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Re: M14 - M1A Rifles
« Reply #275 on: March 21, 2017, 12:38:17 pm »
Nevermind. In looking back through the 11 pages of posts, I see that an Aimpoint is the predominant red dot sight on the scout versions. I happen to have one on another weapon that won't be hard to switch. Thanks in advance.
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    « Reply #276 on: March 21, 2017, 01:46:23 pm »
    Use of a Scout Hand Guard (SHG) & (SHG-M) on your M14/M1A makes the Aimpoint (or similar RDS) that much better.

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    « Reply #277 on: March 31, 2017, 04:21:46 pm »
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    « Reply #278 on: May 17, 2017, 08:15:44 am »
    Select fire M14K

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    « Reply #279 on: June 18, 2017, 04:07:53 pm »

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    « Reply #280 on: June 25, 2017, 08:28:33 am »
    "Don't Want No Drama Queens....Just Want Our M14s"

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    « Reply #281 on: June 25, 2017, 04:52:34 pm »
    QFT .  That ought to be on a T shirt somewhere.    :thumbup1
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    « Reply #282 on: June 25, 2017, 05:22:09 pm »
    "Don't Want No Drama Queens....Just Want Our M14s"
    Ironic, as the rifle pictured just above that quote has:
    - Weird, space age chassis, to save weight
    - A RDS
    - With a level
    - And a bipod
    - To go with the optional magnified optic
    - And the CQB stock
    - In case you want to use the offset sights

    That poor rifle does not know what it was wants to be when it grows up. ::) If I were to dream up a rifle to embody the term 'drama queen'... that would be it.

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    « Reply #283 on: June 25, 2017, 10:47:15 pm »
    Ironic, as the rifle pictured just above that quote has:
    - Weird, space age chassis, to save weight
    - A RDS
    - With a level
    - And a bipod
    - To go with the optional magnified optic
    - And the CQB stock
    - In case you want to use the offset sights

    That poor rifle does not know what it was wants to be when it grows up. ::) If I were to dream up a rifle to embody the term 'drama queen'... that would be it.

    I like my M1A's long.

    God made AK's with folding stocks, if one desires a 30 cal CQB rifle.
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    « Reply #284 on: June 26, 2017, 08:35:31 am »


    The grown up rifle pictured above is the most versatile configuration that I have ever assembled.
    It does everything I need it to do and it does these things very well without a weight penalty.
    Even though the 16.25" barrel pictured is sub MOA accurate, I still believe the 18.00" barrel is the best short barrel option.

     ::) Your confusion is probably due to how the accessories are arranged for the other picture.
    Not everything pictured is attached to the rifle 24/7, it's all there to illustrate flexibility.
    « Last Edit: June 26, 2017, 10:35:48 am by H2O MAN »

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    « Reply #285 on: June 27, 2017, 10:31:56 am »
    It's a shame that the rules of competition keep the wealth of real world improvements in M14 accuracy & reliability that have been proven on the two way range out of competition.

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    « Reply #286 on: June 27, 2017, 12:00:25 pm »
    It's a shame that the rules of competition keep the wealth of real world improvements in M14 accuracy & reliability that have been proven on the two way range out of competition.

    I'm curious. Why would M1A's not be allowed in competition?
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #287 on: June 27, 2017, 02:10:44 pm »
    I'm curious. Why would M1A's not be allowed in competition?

    Yes, why?
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    « Reply #288 on: June 27, 2017, 06:37:54 pm »
     :P I forget to add the title "modernized M14s & M1As"... the way I understand it, even though the EBR has been the go-to military M14 since 2003, you can't compete if your National Match rifle doesn't look vintage.

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    « Reply #289 on: June 27, 2017, 10:32:25 pm »
     I think the troops that actually used the M14EBR-RI in combat did some amazing work with the rifles issued to them, I'd like to see them compete head to head with what the rules call for in NM competitions.

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    « Reply #290 on: June 27, 2017, 10:59:47 pm »
    That makes no sense of why this particular model of rifle has to remain in it's "vintage" configuration.

    Unless everyone else is competing with Lee Enfield's and Garand's in their vintage configurations, they should allow this platform to reach it's full potential.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #291 on: June 28, 2017, 09:01:32 am »
    That makes no sense of why this particular model of rifle has to remain in it's "vintage" configuration.

    Unless everyone else is competing with Lee Enfield's and Garand's in their vintage configurations, they should allow this platform to reach it's full potential.

    I didn't articulate my point as well as you did - thank you.

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    « Reply #292 on: June 28, 2017, 10:01:24 am »
    I may be wrong, but don't AR-15s used in NM competitions have to look pretty much like a basic M16 clone?  If so, M14s are simply being held to the same standard.

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    « Reply #293 on: June 28, 2017, 10:31:38 am »
    I didn't articulate my point as well as you did - thank you.

    No worries :hat.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #294 on: June 28, 2017, 12:18:29 pm »
    I would wager that this resistance to embrace the modernized EBR that is currently issued will be the demise of M14s in competition, over time attrition will kill off the old timers and there will be nobody left to build the traditional NM M14 in wood... The EBR is basically a DIY modification, and it can keep the sport viable for years to come.

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    « Reply #295 on: August 22, 2017, 07:41:53 am »
    The business end of two M14s


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    « Reply #296 on: August 24, 2017, 08:07:47 am »

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    « Reply #297 on: November 23, 2018, 07:00:19 pm »
    My latest acquisition (been mission an M14 style rifle since I got rid of my Polytech). I'm pretty sure this is an early example of the Sage chassis, because of the extended length of the handguard, old black plastic grip, and Speed Feed stock pad, but I'm waiting to hear back from Sage.

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    « Reply #298 on: November 23, 2018, 07:05:00 pm »
    Starting to show some cosmetic goobers but otherwise looks OK.  How's it shoot?
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    « Reply #299 on: November 23, 2018, 07:16:37 pm »
    No idea yet, just picked it up this morning and since then have been watching the kids while the wife's shopping. I'm not a fan of the tan paint job either, paint is older and rubs off on the receiver. I should be able to take it out tomorrow and test it.

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