Author Topic: Your "John Wick" loadout (Read 28602 times)

sarge712 · « **on:** February 09, 2015, 12:21:45 am »

You are John Wick, a retired mob assassin. You are yanked out of retirement on a hunt for the Russian mobster's son who beat you, stole your '69 Mustang and, most egregiously, killed your sweet puppy left to you by your deceased wife. You are hunting him inside a multi-level nightclub full of Russian security tasked to protect the son.

What is your loadout based on the following rules to stay within the realm of the inside?:

1) You must wear a suit, tie and dress shoes. No 5.11 khaki daddy crap.
2) No explosives to avoid as much collateral damage as possible.
3) No long guns that you cant conceal under your suitcoat (unless it's a battlefield pickup once inside)
4) You are alone. No back-up

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Harm · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2015, 12:30:04 am »

As its up close and ugly multi layers armor. Soft armor. Something flexible.

I'm gonna say some kind of suppressed full auto smg. HK MP5, Krink or other shorty. 45acp would be 'better' in the sense of big bullets getting quieter without focusing on sub sonics, but I'm not aware of a suit coat hideable 45 variant.

I'd go with my HK P30 9mm with +5 mag extensions and I'd go with the L model for longer sight radius.

Some sharp pointy bits, likely a Karambit like a Spyderco Matriarch.

One item I think would have been useful would be smoke grenades & a gas mask.

sarge712 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2015, 12:49:26 am »

* Glock 21 with light and 8 spare mags (4 up front and 4 toward the back to make a space for my kukri)
* SP101 .357 magnum in the small of my back just as he carried a snubbie,
* 10" kukri tucked in my belt on the left side between the two runs of màgs.
* pair of black Oakley "knuckle" gloves
* some stylish eye pro that could pass for perscription specs.
* Cold Steel Safekeeper just behind my G21 holster.
* I'd carry in an XL attache' case with a KSG and a bandoleer of shells inside it to don once I slipped inside. Id use the KSG first until it ran out or I lost it in the fight.
* IFAK crammed in my suitcoat pockets.
* Cold Steel Rajah II folder in my right front pocket. Yes, it'll fit. And come out quick & smooth
* Black highly polished Double H steel toe cowboy boots with nonskid soles. Love 'em. My dress shoes
* Safariland heavy black dress belt with internal stiffener to carry the mag and knife load.
* Level IIIa ballistic vest with trauma plate
* Surefire light

Raptor · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2015, 12:51:52 am »

Definitely some kind of concealable body armor. Possibly augmented with trauma plates if I'm expecting to take rifle-caliber fire.

Primary would be an MP5K-PDW variant, suppressed, worn under the suit jacket on a shoulder harness. 15-round mag loaded in the gun, with two more thirty-rounders in the harness. Stoked with Federal 9BPLE +P+ ammo.

Sidearm would be a CZ-75B that's been worked over by CZ Custom or Cajun Gun Works, with as many mags as I can fit on my belt. 17-round Mec-Gar mag in the gun to start, 19-rounders in the belt pouches. Like the MP5K, stoked with 9BPLEs

Backup, Walther PPS 9mm carried in an ankle rig. 6 round mag in the gun, 8-round spare in my left front pocket. Stoked with Hornady Critical Defense.

Blade: some sort of folding karambit in my right front pocket.

Kaso · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2015, 01:01:44 am »

It seems that stealth and precision would beat the crap out of going up against the Russians in a gun fight. That, and the nightclub is in use, no? No sense making extra noise...

Since the assassin in the scenario is retired, and has a deceased wife, I am going to guess he is at a youngest, late 50s. Old school. A suppressed BHP in a custom vertical shoulder rig. On the weak side of the rig, a holster for an 8" barreled sawed off double barrel shotgun. Extra mags for the BHP on the belt, and a few extra shells in the suit coat pockets. The sawed off would only be employed when avoiding a gunfight is no longer possible.

I can personally attest that a suppressed BHP with 147gr ammo is very quiet. Much quieter than a suppressed Sig. In a crowded night club, even firing it in a crowd might go unnoticed.

For close in work, a pocket-sized sap.

Kaso

Plebian · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2015, 01:16:35 am »

Fellow has to leave the club sometime. It will likely be in some armored vehicle OR at bare minimum a pretty good sized vehicle. IF you are an ex-hitman you know people are creatures of habit. You bide your time at a good ambush place along the route he travels.

RPG-7

IF you head into the club as an 'old guy' when they are looking for an older hitman. You are as good as dead if his security is even half-trained monkeys. IF you are 50 or so. You are not gonna pass to get into the club. You will not even pass to slip in as someone working at the club.

sarge712 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2015, 01:47:16 am »

Good point about age but it's irrelevant here. While Reeves is actually 50 yrs old, he appears to be late 30's to me. In the flick he got inside via a private side entrance reserved for the Russians by holding a gun to the guards head (he knew him from his past life and spared him

- there's a cool honor code theme throughout the movie)

Kaso · « **Reply #7 on:** February 09, 2015, 01:52:25 am »

Wait... This is based off of a movie? Which one? I thought it was a mental exercise.

Kaso

jamisjockey · « **Reply #8 on:** February 09, 2015, 03:58:58 am »

Quote from: Kaso on February 09, 2015, 01:52:25 am

Wait... This is based off of a movie? Which one? I thought it was a mental exercise.

Kaso

John Wick. Its a recent release, available for rental now. I personally just watched it today (yesterday I guess at this point), it's good. Action fun flick with kind of a Ronin feel. Lots of slick gun handling and gun fu that's not stupid over the top bulls___.

jamisjockey · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2015, 04:14:24 am »

body armor of course.

I'm really partial to my M&P 45. I shoot it very well, so I'd have to go with the full size version. Screw on suppressor and clip on light.
About like this

Suppressor would probably need to be detached but if you have time to screw it on before you start shooting I think it'd be worth it. The quiet shots would add to the confusion for the defenders as well as protecting your hearing.

Backups:
Airweight S&W in ankle holster
Shield 9mm crossdraw weakside or SOB.
Fixed blade knife on the weak side wrist, under the coat sleeve
pocket folder
strong side ankle, another knife

If you can get away with a long coat or trench.....a pdw on a shoulder sling.

luke213(adamsholsters) · « **Reply #10 on:** February 09, 2015, 12:19:06 pm »

Well keep in mind the gear would be custom since I would pretty much build things to fit the need;)

A PDW or something of the sort would be nice, certainly better than a handgun for allot of things but I don't know that it would be worth it for the real estate it would take up. I think I would take a P14 style double stack 1911 and I'd probably build a double setup mag carrier something IWB and OWB basically stacking 2 mags per position which should bring the overall bulk to a level that is fairly concealable. I'm thinking I'd try and run at least 8 mags but that would be a serious stretch for concealing. It would give me 118 rounds of 45acp which is still likely not enough. Could put another 4ish on the strong side but they would be hard to get to but that would get me to 170 rounds. High and very tight upside down shoulder rig for another double stack 1911 with short suppressor but in short officers length frame that could use the same mags, horizontal tension based mag carrier weak side, likely 3 mags to still clear the belt mags 223 rounds at that point. Since ankles are still open I'd build some sort of ankle rig for more ammo, could probably manage 4 mags per ankle fairly well again not terribly accessible but it would work.

That all said you couldn't loose the weight your going to be a tank at that point I didn't do the math but that's a hell of allot of ammo and as such weight you'd be slow but based on the number of guys he encounters and not running a full compliment of long gun and mag pouches I don't see any other way to do it;)

Luke

RevDisk · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2015, 01:15:57 pm »

Here's the scene I think we're talking about.

Real world? Well, if you were going subtle. The most suppressed weapon I could get that would reliably kill someone. To be dropped once discovered. Then a M4 or SAW, with a metric excrement load of grenades on my vest. Preferably sting grenades, flashbangs, smoke and CS. The bath house level was all glass and tile. Toss a flashbang and a sting grenade into the middle of the room, you'd probably be able to kill everyone in the room before they'd be coherent enough to tell up from down. Anyone not wearing shoes would be in for a very short but bad day. Or more preferably, set the building on fire and shoot the target with a long rifle of sufficient power.

If we were sticking to the movie honorable hit man thing... Exactly what he did in the movies. Fixed blade knife, couple 9mm pistols and a dozen plus mags would be best. Rifles, shotguns or SMGs mean over-penetration and projectiles missing targets. Kukri or machete is going to make too much noise and mess, plus lack in precision. You'd want to stick with 9mm and probably hollowpoints.

Grant · « **Reply #12 on:** February 09, 2015, 01:36:12 pm »

9mm all the way, watching that clip I'd say we would want capacity as much/more than anything.

Sig 226 strongside with 8X18 round reloads, with a Sig 224 weak side as backup since it takes the same magazines. Smaller folder or fixed blade, nothing huge/big like a Kukri or Hatchet. Possibly a snubnose in right front pocket since my backup 224 would be for drawing weak-hand.

RevDisk · « **Reply #13 on:** February 09, 2015, 01:41:35 pm »

Pondering it a bit. I own a couple CZ-BRNO RV-85. Sold as flare launchers, they were originally developed for the Czech to fire wall penetrating CS rockets. Because that's how Eastern Europeans conducts hostage negotiations. Bad guys take hostage? Ah, time to fire rockets through the walls, Tovarishch!

It'd be relatively trivial to rig incendiary rounds. Air burst or contact, actually. RV-85 has rifle sights. Rifle primer to set off model rocket engine, firewall between rocket engine and incendiary material, metal pin running down the center from the nose of the rocket to the firewall. Lightly coat the pin with some gunpowder and epoxy, your incendiary material is definitely spreading. Any high school metal shop could crack out a couple dozen projectiles in about two hours. Easier for airburst, replace the pin with a fuse.

For rifle, I'd think .338 or .50 BMG would be overkill but good enough to take out the engine block. Never know, you might need to ballistically root around in a car a bit. Don't want to have to lead the target on top of all that. Hell, could use incendiary rounds to take out the car, if you don't like the occupants too much. Assassination via contact fused API rocket would definitely raise a few eyebrows.

Uhm. I should probably stop talking now...

coyotesfan97 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 09, 2015, 04:07:47 pm »

Are these the boots Sarge? http://www.doublehboots.com/Product?stockNo=2307

My load out :
IIIA soft body armor with trauma plate
Glock 17 in a shoulder holster with mag pouches. (2) Threaded barrel for suppression if needed
Glock 19 in a IWB on my right hip (17 round mag)
Glock 26 in an ankle holster.
2 2X mag pouches on my belt
Becker BK2 on belt
ZT350 pocket clip
2 17 round mags loose in each suit pocket
small med pouch with some combat gauze.
Mags loaded with Speer Gold Dots 124 grains +P

If I can carry a briefcase I'd bring a suppressed MP5 PDW 15 round mag in it. 4 30 round mags with mag clamps to reload

GeorgeHill · « **Reply #15 on:** February 09, 2015, 08:09:32 pm »

Walther PPQ's. 5" models. Two of them. Shoulder rig.
The knife would be an Emerson.

MTK20 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2015, 12:55:08 am »

This will take some thinking, but I want to be as realistic about the real estate on my person as possible. I have yet to see the movie, so I'm not sure what I'm in for in this fight, but as long as I use up all the space on my suit I should be ok.

I would love to have a krinkov, but I doubt I could do that.

Here goes: double shoulder holster. TRR8 under left arm (it's true, I love revolvers and I would seriously consider this an option. If there are just too many guys replace this with a Glock 17). Under my right arm will be an officers model 1911 with a suppressor. On my hip will be a Glock 19. Right slack pocket contains speed loaders for revolver and left slack pocket contains Glock 17 magazines. I have a few 1911 magazines in my back pockets and that's it. Slipped in my waist band will be a cold steel 6 inch Ti-Lite. Every other available pocket will have Glock 17 magazines in it. I may also have an airweight j frame riding on my ankle. I think I would also like to have one or two long plastic zip ties pre-looped, and folded in a pocket.

Goals: I want to be stealthy. I intend on using nothing more than my suppressed 1911 and Ti-Lite to get this one important target. Thinking about it realistically, if I do my job right I will not need many 1911 mags, hence why I am only carrying what can fill my back pockets. I am pretty sure that there will be a guy or two between my target and my hopes is to stealthily use my stiletto. Seeing as I am not a big guy and this will be a hands on approach, this is where my zip ties come into play. I figure to employ a blade anyways, I'm going to have to catch them unaware, so I'll slip the big loop of a tie over the head and around the neck , give a yank and then work on them with the stiletto. I figure it's easier to fight an opponent if I have them unaware, me with a blade in hand, and them fighting with screaming carotid arteries. Not trying to be too brutal, but I need every advantage I can get. Hopefully I reach said target and deliver my .45 acp pay load and can get the heck out of there. If not this is where things get messy. I use my N frame and Glock 19. A bullet proof vest is definitely coming with me on this mission.

booksmart · « **Reply #17 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:55:10 am »

Realistically? A small block of C4 taped to the gas tank of the car he stole from me, wired to the ignition.

Movie land? What I own: my 92A1 with every mag I own loaded with Hornady Critical Duty, with the Kahr K9 as backup. For knives, the Camillus rigged for offhand draw, with the Kershaw strapped to my left forearm under the sleeve. Body armor, as previously mentioned, too.

seanp · « **Reply #18 on:** February 10, 2015, 01:01:52 pm »

Cocaine.

Handgun.

Bullets.

MTK20 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 10, 2015, 02:02:22 pm »

Quote from: seanp on February 10, 2015, 01:01:52 pm

Cocaine.

Handgun.

Bullets.

Ah, going "Scarface" light, I see

.

seanp · « **Reply #20 on:** February 10, 2015, 02:23:03 pm »

It's just how I roll...

Frankenslayer44 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 10, 2015, 08:44:27 pm »

If I can pull off carrying a subgun a mp5k or sig mpx-k. Spare mags in custom sewn pouches in front pockets. I'm thinking four should fit pretty handy.
Sig p226 elite dark with threaded barrel carried strong side. 8 spare 18 round mags carried in two four mag carriers on left side. Front carrier may go away to make room for more subgun mags if I'm carrying one.
Sig p224 carried somewhere near small of back.
Becker bk15 with custom tanto point carried between mag carriers.
Emerson super commander clipped in right front pocket
Silencerco osprey carried in inside coat pocket
The prerequisite concealable body armor.
And lastly a garrote (sp?) carried in a pocket somewhere

schapm · « **Reply #22 on:** February 10, 2015, 11:42:47 pm »

I would go with 9mm Glocks and a Serbu Super Shorty. In an Andrews Firepower Rig I would carry a G17 and the shotgun. On my belt would be another G17, a large fixed blade knife, and as many Glock mags as I can fit. Clipped to my left front pocket would be a Surefire flashlight, and in my right front pocket would be a G26. On my left ankle would be a G26, and my right ankle would be home to a boot knife and a couple of Glock mags. All my Glock mags would be the 17 rounders with +2 extensions, and my G17s would both wear Streamlight TLR-1 lights, mainly as a standoff device for contact shots, but also for the light, if needed.

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Doug Wojtowicz · « **Reply #23 on:** February 11, 2015, 03:22:31 pm »

Hmm. I'm pretty much going to go with my Peter Leskow loadout.

Beretta PM12 S2 (16.5 inches long with folded stock under right armpit in under-jacket rig. Twenty round magazine in well for concealment purposes.) At 550 rounds per minute, no need for burst limiters to dish two or three per target with stock to shoulder. 40 round boxes feeding when things get hectic. If necessary, the M12 family has a muzzle launched grenade option, though, if in your suit, you're NOT concealing a couple of those grenades. (Keep 'em in the car for ensuing chase scene though.)

Petra - Peter's Beretta 92G (no rail, nor Brigadier slide) with OEM 17-round Beretta magazine with OEM 20-rounders for reloads. Meprolight night sights, BAR-Sto barrel, carried in a Milt Sparks Summer Special behind left hip. The 20-rounders are in two Spier Offside rigs.

Lady - Backup to Petra. Decock-only converted Smith and Wesson Model 3914 NL with ambidextrous decocker.

(Yeah... I should maybe update Pete's stuff... but then, John Wick had his time capsule of organasatya murder buried in concrete.)

JesseL · « **Reply #24 on:** February 11, 2015, 03:41:23 pm »

Body paint.
Chainsaw.

When the odds are impossible, count on crazy.