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Question on .38SPL Dies
« on: January 11, 2013, 01:19:01 am »
I was in a LGS today and they had a used set of RCBS .38SPL dies for $10. But they weren't labeled ".38SPL/.357Mag" like I'm used to.

Is there any chance they're ONLY good for .38SPL? I think I'm gonna go back and get them tomorrow, regardless, since I'll shoot a lot more .38SPL than .357 Mag, but I wondered if that was why they were so cheap.
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    Re: Question on .38SPL Dies
    « Reply #1 on: January 11, 2013, 10:05:50 am »
    Were they carbide?
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    Re: Question on .38SPL Dies
    « Reply #2 on: January 11, 2013, 10:31:08 am »
    Used dies were fairly common in the $10-20 range.  The sizing and expanding dies will most likely work although you might find that the seating die is near the limit of its adjustment.  You may not be to happy with them in your Dillon, but they are $10.

    PS.  I picked up a Neil Jones Bushing FL size die in .260 Improved for $25 this week.  I ALWAYS go though the used dies.

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    Re: Question on .38SPL Dies
    « Reply #3 on: January 11, 2013, 11:08:52 am »
    Actually, if they're marked .38 Special, they'll work for both.  If they were only marked .357 Magnum, then you need to be concerned.  .38 Specials are shorter than .357s, so the expander and seating plugs have to be able to screw farther down into the die.  For .357s, you simply back the rods out a tenth of an inch or so and you're golden.

    But . . . if you are going to use the sizing die from this set, you really want carbide.  I have a set of Lee carbide dies, and two sets of steel RCBS dies.  I use the Lee sizing die, but not the expander die. 
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    Re: Question on .38SPL Dies
    « Reply #4 on: January 13, 2013, 04:12:14 pm »
    If they're carbide snatch them up, if not - I wouldn't take non-carbide pistol dies if they threw in 10-bucks. Too much hassle lubing and cleaning, I don't mind it for rifle, but not pistol.
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    Re: Question on .38SPL Dies
    « Reply #5 on: January 13, 2013, 06:49:40 pm »
    That's what I ended up doing. They were not carbide. I looked at it as I could spend $10 on the set and $20 to replace the sizing die with carbide, or I could just buy a $30 set of carbide dies.

    What I'm really gonna do is keep trading brass to my cousin for loaded .38's and not buy the dies for a few years.
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    Re: Question on .38SPL Dies
    « Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 11:26:34 pm »
    If you are going to use the dies on a Dillon progressive, you will be happier with Dillon dies in the long run.  Dies meant for use on a progressive press have funneled relief area to simplify guiding the case into the dies.  I quickly tired of using dies designed for single stage press operation.
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    Re: Question on .38SPL Dies
    « Reply #7 on: January 30, 2013, 12:12:47 am »
    ^^^^^ yep.  I still use non Dillon dies mostly, because I had all that before buying the 650.  But having loaded with the dillon dies a few times, I will readily admit it makes a very noticeable difference.
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    Re: Question on .38SPL Dies
    « Reply #8 on: January 30, 2013, 03:06:07 am »
    ^^^^^ yep.  I still use non Dillon dies mostly, because I had all that before buying the 650.  But having loaded with the dillon dies a few times, I will readily admit it makes a very noticeable difference.

    Good to know. Now that I think about it, I think only have Dillon dies for 9mm. I didn't notice the difference between my [Dillon] 9mm dies and my [Lee] .40 dies. I'll pay more attention next time I load those.
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