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Title: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
Post by: m1911a1lover on January 04, 2017, 10:50:34 am
ok so i thought i had heard everything possible in a gunshop. A customer just came in the store, asked for sabots for 9mm bullets to use in his TC Impact. Said that he had just fired some in the last week. I asked if he was sure it wasnt a .45 sabot, He was steadfast it was 9mm. is there any new products on the market justcoming out that is for 9mm in a .50cal muzzelloader. it think the client is full of it, but thought i would ask. You never know.
Title: Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
Post by: StevenTing on January 04, 2017, 04:11:25 pm
I haven't heard of anything.  I even tried my hand at Google-Fu and got nothing.
Title: Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
Post by: coelacanth on January 06, 2017, 01:53:00 am
I got nothin' .  .  .   :shrug
Title: Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
Post by: m1911a1lover on January 09, 2017, 12:58:47 pm
Thats what i thought, been around awhile in this business, didn't think it existed...thanks guys..
Title: Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
Post by: Roper1911 on January 10, 2017, 10:39:32 am
yeah. I found a .45-.357 sabot. and .50-40,  but not .50-.357.
(source http://mmpsabots.com/store/mmp-standard-sabots/ (http://mmpsabots.com/store/mmp-standard-sabots/))
I suppose you could shoot a 9 in a .45-.357 then stick that in a .50-.45...
Title: Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
Post by: Plebian on January 10, 2017, 05:03:33 pm
yeah. I found a .45-.357 sabot. and .50-40,  but not .50-.357.
(source http://mmpsabots.com/store/mmp-standard-sabots/ (http://mmpsabots.com/store/mmp-standard-sabots/))
I suppose you could shoot a 9 in a .45-.357 then stick that in a .50-.45...

That is not accurate at all. I had some 45-357 for my 45 ML, and a buddy had his 50-45 with his ML. As is bound to happen on a fun range day. We figured give it a whirl and see. It was hard to get the sabot in a sabot going, and they seem to make the 357 rounds tumble.
Title: Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
Post by: Kaso on January 11, 2017, 07:47:42 pm
That is not accurate at all. I had some 45-357 for my 45 ML, and a buddy had his 50-45 with his ML. As is bound to happen on a fun range day. We figured give it a whirl and see. It was hard to get the sabot in a sabot going, and they seem to make the 357 rounds tumble.
Probably for the same reason that a hard boiled egg will spin like a top, yet an uncooked egg will hardly spin at all.  A sabot within a sabot must not be held firmly enough, and is 'free spinning' like the raw egg's yolk.
Title: Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
Post by: Plebian on January 12, 2017, 12:25:28 am
It was also pretty visible there was some yaw to the bullet as you got it started in the bore. So I assume it all added to the horrible accuracy of the setup.

Would there be a way to mold some sabot cups for the 50 - 357 sabot? I have no clue what plastic is used in the sabots.
Title: Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
Post by: m1911a1lover on January 12, 2017, 09:44:14 am
It was also pretty visible there was some yaw to the bullet as you got it started in the bore. So I assume it all added to the horrible accuracy of the setup.

Would there be a way to mold some sabot cups for the 50 - 357 sabot? I have no clue what plastic is used in the sabots.

I believe then maybe the customer had been shooting a .45 cal instead of a .50 cal. But it is good to know that there are sabots available for the different caliber muzzelloaders.  Now to find them up here in Quebec Canada...