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Dress up my AR / heatshield?
« on: October 15, 2008, 02:21:48 pm »
I have a Bushmaster XM15 heavy-barrel 16" carbine with collapsible stock.  Love it, light and accurate (1" groups with a bipod).

I finally got around to buying a Picitinny rail to go under the forestock, along with a rail-compatible vertical foregrip.  However, the rail apparently will mean I have to take the lower heatshield out of the forestock, in order to put it on.  I already ordered it ($6 I think for the rail and $6 or $7 for the grip) but do you think this is a big deal, getting rid of the heatshield?  The only way I could see of not having to do that was to buy something like maybe a quad-rail fore-end but those are what $60?  Looking forward to trying out the foregrip but I'm wondering how well this particular setup will work.
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    Re: Dress up my AR / heatshield?
    « Reply #1 on: October 15, 2008, 06:18:28 pm »
    The heat shields are there for a reason...   Just saying.   Most of those rails don't require the removal of the heat sheild.  They will bolt straight through the vent holes... all you have to do is pull off the handguards, bolt on the rails, replace the handguards.  Done. 
    If yours is saying to pull out the heat shields, I'd consider sending that rail back and getting another.
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    Re: Dress up my AR / heatshield?
    « Reply #2 on: October 15, 2008, 08:53:12 pm »
    There's so many options available for AR stuff that you should find one that works with the heat shield.  I'd like the quad rail, but partially for ascetic reasons. I like forgrips for being comfortable while carrying, its not necessary while firing. 
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    « Reply #3 on: October 15, 2008, 09:12:49 pm »
    You might want to wait for the Magpul MOE handguards...

    They should be around $30 or so, apparently. So even us skinflints can get something cool. They also kinda give a FALish look to the handguards

    I like Magpul stuff, and their MOE line gets you pretty cool stuff at an affordable price...



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    « Reply #4 on: October 15, 2008, 11:37:21 pm »
    Plus One on MagPul.  Excellent stuff.
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    « Reply #5 on: October 16, 2008, 07:46:16 am »
    Thanks for the info, I hadn't heard of some of these particulars and I'll keep an eye out.  The brown truck of happiness is dropping off my order tomorrow so then I'll be able to take a closer look and see if the lower heat shield really has to come out or not.

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    « Reply #6 on: October 16, 2008, 11:55:05 pm »
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    like maybe a quad-rail fore-end but those are what $60?

    Uh, I think you're looking at significantly more than $60 for a quad-rail fore end, even for a bottom of the line unit.

    There are rails that will attach to standard type handguards, but I have heard that the handguards don't hold up.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 17, 2008, 07:01:41 pm »
    Well I don't know why CDNN's catalog said this part required removal of the heat shield, but it didn't. Other than temporarily while I was actually attaching the rail to the disassembled handguard, maybe that's what they meant I don't know. The heatshield went back into place without any trouble. Anyway, I got the rail and the VFG on there and I like it!  Looking forward to trying it out at the range tomorrow.

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    « Reply #8 on: October 18, 2008, 03:02:04 am »
    Cool. Are you going to get the shoulder thing that goes up?

    I'm kidding.  ;)  Be sure to give us a range report.
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    « Reply #9 on: October 18, 2008, 09:17:00 am »
    Xsquidgator-  I'm not thumping on you here, I'm just hoping to shed some light on things in case you were unaware.

    You have a set up that just bolts a piece of pic rail to the factory hand guard, correct?  If so, it's fine for range duty, fun times, and cool factor.  But don't use it for serious work.  That set-up won't hold up.

    Again, not bustin' on ya'.  Just making sure you understand that there are limitations here.
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    « Reply #10 on: October 18, 2008, 09:09:01 pm »
    Xsquidgator-  I'm not thumping on you here, I'm just hoping to shed some light on things in case you were unawere.

    You have a set up that just bolts a piece of pic rail to the factory handguard, correct?  If so, it's fine for range duty, fun times, and cool factor.  But don't use it for serious work.  That set-up won't hold up.

    Again, not bustin' on ya'.  Just makng sure you understand that there are limitations here.

    Well, since you mention it, that *is* the setup, yes.  As you say, the rail has two bolts holding it to the lower handguard, which now that you mention it is just molded plastic.  Actually it didn't occur to me that there's a different setup.  What's the heavy duty way to set up a rail and stuff to go on it?  If I'm hearing you right, is the setup I put on there something that might not hold up even to doing some 3 gun matches?  I do IDPA and I've seen the 3 gun guys doing their thing and it looks fun, but if I was going to try 3 gun I'd just be dabbling.

    I do really like the ergonomics of the AR with a red dot and the VFG.  Did some blasting soda cans at 25 yards at the plinking range today with it and it was really sweet.

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    Re: Dress up my AR / heatshield?
    « Reply #11 on: October 18, 2008, 09:26:07 pm »
    Well the best way would be a full float quad rail.  But you're talking 200 plus.  Add a gunsmith install to that as well.

    Or, you can get some quardrail systems that just replace the handguards you have now.  That's more around the 100-200 mark.  Those work pretty well unless you get real rough with the gun.
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    « Reply #12 on: October 19, 2008, 12:17:55 am »
    Just ask yourself how serious of work you are expecting to do with it.
    Are you SWAT, yes or no.  Are you a security contractor about to go to Faluja, yes or no.
    If no on both counts, you are a Home Defender and Rifle Range frequenter... then that set up will do and will do just fine until it breaks.  Might be before spring, might next autumn.  Or a few years from now.  Yes, it will break eventually.  But you can upgrade  to the hard core stuff later.   Enjoy the kit you got.
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