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Re: What did you do this weekend?
« Reply #500 on: September 22, 2018, 10:39:02 pm »
Raptor,

My apologies for any stress my range report may have caused to your psyche or pocketbook. ;)

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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #501 on: September 23, 2018, 12:47:06 pm »
    My son is looking for a compact pistol in anticipation of getting his CCW in the next month or so.  I, being the dutiful father and all-around awesome guy that I am, volunteered to accompany him to the gunshow today and offer all the unsolicited advice he could handle. ::)
    If I could share some unsolicited advice: I was at the local gun pusher last week, and they have a case dedicated to used pistols.  I noted to the merchant of death helping me, that the vast majority were mid-size to upper-mid sized pistols.  Sig P229, HK P2000, commander 1911s, and the like. His response was that I was correct, and that 'most guys think they will conceal a lot better than they do.'

    Of course, holster, belt, etc., but I would encourage your son to 'start small,' with his first CCW - or at least not big - and get him into the habit of all day/every day carry.  Then once he is, try a more effective gun that will require more dressing around.

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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #502 on: September 23, 2018, 01:51:46 pm »
    Good advice, IMO.   Carrying a handgun all day, every day requires some unavoidable changes in your thinking and your behavior and likely your wardrobe and equipment before its all said and done.  Finding a pistol that can be shot well, carried discreetly and capable of delivering acceptable terminal ballistics can be a daunting task. 

     A son is fortunate to have a father who is knowledgeable, experienced and willing to help him through this process.   :thumbup1

    And for the record, I didn't assume I was being ignored.  In any event, I've been married for quite a while so I'm somewhat familiar with the experience.   :cool

    Which brings me to what I did this week-end.  Yesterday Mrs. c and I celebrated our umpteenth wedding anniversary and went out to dinner at the local comida Mexicana.  Mui beuno, amigos.   :thumbup1 

     I also picked up a copy of Dr. Jordan B. Peterson's new book, "12 Rules For Life : An Antidote To Chaos".   If you have not read this - do so.  Even if you are familiar with Dr. Peterson through his internet video lectures, interviews and encounters with angry protesters the book itself is an eye opener.  It is written in much the same easy going style that his lecture format employs and there have been more than a few grins so far at his unique insights and phraseology.  I highly recommend it. :thumbup1 
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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #503 on: September 23, 2018, 02:26:47 pm »
    Raptor,

    My apologies for any stress my range report may have caused to your psyche or pocketbook. ;)

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    No worries. Haven't seen one in the wild yet, and even if I did it'd be at the bottom of my "buy" list.

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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #504 on: September 23, 2018, 03:13:20 pm »
    The boy is leaning toward a subcompact like the Shield or a PPS, but would consider a compact if necessary.  He just couldn't make up his mind and commit to a purchase.  I think it's a combination of cost and the fear of making a bad pick.  It seems to me he's afraid of choosing something expensive that he'll regret later.

    I can empathize, I suppose. This is only his second "big boy" decision when it comes to guns after his AR and funds are limited for a young man.  It's kind of a big deal to him and he wants to get it right, whatever that will mean for him.  So, I try to be patient, offer advice, facilitate his shopping trips, present options for consideration, and remind myself that he's an adult now and he has to choose for himself.
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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #505 on: September 23, 2018, 03:42:57 pm »
    Fair enough.  Some lessons are best learned by experience.  Maybe Luke Adams has some suggestions re: holster fit and concealability based on your son's build and gun preferences.   :hmm   
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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #506 on: September 23, 2018, 04:41:26 pm »
    Give me his height weight and mode of dress along with firearms experience and I can give you a few ideas what I'd recommend and what type of rig will likely work for him.

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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #507 on: September 23, 2018, 05:05:40 pm »
    Thanks, Luke.

    He'll be over tonight for dinner.  I'll see what I can find out. :thumbup1
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    « Reply #508 on: September 23, 2018, 05:42:04 pm »
    Not a problem ;)

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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #509 on: September 23, 2018, 06:01:21 pm »
    The boy is leaning toward a subcompact like the Shield or a PPS...
    Both are good guns.  I mentioned in another thread, have him try to find a range that rents, or friend who owns the guns in question.  My personal experience with a PPSm2 is that the grip geometry and my hand shape do not agree very well, and a crushing grip (aka a firing grip for a mouse gun) causes the gun to tip forward and not allow a good sight picture.  Hard to catch in a store, but much easier on the range. 

    Especially with a subcompact, knowing how it will behave 'in your hands' is vital.
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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #510 on: September 23, 2018, 06:07:40 pm »
    He actually has rented the PPS.  I'm not sure if he has shot the Shield yet.  His coworker has one and that's what first made him consider it.
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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #511 on: September 23, 2018, 07:50:08 pm »
    Luke,

    Son number one is about 5' 7", 165lbs, and has a 32" waist.  He has shot various full size pistols and a few smaller ones if that's what you mean by experience.

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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #512 on: September 23, 2018, 08:19:26 pm »
    What's his goal primarily concealment? Daily carry? Occasional?

    And what mode of dress IE jeans and a t-shirt, suit etc?

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    « Reply #513 on: September 23, 2018, 08:21:55 pm »
    He would prefer to start daily carry.  His typical dress is jeans and t-shirt.
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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #514 on: September 23, 2018, 08:30:46 pm »
    If that were me in his position I'd stick with something the size of the LC9/Shield/Glock43 range of guns possibly the Sig 365 anything that size that he likes the feel of is likely a fine choice pending it's reliable even the PF9 isn't something I'd ignore(I've had good luck with mine over the years, and it's still my only gun that will feed empty cases from a magazine). Then likely a single mag weak side since capacity isn't a strong suit, and actually if it were me I'd lean towards the single stacks of the LC9/PF9 and less towards the 1.5 stack of the Shield and thicker mag of the g43. The single stacks are almost non existent in an IWB setup and make them so much easier to carry.

    Rig wise again if it were me I can tell ya what I'm wearing tonight which is my PF9 in a Texas with a Switchback single mag carrier weak side. Only reason was I had to run to town for my mother in laws birthday earlier and just was honestly lazy and wanted something that requires zero work to carry and conceal. Adding to that I lifted my water softener tank last night and my back is less than happy about it;)

    Now alternatively if I didn't make holsters, I'd be looking at possibly a hybrid holster of the same size though stick with something not too expensive. On the mag carrier I don't have a good recommendation, the vast majority just aren't very conducive to being comfortable IWB, probably OWB if he needed to go cheap and likely a simple clip style affair is the best approach.

    I can say this though based on my own experiences, mostly designing bad holsters that people will never see;) I've designed some IWB versions for the PF9 which is immensely easy to carry in a Texas that are incredibly hard to carry comfortably. So all rigs aren't created equal in that sense, and if he does decide to go cheaper or faster etc, feel free to send me a PM for a critique of the rig and whether it looks like it's worth the cash or has any serious issues I can see or know about. I try not to criticize other holsters but if guys want a no BS assessment from my perspective I don't mind giving it, I just don't want anyone to think I'm pushing my own agenda. I do think my rigs carry well, they aren't the only option, but I've also spent ALLOT of time looking at what is out there;)

    Take care!

    Luke

    EDIT: I also should mention I see this as a "First" gun of sorts, for carry. It covers the bases gives him something that just works. Then if he wants a full size or something larger with more capacity he's got an option to fall back on. His size though is likely to be the biggest trouble with carrying larger guns, they might require more compromises on the clothing as well as the size of the gun. For instance I suspect a 3.5in or 4.25in 1911 would be a much better fit than a 5in. for his size. Just the facts of size and size of the gun, guys carry guns bigger than they need to at times, I'm guilty of it. But the size of the person is going to play a role in what is easy to carry and conceal;) So a smaller single stack is a great way to know you can carry whenever, then you can run something bigger if things work out. Like winter weather and heavier clothing etc, but that PF9 sized gun should be good to go in shorts and a t-shirt all the way up to heavier clothing so it's the broad approach;)
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    Re: What did you do this weekend?
    « Reply #515 on: September 23, 2018, 08:48:44 pm »
    Luke,

    Thanks for the advice.  I am passing it on to him now. I appreciate the help.

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    « Reply #516 on: September 23, 2018, 08:49:39 pm »
    Not a problem at all, more than happy to help and if he needs advice on other rigs either pass him my info email or whatever is easier or feel free to give me a shout;)

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    « Reply #517 on: September 23, 2018, 08:51:46 pm »
    Will do. :thumbup1
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    « Reply #518 on: September 24, 2018, 09:36:26 am »
    Two weekends ago, I chiseled out the concrete around one of the spots in the basement wall showing signs of having leaked in the past, to about an inch deep.

    Last weekend, I epoxied the crack and other suspicious spots.

    This weekend:
    Saturday applied hydraulic cement to hole, and filled in the gaps around the sewer line leaving the house and the water main coming in.

    Yesterday, I demolished/carefully dismantled (depending on how close I was to the AC ductwork) the now superfluous wall under the beam, now supported by the column.

    I also removed an extremely non-code copper tubing run* supplying gas(!!) to the laundry room.  However, I may have torqued something in the ugly mishmash assembly while getting that off, as I now smell gas after opening the shut-off valve to the furnace.  I called AC company, they're sending a tech out. There's a limit to what I'm willing to fluff with, and that skirts it.

    *The part about this that burns me (pun intended) is that, whoever ran the line cared enough to make it *look* right from above, but not enough to *do* it right.  It was iron pipe at the furnace and the part passing through the floor, but copper between the two.  The elbow fittings at both ends were fully brown with rust.
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    « Reply #519 on: September 24, 2018, 02:15:22 pm »
    Nukmed, I have shields in both 9mm and 45 ACP.  When you come over to brag about your Archon B and P10C, bring number 1 son and he can fondle my shields.
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    « Reply #520 on: September 24, 2018, 03:19:27 pm »
    Nukmed, I have shields in both 9mm and 45 ACP.  When you come over to brag about your Archon B and P10C, bring number 1 son and he can fondle my shields.

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    « Reply #521 on: September 24, 2018, 06:05:15 pm »
    Dang, for a minute there I thought that was a video of an ANTIFA rally .   .   .     :scrutiny
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    « Reply #522 on: September 24, 2018, 06:08:34 pm »
    Dang, for a minute there I thought that was a video of an ANTIFA rally .   .   .     :scrutiny

     :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

    If it were antifa, there would be more thrown canned soft drinks and swung bike locks.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #523 on: September 24, 2018, 06:44:18 pm »
    Well, all of the victims of the incursion seemed to be white so perhaps I made an unwarranted assumption.    :whistle     
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    « Reply #524 on: September 24, 2018, 09:12:50 pm »
    I'm still trying to figure antifa out...  They hate... 'Fascism.'   :hmm ...None of that around here.


    They also hate white people, for whatever crime of being awesome they can conjure up in their minds.


    Marxism is a rising up of the worker class
    Maoism is a rising up of the peasant class


    And these guys are... what?  Pencil-necked soyboys, and blue haired fatties?  They don't work, they don't labor.  Their lives are made so easy for them (ironically, mostly due to white men) that they are able to protest what 'injustices' they do.  Would their 'movement' be Soyism? :rotfl   Or would it be the wrong side of natural selection?
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