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Wheel weight price check?
« on: February 04, 2013, 06:59:02 pm »
I'm getting into bullet casting. There are a lot of mom and pop type tire shops in my area and I'm sure they recycle wheel weights to scrap metal recyclers rather than give them away. Anybody have an idea how much would be a fair price to offer?

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    Re: Wheel weight price check?
    « Reply #1 on: February 04, 2013, 07:52:00 pm »
    I'm really curious on this as well I've been considering doing the same for a while now.

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    « Reply #2 on: February 04, 2013, 09:13:06 pm »
    Call a local recycler and ask what they pay per pound.  Offer the going rate, with the added benefit of you picking up, rather than them having to take it to be recycled.  FYI-  Local markets can vary greatly.
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    « Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 09:24:46 pm »
    You will also have to be careful because the newer weights are not formulated the same as the old ones.
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    « Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 11:24:09 pm »
    Another option, your local dump or recycling center should have a location where folks can dump off old car batteries, (for a fee)   I've picked up 10 for free before, just threw them in the back of the truck and no one said nothing. Drained batteries, flushed with plenty of baking soda and water and cracked the case. Got 20+lbs of lead out of each one....
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    « Reply #5 on: February 05, 2013, 12:33:50 pm »
    Another option, your local dump or recycling center should have a location where folks can dump off old car batteries, (for a fee)   I've picked up 10 for free before, just threw them in the back of the truck and no one said nothing. Drained batteries, flushed with plenty of baking soda and water and cracked the case. Got 20+lbs of lead out of each one....

    I always understood that battery lead was no good for bullets due to the calcium content.
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    « Reply #6 on: February 05, 2013, 12:50:47 pm »
    I always understood that battery lead was no good for bullets due to the calcium content.

    I'd be really careful of them anyway due to the other hazmat crap in batteries.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 05, 2013, 12:54:24 pm »
    I'm getting into bullet casting. There are a lot of mom and pop type tire shops in my area and I'm sure they recycle wheel weights to scrap metal recyclers rather than give them away. Anybody have an idea how much would be a fair price to offer?

    It's getting harder to find places like these that don't already have an arrangement in place.  I tried calling and visiting around a few years ago, a low percentage thing.  Called about ten places to find one who let me come by and buy about 3/4 of a 5 gal bucket for $20.  That was some nasty work rooting the wheel weights out of the bucket, in between the road dirt, tire stems, and cigarette butts that were in that bucket.   :vomit
    Do be careful of the new zinc ones, you'll notice they look different and feel lighter, and they will float to the top of your melt.  If you do drop any in your melting pot, get them out of the melt before they do melt or it'll ruin whatever's in the pot.

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    « Reply #8 on: February 05, 2013, 08:03:23 pm »
    Thanks for all the help! I took The Norseman's advice and went by a local recycle-er. He told me that the top dollar going rate for lead alloy wheel weights is .84 cents a pound. He had about 13 lbs for which I paid $10 bucks.

    I put the wheel weights in a big plastic coffee can and drew a line. I figure that's $10 bucks worth of wheel weights by volume  :D. The tire shops in my area are tiny Hispanic owned family affairs and they are not going to have a scale. Many of these folks are naturally distrustful of Gringos and I'd rather pay top dollar for a little good will than get told to bugger off. Life in Texas.... :shrug

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    « Reply #9 on: February 05, 2013, 09:24:49 pm »
    Watch out for razors and other sharp stuff in ww buckets i cut myself pretty good last summer digging in a bucket thay tend to end up as trash cans for odds and ends.
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    « Reply #10 on: February 06, 2013, 07:35:55 am »
    Batteries are great sources of lead.

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    « Reply #11 on: February 06, 2013, 09:23:43 am »
    I personally avoid battery's thay can release some pretty nasty gases.
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    « Reply #12 on: February 06, 2013, 12:41:45 pm »
    Bignate posted what I had to say about batteries.  I am big into lead (12,000 lbs last year) and won't touch them.

    Wheel weights are still your best bet, but when you get them home sort them with side cuts.  Anything the cutters won't mash into isn't lead and should not go in your refine pot.
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    « Reply #13 on: February 08, 2013, 01:24:28 am »
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    Do be careful of the new zinc ones, you'll notice they look different and feel lighter, and they will float to the top of your melt.  If you do drop any in your melting pot, get them out of the melt before they do melt or it'll ruin whatever's in the pot.
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    « Reply #14 on: February 08, 2013, 01:25:58 am »
    I run 2 pots-  One for melting/purifying scrap lead, the other for casting.  My ingot molds?  Mini-muffin tins.  Work perfect.
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    « Reply #15 on: February 08, 2013, 09:48:27 am »
    I've stopped chasing wheel weights.  I got my last free ones 3 years ago.  It isn't worth it once you figure in the time it takes to acuire them and refine them into something useful. 


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    « Reply #16 on: February 08, 2013, 11:26:06 am »
    I run two dutch ovens for cleaning up lead.  When I fire them up I generally do 400-600 lbs.  That happens about 15-20 times a year.  Most of what I ingot up gets sold to Precision cast in Murray, Utah.  I personally use a several hundred to maybe a thousand lbs a year.

    But I have a good source, as long as I take ALL their lead, cash on the barrel.  So, I have found an outlet for the 90% I don't need.
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    « Reply #17 on: February 08, 2013, 12:04:29 pm »
    I run two dutch ovens for cleaning up lead.  When I fire them up I generally do 400-600 lbs.  That happens about 15-20 times a year.  Most of what I ingot up gets sold to Precision cast in Murray, Utah.  I personally use a several hundred to maybe a thousand lbs a year.

    But I have a good source, as long as I take ALL their lead, cash on the barrel.  So, I have found an outlet for the 90% I don't need.

    And so I will hate you forever or until such time as you start packing up some flat rate boxes and spreading the wealth. 

    Seriously, my alloy cost about $2.10/lb delivered per 1000lb.  I once you add time and fuel together with paying for WW's it is pretty close.  Not worth the difference in my circumstances.

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    « Reply #18 on: February 08, 2013, 12:32:07 pm »
    Its getting harder and harder to find ww's here in IL I had to drive 2hrs last time to pick up enough to justify pulling out the turkey fryer.
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    « Reply #19 on: February 09, 2013, 01:55:28 am »
    I work at a car dealership in the parts dept. and have an agreement with the service manager-  the used wheel weights are mine.
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    « Reply #20 on: February 09, 2013, 08:44:42 am »
    Third floor!
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    « Reply #21 on: February 09, 2013, 10:01:16 am »
    Sql...

    You may have some buyers here for some of the 90% you don't need. Murray doesn't need 100% of that 90% do they?

    And yeah, ahhhahaa. Flat rate boxes. Heheheh. Make them work for it.

    Can you make a mold of the exact size and shape of a USPS flat rate box? Heck...would you need to put it in the box? Just stick a shipping label and postage on the lead cube ...

    Muahahahaha.

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    « Reply #22 on: March 08, 2013, 03:10:33 pm »
    And yeah, ahhhahaa. Flat rate boxes. Heheheh. Make them work for it.

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    « Reply #23 on: March 12, 2013, 10:31:55 am »
    I have the same arrangement as Norseman. 

    I wouldn't bother with batteries because of the hazmat.
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