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I want to start reloading/price check question
« on: March 06, 2012, 10:40:02 am »
I really would like to get into reloading so I can afford to shoot more :-p

I already have several thousand brass casings in 9mm, .40, and .45 saved up, so I'm good to go there. 

I'm looking at presses and I found one locally that I'm interested in, but I wonder if it's too complicated for a beginner and also wonder if it's a good price.

It's a Dillon Square Deal B. It comes with the 38/357 and 40 conversion kits and the strong mount. I can get it locally for $440. The seller says that they only loaded about 100 rounds through it since they "got it back from Dillon".

Thoughts?

I know I'll have to get a tumbler, scale, and components, but that seems like a pretty good price to me. Is a progressive too complex for a beginner?
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    Re: I want to start reloading/price check question
    « Reply #1 on: March 07, 2012, 12:54:43 am »
    That particular press is about the best to learn on, if one is starting with a progressive press.  Price-wise, it's a fair deal, no one's walking away the clear winner, though in my neck of the woods, I's try to talk the price down a little.

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    See the sticky threads at the top of the forum.
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    Re: I want to start reloading/price check question
    « Reply #2 on: March 09, 2012, 12:36:52 pm »
    After some further research, I don't think this is the press I'm looking for. :)

    I don't even own any rifles right now other than a .22, but I'm planning on building an AR15 this summer and will want to reload for that as well, so the Square Deal is out.

    I'm now debating between the Hornady Lock-N-Load AP and the Lee Classic Turret.  Not exactly an apples to apples comparison...

    Pro for the LNL AP- More rounds per hour, ability to use a powder check die (Lock out or powder cop), 500 free bullets
    Con for the LNL AP- More expensive, more complex, probably more difficult for a beginner

    The turret is obviously cheaper and less complex, but is also a lot slower. 

    Am I stupid to buy the LNL AP and start learning on it?

    I do have the ABCs of Reloading as well as the Lee Handbook of Reloading 2nd edition. I've read both :)
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    Re: I want to start reloading/price check question
    « Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 12:54:50 pm »
     I would advise a Dillon 550 progressive.  Best service and warranty response in the business.
     It is as easy to learn on as any other type of press and can be used in single stage fashion.
     For handguns you will need dies a scale, loading manual and dies.
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    I want to start reloading/price check question
    « Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 01:19:42 pm »
    I love Dillon products but they are pricy. The SDB is great if you are only loading one caliber. Plus I think you can find a better price directly from dillon.
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    Re: I want to start reloading/price check question
    « Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 11:10:52 pm »
    Any mentors in your area, kayl?

    IF you are SURE you want to roll your own, I would recommend ponying up the bucks for the Dillon 550, and not looking back.  That's not saying the others are bad or substandard, but this is a case of getting what you pay for. 
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    Re: I want to start reloading/price check question
    « Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 02:54:03 am »
    I want to learn how as well...interested
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    Re: I want to start reloading/price check question
    « Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 03:46:51 am »
    Learning from an experienced reloader is nice. For me, none of the experienced guys in my area were willing to teach me from the ground up. They were all high-volume progressive loaders, and nobody wanted to teach me on my Lee Turret (which I advise against, btw). Great guys to talk the finer points of loading with, but they can't trace back far enough for a beginner.

    I bought ABC's of Reloading, read it cover to cover, then got the Speer manual, and read the front sections of it, and taught myself, very carefully, with some trial and error. By the time I got my Dillon 650, I kinda knew what I was doing.

    You can learn on your own if you're very careful and cautious. If you start on a progressive, find someone who knows what he's doing.
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    Re: I want to start reloading/price check question
    « Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 12:50:45 pm »
    I started small with a Lee single stage press, it was their anniversary edition and I got everything but the dies and shell plate for 90 bucks.

    Pretty much had to figure things out on my own, but I roll pretty darn good .308 ammo (sum MOA from what I can tell) and I can load all I want to shoot for now.

    For starting out I would definitely recommend starting with one of these presses, I may upgrade to a progressive for things like handgun ammo and .223 but I imagine I'll always have the Lee set up for the match rifle ammo. 

    I didn't do what most folks told me to do which was buy a bunch of books and read up.
    I did however find that Hogdon has a pretty cool chart thing on their website that tells me load data etc. and so I built my loads up from their minimum specs and stay clear of their max end.


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