Author Topic: The single shot pistol stock that upset the Feds. (Read 4618 times)

RMc · « **on:** January 07, 2018, 08:34:21 pm »

Fajen's Push Pull stock for the Remington XP100 made accurate handgunning just too easy. It wasn't long after that pistols with two hand grips were killed by agency rulings.

American Handgunner Jan/Feb 1979
On the cover and article on page 38
https://americanhandgunner.com/1979issues/HJF79.pdf

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GeorgeHill · « **Reply #1 on:** January 07, 2018, 10:50:30 pm »

I remember that issue... I had a copy. I remember that gun too. A left hand version would be ideal.

First Shirt · « **Reply #2 on:** January 08, 2018, 02:59:43 pm »

Had a friend who had a custom XP-100 built in .308 Win. Looked a little odd, but shot like a dream, and was a real tack-driver! He was a Minnesota resident (living in Iowa at the time) and wanted to go home and take advantage of Minnesota's new laws allowing handguns for deer hunting.

Back home, he's all geared up to go hunting with his new "pistol." Opening morning, he's having breakfast at a little diner, along with a bunch of deer hunters, and two game wardens. They get to talking about what they're going to be using for opening day, and he can't wait to brag about his really neat custom handgun. And then one of the game wardens pointed out that the minimum caliber for deer hunting in Minnesota was .356, and that his .308 chambered XP-100 was not legal for deer hunting.

He was forced to use his Dan Wesson .357, with the 6-inch barrel.

MTK20 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 08, 2018, 05:15:01 pm »

Quote from: First Shirt on January 08, 2018, 02:59:43 pm

Had a friend who had a custom XP-100 built in .308 Win. Looked a little odd, but shot like a dream, and was a real tack-driver! He was a Minnesota resident (living in Iowa at the time) and wanted to go home and take advantage of Minnesota's new laws allowing handguns for deer hunting.

Back home, he's all geared up to go hunting with his new "pistol." Opening morning, he's having breakfast at a little diner, along with a bunch of deer hunters, and two game wardens. They get to talking about what they're going to be using for opening day, and he can't wait to brag about his really neat custom handgun. And then one of the game wardens pointed out that the minimum caliber for deer hunting in Minnesota was .356, and that his .308 chambered XP-100 was not legal for deer hunting.

He was forced to use his Dan Wesson .357, with the 6-inch barrel.

I have never actually known anyone to use a handgun to hunt deer except Grant with his Sig P226 and my Dad with his model 29. Always thought that was kind of cool. I have a 5 inch .357 magnum, maybe one day I'll try my hand at it (assuming it's legal in Texas, I'll have to check the laws here).

First Shirt · « **Reply #4 on:** January 08, 2018, 05:31:51 pm »

I've taken a few deer and hogs with a Ruger Bisley Blackhawk in .41 Mag, and a bunch more with a Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt. Of course, I'm pretty sticky about range, and shot placement (if I can't put it where I want it, inside the range I want, I just won't take the shot). That said, I won't go afield without a backup handgun, and if it's more feasible to take the shot with a handgun than with a rifle, I don't have a problem doing that.

My #1 Senior Minion and I play a game, where she's overwatch and I'm the designated sucker, using a predator call to entice feral hogs into shooting range. There have been a couple of occasions when a Vaquero in .45 Colt, at ranges inside of 20 yards, was the answer to a maiden's prayer. (Or at least, mine!) Never had a failure, to date. Of course, I'm pushing a 300 gr. WFN bullet at 1200+ fps, and can usually hit a soda can at 25 yards.

It's kept my delicate hide intact and un-munched, on a number of occasions.

Grant · « **Reply #5 on:** January 08, 2018, 11:24:21 pm »

Quote from: MTK20 on January 08, 2018, 05:15:01 pm

I have never actually known anyone to use a handgun to hunt deer except Grant with his Sig P226 and my Dad with his model 29. Always thought that was kind of cool. I have a 5 inch .357 magnum, maybe one day I'll try my hand at it (assuming it's legal in Texas, I'll have to check the laws here).

Not just my 226.

1911 .45acp . S&W .41 magnum. Ruger .44 magnum. .45 acp Sig. Think a couple others but I cant recall at the moment.

Love it. THough I been moving towards muzzleloaders and this year, archery or spears

MTK20 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 08, 2018, 11:42:52 pm »

Quote from: Grant on January 08, 2018, 11:24:21 pm

Not just my 226.

1911 .45acp . S&W .41 magnum. Ruger .44 magnum. .45 acp Sig. Think a couple others but I cant recall at the moment.

Love it. THough I been moving towards muzzleloaders and this year, archery or spears

You keep it up and you'll be a more youthful version of "unkle musket" on the forum

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First Shirt · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2018, 12:29:23 am »

Quote from: Grant on January 08, 2018, 11:24:21 pm

Not just my 226.

1911 .45acp . S&W .41 magnum. Ruger .44 magnum. .45 acp Sig. Think a couple others but I cant recall at the moment.

Love it. THough I been moving towards muzzleloaders and this year, archery or spears

You're welcome to my share! I've taken one hog with a flintlock, and one with a bow, and I don't think I want to do either one again. And I, for sure and certain, don't want to try a spear. I've seen what a PO'd boar can do to a 90 lb. dog, and I'm really fond of my hide in an intact condition!

wyatt · « **Reply #8 on:** January 09, 2018, 02:23:48 am »

Quote from: Grant on January 08, 2018, 11:24:21 pm

Not just my 226.

1911 .45acp . S&W .41 magnum. Ruger .44 magnum. .45 acp Sig. Think a couple others but I cant recall at the moment.

Love it. THough I been moving towards muzzleloaders and this year, archery or spears

I've killed one deer with my Colt series 70, 1911 and several with my flintlock and bow. I don't know anybody that's hunted with a spear but I think it's great that somebody out there still does! All of our ancient ancestors did it and that knowledge should be preserved.

Mississippi556 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 10, 2018, 05:29:38 pm »

I have used a handgun, .357 Mag, to put down a wounded deer that was still struggling after a less than ideal rifle shot. Head shot at 10 feet, 125 grain hollow point. After getting down out of my deer stand and waiting a long time, I found the deer about 75 yards away in heavy brush still kicking. The deer had been running and the shot had been a bit too far back. That's my only experience. I think a handgun is a good choice for that task.

First Shirt · « **Reply #10 on:** January 10, 2018, 10:21:10 pm »

I've used a .22LR handgun (Ruger SR-22 autoloader) to dispatch a couple of auto-vs-deer incidents. Wasn't my first choice, but it was what was available. Worked well enough, but I'd have been happier with a bigger bullet moving faster.

sqlbullet · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2018, 10:41:23 am »

Quote from: First Shirt on January 10, 2018, 10:21:10 pm

I've used a .22LR handgun (Ruger SR-22 autoloader) to dispatch a couple of auto-vs-deer incidents. Wasn't my first choice, but it was what was available. Worked well enough, but I'd have been happier with a bigger bullet moving faster.

22lr from a single shot rifle is what we used on the farm growing up to put down animals all the way up to the biggest beef. Shot placement is the key.

RMc · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2018, 05:42:16 pm »

Quote from: GeorgeHill on January 07, 2018, 10:50:30 pm

I remember that issue... I had a copy. I remember that gun too. A left hand version would be ideal.

Remington now has a 40-XP in right and left hand bolt versions:

https://remington-catalog.com/catalogs/remington/2018/

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