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Re: WTA's Alcohol Thread
« Reply #1075 on: February 10, 2019, 11:29:46 am »
:thumbup1Are they producing the whole mash bill and barrel aging it too or are they just supplying part of it to someone else? 
bulleit bourbon and rye is a standard MGP mash bill with minor modifications, to my knowledge they distill it and barrel it, then ship it to a bulleit rickhouse where it's aged, cut and bottled. several of my favorite bourbons and all of my favorite ryes are MGP products.
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    « Reply #1076 on: February 10, 2019, 03:26:22 pm »
    Agreed. They do a pretty respectable job and have for years.  They went through a rough patch financially during the last big recession but they've come out of it and emerged as a major supplier to all sorts of folks who like to think they are "whiskey producers".    :coffee
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    « Reply #1077 on: February 11, 2019, 04:09:02 pm »
    For those with a fancy for Islay single malts, do try Ardbeg.  It may be a little more than a comparable Laphroaig, but there is some balance going on there in addition to that heavy hit of smoke, brine and iodine.   Start with the 10.  It's on the rough side, like other 10 year heavily peated Islays, but different. But I've come to absolutely love the Uigeadail.   Very complex, a sweetness sneaks in.  It is a bit spendy, but it's sippin' whisky that you savor.  Not something for every day.

    On the Speyside malts, I've stumbled on a 15 year Glen Moray that is surprisingly well-rounded.  This is the first time I've seen anything from that distillery in our local market.   All that Speyside has to offer in abundance.  Just the right amount of sherry aging, not so overdone as some in nearby distilleries further upstream on the Spey can sometimes be.   (MaCallan, Aberlour, Glenfarclas).

    Finally, on a different note, I've not been much of a fan of rums in general.  Mostly for the wife's mixed drinks and for holiday egg nog (ugh).  But, last year I went on a trip to Haiti in connection with faith-based medical charity I support.  While there, I learned of the difference between rum and rhum.  The latter is derived from pure cane juice rather than molasses as is "rum." Rhum has a distinctly different character and when permitted to age a bit is very nice.  Surprisingly so.

    I picked up a bottle of 15 year Barbancourt while there.  It is available in the US.  As one pretty much acclimated to single malts, I found that this is, indeed, very nice to drink straight with a splash of water, brandy style, after dinner.  This is not something to waste in a mixed drink. 

    Lesson:  be open to experimentation.  I didn't know what rhum was.   Now, I plan to have some older aged rhum on hand.     
    « Last Edit: February 11, 2019, 04:20:28 pm by Mississippi556 »
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    « Reply #1078 on: February 11, 2019, 04:57:21 pm »
    I haven't seen a bottle of Glen Moray in a long time.  An independent store here carried it years ago because the owner was a fan and he basically strong-armed the distributor rep into it to get his business.  I seem to recall it was a twelve year old but very nice.  I'll have to look for it again.  As you say Ardbeg is pretty classy stuff - I just can't buy it for anywhere near the price I get Laphroaig 10 year old for.  About the best I can do is $15 a bottle higher and I just don;t think its enough better to justify it in my opinion.   YMMV.   :shrug

    I've never been a big fan of sherry cask aging.  As pointed out, some are less objectionable than others but I've given up on the whole idea at this point.  If I want to enjoy the taste of sherry I'll pick up a bottle of Lustau's Don Nuno Dry Dark Oloroso and be done with it.  Even an inexpensive Fino is a nice aperitif or an Amontillado if you prefer but I like my Scotch whisky without the taint of an old worn out sherry butt.   

    I'm glad you've discovered some of the more nuanced expressions of rum, or "rhum agricole" as they say in the islands.  A nice, aged rum is one of my go to liquors for year 'round consumption.  Its definitely worth getting to know some of the ones that qualify as sippin' whiskey"  :cool.
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    « Reply #1079 on: February 11, 2019, 05:15:33 pm »
    I prefer my Amontillado by the cask...

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    « Reply #1080 on: February 11, 2019, 05:24:42 pm »
    I prefer my Amontillado by the cask...

    The cask of amantillado! Just be careful in those tunnels!  :cool
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    « Reply #1081 on: February 11, 2019, 06:48:25 pm »
    I prefer my Amontillado by the cask...
    Would you like a drinking straw with that sir?   :coffee
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    « Reply #1082 on: February 11, 2019, 06:49:07 pm »
    The cask of amantillado! Just be careful in those tunnels!  :cool
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    « Reply #1083 on: February 12, 2019, 12:56:55 pm »
    Oh, be still my telltale heart .  .  .   :whistle
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    « Reply #1084 on: February 12, 2019, 04:18:31 pm »
    You guys are telling some really poe jokes.
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    « Reply #1085 on: February 12, 2019, 04:27:40 pm »
    Would you like a drinking straw with that sir?   :coffee

    But, wait . . . drinking straws are destroying the planet.  Not the Chinese industries, not the Indian industries.  American drinking straws.  Shame on you, sir, for even suggesting such a vile thing!
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    « Reply #1086 on: February 12, 2019, 07:29:04 pm »
    Its a recycled straw.  Wanna' know what it was before that?    :cool
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    « Reply #1087 on: February 12, 2019, 07:36:27 pm »
    Its a recycled straw.  Wanna' know what it was before that?    :cool

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    « Reply #1088 on: February 12, 2019, 07:53:29 pm »
    "I'll take THINGS I WISH I DIDN'T KNOW for $600, Alex."    :whistle
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    « Reply #1089 on: February 12, 2019, 09:18:28 pm »
    "I'll take THINGS I WISH I DIDN'T KNOW for $600, Alex."    :whistle
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    « Reply #1090 on: February 13, 2019, 05:29:26 pm »
    You've been looking though HRC's OB/GYN's photo-journal? :confused

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    « Reply #1091 on: February 14, 2019, 07:28:38 am »
    You've been looking though HRC's OB/GYN's photo-journal? :confused

    I remember when I was a brand new 2LT, attending the Benning School for Boys.  They gave us the obligatory lecture on STDs.  Which included a bunch of full color close ups of diseased coochies, which belonged to female inhabitants of Columbus, GA.

    And of course this lecture was the last one on a Friday afternoon.

    Plenty of just hanging and the O-club drinking with our classmates that weekend.
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    « Reply #1092 on: February 14, 2019, 04:37:07 pm »
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    « Reply #1093 on: November 14, 2021, 03:00:48 pm »
    I have been picking restaurants based on Scotch menus lately and have enjoyed several excellent speysides lately.  I went to liquor warehouse while in the big city and was so overwhelmed by choices, despite have a short list in my head, that I walked out empty handed.  They did not have what I was looking for, Tallisker Storm, and what they did have seamed really expensive.  Imagine my delight when at Costco looking for the Laphroaig 10 year, they had a Kirkland Speyside 24 year for just under $70.  Counterman said it was the best Scotch he had ever tried.
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    « Reply #1094 on: November 15, 2021, 06:03:01 pm »
    Yes, COSTCO definitely urinated in my breakfast cereal when they quit carry carrying Laphroaig.   >:(   There are a couple of places in Phoenix that have entire walls of expensive liquor behind the bar.  Sometimes I just go in to stand and gawk like a kid at Disneyland.   :cool   Drink prices in these places flirt with the stratosphere but in today's market it is better to have paid for a glass of whisky you don't care for than an entire bottle so they remain useful.

    Lagavulin and Caol Isla - both 16 year old - are very nice if you prefer the Islay style.  It is my favorite if money is no object.  I favor the Balvenie distillery products and have found their 12 year olds to be the best of that age I've ever tasted.  Their 12 y.o. Single Barrel is excellent.  The Double Wood has the sherry cask finish if you favor it.  Their sister distillery, Glenfiddich, makes a nice, lightly peated ( and easily found ) scotch IMO.   Oban is better but good luck finding it these days.

    I'd be interested to hear what you think of the Kirkland Speyside. 
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    « Reply #1095 on: November 15, 2021, 10:46:07 pm »
    Lagavulin 16 is my current bottle.  It is top shelf for sure.  Laphroaig was at my Costco last week.  I know that means nothing as Costco is hit or miss on what they have on the shelf day to day.  My fall back bottle was cask strength distillers select Oban, but it was pushing $150.  My  Safeway liquor store usually has Oban 16 for about $100.  I usually drink about one bottle a year so I do tend to splurge a bit. 

    Wife and I went out of town overnight for our anniversary, I think it was Balvenie that was the highlight of that dinner.  That restaurant had great prices for single malt.  I think I had three or four different doubles that night and none was over $20.  The restaurant last week was more expensive but I tried to keep them under $20 a drink.  I did find that their scotch menu was well organized and informative.  I learned that I am not a fan of Highland scotches, or the Channel island scotch I tried.
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    « Reply #1096 on: November 17, 2021, 11:43:35 am »
    Yes, the regional styles and the various styles that distillers favor can be extensive.  And expensive to explore these days.  Unfortunately there has been a lot of consolidation and buyouts in the industry over the last decade or so and the landscape looks nothing like it did even twenty years past.   When accountants and lawyers get hold of a business ( or an entire industry ) it generally means the end of an era and sometimes the list of casualties is bigger than the list of survivors.  Highland Park is a good example but there are many others. 

    I'll be happy if I can find a decent single malt of any style for less than $50.00 a bottle over the next few years.   :facepalm
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