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Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
« on: October 30, 2009, 03:37:39 pm »
Here's an article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammo from www.tacticalgunfan.com

Improving the performance of 7.62x39mm ammo

In the old days match shooters called something similar Mexican Match, I call this Moscow Match.......

feel free to share any comments........
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009, 03:47:23 pm »
    Is it actually possible to pull the bullets from imported 7.62x39 using an inertial puller? The last time I tried I ended up breaking the handle of my puller.
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009, 03:51:44 pm »
    Quote from: David M. Fortier on October 30, 2009, 03:37:39 pm
    If you desire to load a different weight projectile, a projectile with a longer bearing surface or a solid copper projectile, then you need to use an appropriate powder charge. Otherwise pressure can spike, leading to bad things.

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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #3 on: October 30, 2009, 04:03:52 pm »
    In Russia the ammunition improves you!

    Seriously its flipping 7.62x39 the best way to improve it is change to some other caliber.
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #4 on: October 30, 2009, 04:36:12 pm »
    Quote from: moose42 on October 30, 2009, 04:03:52 pm
    Seriously its flipping 7.62x39 the best way to improve it is change to some other caliber.

    That advice could be applied to just about any round someones wants to improve on, but do you see something inherently wrong with 7.62x39?
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #5 on: October 30, 2009, 04:56:00 pm »
    Quote from: JesseL on October 30, 2009, 04:36:12 pm
    That advice could be applied to just about any round someones wants to improve on, but do you see something inherently wrong with 7.62x39?

    I own a SKS and a pile of ammo for it, but improving upon the 7.62x39 seems to be like putting lipstick on a pig.
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #6 on: October 30, 2009, 05:39:09 pm »
    Quote from: moose42 on October 30, 2009, 04:56:00 pm
    I own a SKS and a pile of ammo for it, but improving upon the 7.62x39 seems to be like putting lipstick on a pig.

    I don't see why. With a good barrel and good bullets the round is capable of very good accuracy, its power is adequate for all kinds of applications, and it feeds well.

    If we didn't have the 7.62x39, it would be necessary to create it.
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #7 on: October 30, 2009, 07:07:11 pm »
    Quote from: JesseL on October 30, 2009, 03:47:23 pm
    Is it actually possible to pull the bullets from imported 7.62x39 using an inertial puller? The last time I tried I ended up breaking the handle of my puller.


    Yes you can pull them with one, but it gets old fairly quickly. But I have pulled far too many over the years in that manner.
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #8 on: October 30, 2009, 07:09:30 pm »
    Quote from: moose42 on October 30, 2009, 04:56:00 pm
    I own a SKS and a pile of ammo for it, but improving upon the 7.62x39 seems to be like putting lipstick on a pig.

    Why? Terminal performance can be noticeably improved compared to M43 or M67 ball......
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #9 on: October 30, 2009, 10:32:43 pm »
    Thing is where is most of this surp from the 60's and 70's? The Russians have changed and improved alot of the ammo loads since then, would be intresting comparing 60's ammo to nowadays.
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #10 on: October 30, 2009, 10:55:38 pm »
    I haven't noticed anything wrong with 7.62x39.  I've hit p-dogs at 200 yards and elk sized targets at (I think it was) 400 yards.  That was with iron sights.  If there's something else you want it to do, then I'm at a loss.  Unless you want it like the bullets from the movie "Runaway." 
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #11 on: October 31, 2009, 12:36:22 am »
    Which perfomance metric needs to be improved?  Terminal Ballistics or External Ballistics?

    I know a fellow local here that simply cuts the tips off the bullets... the results are bigger wound channels.  That's one simple way.  Dremmel with a cutoff wheel.  He cuts off about a 3/16ths off the front, then cuts an X. Done.  I've never given it much thought and I've not tried it... but I've seen the results and they are gruesome.
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #12 on: October 31, 2009, 12:42:04 am »
    Quote from: GeorgeHill on October 31, 2009, 12:36:22 am
    I know a fellow local here that simply cuts the tips off the bullets... the results are bigger wound channels.  That's one simple way.  Dremmel with a cutoff wheel.  He cuts off about a 3/16ths off the front, then cuts an X. Done.  I've never given it much thought and I've not tried it... but I've seen the results and they are gruesome.

    You've got to be careful doing that. FMJ bullets are generally open at the base and cutting the nose off can lead to blowing the core out and leaving the jacket stuck in the bore. The next shot could be exciting.  :o
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #13 on: October 31, 2009, 01:21:51 am »
    I'm not saying I'd try it. 
    Steel core rounds are what he's using I believe.
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    Re: Article on improving the terminal performance of 7.62x39mm ammunition, on the cheap
    « Reply #14 on: October 31, 2009, 01:36:36 am »
    I figured you wouldn't be one to try it, but I'd hate to have someone else start experimenting with it without understanding the risk.
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