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Military intervention: 1863 NYC Draft Riots
« on: June 02, 2020, 03:41:22 am »
Riot control in another time:

"As the unit, each soldier armed with a rifle and with a battery
of cannon in tow, approached ...  they met strong mob resistance.
... ordered the mob to disperse. ...the rioters refused and began to advance upon the soldiers.  ... ordered his men to fire. ... rounds of grapeshot were fired into the crowd. ...twenty-five rioters fell victim to these volleys, and the crowd scattered."

BULLETS AND CANISTER FIRST, BLANK CARTRIDGES AFTERWARDS:” HARD WAR AND RIOT RESPONSE ON THE UNION HOME FRONT  Joseph Lueck  Page 66

https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=bgsu1467737645&disposition=inline
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    Re: Military intervention: 1863 NYC Draft Riots
    « Reply #1 on: June 02, 2020, 05:42:45 pm »
    Yup.  Every time the issue is broached the answer remains the same.  Since before the dawn of recorded history this world has been ruled by force and it still is.  Other tools and methods have proven to be useful adjuncts to it but they amount to an aperitif to the main course.

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    Re: Military intervention: 1863 NYC Draft Riots
    « Reply #2 on: June 03, 2020, 01:39:52 am »
    Definitely going to have to give that a read.

    I actually had the idea for a PhD dissertation once upon a time: "To Execute the Laws of the Union: Domestic Employment of the Federal Military, 1789-present."  I would have excluded the Indian wars and the Civil War, but the draft riots would probably have qualified for inclusion.  The idea came from reviewing the Color series of war plans.  There was one (either White or Blue, I forget) that was for domestic insurrection/rebellion.

    I'm pretty sure my regiment - 6th Infantry - was one of the units sent to NYC to put down the riots.  I know that Gettysburg is the regiment's last Civil War campaign streamer, because there simply wasn't much left of the regiment after that.
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    Re: Military intervention: 1863 NYC Draft Riots
    « Reply #3 on: June 03, 2020, 04:36:38 pm »
    The military intervention during the "civil rights" protest era in the 1960's comes to mind - especially in light of recent events.  There was an interesting piece on PJMedia yesterday but it won't let me link it.  Try a web search for PJMedia column by Megan Fox 6/2/2020.  Title as follows:

    "We don't have a racism problem, we have a deep state problem: The hideous killing of Duncan Lemp" 
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    Re: Military intervention: 1863 NYC Draft Riots
    « Reply #4 on: June 03, 2020, 05:11:03 pm »
    We also have a "dumbed down population" problem, unable to to analyze the facts for themselves and thus dependent on talking heads to tell them what to think.

    A policy of "Looters will be shot on sight" coupled with gun mounted cameras recording video AND live streaming it non-stop might put a damper on the festivities.  :coffee

    The military intervention during the "civil rights" protest era in the 1960's comes to mind - especially in light of recent events.  There was an interesting piece on PJMedia yesterday but it won't let me link it.  Try a web search for PJMedia column by Megan Fox 6/2/2020.  Title as follows:

    "We don't have a racism problem, we have a deep state problem: The hideous killing of Duncan Lemp"

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    Re: Military intervention: 1863 NYC Draft Riots
    « Reply #5 on: June 03, 2020, 08:31:03 pm »
    The military intervention during the "civil rights" protest era in the 1960's comes to mind - especially in light of recent events.  There was an interesting piece on PJMedia yesterday but it won't let me link it.  Try a web search for PJMedia column by Megan Fox 6/2/2020.  Title as follows:

    "We don't have a racism problem, we have a deep state problem: The hideous killing of Duncan Lemp" 

    Gah...won't let me read it without turning off my ad blocker.
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    Re: Military intervention: 1863 NYC Draft Riots
    « Reply #6 on: June 03, 2020, 11:23:50 pm »
    We also have a "dumbed down population" problem, unable to to analyze the facts for themselves and thus dependent on talking heads to tell them what to think.

    A policy of "Looters will be shot on sight" coupled with gun mounted cameras recording video AND live streaming it non-stop might put a damper on the festivities.  :coffee

    Agreed.  At this point teaching people how to think instead of what to think would be considered revolutionary. 

    As for the "Looters will be shot on sight" policy, I think it might already be in effect, unofficially, in many suburbs and rural areas.   :hmm
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