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Arizona CHL and leather holsters.
« on: November 27, 2019, 12:51:15 am »
Greetings everyone. I have a new CHL holder who is looking for her first holster. I have reported to her how great Luke Adams holsters are and she is considering.

One of her concerns is leather holsters and Arizona summers. If leather would be a "bad" option due to comfort or being sticky.

Because I know we have many Arizona gun owners here who enjoy Luke Adams products, I figured I could ask y'all and send this link to her.

Would anyone care to testify?
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Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: Arizona CHL and leather holsters.
    « Reply #1 on: November 27, 2019, 01:05:38 am »
    All my holsters are leather at this point.   I have nothing against Kydex but leather seems to be a little easier on gun finishes.   No holster is completely "comfortable" when worn all day, outdoors, in the summer heat.   They will get damp from perspiration and generally benefit from being given a bit of waterproofing on the side next to clothing and any edges that adjoin that area.  You will generally need two holsters in order to rotate them if you carry all day, every day in a Phoenix summer.  It lets the holster dry out and retain its shape over the long term. 

    This goes for belt holsters and shoulder holsters.  I don't have any "pocket" holsters but I imagine the same advice would apply.  Luke's holsters have been as good as anything I have used or even seen over the last thirty years.  Highly recommended.   :thumbup1
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    Re: Arizona CHL and leather holsters.
    « Reply #2 on: November 27, 2019, 01:32:46 am »
    I don't have any of Luke's holsters, but I do have three leather OWB holsters that I use.   I also use a "sticky" IWB holster I use with a stainless and polymer handgun.  The latter does get damp and a little uncomfortable after a day in the summer.   In general, OWB holster dont have that issue.
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    « Reply #3 on: December 01, 2019, 03:50:08 pm »
    So holsters in hot weather, note I do now build both technically;) But kydex the concern is if left in a car or hot environment it will deform. That's how they are built and kydex is a thermoplastic that will form again with heat or lay back flat again if heated enough. What generally happens in those cases is that it deforms and you can't get the gun into it or the retention goes bad for ya. Now I'm not saying it happens all the time but AZ heat is no joke, and left in a car with the windows up I have ZERO doubt it would happen. I've seen normal polymer stuff melt in the TX and AZ sun inside a car.

    Leather wise sweat can be an issue but I find it less of an issue with leather than kydex, even so I'm still a firm believer in an undershirt for either to help control sweat away from the holster. Generally though unless doing a manual labor type of job take the gun out of the holster at the end of the day let it dry out and repeat the following day. Not too much trouble, if it's really damp from sweat maybe toss a fan on it. But I really haven't heard or seen too many issues myself over the years with it. And when I was out there, I sweat like no ones business being a Yooper in the heat, I never had any issues and my new stuff is sealed even more so than my older stuff so I'd say likely she won't have any issues.

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    Re: Arizona CHL and leather holsters.
    « Reply #4 on: December 02, 2019, 02:25:47 am »
    Thank you very much for the detailed breakdown, Luke!  :thumbup2
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: Arizona CHL and leather holsters.
    « Reply #5 on: February 26, 2020, 11:41:00 pm »
    I've lived in AZ for the last 14 years and in New Mexico for the previous 29 years (It gets hot there too) and I have never used anything but leather holsters. Right now I carry in my RF Pocket and use a leather holster. I have tried out a couple Kydex holsters and was not impressed.
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    Re: Arizona CHL and leather holsters.
    « Reply #6 on: February 27, 2020, 02:40:57 pm »
    I find leather feels less sweaty in hot weather. Kydex just feels so sweaty and nasty when wet.

    I use Kydex at work cause I literally wade into water with it, but I always use leather if not in the field wading.
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    Re: Arizona CHL and leather holsters.
    « Reply #7 on: February 27, 2020, 05:09:01 pm »
    Personally I use Kydex for IWB and leather for OWB.  I never take a holster off and leave it in the car, but Luke brings up a very valid concern.  I have certainly used heat to add the final touch to a kydex holster or two over the years and can testify that you can absolutely change the shape, and if un-controlled the change will be bad, not good.

    When I teach a CFP class I just tell the class plainly "Everyone that actually carries ends up with a box of hosters that seemed like the perfect solution, but weren't.  Plan on spending some money, over time, looking for your ideal solution."
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    « Reply #8 on: February 27, 2020, 05:40:25 pm »
    Personally I use Kydex for IWB and leather for OWB.  I never take a holster off and leave it in the car, but Luke brings up a very valid concern.  I have certainly used heat to add the final touch to a kydex holster or two over the years and can testify that you can absolutely change the shape, and if un-controlled the change will be bad, not good.

    When I teach a CFP class I just tell the class plainly "Everyone that actually carries ends up with a box of hosters that seemed like the perfect solution, but weren't.  Plan on spending some money, over time, looking for your ideal solution."

    Something I've seen but not encountered myself also is shipping a kydex rig and having it deform. Mailman delivers it into a black mailbox in a hot climate and you've got yourself a little solar oven;)

    But yeah it can be an issue, most people aren't gonna likely see it but something at least to be aware of;) Since if I ship someone a perfect kydex holster and it's all borked when they get it it's possible something like this happened in route. Or leaving it in a hot car etc.

    Both materials have their place, just depends on application and person. I'm still a leather day to day guy, I don't honestly know that, that will ever change. But I've got my zippo in a kydex pouch on my belt(which is the best way IMHO to carry a Zippo I've ever seen or used), and today because I'm tired I'm running my wheelgun, so that means the multitool is riding kydex, speedloader in leather, holster in leather. So I do mix it up a bit, but there are certain things that lend themselves very very well to kydex. Insulin pumps and that whole project, absolutely kydex application.

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