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Re: Dog the Bounty Hunter
« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2012, 11:21:14 am »
Chapman was  arrested for deprivation of liberty because bounty-hunting is prohibited by Mexican law.
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    « Reply #51 on: January 24, 2012, 12:57:31 pm »
    I hear the dealers get a bit more restrictive than the law requires.

    I don't know if it's like that all over, but it definately is here.  One province banned body armor for non-LEO and security and dealers across the country came out with policies restricting sales.  At the time I was looking at buying a cut/stab resistant vest because of where I was working.  I had been in frequent and close contact with the retail and one day it was all of a sudden, "We're sorry, but we can no longer sell this product to individuals, nor can we discuss any more details about it with you."  Definately CYA because they don't want to see their industry over regulated, not just to avoid litigation.
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    Re: Dog the Bounty Hunter
    « Reply #52 on: January 24, 2012, 01:59:32 pm »
    Chapman was  arrested for deprivation of liberty because bounty-hunting is prohibited by Mexican law.

    Know what?  Fluff Mexico.  Murder, kidnapping, prostituting minors and drug dealing is ALSO illegal.  Yet, Americans fall victim to all of that all too commonly if they venture onto Mexican soil... or even live in a Nevada suburb miles from the border.
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    « Reply #53 on: January 24, 2012, 02:04:10 pm »
    or even live in a Nevada suburb miles from the border.

    Gee, I didn't know they'd moved the border that far north already, they never tell me anything.  :neener
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    « Reply #54 on: January 24, 2012, 02:06:08 pm »
     :rotfl
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    « Reply #55 on: January 24, 2012, 02:08:36 pm »
    Jesse, does that mean we're Mexican citizens now?  :confused
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    « Reply #56 on: January 24, 2012, 02:14:43 pm »
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    « Reply #57 on: January 24, 2012, 02:19:01 pm »
    :'(
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    « Reply #58 on: January 24, 2012, 02:30:02 pm »
    Gee, I didn't know they'd moved the border that far north already, they never tell me anything.  :neener

    No.  Mexicans are just coming across the border, then kidnapping women to prostitute them.  That's why I'm saying "or even."

    Also, I have a friend in Texas who says that the REAL border is north of Amarillo.  The Alamo is back in Mexican hands.
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    « Reply #59 on: January 24, 2012, 02:39:28 pm »
    Just keep in mind Doug, the Mexican border is more than just "miles" from any Nevada suburb. More like 300 miles.

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    « Reply #60 on: January 24, 2012, 03:02:22 pm »
    And this lessens my disdain for "Mexican law enforcement" how?  That their thugs can traipse hundreds and hundreds of miles into the US  to kidnap for ransom, or kidnap for prostitution is part of the reason why I feel nothing but disdain for Mexico accusing Dog of doing what their "citizens" do in bulk for huge profits, and branched out into snatching Americans.

    edit: And that's not counting how rigged and phony Dog's show and career are.

    It's akin to jailing Martha Stewart for insider trading while Goldman Sachs gets $20 mil parachutes and TARP money.
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    « Reply #61 on: January 24, 2012, 03:10:20 pm »
    or even live in a Nevada suburb miles from the border.

    You were watching Kidnap & Rescue last night, hmm?  ;)


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    « Reply #62 on: January 24, 2012, 03:31:44 pm »
    You were watching Kidnap & Rescue last night, hmm?  ;)
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    :D

    I mean, I know about folks getting snatched when they cross the border, but last night was a neat little new story.  Neat concept.  Sucky real life.
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    « Reply #63 on: January 24, 2012, 04:11:42 pm »
    The South Park rendition of Dog's wife was dead on hilarious!  :rotfl
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    « Reply #64 on: June 22, 2021, 12:09:19 pm »
    I am a newbe to this forum but had been an LEO for forty years so I have seen real Bond Enforcement Agents (Bounty hunters) in action.

    Nothing at all like Dog the Bounty Hunter which is basically entertainment TV.

    Think about it,if you were on the run and seeing camera crews and ninja clad folks running with large containers of OC spray on their hips,you would not hang around that area for long.

    Then when Dog gets the bond jumper,he makes nice with them and straightens them out.  Yeah,right.

    Seldom have I ever seen a bond skipper,who has been in jail in the past,meekly surrender to go back in.

    I might be wrong on this,but isn't Dog a convicted felon??????????

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    « Reply #65 on: June 22, 2021, 01:27:34 pm »
    Dunno.   :shrug   Never followed him or his show.  Frankly I don't have much tolerance for anything that passes as "reality TV".  As you say, the camera crew(s) with all the assorted equipment and vehicles required to schlepp everything around is about as subtle and unobtrusive as a train wreck.   I was forced to watch ( not my house, not my TV ) an episode of the Bear Grylls outdoor charade once and the so called " remote wilderness " they were in had power transmission lines visible and way of in the distance ( probably a mile or two away ) you could see what looked like an interstate highway with lots of traffic passing by.  "Remote wilderness" my ass.   :scrutiny  Turn the cameras around and there is probably a graded dirt road and a Forest Service Road sign within a few yards. 
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    « Reply #66 on: June 23, 2021, 08:13:18 am »
    Coelacanth,

    Yup,I agree.  I watched  Naked & Afraid one evening. What a waste of an hour. These two survival "experts" out in the wilderness cannot find their butts with both hands.

    Want a real survival show?  Drop them off on a deserted island and leave them there for three weeks and then come back. See whose left standing.

    As for Dog the Bounty Hunter,seems that most of his skips are of the minor offense type and he seems to have his press corps ahead of him making way.

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    « Reply #67 on: June 23, 2021, 10:45:31 am »
    Coelacanth,

    Yup,I agree.  I watched  Naked & Afraid one evening. What a waste of an hour. These two survival "experts" out in the wilderness cannot find their butts with both hands.

    Want a real survival show?  Drop them off on a deserted island and leave them there for three weeks and then come back. See whose left standing.

    As for Dog the Bounty Hunter,seems that most of his skips are of the minor offense type and he seems to have his press corps ahead of him making way.

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    You want "Alone".  I have only seen one season, and not the first.  I think it was Season 6.  But basically what you describe above is it.  They get to pick 10 items or something from an arbitrary list and get dumped in the wilderness.  They contestants are in the same basic area, but are far enough apart to reasonably prevent contact.  They get regular medical checks and have an electronic signal they can activate to quit of in an emergency.  They manage their own camera equipement, so part of the medical checks is to collect memory cards and dead batteries and supply fresh cards and fresh batteries.

    Still not entirely "real" but far closer than anything else I have ever seen.
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    « Reply #68 on: June 23, 2021, 03:57:01 pm »
    Fair enough.  That sounds like progress toward "reality" even if it hasn't arrived yet.   I still think the whole phenomenon exists to have something marginally interesting to put on a TV screen as a vehicle to sell overpriced advertising space for things we don't need.   :coffee
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    « Reply #69 on: June 24, 2021, 08:59:40 am »
    Considering that the average TV show is geared towards the intellect of a 12 year old (at best),no further comment needed.

    A friend of mine has a ranch out in Wyoming. He said that his TV broke down in 1979,never bothered to get it fixed. Hasn't missed it.

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    « Reply #70 on: June 24, 2021, 02:54:11 pm »
    Considering that the average TV show is geared towards the intellect of a 12 year old (at best),no further comment needed.

    A friend of mine has a ranch out in Wyoming. He said that his TV broke down in 1979,never bothered to get it fixed. Hasn't missed it.

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     :rotfl

    It's hard to argue with that  :thumbup1 .
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    « Reply #71 on: June 27, 2021, 09:37:06 am »
    MT,
    I hardly watch regular TV programs. I stay mainly tuned to the History channel or Discovery Channel.

    If folks would just sit back and think (uh-oh,I said that think word) about how stupid that show Dog the Bounty Hunter is,they would not watch it.

    I am sure he gets most,if not all of his funds,from the program. Not as a bounty hunter. To expend that amount of resources on a skip is counter-productive.

    More than likely,the "skip" is a paid actor playing the part of getting caught.

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    « Reply #72 on: June 28, 2021, 08:54:35 pm »
    What?!?  You mean reality TV isn't REAL??? :o
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    « Reply #73 on: June 29, 2021, 08:53:46 am »
    What?!?  You mean reality TV isn't REAL??? :o

    Well... certain channels are... some are close, but only if you squint *really hard*...

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    « Reply #74 on: June 29, 2021, 09:53:55 am »
    Real Bond Enforcement Agents (bounty hunters) go about their business with little fuzz and fanfare.

    They pretty much go in,get their skip,and are out of there before anyone knows what has happened.

    If a skip jumps bail,in my state the Bondsman has 182 days to produce the body (notice I said body) before he has to surrender the bond money.

    Our warrants say body,does not say dead or alive,just produce the body.

    Many bondmen use off duty cops to assist and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Bounty Hunters don't have to play by the rules the police do.  Just produce the body.

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