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AR Uppers?
« on: June 12, 2016, 05:43:27 pm »
I've been thinking of building another AR (or 2 or 3),  and I've been having some trouble finding a good source for uppers.   Does nobody make a standard 20"  model anymore?   Seems like every maker out there has jumped on the short tacticool bandwagon and only offers 16" (or shorter) uppers with rails and crap all over them. I've found a handful of places that have longer models available,  but selection is pretty limited and they seem to be perpetually out of stock.  Meanwhile they have dozens of variations of SBR and 16" models available.

I've always liked the standard size better and I really don't care for collapsible M4 style stocks either.   Any suggestions for places I might have overlooked? 




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    Re: AR Uppers?
    « Reply #1 on: June 12, 2016, 06:09:01 pm »
    I really couldn't tell you.  If you find a place, let me know.  I, too, have looked for a specific 20" upper, (A2 clone) and it seems that no quality manufacturer is putting them out.  Cheap places, sure.  But no one who sells quality.

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    Re: AR Uppers?
    « Reply #2 on: June 12, 2016, 09:33:52 pm »
    So far the best prices I've seen in stock were on Rock River, either on their website or at http://www.joeboboutfitters.com for a bit less.    Of course, Joe Bob's is here in Kansas, so I'd end up paying sales tax if I bought from them which would wipe out the savings.

    It would be nice if there was more variety.  Seems like just about everything is 16" or shorter.   
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    « Reply #3 on: June 13, 2016, 02:37:57 am »
    Looks like finding a standard A2 buttstock is going to be a similar chore.  Everyone seems to have caught Magpulitis.    Used to be these things were all over the place,  now everyone is only selling the super tactical collapsible crap.   :banghead

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    « Reply #4 on: June 13, 2016, 07:54:05 am »
    PSA makes regular runs of their premium CL and CHF 20 inch uppers and also standard A2 buttstocks.   I got a complete A2 lower with free shipping for $140 a short while ago.

      FN/FNH is also making 20" AR's, last I saw for good prices. 
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    « Reply #5 on: June 13, 2016, 08:39:27 am »
    I checked PSA, but they didn't have anything like that currently available.   Brownells had some good prices on complete lowers minus the stock and buffer assembly.   I was thinking about having my FFL pick me up a couple and adding the upper whenever I came across a decent deal on one.

    I might just hold off,  Gander Mountain had a special advertised on an SR9E for $299 in the paper yesterday.   I'm going to go over there during lunch today and have a look.  If they have one in stock and I like it,  I might just pick up one of those instead.   
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    « Reply #6 on: June 13, 2016, 01:08:21 pm »
    https://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=268&CFID=560780555&CFTOKEN=59981162

    http://www.fulton-armory.com/fariflecal556mmupruniversalprecisionrifle-3-2-2-7-3.aspx

    Here are two I found right off.  I can't imagine either would sell well except to a dedicated group.  These are really pointed at guys who want to shoot service rifle, not guys looking for a beater for the back of the truck.

    But, both FA and RR also off stripped A2 uppers.  Or you can get an A4 upper and a carry handle rear site base.  In fact, if you watch you local classified, you can usually find them cheap from someone who bought a gun with one and then went "tacticool".

    I bought my A2 Stock on Amazon with the receiver extension.

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    Re: AR Uppers?
    « Reply #7 on: June 13, 2016, 02:16:25 pm »
    I checked PSA, but they didn't have anything like that currently available.   Brownells had some good prices on complete lowers minus the stock and buffer assembly.   I was thinking about having my FFL pick me up a couple and adding the upper whenever I came across a decent deal on one.

    Just watch.  Usually about every week or 2 weeks theres a few shot up on the PSA sight.

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    Re: AR Uppers?
    « Reply #8 on: June 13, 2016, 02:29:47 pm »
    Or, to put it another way: "Patience, my young padawan..."

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    « Reply #9 on: June 13, 2016, 02:37:41 pm »
    Decided to get the SR9E.  Got a good price on it.  $299 minus another $10 for using an online order coupon.  The best price you can find those for online is $350, plus shipping and transfer.
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    « Reply #10 on: June 16, 2016, 04:42:10 pm »
    Hardened Arms offers longer barrel uppers. I have no firsthand experience with them, but a good friend has a few.

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    Re: AR Uppers?
    « Reply #11 on: July 03, 2016, 02:22:04 pm »
    Found a good local guy that had some cheap lowers, snagged 3 Anderson ones with the closed trigger guard for $60 each plus tax.  That's pretty good, since that is comparable to the cheapest online price plus transfer.   

    Now I just need to grab some uppers and lower parts kits whenever I stumble across a good deal.    Not sure what configuration I'll go with,  might use one to make a short pink one for my wife.  Not sure about the other too. 
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    « Reply #12 on: July 04, 2016, 12:45:16 am »
    Grabbed one of these for my first upper.   Yes, I  know it is the opposite of what I was initially looking for.  However,  the price was right at $219 and I am kind of curious to try a Keymod setup.  Doesn't come with a bolt carrier group or charging handle, but I'll probably pick those up separately from AIM or Brownells.    I don't have any experience with CBC, but from what I found online it seems like they are decent enough.  About the same as what I'd get from PSA or somewhere like that.   Now to figure out what to do with the stock.  I probably won't go full size on this one, maybe Magpul MOE.  Then I'll go with a full size A2 or A4 style with one of the other two lowers I have. 

    http://www.cbcindustries.com/collections/ar15-upper-receiver-assembly/products/ar-15-upper-assembly-16-5-56x45-12-cbc-arms-keymod-ar-15-handguard-rail
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    « Reply #13 on: July 18, 2016, 01:43:07 am »
    Still waiting on my CBC upper, I'm guessing they got pretty backlogged with that 4th of July sale.  I did get the lower kit from PSA, and the BCG, sights, and charging handle from Tom's Tactical already though.  Lower is assembled and everything will be put together once the upper arrives, hopefully sometime this week.

    I've decided what I'm going to do with the other two lowers.   I'm going to use one to make a pink carbine for my wife.  The other will be something crazy.   16" .458 SOCOM,  probably with a Magpul STR stock.  :cool   I was initially considering 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel, but from what I've read it is hard to get them to feed reliably, especially if you try to load more than a handful of rounds.   Even the specialized 6.5 Grendel magazines have spotty reliability and are hard to find.    Figured it would be better to have 10 rounds of .458 SOCOM out of a standard AR magazine that could be used with no modification.   The downside is that ammo will be pricey. 




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    « Reply #14 on: July 28, 2016, 10:29:11 pm »
    First rifle is done!  Parts included:

    Anderson Lower,  closed trigger guard.   Bought locally for $60+tax.  Really liked this since it is a pain in the ass to put in the trigger guard roll pin on some of them.  I busted one of the ears off a lower a few years ago trying to do that.   

    CBC Upper, 16" Nitride Finish, Mid-Length gas system, 1:8 twist.   Upper quality seems to be good.  Everything fit together and no major tool marks or scratches.   Keymod rail seems solid, but I'm not sure I'll do another one.  Adds some extra weight towards the front end, and I probably won't be mounting a bunch of accessories or lights to my rifle anyway.   It does fit well and the rail is solid.   I did have a bit of a wait for it.  CBC got slammed with the 4th of July sale, and I think my order got lost in the shuffle.  They were very nice when I called on the phone, but they were not great about calling me back when they said they would and I had to call multiple times.    I think they sold a lot more than anticipated and have been scrambling all month to catch up.    I can't complain too much since I was able to get the upper for only $219 shipped, even if I did have to wait 3.5 weeks for it.     

    STR Lower Build Kit from Palmetto State Armory.   LPK was fine,  the usual standard AR lower parts set that everyone sells.   It came with a Milspec carbine buffer assembly, Magpul MOE grip and STR stock for $140 shipped, which was a very good price.  I've been watching their site to see if they offer this or the CTR version again.   This is the first time I've used anything from Magpul, and I like their stock setup.  I can't stand the standard M4 collapsible stock,  but this one is great and fits me well.   I definitely like the friction lock that comes with the STR and CTR versions,  locks it up solid and gets rid of the annoying wobble.  There is a small gap between the lower and back of the grip, but that is fairly common with MOE grips.  Should not affect function and isn't very noticeable, but I might put a piece of rubber in there anyway.

    Magpul MBUS set from Toms Tactical. $70 shipped.  Fits on the rail and works just fine.  Not as nice as their metal version, but it will do the job.

    Toms Tactical Nitride BCG and Charging Handle set.  $104 shipped.   BCG seems decent and the gas key is staked.   Charging handle is just a basic AR handle.  Nothing special.   

    Lucid HD7 with 2x Magnifier and Flashkill and Magpul PMAG.  Already had these in my pile of gun stuff.   

    Total cost (not including the stuff I already had):  $598.   Going to try to get to the range with it on Saturday and see how it shoots.   Next project will be building up a couple of AR-10 receivers that I ordered earlier this week.  I'll also grab parts to finish the other two lowers as I see good deals on them.   
    « Last Edit: July 28, 2016, 10:40:35 pm by ksuguy »
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    Re: AR Uppers?
    « Reply #15 on: July 29, 2016, 02:00:37 pm »
    What kind of eye relief is on the doubler?  Can you get about 3 fingers between your eye and edge of the ocular or do you have to be right up on it?
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    « Reply #16 on: July 29, 2016, 02:05:05 pm »
    You can back up a bit.  However, it does cut down on the FOV quite a bit.  I don't know if I will leave it on or not, depends on how it does at the range.
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