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IMR 4895 & 62grn bullets?
« on: June 21, 2012, 07:00:09 pm »
I've been gettin into shooting allot lately so I picked up a lee load master and scored some .223 pre primed cases and 62grain fmj pull down bullets and IMR 4895 powder.

I'm still tryin to completely wrap my head around charges and how much to use.


After gettin the bullets I read a bunch of what people are using and never came across anyone using 62grain bullets so I don't know where I should start with powder amount.

I also have the lee pro auto disk powder measure so I gotta decipher that too lol.

If anyone can point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it allot,thank you.
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    Re: IMR 4895 & 62grn bullets?
    « Reply #1 on: June 21, 2012, 07:27:24 pm »
    The quick answer is that load data is available online from powder manufacturers and a number of bullet manufacturers.

    Take a look here: http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

    The long term (and smart) answer is that you should get yourself a copy of The ABCs of Reloading and a few different load books.

    www.amazon.com/Lyman-49Th-Edition-Reloading-Handbook/dp/B001MYEU0E/
    www.amazon.com/Complete-Reloading-Manual-Remington-Caliber/dp/B000VK0P8Q/


    For the powder measure, you may need the double disk kit to get charges large enough for .223.

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    Re: IMR 4895 & 62grn bullets?
    « Reply #2 on: June 21, 2012, 08:07:05 pm »
    Thanks! It's a start lol.

    Im makin sure I know the ins and outs of reloading before I start filling the powder hopper.


    Again thank you.
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    Re: IMR 4895 & 62grn bullets?
    « Reply #3 on: June 21, 2012, 10:30:52 pm »
    Also, what rifle will you be shooting these in?  What is the twist rate of the barrel?  Longer, heavier bullets need faster twist rates to stabilize them.  (Or is it slower twist rates?)  Norseman?  Anybody?  I'm at work, so don't have access to info, but I know with my Mini-14 55gr bullets are what I should be shooting to keep them from tumbling/yawing.

    Read the book(s).
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    « Reply #4 on: June 21, 2012, 10:34:30 pm »
    Most 62gr .223 bullets should stabilize fine in a 1-9" or faster. Maybe a 1-10".
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    « Reply #5 on: June 22, 2012, 12:54:43 am »
    I'll be loading it for my AR15 with a 1-10" twist.

    The closest I found on the hodgdon site was for 63 grain which is probably a bit difference than 62 as far as powder grain measure yeah?
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    Re: IMR 4895 & 62grn bullets?
    « Reply #6 on: June 22, 2012, 10:49:06 am »
    Do you know who made the bullets, or if they're military SS109/M855?
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    « Reply #7 on: June 22, 2012, 12:57:09 pm »
    Got em off fsreloading- .223 62 Grain SS109 Full Metal Jacket Pull Down Bullets right off the site.
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    « Reply #8 on: June 22, 2012, 01:30:29 pm »
    There can be a lot of factors that determine the appropriate powder charge for a bullet besides weight. Thickness of the jacket, length of the bearing surface, etc.

    Now some googling has turned up a few people claiming that 24.5 grains of IMR-4895 is an appropriate charge for an SS-109 bullet, and that is right in the middle of the max and min listed by Hodgdon for the 63 GR. Sierra SP; but I still wouldn't use that until I'd confirmed it against a published source, and of course I'd reduce it by 10% (to 22gr) for a start and work up to the max.
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    « Reply #9 on: June 22, 2012, 01:40:08 pm »
    Awesome,yeah I'll grab a book today and read my arse off.

    That's also what I found for 63grain 22.9-25.3? Or something close but on gonna do what you really suggest and grab a book.

    Is that 2nd lee book worth grabbin?
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    « Reply #10 on: June 22, 2012, 01:48:45 pm »
    When it comes to load books, it pays to have at least 3. Being able to cross check them to be sure you're not working from a publishing error, and to develop a feel for which are more conservative is invaluable.
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    « Reply #11 on: June 22, 2012, 02:04:42 pm »
    Awesome,thank you.


    Just ordered the abc's of reloading and the remington .223 book just gotta grab another and I'm gonna be busy for hrs.
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    Re: IMR 4895 & 62grn bullets?
    « Reply #12 on: June 28, 2012, 05:47:58 pm »
    Looks like the guys have you steered right, so I'll just add this-

    I'll suggest the Hornady 2 volume set as a good second reference and a good general resource.  The caliber specific books are great once you've got some experience under your belt for some  fast data crosscheck, but they are almost useless when it comes to the "how to" part of things.  Also- don't forget that Hodgdon has a 4895 powder floating around out there too.   Make sure you are looking at the right "4895" when you're working up loads.  They are similar, but NOT directly interchangeable.
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    « Reply #13 on: June 28, 2012, 09:13:44 pm »
    Thanks for the tips.

    I got my abc of reloading today and I'm loving it.

    I was looking at the hornady book since you mentioned it specificly I grab that as my 2nd ref book.

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