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SIG P365
« on: June 02, 2018, 02:43:21 pm »
Ok.  Handled one of these the other day.  Feels good, points good, trigger is decent, night sights are a plus and it is very compact.  :cool   But . . .

It seems to have stumbled right out of the gate.   :hmm   Reliability has been suspect from more than one problem.   In the past I would call this an isolated problem and uncharacteristic of SIG products in general but over the last few years they have had several problems crop up - particularly with new releases.   I'm inclined to pass on this pistol until we know more about it - what's wrong with them and what's being done by SIG to correct the problem.   

Anybody here have one?  If so, what are your impressions?   

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    Re: SIG P365
    « Reply #1 on: June 02, 2018, 02:53:22 pm »
    Was just talking about this today at my LGS. Firing pins snapping off apparently is a thing? My friend was talking about it today, while I was trying to order a back buckhorn site for a model 94AE and sell my 686.

    I really want to like these Sig 365's, but I've never even held one yet  :hmm .
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    Quote from: GeorgeHill on September 20, 2015, 08:18:34 pm
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: SIG P365
    « Reply #2 on: June 02, 2018, 03:09:30 pm »
    Well, it feels good, looks good, points good, yadda - yadda .  .  .  but it's kind of pricey for a paper weight.  MAC ( Military Arms Channel ) actually had one break during the filming of a range test.  They had a problem with a dragging firing pin but that didn't disable the gun.  What took it out of action was apparently a broken trigger linkage which resulted in a "dead trigger" that just flopped around a little and didn't do anything else. 

    NOT confidence inspiring.   I think I'll stick with what I've got for the moment. 
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    Re: SIG P365
    « Reply #3 on: June 02, 2018, 03:21:40 pm »
    Quote from: coelacanth on June 02, 2018, 03:09:30 pm
    Well, it feels good, looks good, points good, yadda - yadda .  .  .  but it's kind of pricey for a paper weight.  MAC ( Military Arms Channel ) actually had one break during the filming of a range test.  They had a problem with a dragging firing pin but that didn't disable the gun.  What took it out of action was apparently a broken trigger linkage which resulted in a "dead trigger" that just flopped around a little and didn't do anything else. 

    NOT confidence inspiring.   I think I'll stick with what I've got for the moment.

    Agreed, not confidence inspiring at all.

    That being said, you've carried your S&W model 10 for years and years, right? I know you sometimes switch things up, but I'd be surprised if any gun replaced that as a carry peice  :cool .
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    Quote from: GeorgeHill on September 20, 2015, 08:18:34 pm
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: SIG P365
    « Reply #4 on: June 02, 2018, 03:31:16 pm »
    I carry it when I'm open carrying - as well as other K frame variants - but sometimes I prefer a concealed carry option and a full sized K frame, square butt revolver with a 5" barrel is a bit of a challenge in that department.  Jackets in Phoenix in the summer time pretty much advertise you as carrying something you'd rather keep concealed.  You can get away with a Hawaiian shirt or maybe a guayabera a times but even those aren't really up to the task of concealing the old girl in her belt holster. 
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    Re: SIG P365
    « Reply #5 on: June 02, 2018, 05:28:03 pm »
    This whole time I thought you carried it IWB  :hmm .
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    Quote from: GeorgeHill on September 20, 2015, 08:18:34 pm
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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    Re: SIG P365
    « Reply #6 on: June 03, 2018, 02:26:32 am »
    Nah.  That is usually the model 13 or the model 65.  They are both round butt, 3" barrels and much more manageable.  If it really needs to disappear I have been known to carry a Springfield Armory XDS. 
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    Re: SIG P365
    « Reply #7 on: June 03, 2018, 02:48:37 am »
    I think we've had a model 65 on sale at the LGS forever now. It looks like a nice k frame, albeit it has a sticky cylinder release.
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    Quote from: GeorgeHill on September 20, 2015, 08:18:34 pm
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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    Re: SIG P365
    « Reply #8 on: June 03, 2018, 12:33:24 pm »
    See if they'll knock a bit off the price of the 65 to move it.  Then put a few drops of Slipstream at the base of the cylinder release.  I put a couple of drops on the piston of one of my RCBS Jr. presses because it squeaked.  That was maybe five or more years ago.  I have to tie the handle in the up position when not in use, because the Slipstream did too good of a job.   :clap
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    Re: SIG P365
    « Reply #9 on: June 03, 2018, 02:04:04 pm »
    It might work.  On the other hand, it might be a bent crane which would suck most heinously for the eventual buyer of said wheelgun.   :hmm

    Having an independent revolver smith check it out would not be a bad idea if one were contemplating a purchase. 
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    Re: SIG P365
    « Reply #10 on: June 03, 2018, 02:13:11 pm »
    Anyway - back to the P365.  As I said, I have been known to carry a S.A. XDS when discretion is critical and decided to take a look at the newest SIG to see how it compared.  It feels very nice in my hand and given the proper holster I think it might be ahead of the XDS in that aspect - particularly with the flush magazines in the gun.  I haven't fired one at this point and am not likely to unless the bugs get worked out because I'm just not interested in a carry gun that isn't as close to 100% reliable as humanly possible. 

    So far the XDS has been 100% reliable except for a single failure to properly eject an aluminum case from some CCI Blazer practice ammo.  It was a stovepipe jam and easily cleared without breaking down the pistol.  My carry ammo has run 100% so far. 
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