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Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
« on: January 22, 2009, 01:25:48 am »
I'm going hunting.  Feel the need.  Small part, 3 guys and the guide.  We all get to kill some meat.  500 for the tag, 150 for the processing (cheap!) and we don't have to do anything other than locate, identify and prosecute the targets.
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #1 on: January 22, 2009, 07:31:06 am »
    Wish I could go.  Friday's a range night for this months hunter-ed class.  Elk.  Yummy.
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #2 on: January 22, 2009, 11:51:47 am »
    Would love to, but I don't like to be cold.  Which rifle are you taking?
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #3 on: January 22, 2009, 12:52:17 pm »
    Remington 700 7mm Rem Mag, Leupold 4-12 Scope.
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #4 on: January 22, 2009, 01:10:11 pm »
    If you happen to have lots of meat, make some jerky.  Sell it at FBMG as Ogre Snacks, fresh from the wild.  Wish I could go.  BTW, I've got an Air Rifle you can zero in next time you're out.  Shoots at 1100fps.  It's an RWS Diana 48 or 52.  Don't remember exactly.
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #5 on: January 22, 2009, 03:21:05 pm »
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    If you happen to have lots of meat, make some jerky.  Sell it at FBMG as Ogre Snacks, fresh from the wild.
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #6 on: January 22, 2009, 07:17:51 pm »
    Are you trying to get around the sensor here George? :o

    Curious-  What slug are you going to use?
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #7 on: January 22, 2009, 07:41:46 pm »
    I'm going to use a 154 SST Hornady.  If it drops the elk DRT, like I think it will - then I know it's good enough for everything I'll ever need it for and I can stop buying two loads.  (Other is the 162 BTSP)
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #8 on: January 22, 2009, 08:30:14 pm »
    I've been eating Elk since First of October and the Freezer is still full..... I just completed my Utah Online Applications for 2009 Hunting permits.... Good Luck on the Hunt... remember... herd them close to the road before you shoot  :D

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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #9 on: January 22, 2009, 10:08:50 pm »
    George, a couple notes and questions on that projectile.

    Does it say anything about interlock or interbonded?  If so it's a tough bullet, bonded being the stronger of the 2.

    If it's not-  Be careful with the shot you take.  That SST(super shock tip) expands rapidly and violently, especially at the high velocities a short range shot will produce.  So if it's not bonded in any way I highly reccomend through the ribs into the boiler room or the neck.  Trying to go through the shoulder, I have no doubt you'll stop it for the anchoring shot, but you'll wreck a hell of a lot of meat(most likey lose the whole shoulder to bloodshot).

    Figure you may already know all this, but in case you didn't there it is.  GOOD LUCK boss.
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #10 on: January 22, 2009, 10:33:10 pm »
     :cuss
    No one else can go now.  Things came up so my other two hunters dropped out.  I could go Solo, or I could get some things done that have been piling up. 
    So, I'm working in the morning, a little inventory, running up to Manila to cash in about 30 coyote ears I have stacked up for the bounty... and in the afternoon - dang it... we have some tannerite to shoot. 
    I have till the end of the month though for that.  So no rush right now. 

    No, I'm not worried about the SST... I don't know of it's a bonded core... but I shot a Mule Deer with it last week and the bullet just sailed through that mulie with an exit wound only slightly larger than the entry.   The effect was a tad disappointing.  Side on - hit rib, vectored the heart, and passed between ribs exiting.  About 500 yards.   No bullet recovered, but it seemed as if it hardly expanded at all.  Deer ran for about 50 yards, then acted drunk for about minute before falling over and didn't even twitch. 
    A cow Elk is heavier... heavier bones.  I'm interested in seeing what it will do.
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #11 on: January 23, 2009, 12:33:06 am »
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    Deer ran for about 50 yards, then acted drunk for about minute before falling over and didn't even twitch. 

    Classic heart shot reaction.  I actually use remington core lockts for exactly that kind of performace.  Others say you have to have a lot more expansion.  Nope.  Put it where you should and don't ruin meat with "explosive" bullet performance.

    Although your shot results seem odd.  Given the lack of expansion, I'm guessing it's bonded.  Non-bonded with a polymer tip usually open up fast.
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #12 on: January 23, 2009, 12:56:07 am »
    Or it opened up so fast the expanded bits peeled off leaving the core/jacket mass to over-penetrate like a 120mm SABOT through a BMP.  Which is exactly what I think happened.   154 grains at 3036 FPS... Perhaps a wee bit too fast for the bullet construction.   I was expecting it to act more like a Siera Game King.
    I shot a coyote with the same round about 400 yards.  Hit to the lower lip as it was looking at me.   This time the result was a bit more... dramatic.  I could only find one ear.   Much more shock effect there.  I was aiming for the chest, using the Nikon BDC reticle... which isn't as good as they say it is... but it does give you more hold points to use.  But that's another discussion.   
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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #13 on: January 23, 2009, 11:01:05 am »
    :cuss
    No one else can go now.  Things came up so my other two hunters dropped out.  I could go Solo, or I could get some things done that have been piling up. 
    So, I'm working in the morning, a little inventory, running up to Manila to cash in about 30 coyote ears I have stacked up for the bounty... and in the afternoon - dang it... we have some tannerite to shoot. 
    I have till the end of the month though for that.  So no rush right now. 

    Man... if I was closer and you were willing to take someone who's never been hunting (read:  smart, but clueless where hunting is concerned), I'd have gone.  Ho-hum.


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    Re: Short Notice: Elk Hunt this Friday Morning.
    « Reply #14 on: January 23, 2009, 11:21:13 am »
    The hunt is like this:  You pay the money for the voucher and then go get your hunting tag.  The morning of the hunt you glad hand the guide/owner and we pile into his truck to head out to the grounds.  We could call the elk.  Stalk the elk.  However you want to go about it.  Most of the scouting can be done from the vehicle with spotting scopes, if you want.  Pretty much - whatever you want.
    Once the elk is spotting - take your time.  Enjoy watching them.  Pick the one you want.  Work your elk, find that shot... and take it.  Confirm it's down, clean and ethical. 
    Call the truck back.  Reloacate the elk you killed.   They take care of the elk, gut it and clean it and take it to processor.  You get cut and wrapped meat.
    It's like Grocery Shopping, but at a higher velocity.
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