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Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
« on: August 04, 2013, 01:01:06 pm »
Like the author, I have never heard of such wimpy tucking tail like this before. Sickening.



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Why the Recent Threat Against US Embassies is BS


By Kerry Patton
 
How many US Embassies have closed for business over the years? How many all at once? Never have I heard of twenty plus Embassies and or Consulates shut down for business before all at once. But according to many, some cacamooca threat exists which has concerned the US State Department enough to shut down a plethora of overseas operations.
 
Let me be the first to say in no time has any Embassy or Consulate not been under some type of threat. Someone, somewhere, wishes to cause harm and mayhem to the United States and while a few may believe our Embassies and Consulates are secured facilities, they are not.
 
So, claiming some threat exists is a no brainer. Of course a threat exists. Threats always exist.
 
Now, to claim the United States has “actionable intelligence” which has authorized some decision maker at the highest of State Department echelons to shut down twenty-plus Embassies is nonsense. Let me explain.
 
First, all threats are tactical. This means that all threats come from a specific location on the ground. No threat, let me repeat that one, NO THREAT is strategic in nature. Why is this important to understand? Because if a threat truly existed, and “actionable intelligence” determined such a threat existed, we would know the approximate location of such a threat.
 
So why from West Africa, throughout the Maghreb, across the Middle East, through the Levant, and into Central Asia have we decided to close so many Embassies and Consulates?
 
Forget that for a second and let’s look more at “threat matrixes.”
 
Just for the record….I am not Edward Snowden nor am I Bradley Manning so if you’re looking for me to give away state secrets, forget about it….
 
As intelligence gets collected, analysts work diligently to find what are known as “gaps.” These gaps create what are known as Priority Intelligence Requirements (PIRs) which result in loads and loads of Requests for Information (RFI’s).
 
What are PIRs?
 
The identification, prioritization, and refinement of uncertainties concerning the threat and the battlefield environment that a command must resolve to accomplish its mission. What this means is very simple. If a threat is considered existent, people need to get off their asses and start doing a s___load of homework to better understand and formulate strategies to counter such.
 
This brings me to my next point—Courses of Action (COA) or Contingency Operation Plans (COOPs).
 
In no way in hell should anyone with any form of authority allow a primary mission to stop simply because the boogie man is knocking at your door. Such authorities need to create secondary missions to collect, understand, and destroy threats.
 
We don’t expect our military to simply shut down because a squad or platoon took a punch to the face resulting in some bloody noses. We wouldn’t expect our CIA to do the same. And, we sure as hell should not expect our State Department to act like a bunch of pansy ass cowards which completely negates our nation’s reputation as the world’s number one superpower by shutting down so many embassies.
 
Simply put, if a threat truly does exist which is a credible threat coming from actionable intelligence (mind you, I obviously believe none of the sort exists right now per the claims being made by our State Department), we need to find that threat and eliminate it! Acting like a bunch of scared ostriches is no way to do business but that is exactly what we are doing as a nation when it comes to US National Security and Foreign Policy.
 
Now you watch, within 24 hours, Al Qaeda will attack a US Embassy or Consulate just to prove me wrong….Bastards!
 
Kerry Patton is the author of Contracted: America’s Secret Warriors.
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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #1 on: August 04, 2013, 01:15:23 pm »
    It's a "damned if you do/damned if you don't" scenario.

    If there's a credible threat, and they don't do something, they get yelled at for not reacting. They do do something, they get yelled at.

    Fluffing politicos.

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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #2 on: August 04, 2013, 01:28:56 pm »
    Aren't embassies in these parts of the world always under threat?   It's the Middle East and Africa,  nothing good ever happens there.   
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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #3 on: August 04, 2013, 01:54:46 pm »
    It's a "damned if you do/damned if you don't" scenario.

    If there's a credible threat, and they don't do something, they get yelled at for not reacting. They do do something, they get yelled at.

    Fluffing politicos.
    I'm sorry, but the purpose of terrorism is to create terror.  To disrupt our way of life.  And they have.  Without even having to attack us, just by implying that they might.

    The proper response is to NOT give in, to NOT back down.  And if an attack does occur?  Then we don't bow down and apologize for being great... we track down whoever is responsible, and we level their entire village.

    The problem here is our top level leadership.  If Obama was threatened with being raped, his first response would be to go out and buy lube.  :facepalm  How do you think Tywin Lannister would respond?  That's the type of leader we need.



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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #4 on: August 04, 2013, 03:11:26 pm »
    Really, Kaso? You think someone who executes political rivals to consolidate power is a good idea?

    No thanks.



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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #5 on: August 04, 2013, 03:13:28 pm »
    Really, Kaso? You think someone who executes political rivals to consolidate power is a good idea?

    No thanks.
    I'm thinking more of one who is feared, because he 'pays his debts.'

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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2013, 03:33:34 pm »
    Back to the subject at hand...  Fear is the only universal motivator.  It's the only one that the Arabs understand.  The only prudent way to respond to their threats, is with counter-threats... even if those threats are not spoken, but only implied. (ie, if a carrier shows up off of their coast, we don't neccessarily need to tell them what we mean to do)

    Giving the rapist 'what he wants' is never, ever, EVER the best way to avoid getting hurt.  Pointing a gun at his chest and threatening to shoot is much more effective.  He might still try to call your bluff... the key word there is 'try.'  >:D


    Replace 'rapist' with 'Islamist,' and 'gun' with 'airstrike.'



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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #7 on: August 04, 2013, 04:01:31 pm »
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    It's a "damned if you do/damned if you don't" scenario.

    If there's a credible threat, and they don't do something, they get yelled at for not reacting. They do do something, they get yelled at.

    Fluffing politicos.
    The problem is that all "somethings" are not created equal. Beefing up security in response to a theat that fails to materialize? I think most people would understand this. Closing up shop for a couple of days due to a "threat" is a lot less acceptable to most people.

    The real question has already been asked. This is Africa and the Maghreb. Every US asset there is under threat. Unless you're expecting assault from an entire infantry company, resources should already be allocated and ready to deal with this. I don't care which party holds the White House, if your diplomatic missions are not ready to repel a Benghazi-style attack- or at least hold on until pre-positioned assets can move in to support- you're doing it wrong.

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    « Reply #8 on: August 04, 2013, 04:19:50 pm »
      Of course we see this response to the stated threat as being wrong, because it is.

      But for the present administration, whose goal it it to weaken the US in all affairs, domestic, transnational and international, this is the right thing to do.
     
      Why? Because it does weaken us. Remember, Barack Mugabe has the goal of keeping the people divided, the country fractured, the economy unsustainable and our foreign policy laughable, so that we become weakened to the point that we're no longer an effective opposition to his Communist International brethren. Instead, we join them.

      Obama wants only to destroy the US as we know it and rebuild it as a Communist Utopia. It's my fear, that because of him and many of the other elected and appointed leaders of this country who've allowed themselves to be compromised, that the US might end up being on the wrong side of history in the next big war.
     
      There is perhaps only 3-5 Senators and 15-25 Representatives who still have the people's best interests at hand.
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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #9 on: August 04, 2013, 04:43:45 pm »
    How do you think Tywin Lannister would respond?

    Order his men to rape his daughter-in-law?
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    « Reply #10 on: August 04, 2013, 05:04:22 pm »
      Of course we see this response to the stated threat as being wrong, because it is.

      But for the present administration, whose goal it it to weaken the US in all affairs, domestic, transnational and international, this is the right thing to do.
     
      Why? Because it does weaken us. Remember, Barack Mugabe has the goal of keeping the people divided, the country fractured, the economy unsustainable and our foreign policy laughable, so that we become weakened to the point that we're no longer an effective opposition to his Communist International brethren. Instead, we join them.

      Obama wants only to destroy the US as we know it and rebuild it as a Communist Utopia. It's my fear, that because of him and many of the other elected and appointed leaders of this country who've allowed themselves to be compromised, that the US might end up being on the wrong side of history in the next big war.
     
      There is perhaps only 3-5 Senators and 15-25 Representatives who still have the people's best interests at hand.

    My thoughts exactly. Mugabe. Very fitting. Without the 2A and the threat it is to him, he would go Mugabe indeed.
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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #11 on: August 04, 2013, 05:37:27 pm »
    I fully expect an announcement(s) showing "evidence" that this "credible threat" was ONLY uncovered through the current NSA data collection effort
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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #12 on: August 04, 2013, 06:50:33 pm »
    Her is an alternate theory:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/08/world_war_iii.html

    A lot of could, would, and maybe but it does make sense in the light of recent events.
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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #13 on: August 04, 2013, 09:38:58 pm »
       Okay so a thought just went through my mind......Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham are going to Cairo tomorrow, it's been talked about on every news outlet for a couple of weeks now...could it be that they are the targets, or are one of several targets?
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    « Reply #14 on: August 04, 2013, 10:50:20 pm »
    I fully expect an announcement(s) showing "evidence" that this "credible threat" was ONLY uncovered through the current NSA data collection effort
    I think its fair to say that this latest "crisis" is not occurring in a vacuum.  In the wake of the Benghazi mess and all the other scandals swirling around this administration like a cloud of blowflies they are looking for anything that will replace them on the cable news shows.

    This entire story could turn out to be as contrived and manipulated as the story surrounding the Benghazi attack.   What other nations are responding to this "actionable intelligence" in the same way?    :scrutiny
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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #15 on: August 06, 2013, 02:51:31 am »
    This situation may be a political exaggeration.  There has been some uproar after the intelligence leaks.  Got to justify those programs.   :banghead

    I've heard that NSA is constructing a huge building for data storage in Utah and that its power consumption will match Salt Lake City's.  Spending the country into oblivion, in part to fight terrorism, may be more destructive down the line.

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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #17 on: August 06, 2013, 10:43:24 am »
    I think it was because we were about to smack the hornets nest with a stick:

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/05/world/yemen-us-drone-strike/index.html

     :shrug I get a very wag the dog feeling about this, course these days I'm not sure what's actually real when it comes to the .gov and their doings.

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    « Reply #18 on: August 06, 2013, 10:49:11 am »
    This situation may be a political exaggeration.  There has been some uproar after the intelligence leaks.  Got to justify those programs.   :banghead


    I've heard a lot of people saying that lately, and it certainly would be in character for this Admin.

    And here's another take to add to the mix:

    http://www.libertylawsite.org/2013/08/04/manipulating-the-u-s-intelligence-community-it-shouldnt-be-this-easy/

    Like the author, I have never heard of such wimpy tucking tail like this before. Sickening.



    Just as you said -- now, this makes it look even more like full-on retreat:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/08/despite-major-terror-threat-obama-withdraws-special-elite-forces-from-italy-back-to-spain-video/
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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #19 on: August 07, 2013, 11:02:47 am »

    and if you have 3 layers of foil:
    http://www.eutimes.net/2013/08/switzerland-warning-against-obama-regime-stuns-russia/comment-page-1/

    Dang, that's some of the most tin foily tin foil I've seen in a long time.

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    « Reply #21 on: August 07, 2013, 12:11:54 pm »
    Closing the Alamo -- now that's funny :rotfl:
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    « Reply #22 on: August 07, 2013, 02:48:51 pm »
    I'm starting to lean toward the idea that the "there's been lots of chatter" excuse is to justify the NSA snooping program
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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #23 on: August 07, 2013, 03:39:26 pm »
    I believe the Constitution is an inspired document, when government acts outside of it, such may bring more unwise scenarios for the people than previous considered.  Evil can't withstand the light of day. 

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    Re: Why the recent threat against US embassies is BS
    « Reply #24 on: August 10, 2013, 01:26:07 am »
       Okay so a thought just went through my mind......Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham are going to Cairo tomorrow, it's been talked about on every news outlet for a couple of weeks now...could it be that they are the targets, or are one of several targets?
      I've been OOT (Out of Town) for a few days, so I'm also out of touch....Okay I guess they're OK, so it wasn't them that were painted as tgts. Yeah I'd say it's all BS....
       Oh No, wait, I heard today that the US Embassy in Pakiland has just closed, so I guess the NSA's PRISM program IS working, so please, let's just go ahead and let Uncle Sugar continue with PRISM program, it's for the children.
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