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Upcoming trip to China
« on: October 20, 2008, 11:01:14 pm »
Of all the places in the world I'd like to travel to, China has to be near the bottom.  Why?
Communist government.
Lead paint on toys.
Communist government.
Bad chemicals in baby formula and who knows what else.
Etc.
Communist government.

So why the heck am I going?  Well, I'm a CPA who has transitioned from corporate accounting to corporate finance (yes, there's a difference) and decided a couple of years ago to go back to school and get my MBA.  I'll finish my last semester in April 2009 and the final requirement is a class trip to Beijing.  REQUIREMENT.  I'm sure it will be very educational--good lectures, hanging out with friends.  But I'd rather give my tourist (and tuition/whatever) dollars to someplace not hostile to the U.S. freedom.

Good news is I was able to use frequent flier miles for the ticket.

Now for the important part--how the heck do I keep from eating dog/cat/rat/whatever??  I know, the obvious answer is to avoid meat.  But I'm a stereotypical texan--give me meat (preferably beef) and potatoes.

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    Re: Upcoming trip to China
    « Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 11:25:44 pm »
    Everyone I know who has traveled there has had high praise for it (except for the toilets, or lack thereof).

    Personally, I suggest you make the most of the experience.  Who knows when or if you will ever go back, and so long as you must go I say you live it up.  Avoid the American food (they have KFC, McDonalds, and most every other American style food owned and operated by the corporations), but you can eat the same stuff here. 

    Try the local stuff, if it's bad than you have all the more reason to appreciate what you are used to, but if it's good than when will you get another chance to enjoy it?  I think that, if anything, you can benefit far more from this trip by truly experiencing it than you'll hurt China by sticking to Doritos Big Macs.

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    Re: Upcoming trip to China
    « Reply #2 on: October 21, 2008, 08:01:01 am »
    China is one of my top "wish I could go see..." places.  Probably because I spent a few years in a Shaolin derived martial art.
    The Forbidden City, the Shaolin Temples (north and south), Wudang mountain, Chen village...lots of culture (particularly martial) to appreciate there.  Most all of it from before the dead end government type the folks there currently suffer under.
    I've heard it's common for groups to have a government "overseer" sort of follow you around if you're a tourist, he or she makes sure you focus on the stuff they want you to see.  That would get annoying fast.  I'd be interested in a summary of your trip when you get done.

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    Re: Upcoming trip to China
    « Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 06:50:42 pm »
    Absolutely try to make the best of it.  When I spent two years in Mexico, I tried to live like the natives.  Even washed my clothes by hand.  In Italy I ate at the places the locals did and avoided the touristy parts.  I highly suggest doing the same.  For me it was an eye opener.  I saw how other people lived.  For the most part it was a difference in priorities.  In Italy, the priority wasn't making money or having fancy cars and big houses, it was being with friends and family and enjoying life.  Obviously the Chinese government is run by a cabal of super villians, but that doesn't mean the people aren't good.  Try to see how they see things.  It might turn out you don't like how they see things,  great, but now you have the percpective to reinforce your own ideas.  And take lots of pictures.
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    Re: Upcoming trip to China
    « Reply #4 on: October 22, 2008, 09:52:25 pm »
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    In Italy, the priority wasn't making money or having fancy cars and big houses, it was being with friends and family and enjoying life.
    I could happily be Italian then.
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    Re: Upcoming trip to China
    « Reply #5 on: October 23, 2008, 11:10:35 am »
    I honestly have to say that Italians were friendlier, nicer, and happier people.  If I could figure out how to do it without being rich, I'd move to Italy.
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    Re: Upcoming trip to China
    « Reply #6 on: October 23, 2008, 12:17:12 pm »
    Thanks for the encouraging thoughts, guys.  I'll definitely take LOTS of pictures and share them with y'all.
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    Re: Upcoming trip to China
    « Reply #7 on: October 23, 2008, 03:58:31 pm »
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    I honestly have to say that Italians were friendlier, nicer, and happier people.  If I could figure out how to do it without being rich, I'd move to Italy.

    I've had that same thought myself.  Just this week I got back from 7 weeks travelling around Europe, much of which was spent in Italy.  I have to say, I love the north of Italy, but the south ....

    From Rome southward, people seemed to be miserable in their jobs, reluctant to even do their jobs (like serve customers, answer questions, etc) and seemed unable to even smile.  There were one or two exceptions, but I actually found it quite sad that people seemed to be so unhappy.  Maybe its different when they're not at work.

    I spoke to a few ex-pats living in Italy and surprisingly the story was consistent .... Italy is a difficult place to live.  Without a community of ex-pats to support you, you will struggle.  You will forever be an outsider, a straniero.  The buearacracy is horrendous apparently ... I spoke to one young lady who after 12 months still didn't have a bank account or a tax number.  It took her 6 months just to get a driving licence.  Another lady I spoke with hated Italy with a passion ... "nothing works, nobody will do their job and you're always an outsider" and she was married to an Italian.

    It seems that visiting a place on vacation and living there full-time are two completely different things.

    Pity .... I really liked Italy.

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