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Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2011, 02:12:56 pm »
Correct.
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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #26 on: June 18, 2011, 03:53:42 pm »
    What I find interesting is the amount of swage between various manufacturers.

    The HXP headstamp cases seem to have three tiny stakes.  Pretty easy.

    Some PS and LC cartridges are a bit harder, but still pretty soft.

    The PPU are not too bad.

    By far the toughest I have are headstamped KA73.  Where the heck do those come from?  Every one of them is leaving a tiny ring of brass that I have to dig out of the primer pocket with a screwdriver.
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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #27 on: June 19, 2011, 11:56:07 am »
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    By far the toughest I have are headstamped KA73.

    EDIT:  Wrong info.

    Corrected: KA is corrosive boxer style Korean ammo.   That 73 is most likely the year code.  Sorry for the earlier mis-direct.
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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #28 on: June 19, 2011, 01:42:54 pm »
    Thanks Norseman.

    I knew what the 73 signified, but not the KA.

    Is there any list somewhere what the other headstamps mean?

    As mentioned above, I've got some PS (unknown) and LC (Lake City), and from a post elsewhere, I think the PPU are Yugoslavian.

    I also have some marked "30 M-1" across the top of the head, with "FC 09" across the bottom of the head.  2009 production, assuming for the .30 M-1 Garand.  What does the FC signify?
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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #29 on: June 19, 2011, 02:04:05 pm »
    FC- Federal Cartridge
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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #30 on: June 19, 2011, 02:08:13 pm »
    Duh!

    I kinda figured that the F stood for federal, but I was having a brain cloud on the C.
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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #31 on: June 19, 2011, 02:14:06 pm »
    Edit:  See reply #27.  I was thinking of the KS headstamp earlier, this plant was operated by the Kelly Springfield tire company, and is (or was) in Cumberland, MD.   

    Those KA marked '06 cases are Korean.
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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #32 on: June 19, 2011, 08:28:01 pm »
    Corrosive, eh?  Well, I didn't shoot them originally, and I've since tumbled them (twice), so I shouldn't need to worry about them when and if I ever get around to reloading them.
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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #33 on: August 13, 2013, 11:17:00 pm »
    I know this post is old, but I too had the RCBS swager and it sucked! Bought a Dillon
    SS600 and never looked back.
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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #34 on: August 14, 2013, 04:47:00 am »
    I've since bought the Dillon Super Swage as well, and it is infinitely better. Processed about 2k of 5.56 brass (still haven't even put a dent in my bucket of 5.56 brass :facepalm ) and it's really easy once you hack the machine (Google "Dillon Super Swage Modification) and get into a rhythm.

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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #35 on: August 14, 2013, 09:21:31 am »
    Since you guys resurrected the thread, I thought I'd mention a much cheaper and über efficient alternative.  For about $10-15 you can get a Lyman, Hornady or RCBS manual rotary crimp remover.

    I use the Lyman one.  I simply unscrew the cutter from the handle and chuck it up in a small low speed drill.  I have one old drill I leave permanently chucked up with a small primer cutter, and sitting on my bench.  I clamp the drill in my bench vice, turn on the drill, pick up a military case and touch it to the spinning cutter.  Takes maybe 2-3 seconds per case.

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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #36 on: August 17, 2013, 12:26:39 pm »
    Since you guys resurrected the thread, I thought I'd mention a much cheaper and über efficient alternative.  For about $10-15 you can get a Lyman, Hornady or RCBS manual rotary crimp remover.

    I use the Lyman one.  I simply unscrew the cutter from the handle and chuck it up in a small low speed drill.  I have one old drill I leave permanently chucked up with a small primer cutter, and sitting on my bench.  I clamp the drill in my bench vice, turn on the drill, pick up a military case and touch it to the spinning cutter.  Takes maybe 2-3 seconds per case.

    Problem with the Lyman one is it wears out. Mine won't get enough of the crimp
    out of .223 cases. The Dillon SS 600 is now about a hundred bucks, but I do
    thousands of .223 and it's so easy and quick to use.
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    Re: Swage removal - Dillon vs RCBS
    « Reply #37 on: August 17, 2013, 04:11:55 pm »
    No doubt the Lyman cutter will dull out.  I've only reamed about 300 cases and its still sharp.  I hear the Hornady version is harder.  I may order one and hold it in reserve.  For those of us who are not high volume reloaders, this alternative is much cheaper.  When I get to about 2000 cases, I'm probably done in crimp removal anyway.
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