Author Topic: All Pistols should be this... (Read 16923 times)

GeorgeHill · « **on:** August 16, 2017, 12:21:17 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rhs_Usv9uE&feature=youtu.be
The SIG 229 is the only semi auto handgun I would buy new for Carry. I'd either get it in 9mm, or in .40 and get a .357 SIG barrel for it. The .357 SIG in a 229 is the choice of the US Air Marshals. The one Agency that takes handgunning more seriously than anyone else.... And they've used this combo for years and years now. They tried to get away from it, but quickly returned to it... Because it's just that damned good.
I find them to be absolutely amazing guns to shoot, and they carry well.
The only guns that would compare - for me - would be the CZ PCR or P01.

WeTheArmed.com

sqlbullet · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2017, 01:04:00 pm »

Several years back I was on my way home from Paris, and had a layover in Detroit. Boarding for SLC I had a young lady board at the last second and take the seat next to me. She was flying on a standby ticket, and there had been some hub-bub during boarding and the captain asked to speak with her. I didn't think much of it.

During the flight we talked a bit about my job, her job which was a trainer, traveling around the US for her company providing technical seminars to employees. For the most part I just read my book.

As we stood to de-plane, her sweater snagged on the seat, then sprung up. And there was her Sig P229. I moved my bag to shield the view of the gun from the rest of the plane and let her know she was showing. She turned bright red as she pulled her sweater back over her carry piece, and then bolted from the plane to her next flight.

Only encounter I know of that I had with an Air Marshall. Sorry this is a bit off topic of the P229 itself, but your reference made me remember it.

booksmart · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2017, 01:20:27 pm »

Quote from: sqlbullet on August 16, 2017, 01:04:00 pm

As we stood to de-plane, her sweater snagged on the seat, then sprung up. And there was her Sig P229. I moved my bag to shield the view of the gun from the rest of the plane and let her know she was showing. She turned bright red as she pulled her sweater back over her carry piece, and then bolted from the plane to her next flight.

If that's the way you phrased it, she may've thought you meant something else was showing, judging by her reaction...

GeorgeHill · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2017, 03:37:18 pm »

Air Marshalls don't like to be outted.

Kaso · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2017, 04:48:13 pm »

Quote from: GeorgeHill on August 16, 2017, 12:21:17 pm

The SIG 229 is the only semi auto handgun I would buy new for Carry.

I have a love/hate relationship with the P228 and P229. I have owned one of each, and while I loved both when I bought them, I ended up hating them both before the end. I have considered getting back into one or the other, but have always talked myself out of it. Now that I am looking to dump my Kareen... It may finally happen.

If I were to get a new production Sig... Legion. No question. The Legion series is what Sig should be making all of their P22x series into. Not cheap... But worth it.

MTK20 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2017, 08:28:54 pm »

A Sig P229 or Sig P228 being one of the best?

You mean, like the one I'm carrying right now?

*insert shameless, self congratulatory hair flip*

Owning a P228 is one of the best decisions that I ever made. I basically dumped my Glock the second I got this. I still can't like the .40 because of its snap. I wish they made something between 9mm and .45 acp that wasn't so jerky.

I've been contemplating getting a Sig P220 or P227 for quite some time now, but we'll just have to see what the future has in store. The K frame will probably be purchased first.

Hey, George. What are you carrying? Your FDE Sig P220, your SP101, or your Ruger GP100 match champion? You move too fast for me, I forget.

First Shirt · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2017, 09:40:56 pm »

Meh. I like the ones I've shot well enough, I suppose, but if I wanted a 9mm, I'd probably get a Browning P-35. Otherwise, it doesn't do anything (for me) that my 1911 won't do, and I like them better, because I'm more comfortable with them. (I should be, I first shot a 1911 back in 1963, starting with the one Grandpa "borrowed" from the Army in 1919.)

On the other hand, I'm enough of a gun monkey that if it doesn't work right out of the box, I've got no problem abusing it until it works the way I want it to work. So, "out-of-the-box" performance is not a disqualifier, if I otherwise like the gun. (The Boss will tell you that I have a Father Flanagan complex with firearms, i.e., it's not bad, it's just misunderstood! I can bring it around, really, I can!)

GeorgeHill · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2017, 10:30:46 pm »

Quote from: MTK20 on August 16, 2017, 08:28:54 pm

Hey, George. What are you carrying? Your FDE Sig P220, your SP101, or your Ruger GP100 match champion? You move too fast for me, I forget.

Mainly I've been sticking with the SP101 due to the size and punch it offers. That and it's hella-accurate. It was difficult to shoot well with, with the stock grips. But with Hogue Mono-Grips, it's pretty reasonable even with stout loads. I prefer 158 SJHP's in it.

MTK20 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2017, 10:37:49 pm »

Quote from: GeorgeHill on August 16, 2017, 10:30:46 pm

Mainly I've been sticking with the SP101 due to the size and punch it offers. That and it's hella-accurate. It was difficult to shoot well with, with the stock grips. But with Hogue Mono-Grips, it's pretty reasonable even with stout loads. I prefer 158 SJHP's in it.

Groovy

. They are rugged guns at an affordable price and nothing two legged would sneeze at 5 rounds of .357 magnum.

coelacanth · « **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2017, 10:49:24 pm »

Quote from: MTK20 on August 16, 2017, 08:28:54 pm

A Sig P229 or Sig P228 being one of the best?

You mean, like the one I'm carrying right now?

*insert shameless, self congratulatory hair flip*

Owning a P228 is one of the best decisions that I ever made. I basically dumped my Glock the second I got this. I still can't like the .40 because of its snap. I wish they made something between 9mm and .45 acp that wasn't so jerky.

I've been contemplating getting a Sig P220 or P227 for quite some time now, but we'll just have to see what the future has in store. The K frame will probably be purchased first.

Hey, George. What are you carrying? Your FDE Sig P220, your SP101, or your Ruger GP100 match champion? You move too fast for me, I forget.

Nice "selfie" . . .

MTK20 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 16, 2017, 11:05:23 pm »

Quote from: coelacanth on August 16, 2017, 10:49:24 pm

Nice "selfie" . . .

Psh, I only wish I was that pretty

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coelacanth · « **Reply #11 on:** August 16, 2017, 11:09:23 pm »

Kaso · « **Reply #12 on:** August 17, 2017, 07:53:08 am »

Quote from: coelacanth on August 16, 2017, 10:49:24 pm

Nice "selfie" . . .

I know, right? At least, I could see him looking like that.

First Shirt · « **Reply #13 on:** August 17, 2017, 09:46:36 am »

Ya'll ain't right! Really funny, but just not right!

MTK20 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 17, 2017, 10:17:53 am »

sqlbullet · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2017, 12:07:23 pm »

$629 for the 9mm version just popped up on /r/gundeals

http://www.theoutpostarmory.com/sig-sauer-p229-9mm-nit-blue-tit-15-1-sie29r9btf-1.html

Raptor · « **Reply #16 on:** August 17, 2017, 12:19:42 pm »

"All pistols should be this..."

Um, George? You spelled "GLOCK" wrong...

What? This is a gun forum. Somebody had to say it.

coelacanth · « **Reply #17 on:** August 17, 2017, 12:22:44 pm »

MTK20 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 17, 2017, 01:11:53 pm »

Quote from: Raptor on August 17, 2017, 12:19:42 pm

"All pistols should be this..."

Um, George? You spelled "GLOCK" wrong...

What? This is a gun forum. Somebody had to say it.

Glocks have no soul though.

The Sig is somehow modern and still retains vestiges of old world class.

Then again JY says that DA/SA handguns were never fighting handguns, so what do I know?

Raptor · « **Reply #19 on:** August 17, 2017, 01:24:37 pm »

That was me being snarky and sarcastic.

Remember, my first pistol was a P228 that I now very much regret letting go of. And IMO, JY is full of equine fecal matter.

MTK20 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 17, 2017, 02:14:09 pm »

Quote from: Raptor on August 17, 2017, 01:24:37 pm

That was me being snarky and sarcastic.

Remember, my first pistol was a P228 that I now very much regret letting go of. And IMO, JY is full of equine fecal matter.

I know you were being sarcastic, but my internal Glock and Sig fan boi's got into a brawl in my mind. So I had to spout exposition on why both are good in their own way. I also had to refer back to that JY video because I completely took the troll bait on it. He had to be trolling. No one can be that... *grumbles*

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Raptor · « **Reply #21 on:** August 17, 2017, 02:40:26 pm »

FWIW, they're nothing wrong with Glocks. They are the benchmark by which all others are judged for a reason, after all. My tastes just run more towards hammers and metal.

MTK20 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 17, 2017, 03:15:04 pm »

Quote from: Raptor on August 17, 2017, 02:40:26 pm

FWIW, they're nothing wrong with Glocks. They are the benchmark by which all others are judged for a reason, after all. My tastes just run more towards hammers and metal.

Agreed.

sqlbullet · « **Reply #23 on:** August 18, 2017, 09:58:35 pm »

Dang it, George.

I just stopped in Dougs Shootin' Sports to fondle a 229. Just to see how it felt in the hand.

Felt pretty nice. But, I like guns and I rarely find one I don't like.

Then I noticed they had a used one:

It came with a Galco hoster (meh) and a mag carrier. I could have resisted this just fine, except for one thing....

It already had a 357 Sig barrel in the package. Which meant it was fate right. I mean, George said this is what all guns should be, and that it should be a 40 + a 357 sig barrel. And here it was.

Now I gotta get to the range.

MTK20 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 18, 2017, 10:49:51 pm »

What's up with the front site? It looks way different than the one on my P228 or what I've seen on other P229's.