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Handguns / Re: Snubby
« Last post by cpaspr on July 06, 2021, 03:29:43 pm »
C -

A good synopsis and practice plan.

My LCR-357 is double-action only, but I will occasionally use it when shooting at bowling pins at 15 yards (not competition, just fun).  For me at least, at that range, clearing four pins with 4-5 shots is not beyond the realm of possibility.

Now any other snubby?  Mostly ignorant.  A friend had an S&W Bodyguard in .38 Special, and that thing with just practice ammo was brutal.  I'd rather shoot my LCR with full power .357 158gr SD ammo (which, while doable, ain't fun) that that thing with just practice ammo.
General Firearms Discussion / Re: I'm back, like a bad penny!
« Last post by sqlbullet on July 06, 2021, 12:11:14 pm »
Welcome back!

I bought a car about three years ago from your old store-front building in Draper. 
General Firearms Discussion / Re: I'm back, like a bad penny!
« Last post by FBMG on July 06, 2021, 11:49:25 am »
LOL, sure, but we prefer blood diamonds if it is coming from Africa.
Handguns / Re: Snubby
« Last post by coelacanth on July 05, 2021, 04:48:19 pm »
Well, in my experience, a short barreled revolver with a small concealable grip is not inherently less accurate than a target revolver assuming both are made to the same tolerances.  In actual shooting they give up some ground to the target revolver in terms of range day accuracy because of the shorter sight radius, lighter weight, heavier trigger and a grip designed for concealability rather than controllability. 

In short, its not easy to shoot tiny groups with such a revolver because they were never designed for that to begin with.  What they were designed to do was give reliable protection at close range from a pocket sized revolver.  The fact that they are still in production indicates to me they design was/is a successful one. 

To operate such a gun in the role it was designed for start at close range.  Use standard pressure .38 special ammunition and fire at a common business card pasted to a target board at 3 yards.  This is to make certain you and the gun agree where it is actually pointed when the hammer falls on the primer.  Adjustments to grip, stance and sight alignment will probably be necessary to achieve the desired result but at that range all your shots should fall in a group you could cover with a 3" x 5" index card.  If that isn't happening you and the gun are still getting acquainted and haven't figured out how to work together yet. 
Dry fire drills with snap caps around the house is good practice.  Slow fire drills where you pull the trigger from at rest to fully fired position allow you to see what motion happens when you run the double action stroke.  The faster you go, the more exaggerated the motion will become but the key is to watch the sight alignment and see how it relates to your original point of aim.  Standing, sitting, kneeling, walking, supported, un-supported - all these can be practiced as dry fire drills and should be.  You won't be able to replicate the recoil impulse of firing live ammunition but the practice is good for muscle memory and understanding how best to carry and deploy the gun. 

The idea is to get to the point where you can draw and fire three rounds on target in three seconds at three yards - keeping your shots where you want them to be.  Moving back to five yards puts you in a spot where sight alignment and trigger control become more critical to getting the rounds on target but it can be done with practice.  The same goes for moving back to seven yards.  At that point you are probably nearing the practical limit of how far a snubbie can be used effectively by most folks. 

Way back when ammunition was cheap and plentiful we would occasionally set up steel out at fifty yards and see who could hit a 12"x14" plate with a snubbie at that distance.  Out of a cylinder full most of us would only connect with two or three, slow fired, single action, standing.  A friend who was a real virtuoso with a model 10 2" barrel would routinely embarrass us by hitting four or five out of his six but the bigger frame and extra weight really helped at that game.  At seven yards he could run a pair of back to back Mozambique drills and then reload in about twelve seconds and his rounds were all on target.   :shocked

If you can routinely put five rounds on a 5"x7" index card at seven yards, double action, in five seconds you are a better shot than most who carry such guns.  I hope you enjoy the challenge of live fire with your new arrival.  They are difficult to master but ultimately worth the effort IMO. 
Handguns / Snubby
« Last post by Mikee5star on July 04, 2021, 11:22:06 pm »
I acquired my first snubby this freedom weekend.  I bought a S&W model 38 this Friday after work from a co-worker who wanted some extra cash for the Holiday weekend.   I basically bought it sight unseen to keep it from going to the local Rip Off Pawn Shop.  I have not shot it yet, but I really like the handling on this little gem.  What kind of accuracy can I expect?
General Non-Firearms Discussion / Re: 245 years . . .
« Last post by NukMed on July 04, 2021, 10:15:53 pm »
Long live the rebellion!!  :clap :thumbup1
General Non-Firearms Discussion / 245 years . . .
« Last post by coelacanth on July 04, 2021, 04:01:29 pm »
Wishing you all a very happy Independence Day.   
General Firearms Discussion / Re: I'm back, like a bad penny!
« Last post by Grognard on July 04, 2021, 12:54:41 pm »
I'll take two.  Leave the weapons mounted, I'll get my own ammo.  :p
You accept Congolese billion dollar bank draft,yes?Otherwise, I need a loan from that Nigerian prince. ;)
R & R / Re: The Great Big Thread of Jokes
« Last post by coelacanth on July 03, 2021, 04:33:33 pm »
R & R / Re: The Great Big Thread of Jokes
« Last post by Stevie-Ray on July 03, 2021, 12:44:27 pm »
Three bulls hear the rancher is bringing another bull onto the ranch, and will most likely be reassigning cows to each one.

The first bull says to the others, “I’ve been here five years. I’m not giving this new bull any of my 100 cows.”

“I’ve been here three years,” says the second bull, “and have earned my right to 50 cows. I’m keeping all my cows.”

“I’ve only been here a year,” the third bull says, “and so far, you guys have only let me have ten cows. I may not be as big as you fellows, but I’m keeping all 10 of my cows.”

Just then, an 18-wheeler pulls up in the pasture carrying the biggest bull they’ve ever seen. At 4,700 pounds, each step he takes strains the steel ramp.

Terrified, the bulls immediately change tack. “I think I can spare a few cows for our new friend,” the first bull offers.

“I actually have too many cows to take care of. I can spare a few. I’m certainly not looking for an argument,” the second says.

They look over at the third bull and find him pawing the dirt, shaking his horns and snorting.

“Son, don’t be foolish, let him have some of your cows and live to tell the tale,” the first bull urges.

“Hell, he can have all my cows, the third bull responds. I’m just making sure he knows I’m a bull.”
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