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Stuck case
« on: January 22, 2011, 05:58:10 pm »
Okay.  I thought about just reviving the old thread (https://wethearmed.com/index.php/topic,1776.0.html) on this, but it is over a year old, so decided to start a new one.

I got a .223 case stuck in a Lee die last night.  I've been using RCBS case lube for years, no problems.  I usually can run one lubed case, then 10 or so more unlubed (other than what gets on them from the fingers of the hand holding the unlubed brass, which is usually a fair amount).  I know, I know.  That's not the way it's supposed to work, but if I lube every case I get too much lube in the die.   Maybe there's too much on the lube pad, but I don't even put as much on as the instructions say, so I don't think that's it.  (As an aside, I can usually do two unlubed following every one lubed in .30-06 without problems as well.)

Anyway, I got the decapping pin holder off this morning, after letting the die sit in the deep freeze all night.  However, I absolutely cannot get the decapping pin out.  I was able to drive it about 75/1000" further out from the bottom, but it appears the expander portion of the pin is sticking in the neck of the case.  The pin is driven far enough back inside the case that it is no longer supported by the flash hole, so I'm reluctant to try driving it further, for fear or bending or breaking it.  I've tried running screws into the flash hole, to self-tap the hole for using the socket, washer, bolt method of case removal, but the threads on the screws keep sheering off.  This is one tough piece of brass!  I don't want to use a drill for fear of hitting the decapping pin, which is just above the flash hole.

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    Re: Stuck case
    « Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 06:07:43 pm »
    Case lube is cheap, and wiping it off is easy - so.. I've never had a stuck case. Not what you want to hear, I know. If it get's too crazy just E-mail Lee. They will probably let you send in the die and punch it out/give you a new one. Their customer service is usually pretty good.
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    « Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 07:18:24 pm »
    Torch the whole die, the shoot some WD-40 into the flash hole, pull apart. Might take a couple cycles.
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    Re: Stuck case
    « Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 08:54:35 pm »
    Add hitting the case head with that spray can circuit cooler after heating the die if you're going to try that way.

    After this is resolved, get some of this - http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=519525  Use sparingly.  No more stuck cases, no more messy cases either.  I use this for bottleneck rifle calibers, and Hornady one shot for straight wall pistol calibers.
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    Re: Stuck case
    « Reply #4 on: January 22, 2011, 09:16:04 pm »
    Add hitting the case head with that spray can circuit cooler after heating the die if you're going to try that way.

    After this is resolved, get some of this - http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=519525  Use sparingly.  No more stuck cases, no more messy cases either.  I use this for bottleneck rifle calibers, and Hornady one shot for straight wall pistol calibers.

    That stuff is good. I don't bother with carbide pistol dies ( and clean cases) but for rifles - that's what prevents this.
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    Re: Stuck case
    « Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 03:24:58 am »
    Soak it in jar full of KROIL for 24 to 48 hours then try again?
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    « Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 06:56:45 pm »
    When in doubt - read the directions.

    Lee puts it right in the directions that in case of a stuck case, "loosen, but do not remove - the decapper clamp.  Use a drift punch and large hammer (1-lb. or larger) to tap lightly on the decapper rod and drive the suck case free."  Their website is a bit more specific, saying to use a 3/16" rod.  Which I had a couple of.

    I soaked the die overnight in liquid wrench (my wife's suggestion), then mounted it in one of the RCBS presses.  Followed the above procedure and hit it gently about three times with the back of a single bit axe.  The case popped right out.  Wrapped a rag around the decap pin several times and held it in a pair of vise grips (to prevent marring the pin any further).  Clamped another pair of vise grips around the shell and clamped that pair to a sawhorse with the shell/rod pointing down.  Then simply whacked the handle of the pair holding the decap pin and it came right out.

    Cleaned the liquid wrench off (it's stinky), reassembled the die, and reinstalled in the Dillon, and I'm back in business!
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    Re: Stuck case
    « Reply #7 on: January 24, 2011, 09:34:00 pm »
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    Cleaned the liquid wrench off (it's stinky), reassembled the die, and reinstalled in the Dillon, and I'm back in business!
    ;D :clap

     But did your order the sizing die wax yet?
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    Re: Stuck case
    « Reply #8 on: January 24, 2011, 10:41:37 pm »
    ;D :clap

     But did your order the sizing die wax yet?

    Not yet.  But it is scheduled for my next order from Midway.
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