :facepalm
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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #3 on: August 10, 2010, 08:04:39 pm »
    Someone needs to really come out with a decent 45acp carbine like this that doesn't suck. I really would love to have something that shoots 45 with a reasonable capacity say 20+ rounds that I could use for home defense. I would love to be able to have cross compatibility with my chosen carry round and it would be awesome, but no highpoint makes it a 9 round ugly as sin, terrible reload wanna be carbine.... :bash



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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #4 on: August 10, 2010, 08:12:23 pm »
    My brother in law has a 9mm hi point.  It points extremely naturally.

    I'm willing to give this gun a go.

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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #5 on: August 11, 2010, 11:39:26 am »
    I have little but scorn for the Hi-point carbine.  My first gun when I turned 18 was a Hi-point carbine.  (I was young and foolish.)  The thing literally fell apart.  Jammed like Rob Zombie in concert and the mag would randomly fall out every 30 seconds or so. POS.  I think its in the bottom of a closet somewhere in the 5th level of hell.
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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #6 on: August 11, 2010, 11:57:09 am »
    My brother in law has a 9mm hi point.  It points extremely naturally.

    I'm willing to give this gun a go.

    this is true. we got a 9mm high point at a gun show. it really does point easily, something about the sights and stock.
    but the one thing i notice as soon as i pick ours up, it that it's heavy! for a carbine, they are really heavy. try to hcarge the handle, and it feels clunky. not stiff, but really heavy, and like your pulling a lot of the gun back, and you can hear stuff grinding all the way. like big flat surfaces grinding togeather.
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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #7 on: August 12, 2010, 12:56:01 pm »

    So. Does this foretell the coming of a Glock Carbine?   :P


    A Glock Carbine in 9mm, .40sw, 10mm and .45 that is compatible with their pistol mags would be like printing money especially if Glock put out factory 30 round mags to go with it.  Why they haven't jumped on the concept I'll never know.  They probably wouldn't be able to make the things fast enough.

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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #8 on: August 12, 2010, 01:03:00 pm »
    A Glock Carbine in 9mm, .40sw, 10mm and .45 that is compatible with their pistol mags would be like printing money especially if Glock put out factory 30 round mags to go with it.  Why they haven't jumped on the concept I'll never know.  They probably wouldn't be able to make the things fast enough.



    I'm not a glock guy but this would actually make me reconsider that decision, a carbine with a 30 round mag option and mag compatibility with my carry gun would certainly be attractive. Actually I would go so far to say I would make the switch to Glocks as at least part of my carry regiment if for only that reason.

    All of that said though you know who should really get off their can and make a carbine like that is Taurus, they always seem to jump on the whimsical features that people are requesting and get guns to market with those features. I think we could have one in hand in less than 6 months if they decided to build it;)

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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #9 on: August 12, 2010, 02:36:15 pm »
    If only the Storm .45 had normal capacity mags.
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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #10 on: August 12, 2010, 02:54:02 pm »
    well Mech Tech http://www.mechtechsys.com/index.html sells a carbine kit that you mount your frame of your Glock to in order to make a shooter....

    or my preference is the Kel-Tec Sub-2000 that accepts Glock mags, don't need to disassemble your pistol to make it work and you can swap mags, they even make a G19 mag model that will take both Glock 15 and 17 round mags, as well as the infamous Glock 32 rounder...oh yeah, and it folds in half for storage too...this is the weapon that Paki that tried and blow up his SUV in times square was carrying when he got busted...

    And for what its worth I had a hi-point 4095 and it shot well but had a few minor mag related feed issues....

    come to think of it, I think I am going to go down and buy a Sub-2000 today...
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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #11 on: August 12, 2010, 03:45:46 pm »
    TBH, I've never understood the Mech Tech.  I don't want to tie up one of my perfectly good pistols.
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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #12 on: August 12, 2010, 06:26:14 pm »
    The problem with the MechTech is that once you make your pistol a rifle, then it can't go back. Fairly recent decision by the ATF, IIRC.

    That said, I've had a PCC (pistol caliber carbine before) and sold it. Everybody raves about the Marlin Camp Carbines. In truth...I was so not impressed.

    If I was going to "Do it again", I'd either get a Beretta Storm or get a 9mm upper for the AR.

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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #13 on: August 12, 2010, 07:06:10 pm »
    A Glock Carbine in 9mm, .40sw, 10mm and .45 that is compatible with their pistol mags would be like printing money especially if Glock put out factory 30 round mags to go with it.  Why they haven't jumped on the concept I'll never know.  They probably wouldn't be able to make the things fast enough.

    Damn!

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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #14 on: August 12, 2010, 07:18:37 pm »
    Everybody raves about the Marlin Camp Carbines. In truth...I was so not impressed.

    I've heard that there is a specific version that was good.  I've never seen one of those...

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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #15 on: August 12, 2010, 07:19:52 pm »
    I am sure that its been kicked around in the Glock boardroom on more than one occasion to produce a weapon with compatible magazine systems to sell in conjunction with their pistols as patrol weapons to keep the edge in the LEO market, but after the North Hollywood shoot out I am sure that it was back burnered when every dept in America started switching out their 12 ga. 870's for Colt AR Carbines....still a 9mm +P out of a 16" barrel has at 50 yards somewhere in the neighborhood as the same power as a .357 out of a 4" service barrel at the muzzle I believe...

    One thing that I have thought on occasion about is if there were ever to be a SHTF scenario at any level that armed defense would be called for what would my wife use?  She is not a shooter at all and I can't imagine handing her a AR or AK while I go to sleep.  However a 9mm carbine using the same mags as my sidearm has a certain logic to it...
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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #16 on: August 12, 2010, 07:35:01 pm »
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    She is not a shooter at all and I can't imagine handing her a AR or AK while I go to sleep.  However a 9mm carbine using the same mags as my sidearm has a certain logic to it...

    Why would she be able to magically operate a PCC instead of an AK? The AK has dirt simple, plainly obvious controls. The AR isn't much farther behind. Any weapon needs a minimum amount of practice to be familiar/be able to use it.

    Have you considered that the force required to run the bolt on a blowback PCC is higher than that required to run the bolt on a gas operated rifle?

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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #17 on: August 12, 2010, 07:38:48 pm »
    yeah, I see your point, but a cheap weapon I could have on hand just in case that uses a common ammo type for my handgun and the same magazines...I just like that concept...
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    « Reply #18 on: August 14, 2010, 09:15:27 am »
    Why would she be able to magically operate a PCC instead of an AK? The AK has dirt simple, plainly obvious controls. The AR isn't much farther behind. Any weapon needs a minimum amount of practice to be familiar/be able to use it.

    Have you considered that the force required to run the bolt on a blowback PCC is higher than that required to run the bolt on a gas operated rifle?

    I can't explain why, but my wife just has trouble handling even a carbine AR or my AK.  (They feel unnaturally heavy, to her).  However she can handle and operate my M1 Carbine, which I think is closer in size/weight to one of these pistol caliber carbines.  Practically speaking it is a pistol-caliber carbine.  Maybe it's just that the M1 Carbine has a much lower moment of inertia because it's so short and more of the weight is towards the center of the gun, I don't know for sure.  But women with less upper-body strength seem to handle these pistol-carbines better than even ARs, in my experience.

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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #19 on: August 14, 2010, 09:18:19 am »
    It's true, my wife shoots my Storm really well.  Even better, she likes it.
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    Re: Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine
    « Reply #20 on: August 14, 2010, 11:02:41 am »
    Looks like Storm the low-cap .45 mag issue is nearing resolution.  A gentleman on the Beretta site is finishing up protos of an extension that at least doubles capacity to !6.

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