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YouTube video of man blasting couch with rifle shown at weapons trial
By Louise Dickson, Times ColonistJanuary 13, 2009

The showing of "AR-15 Makes Swiss Cheese Out of a Couch" is the first time the Crown in B.C. has used YouTube videos to prove a number of allegations, prosecutor Nils Jensen told Justice Robert Metzger in his opening statement. The video has been removed from YouTube.

Darcie Kate McNeill and Brian Lynn Morrison are charged with a number of prohibited and dangerous weapons offences. These include use of a prohibited weapon in a careless manner near Jordan River in 2007 and possession of a loaded Colt AR-15 rifle -- the equivalent of an M16 assault rifle -- without a licence or registration certificate. The offences are alleged to have taken place between Oct. 31 and Nov. 7, 2007.

McNeill, 29, and Morrison, 37, who is in custody, are also charged with possession of stolen property under $5,000.

McNeill and Morrison laughed several times as Jensen outlined the Crown's case.

Jensen, however, was not amused. "The accused Morrison is not a man who plays with toys. The weapons he uses are real and menacing," he said.

On Dec. 14, 2007, Victoria police raided a Collinson Street apartment where McNeill and Morrison lived, searching for drugs and weapons. Police seized four computers.

Const. Bob Elder, a computer forensics expert, found YouTube videos of Morrison using an AR-15 assault rifle on one laptop. Elder also found photographs of Morrison with the AR-15, a Mac-10 rifle and another weapon. One video, allegedly shot by McNeill, shows Morrison doing an infomercial with the Mac-10.

"He appears to be demonstrating it, talking about the silencer," said Jensen.

Elder, who testified yesterday afternoon, showed court a video titled "Emptying the AR-15 clip" which, according to the Crown, shows Morrison wearing a black baseball cap and camouflage clothing while firing off the assault rifle Rambo-style.

In "AR-15 Makes Swiss Cheese Out of a Couch," Morrison inspects an abandoned couch, in a wooded area near a logging road, for bullet holes. "It's so powerful it goes right through everything," he tells the camera.

After watching the video, police circulated information about the wooded area, the logging road and the abandoned couch. Victoria police Const. Mark Buerfeind took up the challenge of finding the area on his own time. Buerfeind, who is familiar with Island logging roads, looked around Jordan River and found the couch.

Soon after, Buerfeind returned to the area with forensic identification officer Jonathan Sheldan, who took samples of the couch and bullets from the trees. Sheldan also found an empty cartridge.

On Jan. 11, 2008, Victoria police searched a car outside Morrison's apartment and found a speaker box in the trunk.

"When they took the speakers out and the cotton batting out, lo and behold, there's an AR-15," said Jensen.

The speaker box can be seen in the background of homemade pornographic videos made by Morrison and McNeill, said the prosecutor.

"And that connects the accused to the weapon."

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    Messed up on so many levels.   (palmface icon)

    So powerful it will travel through a couch?  So stupid I'll put a video of myself breaking the law on the internet?  AR15 is the equivalent of an M16 assault rifle?  The rifle is "menacing"?

    I was going to say that the accused should argue they filmed the videos while visiting friends in the U.S., but having the AR15 found in their possession kind of queers that argument (in Canada, isn't mere possession of something unregistered, let alone an AR, some sort of crime?)

    More chlorine in the gene pool, please (for everyone involved, accused and the Inspector Clousseau who fearlessly hunted down these menacing killers).

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    See, this is why I jump at opportunities to scorn the Canadians I know.
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    so the moral of the story is don't make home made porn in the trunk of your car?
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    Leave it to Canada to do a weapons test on a couch. Those evil, violent couches

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    At no point in the article did it mention anyone who was hurt by these guys... or who was menaced or threatened by these guys.
    I think every guy I know out here has a AR in his truck.
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    Is Canada.  Even 6mm Airsoft is verbotten!  :cuss

    And apparently so is trunk porn.
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    I was going to say that the accused should argue they filmed the videos while visiting friends in the U.S., but having the AR15 found in their possession kind of queers that argument (in Canada, isn't mere possession of something unregistered, let alone an AR, some sort of crime?)


    In Canada there are three classes of firearms, each of which has different requirements for ownership, storage, transport, and use:

    1.  Prohibited (of which there are seven sub categories) - These must be registered by law and are generally unlawful to own or acquire by people who were not legally "grandfathered" to own them when the firearms became prohibited.  There are exceptions, but that is an even more complicated subject to discuss.  Prohibited firearms differ from prohibited weapons and prohibited devices as well in that they have different legal descriptions - again, complicated to discuss.  Among other things, full auto guns, converted autos, many semi-auto rifles, and short barreled or small caliber handguns fall into this class.

    2.  Restricted - In general, most handguns and other stuff like semi-auto carbines.  The AR15 falls into this class.

    3.  Non-restricted - Typical hunting and sporting long arms.

    If a person doesn't have a license for the class of firearm they have in their possession, they are breaking the law.  Additionally, even if they have such a license, if it is a Prohibited or Restricted firearm, it must also be registered (there is currently an amnesty on unregistered Non-restricted firearms).

    The guys in the youtube video broke Canadian law in the following ways, if I have the facts straight:

    - possessed an unregistered AR15, which can also be considered possession of a prohibited firearm because they also did not have a license to possess that class of firearm.

    - possessed a prohibited device, the magazine for the AR15, which apparently had greater than legal capacity.

    - discharged the AR15 at a location other than an approved range, which is illegal for a restricted firearm.

    I may not necessarily approve of the law, but they broke it, and they were stupid enough to video tape themselves doing it.
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    Thats true, Sean... they did break the law.
    I wonder if Canada has Jury Nullification.
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    Thats true, Sean... they did break the law. I wonder if Canada has Jury Nullification.

    Prerequisite for that is a lucid, thinking jury.  This IS, after all, Canada we're talking about.

    When they say "Jury of your peers," it means a bunch of random dudes from the street are going to urinate on you.
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    Re: YouTube video of blasting couch with rifle shown at Canadian weapons trial
    « Reply #10 on: January 14, 2009, 03:32:48 pm »
    We do, but I have never heard of it happening.  For the most part, the Crown will successfully use their options during jury selection to avoid such a situation, I think.
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    Re: YouTube video of blasting couch with rifle shown at Canadian weapons trial
    « Reply #11 on: January 14, 2009, 03:50:57 pm »
    We do, but I have never heard of it happening.  For the most part, the Crown will successfully use their options during jury selection to avoid such a situation, I think.

    Even in Florida (the "gunshine state") I would hate to depend on a typical jury to nullify things.  (I served on an attempted murder jury trial a few months back and it was an ... interesting experience.)  Between a typical juror's ignorance of firearms and the law, and downright poisoned attitudes towards firearms and their owners... yeow.

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    Re: YouTube video of blasting couch with rifle shown at Canadian weapons trial
    « Reply #12 on: January 15, 2009, 05:18:16 am »
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    On Dec. 14, 2007, Victoria police raided a Collinson Street apartment where McNeill and Morrison lived, searching for drugs and weapons. Police seized four computers.

    Const. Bob Elder, a computer forensics expert, found YouTube videos of Morrison using an AR-15 assault rifle on one laptop. Elder also found photographs of Morrison with the AR-15, a Mac-10 rifle and another weapon. One video, allegedly shot by McNeill, shows Morrison doing an infomercial with the Mac-10.

    Apparently this guy doesn't realize that he didn't need to seize the computers to find the YOUTUBE videos.  he could have done it from the comfort of his own home.
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    Re: YouTube video of blasting couch with rifle shown at Canadian weapons trial
    « Reply #13 on: January 15, 2009, 06:41:19 am »
    This article would be funny if I didn't know they were actually serious....  and that many others reading it will end up taking it serious also.   :(

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