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New grips
« on: October 14, 2020, 02:42:40 pm »
So, I've had this piece of birds-eye maple for a while.  Okay, about 40 years.   :facepalm

It wasn't a very large piece, so I didn't know for a long time what I wanted to do with.  Plus, while I always knew I had it, somewhere, I couldn't always remember where.  :banghead About five years ago I re-found it, and set it on the shelf above my reloading bench.  A couple of years ago I finally decided I wanted to make grips out of it, but I was pretty sure I'd only get one shot at it.  And then I had to decide what to put them on.  Finally settled on the Blackhawk.

So, about a month ago I made a set of grips for my Model 66 out of oak, as a proof of concept.  That worked pretty well, and they looked pretty good (for a first effort), but they didn't have enough curve to them front and back, so I re-sanded them down some more, including sanding out enough on the left panel to allow speedloaders.  The stain is still drying, so I won't be able to get pictures of those till this weekend. 

All in all, I think the maple ones turned out pretty good.
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #1 on: October 14, 2020, 10:41:43 pm »
    Nice work brother.  That wood is gorgeous.   :thumbup1
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #2 on: October 14, 2020, 11:18:01 pm »
    Thank you.  I thought I wanted a lighter stain, because the first pass with this stain on one of the cutoff pieces was really dark, but after I tested it on a flatter piece it looked better.  The grips are actually a matched set, from the same piece of maple, split down the middle on the chop saw.
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #3 on: October 16, 2020, 12:36:51 am »
    And here are the first ones I made.  Sorry, cell phone camera.
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #4 on: October 16, 2020, 01:43:17 pm »
    Trying from a different computer.  The left side picture simply would not upload from the laptop.
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #5 on: October 17, 2020, 12:08:00 am »
    Nice.  The grain on the oak looks nice.   :thumbup1    I've tinkered around with grip making a time or two in the past but I have no great talent for it. 
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #6 on: October 17, 2020, 01:43:13 am »
    The donor wood came from one of the four base pieces from a broken oak office chair.  Over an inch thick and about a foot long.  And, of course, curved.  That was the prettiest leg.  Can't see it in the pictures, but looking up at the bottom of the grips you can tell they were originally one piece of wood that was split in half.

    Talent?  Talk to Tin Can Bandit.  Me?  I'm just having fun.  My grandfathers were the carpenters.  I'm an accountant for a reason.  I can probably hurt myself on a paintbrush.
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #7 on: October 17, 2020, 02:05:23 am »
    I always got into trouble with the part that fills in the gap behind the trigger guard.  Trying to make an analog to the old Tyler's T-Grip adapter that was actually part of the grip panel(s).   :banghead
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #8 on: October 18, 2020, 12:19:37 am »
    I kept these (comparatively) simple.  The original target grips extended about 3/8" below the frame and about 1/4"' in front of the frame, and met in the middle.  That would have meant starting with about 5/8" thick pieces, then perfectly removing just the right amount from most of each grip so that they met in the middle.  Nope.  If that's what I wanted I could have simply sanded down the original grips (which were way too thick for my leprechaun hands).
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #9 on: October 18, 2020, 01:06:38 pm »
    Did you stabilize the wood, by any chance?

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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #10 on: October 19, 2020, 12:56:04 am »
     Both look good.  I want to make a set of Target grips, but would like to have a set before attempting.  What I really want is a set of the Ruger Match Champion grips for my N frames.
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #11 on: October 19, 2020, 01:41:01 pm »
    Stabilize?  Since I've no idea what you mean by that, I'd say probably not.  At least not on purpose.

    Okay, I looked it up.  Nope, definitely did not add any chemicals other than the coats of Watco Danish Oil (golden oak color) applied with 0000 steel wool.
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #12 on: October 19, 2020, 01:42:07 pm »
    And . . . .

    They both felt good while shooting.  Even shooting .357 Mag or .45 Colt rounds.

    I are happy. :)
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #13 on: October 19, 2020, 01:48:37 pm »
    Both look good.  I want to make a set of Target grips, but would like to have a set before attempting.  What I really want is a set of the Ruger Match Champion grips for my N frames.

    Wait.  What? 

    Ruger Match Champion grips for your S&W N Frames?
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #14 on: October 19, 2020, 10:55:22 pm »
    Wait.  What? 

    Ruger Match Champion grips for your S&W N Frames?

    I think they are fugly.  But they feel and point amazing in my hands.  I have decent grips on one of my N frames, but I have never been super happy with any of them.   Stock regular grips beat the hell out of my middle finger.  Houge rubber grips are just hideous.

    My L frame has owner modified grips, not by me, that are similar in shape to the Match Champion's and they are my favorite round gun grips that I own.  I have never seen factory rosewood grips so am not 100% on what they looked like unmodified.  I once looked at some similar custom grips, don't remember who made them, but they were 18 months out on orders and not taking new orders. 

    Ruger Match Champion is on the top of the revolver to buy list, so maybe one day I will try to recreate them for the N frame.
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #15 on: October 20, 2020, 09:13:17 am »
    Stabilize?  Since I've no idea what you mean by that, I'd say probably not.  At least not on purpose.

    Okay, I looked it up.  Nope, definitely did not add any chemicals other than the coats of Watco Danish Oil (golden oak color) applied with 0000 steel wool.

    If you know any knifemakers, you might ask them about throwing your grips in with a batch of scales, to get 'em stabilized.

    I'm seriously considering adding the capability, since I can also use the process for turning bowls.

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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #16 on: October 20, 2020, 11:32:55 am »
    I have only done the epoxy route for stabilizing some wood pieces. A heat cured resin doesn't seem much more difficult to do beyond needing an oven.
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #17 on: October 20, 2020, 11:35:58 am »
    Yeah, it's pretty easy, but there some additional hardware requirements, with the vacuum pump and chamber.

    Not worth doing for a one shot, but if you're planning on doing a lot, then...

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    « Reply #18 on: October 20, 2020, 11:03:09 pm »
    I know it ups the toughness game considerably.  Try caving a set of grips from stabilized blanks sometime to get the general idea.    :cool
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #19 on: October 21, 2020, 09:22:42 am »
    Yup. That's why he should do it now - he's got them shaped how he wants them.  Anything after now can be done with sandpaper for fine tuning (and I would really hate for those beautiful maple grips to warp!)

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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #20 on: October 22, 2020, 06:38:31 pm »
    You do realize that you're scaring me now, don't you?   :'(


    Yup. That's why he should do it now - he's got them shaped how he wants them.  Anything after now can be done with sandpaper for fine tuning (and I would really hate for those beautiful maple grips to warp!)
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #21 on: October 22, 2020, 09:55:57 pm »
    There's a considerable number of historic handguns that came equipped with oiled wooden grips from the factory and wore them for years without any significant problems.  Sometimes they were stained and varnished.  I guess the point is if the grips are well made, well fitted to the gun and properly secured they are likely to last quite a while.  Hard use and abuse will take its toll over time but I've seen guns treated like that where the metal parts were in worse shape than the wooden ones.   :shrug   Enjoy you handiwork and decide later if stabilization is something you're interested in doing.   :coffee
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    Re: New grips
    « Reply #22 on: October 23, 2020, 10:17:53 am »
    As C says, as long as you've finished the grips inside and out with a good penetrating oil, you should be fine.

    Lots of coats.

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