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Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
« Reply #100 on: October 09, 2015, 08:07:22 pm »
Unreliable 1911s? Maybe they are buying Kimber Ultras, using cheap mags to save money, and lubing them with Froglube.
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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #101 on: October 09, 2015, 08:12:45 pm »
    ^ :rotfl
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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #102 on: October 09, 2015, 09:01:44 pm »
    That's what I'd sell to a guy I didn't like.
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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #103 on: October 09, 2015, 09:19:04 pm »
    not a blinged out highpoint?

    No. That one he liked so much, he kept it himself  ;).
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #104 on: October 09, 2015, 11:32:43 pm »
    Don't judge.  It's fabulous.
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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #105 on: October 10, 2015, 06:12:37 am »
    My first pistol was a Springfield XD40. I still have it and shoot it every now and then. It's a good gun and I've never had a single issue with it. I used to have a Sig P229 at one time. I liked the gun, but I just couldn't shoot it well. Eventually I saw a Sig 1911 and decided to trade in the 229 towards the 1911 to try something different. I have never shot better with another pistol and the 1911 has also been perfectly reliable. To me, that is the point that really matters in a carry handgun. When you need to use it, can you maximize your chance of hitting a vital area with a wimpy pistol round?

    My XD40 carries four more rounds in the magazine and has essentially the same if not more energy behind each bullet but I am simply not as good with it. It feels slippery even when my hand is bone dry. The recoil is also much snappier, it's harder to get back on target as quickly, and the XD40 just doesn't point as naturally for me. My 1911 is the opposite. It just works for me and that's what I want: a pistol that I know I can use in a stressful situation or during a weekend IDPA match and it's my best chance to win. That's why I trust my life with a 1911.

    As an aside, Daniel Shaw seems like an awesome guy. Back in 2012 when I was in Lemoore learning to fly the Hornet, my wife was stationed down in San Diego. I had, at best, a 4.5 hour drive each way to see her every weekend and I needed something to break up the monotony. Radio in central California is...not good, so I would download podcasts and listen to those as I drove. I wanted to listen to something gun related and found Daniel's podcast and loved it. He was funny, humble, intelligent, and knowledgable. Plus, he's a fellow Marine, so I have to give him some love.

    Those podcasts helped make my weekends a little less painfull. Especially the ones where The Ogre joined him and talked guns and zombies. It was like I was the quiet part of a couple guys talking guns while just hanging out. When you get stuck in three hours of LA traffic at 8 o'clock on a Friday night and all you want is to see your wife, you need some pretty strong medicine to occupy your mind. So Ogre, here's my thanks to you and Daniel.
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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #106 on: October 12, 2015, 06:42:17 pm »
    Being a wheel gunner all my life the 1911 is the most comfortable and natural-pointing bottom feeder I've handled.

    My Kimber CDP II has been flawless for the 1000+ rounds I've put through it (Wilson mags). Now that I have my Adams Crossroads rig, it will be getting carried on a regular basis.
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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #107 on: October 17, 2015, 11:23:43 pm »
    This dude may be Brother Theresa of Beretta, but if he can't operate or effectively teach a 1911 safety, he is neither a shootist, nor an instructor.

    I served with Daniel for a number of years, and just recently got the pleasure of taking a class taught by him.  Vitals of Handgun 1 & 2.  Of all the cats (and one kitten) on the line, there were 3 Glocks, 1 P226, 1 VP9, 1 1911, and my Sig P938.

    Daniel took extra care to make sure that myself and the gentlemen (Chris was his name I believe) carrying the 1911 worked our skills with the safety.  He was able to relate to both of us, using two different terms and appealing to our different mindsets.

    Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I'm not jumping to Daniel's defense, because there is PLENTY that he and I don't agree on, when it comes to shooting and skill sets...but I would caution you not to totally dismiss a guy from a 5 min video where editing was done and I'm sure more than a decent amount of subject matter was discarded
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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #108 on: October 21, 2015, 02:37:51 pm »

    What say you?

    I spent a good bit of time shooting the 1911 when I was younger, but my .45 pistol of choice is the Glock 21... mainly because it fits my hand better than the 1911. I like the 1911 & I don't fault anyone for choosing it, but the G21 is the best choice for me.

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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #109 on: October 21, 2015, 03:02:09 pm »
    I am going to chime back in with a new perspective. 

    While I have had 1911s for almost 6 years, I have never really loved them.  The grip was okay, but not the best, and the trigger was doable.  Nothing really special, and I had a hard time understanding the fan boys.

    Lately, a new set of grips (rubber finger grooves) have had me reevaluating the grip profile, and just this week I finally got around to messing with the little screw in the trigger face, just to see what it did... 


    :o


    So that is the appeal...  :-[  I still don't plan to embrace the platform, but now I can at least understand what all the fuss is about.



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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #110 on: October 21, 2015, 03:24:11 pm »
    I am going to chime back in with a new perspective. 

    While I have had 1911s for almost 6 years, I have never really loved them.  The grip was okay, but not the best, and the trigger was doable.  Nothing really special, and I had a hard time understanding the fan boys.

    Lately, a new set of grips (rubber finger grooves) have had me reevaluating the grip profile, and just this week I finally got around to messing with the little screw in the trigger face, just to see what it did... 


    :o


    So that is the appeal...  :-[  I still don't plan to embrace the platform, but now I can at least understand what all the fuss is about.



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    The fact that you can do those two things is one of the appealing bits, sort of like an AR in the fact that you can make allot of changes pretty easily and change the way the gun runs and fits your hand.

    But a good 1911 trigger is something that I really enjoy;)

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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #111 on: October 21, 2015, 04:05:49 pm »
    The fact that you can do those two things is one of the appealing bits, sort of like an AR in the fact that you can make allot of changes pretty easily and change the way the gun runs and fits your hand.

    But a good 1911 trigger is something that I really enjoy;)

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    Yes, my only concern is that little screw being able to move under recoil.  I think loctite on the threads might be wise, especially for a defensive weapon.



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    « Reply #112 on: October 21, 2015, 04:15:27 pm »
    Yes, my only concern is that little screw being able to move under recoil.  I think loctite on the threads might be wise, especially for a defensive weapon.



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    That's the normal for defensive guns guys always recommend blue loctite or removing the takeup screw all together so that it's can't interfere.

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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #113 on: October 21, 2015, 04:24:26 pm »
    That's the normal for defensive guns guys always recommend blue loctite or removing the takeup screw all together so that it's can't interfere.

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    Didn't know that, but it makes sense.

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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #114 on: October 21, 2015, 04:44:21 pm »
    Well on the 1911 side of things there are a few in the in stock sale;) Though no Texas rigs like you normally get;)

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    « Reply #115 on: October 21, 2015, 05:20:08 pm »
    Well on the 1911 side of things there are a few in the in stock sale;) Though no Texas rigs like you normally get;)

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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #116 on: October 21, 2015, 05:21:42 pm »
    Owning a 1911 is like driving a car, it takes some adjustment.  Now before you guys start rolling your eyes, think about it.
    When you first sit down in a new or strange car, you have to adjust the seat, and the mirrors.  To get everything just so.  Some folks insist on all the bells and whistles: 6 way heated reclining bucket seats w/lumbar support, and motorized mirrors (the 1911).
    Then there's the Yugo (the Tupperware).  :neener
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    « Reply #117 on: October 21, 2015, 06:31:46 pm »
    No lamb, either.  Trust me, I already looked at the stocked items on your site.  :whistle


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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #118 on: October 21, 2015, 06:46:44 pm »
    I need a new holster for my commander. unfortunately none of the available ones are for the 4.25 inch commander...


    You just missed out, I had a leather lined Crossroads for a commander in stock but it went down the road at the gun show right before this sale;)

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    Re: 4 Reasons I don't trust a 1911 with my life
    « Reply #119 on: October 23, 2015, 03:25:54 pm »
    ...the trigger was doable.  Nothing really special...

    Lately, a new set of grips (rubber finger grooves) have had me reevaluating the grip profile, and just this week I finally got around to messing with the little screw in the trigger face, just to see what it did... 


    :o


    So that is the appeal...  :-[  I still don't plan to embrace the platform, but now I can at least understand what all the fuss is about.



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    There is nothing better than a proper 1911 trigger. Until we get electronic triggers, I cannot imagine a handgun with a better trigger than a well-tuned 1911.

    Yes, my only concern is that little screw being able to move under recoil.  I think loctite on the threads might be wise, especially for a defensive weapon.



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    I've got over 10k through one of my guns with the overtravel screw. No loctite, and no movement of the screw. And I have had some other screws on that gun back out and depart the frame after just a few hundred rounds.
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