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You know, I really don't want to go back to college.
« on: February 26, 2014, 01:47:45 pm »
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/371625/attacking-diversity-thought-jonah-goldberg

Cancel the philosophy courses, people. Oh, and we’re going to be shuttering the political science, religion, and pre-law departments too. We’ll keep some of the English and history folks on for a while longer, but they should probably keep their résumés handy.

Because, you see, they are of no use anymore. We have the answers to the big questions, so why keep pretending there’s anything left to discuss?

At least that’s where Erin Ching, a student at Swarthmore College, seems to be coming down. Her school invited a famous left-wing Princeton professor, Cornel West, and a famous right-wing Princeton professor, Robert George, to have a debate. The two men are friends, and by all accounts they had an utterly civil exchange of ideas. But that only made the whole thing even more outrageous.

“What really bothered me is, the whole idea is that at a liberal arts college, we need to be hearing a diversity of opinion,” Ching told the Daily Gazette, the school’s newspaper. “I don’t think we should be tolerating [George’s] conservative views because that dominant culture embeds these deep inequalities in our society.”

Swarthmore must be so proud.

Over at Harvard, another young lady has similar views. Harvard Crimson editorial writer Sandra Y. L. Korn recently called for getting rid of academic freedom in favor of something called “academic justice.”

“If our university community opposes racism, sexism, and heterosexism, why should we put up with research that counters our goals simply in the name of ‘academic freedom’?” Korn asks.

Helpfully, she answers her own question: “When an academic community observes research promoting or justifying oppression, it should ensure that this research does not continue.”

One could easily dismiss these students as part of that long and glorious American tradition of smart young people saying stupid things. As Oscar Wilde remarked, “In America the young are always ready to give to those who are older than themselves the full benefits of their inexperience.”

But we all know that this nonsense didn’t spring ex nihilo from their imaginations. As Allan Bloom showed a quarter century ago in The Closing of the American Mind, these ideas are taught.

Indeed, we are now up to our knees in this Orwellian bilge. Diversity means conformity.

Let me invoke personal privilege by citing a slightly dated example. When the Los Angeles Times picked me up as a columnist in 2005, Barbra Streisand publicly canceled her subscription in protest (I’m proud to say). You see, Streisand’s friend, iconic left-wing columnist Robert Scheer, had been let go. And I was one of the new columnists brought on board. This was an outrage.

“The greater Southern California community is one that not only proudly embraces its diversity, but demands it,” Streisand wrote to the Times in a syntactically impaired rant that read a bit like one of those letters I occasionally get from prison inmates who’ve memorized words from a thesaurus without fully understanding what they mean. “Your publisher’s decision to fire Robert Scheer is a great disservice to the spirit of our community. . . . So although the number of contributors to your op-ed pages may have increased, in firing Robert Sheer [sic] and putting Jonah Goldberg in his place, the gamut of voices has undeniably been diluted.”

Nearly a decade later, I still don’t know what it means to dilute a gamut of voices. But I do know what she meant by “diversity.” It means: “people who agree with me.” It’s lazy and insipid shorthand for “left wing.” After all, by the normal metrics of identity politics — race, religion, gender — Scheer and I are largely interchangeable. Where we differ is ideology. And ideological diversity is the only kind of diversity the Left finds offensive.

Which brings us back to the sages of Swarthmore and Harvard. They at least understand that ideological diversity is actually, like, you know, a thing. They just think it’s a bad thing.

More pernicious, however, is that they believe the question of justice is a settled matter. We know what justice is, so why let serious people debate it anymore? The millennia-old dialogue between Aristotle, Plato, St. Augustine, Aquinas, Machiavelli, Rawls, Rorty, Hayek et al.? Shut it down, people. Or at least if the conversation heads in a direction where the Korns, Chings, and Streisands smell “oppression” — as defined solely by the Left — then it must not be “put up with.” Diversity demands that diversity of opinion not be tolerated anymore.

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    « Reply #1 on: February 26, 2014, 01:59:48 pm »
    And most likely the self esteem of those who would seek to share their inexperience with you.   :cool    A dinosaur you may be, but allosaurus is not to be f#$%ed with should you encounter him.   ;)
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    « Reply #2 on: February 26, 2014, 04:23:25 pm »
    College is just like anywhere else in the world. It is full of stupid people.

    I do agree with article saying we should get rid of a ton of the Liberal Arts. You just keep the history and logic folks from there and ditch the rest of the hippy bastards.
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    « Reply #3 on: February 26, 2014, 06:14:18 pm »
    Logic should be a prerequisite for admission to college.  Get rid of all the "Studies" classes and majors.  All the soft science degrees need to get at least a C in statistics and probabilities before starting any of their majors' classes.


    Yeah, I wouldn't make it into my alma mater, let alone make it through a semester before I offended some hippy dippy student or professor enough to get suspended.
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    « Reply #4 on: February 26, 2014, 09:33:19 pm »
    I would suggest dropping political science, except for the rampant misunderstanding and incorrect definitions that get thrown around by people who think they know politics.  Pick just about any political discussion on the internet, and half the time it's like someone talking about how they loaded a .44 magnum clip in their assault Glock. 

    For that reason, I like having it around, though I think the major would probably be better to be reshaped towards a law school/civil service prep.

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    « Reply #5 on: February 26, 2014, 09:51:57 pm »
    There is one good reason to keep Liberal Arts. Toilet paper

    Every Liberal Arts building on every campus I have been to has super nice TP in their bathrooms. When I was at OSU. I used to load my backpack with the good TP from the Liberal Arts building to take back to the agricultural building.  :D
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    « Reply #6 on: February 26, 2014, 09:58:20 pm »
    If you didn't have to fund the liberal arts college you'd have enough money for everybody to get the good stuff.   ;)
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    « Reply #7 on: February 26, 2014, 10:02:22 pm »
    I think I would go to a Tech school if I had to go back school.  I have thought about a Masters in Political History, but don't think I could handle having another useless degree.  I love using my Poli Sci degree on the helpless collage students who call doing political polling.  Those poor kids hate me.

    Back on topic, I hate the fact that political correctness has become law on most campuses.  There appears to be zero tolerance for dissenting ideas at collages today.  I went to a Christian Liberal Arts collage, that was quite liberal philosophically.  That said, I did not have any issues with bucking the liberal trends.  I graduated in '97. 

    A friend of mine graduated from Swarthmore in '97, he was the treasurer for the Young Republican club on campus.  I think he said they had 26 or 27 members.  His sister who went there also, came out a flaming liberal.  She was on track to be a genetics scientist.  So no soft classes for her. 
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    « Reply #8 on: February 26, 2014, 10:11:14 pm »
    Got a BA in information Mm management when I was 42.... something about you getting older and college girls staying the same age comes to mind...

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    « Reply #9 on: February 26, 2014, 10:13:42 pm »
    Got a BA in information Mm management when I was 42.... something about you getting older and college girls staying the same age comes to mind...

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    « Reply #10 on: February 26, 2014, 10:15:00 pm »
    Hey I'm only talking about window shopping

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    « Reply #11 on: February 26, 2014, 10:49:53 pm »
    /SNIP
    Back on topic, I hate the fact that political correctness has become law on most campuses.  There appears to be zero tolerance for dissenting ideas at collages today.  I went to a Christian Liberal Arts collage, that was quite liberal philosophically.  That said, I did not have any issues with bucking the liberal trends.  I graduated in '97.
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    The PC stuff is really hard to deal with on most campuses. I had to bite my tongue many times in my 'environmental science' class needed for me to complete my doctorate. The professor basically gave up on completing the riparian habitat chapter. The assistant was at least a good guy and went to the dean to get permission to basically exclude much of the pure s___e that chapter tried to lay off as fact.   
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