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MAC/V SOG Bowie
« on: February 12, 2018, 10:10:55 pm »
For the last few years I have gotten more into the mid-tech and semi-production range of knife fandom. Among my favorite makers of these style knives is Bark River Knives of Escanaba Michigan. The Escanaba area, famous for being the home of the original Marble's knife company, has become the home of so many knife makers today that it is starting to be referred to as New Sheffield, akin to the region in England famous for producing Bowie and sporting knives in the nineteenth century.

I've got a bunch of Bark Rivers now, but my newest is also one that I've been excited about grabbing since it was first released last year.

Matt and Jenna Martin of Vehement Knives (fresh to the New Sheffield area) and Mike and Jim Stewart of Bark River teamed up to create the first American made version of the Vietnam-era CISO knife, usually known as the MAC/V SOG knife. Both companies are run by people who have a thing for vintage military and sporting knives and man, they hit the ball out of the park with this design. 

The 6 1/4" blade is made from Crucible CPM-3V tool steel, which is orders of magnitude tougher than 1095 (one of my favorite common steels) and holds its edge for a good long while. Mine came with an antique ivory micarta handle, and the guard and pommel are brass, with the full length tang secured by a nut on the bottom of the pommel. The sheath, designed by Jenna Martin, is black leather, ambidextrous, and made for either MOLLE webbing or belt carry, with a reversible retention snap.

This is a really nice blade. It is certainly going to be one of my go-to bush knives, and I wouldn't be worried about having it in a fight either. Like the original CISO knife designed by Ben Baker, this one is designed to help men get through the hard times. Not having owned a SOG-style knife before, I can really see the appeal. It's a unique and attractive style, and when done by the crew at Bark River, is an awesome thing to own.

https://www.sogknives.com/productattachments/index/download?id=19  for a little history on this knife from the designer.






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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 02:19:27 am »
     :thumbup1  I like several of the Bark River designs. 
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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 09:00:25 am »
    Your pics aren't showing, for some reason...

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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 11:31:12 am »
    Ne'ermind, I google-fu'd it. Nice lookin'.

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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #4 on: February 13, 2018, 03:01:41 pm »
    Pics show for me. Hmmm...I'll have to figure it out.

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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #5 on: February 13, 2018, 08:06:51 pm »
    This is what I get.

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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #6 on: February 13, 2018, 09:43:23 pm »
    What app is that?
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #7 on: February 14, 2018, 11:44:36 am »
    Desert Rat, they show for you because they are your google pics.  Your browser has an authenticated session.

    I have had this issue sharing directory from google photos via a link, but don't remember how I fixed it.
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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #8 on: February 14, 2018, 12:17:22 pm »
    What app is that?
    Tapatalk set to night mode.
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    « Reply #9 on: February 14, 2018, 12:50:18 pm »
    Tapatalk set to night mode.

    Thanks. I used tapatalk once a very long time ago, but I didn't like it. I had forgotten what it's interface looked like.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #10 on: February 14, 2018, 01:16:10 pm »
    I use it for all of my forums. I won’t join a forum that doesn’t support it.
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    « Reply #11 on: February 15, 2018, 08:30:46 am »
    You had me at Bowie.
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    « Reply #12 on: February 15, 2018, 08:56:02 am »

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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #13 on: February 16, 2018, 07:32:55 pm »
    Ever since Photobucket pulled its shenanigans, I can't do pics. One more time before I throw up my hands in disgust.

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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #14 on: February 16, 2018, 07:34:01 pm »
    Oh, wow!

    :drool
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #15 on: February 16, 2018, 07:40:04 pm »
    Oh, wow!

    :drool

    Hey, it worked!  :thumbup1

    And thanks. I love it, too. BRK and Vehement do some great work.

    Also, today I got something else in the mail from a guy in Ireland. But I can't get any good pics this time of night, so that'll have to wait until tomorrow. It's Bowie-licious. :D

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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #16 on: February 16, 2018, 07:50:45 pm »
    Who all makes the SOG pattern of bowie?
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #17 on: February 16, 2018, 08:02:55 pm »
    For this knife?

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    « Reply #18 on: February 16, 2018, 08:57:10 pm »
    For this knife?

    No. Who makes any MACV/SOG knife.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #19 on: February 16, 2018, 10:04:26 pm »
    That is a very pretty knife.
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    « Reply #20 on: February 16, 2018, 10:06:26 pm »
    Ah. MTK20, SOG Knives still makes a few versions of the SOG knife, although they are no longer made in Seki City, Japan, but rather Taiwan, and are a tad over-priced for the steel you're getting, IMO. They aren't as bad as all that, and they are pretty cool knives, but not as nice as they used to be. If you can find one of the old model pre-2008 SOG's, they are pretty sweet. I passed up more than a few back in the '90's, and wish I hadn't. The glory days of SOG Knives are gone forever.

    Cold Steel made a version of the SOG knife for awhile, the UWK, more than a decade ago, but they are hard to find these days.

    I literally just stumbled across a Greg Wall custom on my FB feed. He makes some gorgeous knives in the Randall style, mostly, and does some others here and there. His sheaths are nice as well. 
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/122972124249

    Other than that, there are no others I'm aware of. The Bark River version is the first American-made production SOG, and are made from premium materials. Matt Martin just finished the other version of the old Vietnam-era SOG knife, The Recondo, a day after I posted in the OP. This new model is going to mirror the fighting knife they made for one of the SOG groups that wanted a longer blade for more efficient killing. The original was patterned off of one of my favorite Randall patterns, the Model 3-7 Fighter, only with the classic SOG handle and hardware. Here's a pic of the CAD design for it. I'm a sucker this particular pattern of blade. 

    Bark River Recondo

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    « Reply #21 on: February 16, 2018, 10:12:23 pm »
    That is a very pretty knife.


    Yes sir! Something about the antique ivory micarta I just love. Pity it's no longer being made. I also have a BRK Adventurer II in AIM and 20CV steel, and it's one of my favorite EDCs. You just can't get any classier. :thumbup1

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    « Reply #22 on: February 17, 2018, 12:01:58 am »
    Ah. MTK20, SOG Knives still makes a few versions of the SOG knife, although they are no longer made in Seki City, Japan, but rather Taiwan, and are a tad over-priced for the steel you're getting, IMO. They aren't as bad as all that, and they are pretty cool knives, but not as nice as they used to be. If you can find one of the old model pre-2008 SOG's, they are pretty sweet. I passed up more than a few back in the '90's, and wish I hadn't. The glory days of SOG Knives are gone forever.

    Cold Steel made a version of the SOG knife for awhile, the UWK, more than a decade ago, but they are hard to find these days.

    I literally just stumbled across a Greg Wall custom on my FB feed. He makes some gorgeous knives in the Randall style, mostly, and does some others here and there. His sheaths are nice as well. 
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/122972124249

    Other than that, there are no others I'm aware of. The Bark River version is the first American-made production SOG, and are made from premium materials. Matt Martin just finished the other version of the old Vietnam-era SOG knife, The Recondo, a day after I posted in the OP. This new model is going to mirror the fighting knife they made for one of the SOG groups that wanted a longer blade for more efficient killing. The original was patterned off of one of my favorite Randall patterns, the Model 3-7 Fighter, only with the classic SOG handle and hardware. Here's a pic of the CAD design for it. I'm a sucker this particular pattern of blade. 

    Bark River Recondo

    Thanks for the info!  :thumbup1

    I wonder how many of these were truly used in combat? I'm sure there's a book out there somewhere about Vietnam knife fighting  :hmm .
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #23 on: February 17, 2018, 01:50:58 am »
    Don't overlook Blackjack knives, they do some really nice knives, in a variety of styles.  Love mine!
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    Re: MAC/V SOG Bowie
    « Reply #24 on: February 17, 2018, 01:18:24 pm »
    Desert Rat - those are two very pretty knives. Thanks for sharing.  :thumbup1

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