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Getting into reloading, is this a good place to start?
« on: October 27, 2010, 02:44:45 am »
http://www.seattleguns.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=26709

Looks like a pretty decent deal, I messaged the guy about available dies and hopefully getting either a couple sets thrown in for free or a price discount since the trip down there is gonna run me close to $100 (darn ferry fees)

Anyway your advice would be appreciated to this reloading newbie
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    Re: Getting into reloading, is this a good place to start?
    « Reply #1 on: October 27, 2010, 06:24:52 am »
    One thing I'd be concerned about is that if you are getting into reloading and learning it, I agree with the conventional wisdom that doesn't think a progressive press is a good thing when you're just learning the processes.  There are just too many things going on simultaneously every time the handle moves, to be confident enough that each round coming out is made correctly and has the right powder charge.

    As far as is this press a good deal ...
    Doing a little googling, Dillon's price for a brand new 550 is $419.
    If this guy is asking $325 for one missing one or two parts, and it'll cost you about $100 and 6+ hours roundtrip (pretty much all day of one of your off days)... I'd just buy a brand new one with those $ figures.  Doesn't strike me as enough $ savings to justify that big trip out there to look at it and buy it.
    It'd be kind of iffy for me to grab that at $100 off even if it was in the same town, at least unless I could give it a good looking over in person.  

    If the $ involved are that crucial or your funds are limited, perhaps you could consider something less expensive?
    Even if $ aren't a factor, I'm a big fan of learning with something like a Lee classic turret press.  I learned on one of those, and the press is less than $100.  It'll make up to 200 rounds an hour once you get used to operating it (after maybe a few months of using it).  In a couple of seconds you can take out a plastic piece (or put it back into place) to turn off the autoindexing function, turning it into more or less a single stage.
    Another popular way to get into reloading is to start out by buying a single stage press kit.  If you want budget priced stuff Lee isn't bad, and if you want better quality stuff, you can get a single stage press like an RCBS Rockchucker or almost any other brand.

    Just my opinion, but, I'd recommend a different deal to get into reloading.  Some sort of single stage or maybe turret press is best for learning, or if you really want a progressive, maybe just pick up a brand new one.  It doesn't seem to me that this guy is taking enough off of the Dillon to be worth the better part of a day of your time, if I have the prices about right.  It looked to me like the other dies and accessories are on top of the $325 he wants for the basic press (minus the couple of parts he doesn't have).
    « Last Edit: October 27, 2010, 10:00:10 am by xsquidgator »

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    « Reply #2 on: October 27, 2010, 07:27:31 am »

    I also think it is better to learn the basics on a single stage press.  Don't let that stop you from getting the DIllon now  if you think you can come out ahead.  Just buy a $30 Lee to learn on. 

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    « Reply #3 on: October 27, 2010, 10:24:41 am »
    Thanks for the advise, I will be taking it. Just added a turret press the to christmas list, 200 rounds an hour is plenty for me.
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    « Reply #4 on: October 27, 2010, 10:48:01 am »
    Thanks for the advise, I will be taking it. Just added a turret press the to christmas list, 200 rounds an hour is plenty for me.

    Great!  If you get a Lee turret, I strongly recommend getting the Lee "Classic" turret press instead of the plain Lee "turret press".  (I didn't know better and bought the latter, and later on bought the Classic)  The Classic is better made and has some better features designed into it (such as the spent primers going into a tube on the Classic, as opposed to just being dumped into the base of the press as on the plain turret press.

    When you get ready to make the plunge, put your purchase list up and I'm sure everyone will have advice on what to buy in addition to the kit.  Don't worry, you're going to be making a lot of purchases after this anyway, but it is nice to know that you have the critical needs taken care of before you try to get started.

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    « Reply #5 on: October 27, 2010, 12:04:46 pm »
    The primer catch tray is not a big deal.  The other part, not exactly sure what it is.  Why drive down there when you have the option of shipping it?  Or does he not ship?

    Even if you're new at reloading, I think a progressive setup is just fine.  While the others say stick with a single stage, I like to think that if you can handle a gun, you can figure out how to operate a progressive.  When I was a newbie reloader, I started out on a progressive.  I think I would have been frustrated with a single stage.
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    « Reply #6 on: October 27, 2010, 08:55:43 pm »
    Steve's right, if you have the IQ to handle firearms or drive safely and a touch of mechanical aptitude, learning on a progressive is easily doable.  

    I still prefer a new reloader with no experience runs through their first die/press set-up and 200 rounds or so on a single stage, preferably with an experienced reloader present.  That way if something does go wrong, it can be sorted out quickly with no guess work.
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    « Reply #7 on: October 27, 2010, 09:22:36 pm »
    I still prefer a new reloader with no experience runs through their first die/press set-up and 200 rounds or so on a single stage, preferably with an experienced reloader present.  That way if something does go wrong, it can be sorted out quickly with no guess work.

    The experience is worth $30 (of which $20 can be reclaimed in the event  you find you have no use for single stage press).
    It's like learning to drive a stick before an automatic and worthwhile for exactly the same reason.

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    « Reply #8 on: October 27, 2010, 11:13:33 pm »
    I wish I knew someone who could run me through reloading. I had one buddy who did it but I havent seen him in 5 years. I guess I should bite the bullet and join the local shooting club. I dont have to go to the range to shoot so it always seemed like a waste of money. It seems like all of you hear have suggested a teacher of some sort. Anyone in the western washington area that wants to take a trip to beautiful whidbey island for dinner, reloading and some beer (after the reloading of course)
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    Re: Getting into reloading, is this a good place to start?
    « Reply #9 on: October 28, 2010, 01:50:37 pm »
    I suggest you just get some reloading manuals and read, read, read.  The Lyman and Hornady manuals for example, both have excellent reloading tutorials.  I also recommend "The Complete Reloading Guide" by Traister(s) as a good reference for the mechanics of reloading.  Just don't use the reloading data.  Some of it is not good.

    You can easily learn to reload that way.  Just be careful, conservative, and only use published, and preferably verified load data.
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    « Reply #10 on: October 28, 2010, 09:13:00 pm »
    It's been mentioned before in other threads, but it bears a mention here.  "The ABCs of Reloading"  should be on EVERY reloaders bookshelf right next to the data manuals.  Mwcoleburn, I highly recommend you beg borrow or buy a copy of that book and give it a read.
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    « Reply #11 on: October 28, 2010, 09:49:36 pm »
    picking up the book tomorrow after work!
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