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Title: Applegate Fairbairn Combat Folder And Large Folder
Post by: Klassh on October 16, 2017, 11:14:36 pm
I carried a Covert folder (3.79" blade - 8.7" overall) for about seven years, only problems I had was the clip bending and getting a little to lose. I took it off and rebent it several times, but meh.  Not ideal.

I lost it and bought the large one this time. 4.5" blade and 10.1 overall.  I'm a big guy, deep pockets, figured why not - let's give it a try.

Don't love it as much, it's big enough to be TO BIG. It's like trying to use a short sword when you are slicing the tape on boxes to break them down. Sure, it impresses folks - but that doesn't mean much.

And, after about a year of carrying the big knife, I found my covert folder when we were throwing our old couches away.  Luckily, I decided to slice open the bottom of the couch to see what was in it and found my much beloved knife.

It's fantastic, the clip still sucks, but it's just the right size.

I HIGHLY recommend it.

I don't recommend sharpening both edges, but you can if you want too.

Here's a picture for reference. The two that are second and third from the left.  (Except the Covert Folder has a titanium itride coating which is pretty stout, mine is probably 96% after this many years of normal abuse.)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uA8zGB4JACI/V7KOjgMxKUI/AAAAAAAANto/HW0wPnsnIZI1E4ssuKpH_EeaA1_dCb3kQCPcB/s1600/20160711_152205.jpg)
Title: Re: Applegate Fairbairn Combat Folder And Large Folder
Post by: coelacanth on October 16, 2017, 11:34:04 pm
Nice knives.  The ones I have handled seem to be well built but like you, I have decided that the smaller blades are generally more useful on a day to day basis.    Good that you found your knife.   :thumbup1    Nothing bothers me quite as much as losing a good knife - well maybe losing a good gun.  Don't ask.   :banghead
Title: Re: Applegate Fairbairn Combat Folder And Large Folder
Post by: Klassh on October 16, 2017, 11:54:17 pm
Ouch - agreed. 

While I've never lost a gun, my dad left a very nice revolver in a hotel in Michigan. He realized it when he was past the point of return, and unfortunately, it being Michigan - they refused to ship it to an FFL near him.  They wanted him to go to the police office and pick it up.

Needless to say, they destroyed the revolver.

Shame, my brother and I bought him it for fathers day back in 2009.  :(

Title: Re: Applegate Fairbairn Combat Folder And Large Folder
Post by: Plebian on October 17, 2017, 12:07:55 am
Those are nice knives, but they are sadly illegal to carry here in OK. If it is sharpened on more than one edge it is defined a dagger here, and daggers are just too evil here by law.

If it was over 2 foot in blade length it is a sword and legal to carry. So I can carry my longsword out but those evil daggers just take it too far.  :shrug
Title: Re: Applegate Fairbairn Combat Folder And Large Folder
Post by: coelacanth on October 17, 2017, 12:42:43 am
 :facepalm
Title: Re: Applegate Fairbairn Combat Folder And Large Folder
Post by: GeorgeHill on October 17, 2017, 10:46:36 am
I have the large Applegate sitting on my desk at home.  I bought it some time ago, and gave it to my son, Aidan, who is now down in Brazil serving his 2 year mission for our church.  When he returns home, he'll get it back. 
I like the Applegate but it's not a personal favorite.  There are two reasons it falls short.  1.  The blade is too thick so it's difficult to get a good edge profile on it.  If it was hollow ground or something, so you could put a finer edge on it, that would help.  2.  The retarded little safety catch... This is why I hate most of the CRKT knives as well... I don't need a secondary lock.  Just make the main lock strong enough.  If your main lock needs a secondary lock - you just need a new knife.
Also, let's roll with a #3.  The blade steel.  The thing dulls if you look at it wrong.  A premium steel option would be nice. 
#4... Grips.  Let's get a version with a thinner yet stiffer grip material as well, to go along with a premium steel option. G10, Micarta, Ironwood... Stainless, ANYTHING other than the cheapish plastic.
Fix these 4 things - and you would have a GREAT knife.
Title: Re: Applegate Fairbairn Combat Folder And Large Folder
Post by: MTK20 on October 17, 2017, 12:02:40 pm
Sorry, but it's just not my blade style. I love a bowie or clip point.

Which brings into question, what is that lovely fixed blade that is on the far left? :drool
Title: Re: Applegate Fairbairn Combat Folder And Large Folder
Post by: booksmart on October 17, 2017, 01:10:43 pm
Spartan Blades, Harsey Difensa, if my google-fu is worth anything...

Yeah, I drooled over it, too... very nice.

MTK20, you'd probably like this (https://www.amazon.com/Boker-02LG115-Persian-Stainless-Magnum/dp/B00U0K077G) one that I picked up recently. Very comfortable in the hand, in whichever grip you choose...
Title: Re: Applegate Fairbairn Combat Folder And Large Folder
Post by: MTK20 on October 17, 2017, 02:05:43 pm
Spartan Blades, Harsey Difensa, if my google-fu is worth anything...

Yeah, I drooled over it, too... very nice.

MTK20, you'd probably like this (https://www.amazon.com/Boker-02LG115-Persian-Stainless-Magnum/dp/B00U0K077G) one that I picked up recently. Very comfortable in the hand, in whichever grip you choose...

That one does look very nice! And the price is right too  :cool.
Title: Re: Applegate Fairbairn Combat Folder And Large Folder
Post by: Klassh on October 17, 2017, 09:29:12 pm
I have the large Applegate sitting on my desk at home.  I bought it some time ago, and gave it to my son, Aidan, who is now down in Brazil serving his 2 year mission for our church.  When he returns home, he'll get it back. 
I like the Applegate but it's not a personal favorite.  There are two reasons it falls short.  1.  The blade is too thick so it's difficult to get a good edge profile on it.  If it was hollow ground or something, so you could put a finer edge on it, that would help.  2.  The retarded little safety catch... This is why I hate most of the CRKT knives as well... I don't need a secondary lock.  Just make the main lock strong enough.  If your main lock needs a secondary lock - you just need a new knife.
Also, let's roll with a #3.  The blade steel.  The thing dulls if you look at it wrong.  A premium steel option would be nice. 
#4... Grips.  Let's get a version with a thinner yet stiffer grip material as well, to go along with a premium steel option. G10, Micarta, Ironwood... Stainless, ANYTHING other than the cheapish plastic.
Fix these 4 things - and you would have a GREAT knife.

You know, those are good points that I never paid attention to until I saw it written down. 

Except I like the grip. :)

I have noticed I've needed to sharpen fairly often.

Those are nice knives, but they are sadly illegal to carry here in OK. If it is sharpened on more than one edge it is defined a dagger here, and daggers are just too evil here by law.

It doesn't come sharpened on both edges, it's got a nice little lip that would take some work to make into a point.
Title: Re: Applegate Fairbairn Combat Folder And Large Folder
Post by: coelacanth on October 19, 2017, 02:56:05 am
I have the large Applegate sitting on my desk at home.  I bought it some time ago, and gave it to my son, Aidan, who is now down in Brazil serving his 2 year mission for our church.  When he returns home, he'll get it back. 
I like the Applegate but it's not a personal favorite.  There are two reasons it falls short.  1.  The blade is too thick so it's difficult to get a good edge profile on it.  If it was hollow ground or something, so you could put a finer edge on it, that would help.  2.  The retarded little safety catch... This is why I hate most of the CRKT knives as well... I don't need a secondary lock.  Just make the main lock strong enough.  If your main lock needs a secondary lock - you just need a new knife.
Also, let's roll with a #3.  The blade steel.  The thing dulls if you look at it wrong.  A premium steel option would be nice. 
#4... Grips.  Let's get a version with a thinner yet stiffer grip material as well, to go along with a premium steel option. G10, Micarta, Ironwood... Stainless, ANYTHING other than the cheapish plastic.
Fix these 4 things - and you would have a GREAT knife.
All good points.  The thing I like about them though is that they make a respectable defensive blade for a reasonable price.   Fix all the things you mentioned and you're probably looking at $200.00 - $300.00 in today's market.   Its getting hard to find anything like you describe for less than that IMO.