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Identify That Headstamp
« on: May 11, 2010, 12:52:24 am »
This could turn into a trivia game thread, which would be awesome.

But for the moment, I have a question.

I have the day off tomorrow so I'm spending the evening cleaning and sorting my brass from my .50cal ammo can brass bucket. I keep running into what appear to be 9mm cases with:

"WCC 08 [symbol]"

My camera isn't good enough to get a pic [or the photographer isn't good enough] but that's the only marking on the head. It does NOT say "9mm Luger" anywhere on it.

It's possible this is just range pick-up stuff and not my brass, but I want to know if it's actually 9mm or something else. I'm separating it from the 9mm for now.
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    Re: Identify That Headstamp
    « Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 12:58:25 am »
    WCC is Western Cartridge Company, 08 is the date code, and I'm guessing the symbol is a NATO symbol like this?:



    If so, you've got 9x19mm NATO brass.
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    Re: Identify That Headstamp
    « Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 01:07:21 am »
    Yup, that's the symbol.

    So is 9X19 NATO good to chuck in with the 9mm Luger brass?
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    Re: Identify That Headstamp
    « Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 01:28:33 am »
    Yup.  GTG.

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    Mic a few of them to make damn sure they are 9mm and not something else.  Almost all surplus NATO ammo is like that, lists production year, Mfg, and the NATO certifying cross and circle, but almost never a caliber designation.   I have a bunch of WCC 04  NATO brass.  Yes, I know it's 38 special, but someone else could mistake it for 357 brass if they weren't paying close attention.  That would lead to disaster.
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    Re: Identify That Headstamp
    « Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 04:34:41 pm »
    Just one other note as far as NATO brass is concerned. The case wall especially at the web is slightly thicker on NATO spec so if you are loading near or at limits like your own version of +P or +P+ loads, you need to back off slightly when loading these cases. As a demonstration unit for my reloading classes I split a STD, +P, +P+, and NATO 9mm cases and pasted them to a board along with a variety of other cases and bullets. I know I've still got the board around somewhere but not sure what cases are still glued to it. I'll see about taking a pictuer and posting it.

    Just something to keep in the back of your head. Also, if you don't sort by headstamp and load up a bunch you will get velocity variations with the different case volumes and the same load, OAL, bullet, crimp, etc.
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    Re: Identify That Headstamp
    « Reply #5 on: May 11, 2010, 05:42:42 pm »
    I just wanted to make sure it was close enough to 9mm to be safe. I don't load for 9 and don't plan to- just not cost effective. I'm just sorting that caliber out to trade.
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