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9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
« on: January 04, 2017, 10:50:34 am »
ok so i thought i had heard everything possible in a gunshop. A customer just came in the store, asked for sabots for 9mm bullets to use in his TC Impact. Said that he had just fired some in the last week. I asked if he was sure it wasnt a .45 sabot, He was steadfast it was 9mm. is there any new products on the market justcoming out that is for 9mm in a .50cal muzzelloader. it think the client is full of it, but thought i would ask. You never know.
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    Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
    « Reply #1 on: January 04, 2017, 04:11:25 pm »
    I haven't heard of anything.  I even tried my hand at Google-Fu and got nothing.
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    « Reply #2 on: January 06, 2017, 01:53:00 am »
    I got nothin' .  .  .   :shrug
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    Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
    « Reply #3 on: January 09, 2017, 12:58:47 pm »
    Thats what i thought, been around awhile in this business, didn't think it existed...thanks guys..
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    Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
    « Reply #4 on: January 10, 2017, 10:39:32 am »
    yeah. I found a .45-.357 sabot. and .50-40,  but not .50-.357.
    (source http://mmpsabots.com/store/mmp-standard-sabots/)
    I suppose you could shoot a 9 in a .45-.357 then stick that in a .50-.45...
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    Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
    « Reply #5 on: January 10, 2017, 05:03:33 pm »
    yeah. I found a .45-.357 sabot. and .50-40,  but not .50-.357.
    (source http://mmpsabots.com/store/mmp-standard-sabots/)
    I suppose you could shoot a 9 in a .45-.357 then stick that in a .50-.45...

    That is not accurate at all. I had some 45-357 for my 45 ML, and a buddy had his 50-45 with his ML. As is bound to happen on a fun range day. We figured give it a whirl and see. It was hard to get the sabot in a sabot going, and they seem to make the 357 rounds tumble.
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    Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
    « Reply #6 on: January 11, 2017, 07:47:42 pm »
    That is not accurate at all. I had some 45-357 for my 45 ML, and a buddy had his 50-45 with his ML. As is bound to happen on a fun range day. We figured give it a whirl and see. It was hard to get the sabot in a sabot going, and they seem to make the 357 rounds tumble.
    Probably for the same reason that a hard boiled egg will spin like a top, yet an uncooked egg will hardly spin at all.  A sabot within a sabot must not be held firmly enough, and is 'free spinning' like the raw egg's yolk.

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    Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
    « Reply #7 on: January 12, 2017, 12:25:28 am »
    It was also pretty visible there was some yaw to the bullet as you got it started in the bore. So I assume it all added to the horrible accuracy of the setup.

    Would there be a way to mold some sabot cups for the 50 - 357 sabot? I have no clue what plastic is used in the sabots.
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    Re: 9mm bullets in a sabot for a .50cal blackpowder??..
    « Reply #8 on: January 12, 2017, 09:44:14 am »
    It was also pretty visible there was some yaw to the bullet as you got it started in the bore. So I assume it all added to the horrible accuracy of the setup.

    Would there be a way to mold some sabot cups for the 50 - 357 sabot? I have no clue what plastic is used in the sabots.

    I believe then maybe the customer had been shooting a .45 cal instead of a .50 cal. But it is good to know that there are sabots available for the different caliber muzzelloaders.  Now to find them up here in Quebec Canada...
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