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TSA subway patrols
« on: August 08, 2013, 08:13:05 pm »
Just read this disturbing article on policeone.com which is a very reputable site and not tinfoil in the least. I am angered by this and, without having spoken to strangelittleman, I would safely say he is too.

http://www.policeone.com/homeland-security/articles/6361234-TSA-quietly-expands-its-role-prompts-controversy/
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    Re: TSA subway patrols
    « Reply #1 on: August 08, 2013, 09:19:44 pm »
    I posted about VIPR teams and their joint excercises with local law enforcement operations in bus stations and road stops over a year or two ago. They tested the waters saw no one really made a big issue of it and now they are diving right in.

    Did anyone (that was paying any attention) really believe that this wouldn't happen?  :facepalm
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    Re: TSA subway patrols
    « Reply #2 on: August 08, 2013, 10:46:57 pm »
    I've seen TSA around the metro maybe a handful of times over the last two years. Just open your bags sort of stuff.

    Parking teams at Union Station seems, at the very least, a waste of resources.  Metro police has a substation there, and police presence in the area is already very heavy. It's common to see bomb sniffing dogs there, and I'm not sure I've ever gone through without seeing at least three or four uniformed officers.


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    Re: TSA subway patrols
    « Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 03:50:12 am »
    Well, that clinches it. I will not be able to go to DC again.

    I grew up in MD, so trips to The District were regular, and fun. The Monuments, the Smithsonian Museums, Marine Barracks DC (home of the Silent Drill Platoon; amazing show!) etc. I really like visiting DC. But the ONLY way to do it is on the Metro. Driving in DC, muchless parking there, is close enough to impossible to even bother trying.

    If I'm gonna get strip searched airport style on the Metro, I'll just add that to the list of places I won't go.
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    Re: TSA subway patrols
    « Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 01:17:54 pm »
    So once again representatives of the government can freely ignore the Bill of Rights when it happens to make their job easier?  Okay, got it...
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    « Reply #5 on: August 09, 2013, 02:00:31 pm »
    Well, that clinches it. I will not be able to go to DC again.

    I grew up in MD, so trips to The District were regular, and fun. The Monuments, the Smithsonian Museums, Marine Barracks DC (home of the Silent Drill Platoon; amazing show!) etc. I really like visiting DC. But the ONLY way to do it is on the Metro. Driving in DC, muchless parking there, is close enough to impossible to even bother trying.

    If I'm gonna get strip searched airport style on the Metro, I'll just add that to the list of places I won't go.

    My guess, and it's just that, is that it will be very limited in where and how it is applied around here.

    DC is an incredibly large target, and absolutely precautions should be taken to avoid crime and terrorism.  However, I imagine that the TSA as an organization isn't stupid when it comes to its own self interest. Everyday various metro stops, including Union Station, see tens of thousands of congressional staffers, federal court staffers, administrative agency staffers, visitors, and tourists who are going to be stopping by their elected official's offices.

    While that makes for a huge security issue that needs to be addressed by someone, if the TSA makes everyday travel for those people a hassle then they're running the risk of ticking off a lot of people who can give the TSA headaches they really don't want. 

    So, while this is just a guess, I'm not sure that the TSA will be bringing airport style security to the metro anytime soon.

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    Re: TSA subway patrols
    « Reply #6 on: August 09, 2013, 02:24:17 pm »
    If for no other reason because they can't. The mass transit needs to be, well, mass. You can't do airline style security on rush hour traffic, or everyone will be like "fluff it, I may as well drive."

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    Re: TSA subway patrols
    « Reply #7 on: August 09, 2013, 04:40:41 pm »
    This is an aside, but what is the deal with bureaucrats crafting  juvenile sounding acronyms for these post-9/11 agencies?  Like ICE?  VIPR?

    s___, I can't take that serious.

    John S. Pistole is the "VIPR" agency administrator?  What happened to Cobra Commander and Destro?

    If I was a "VIPR" operative, I'd want my name to be "Snake-eyes".

    Actually, no.  I'd probably be embarrassed to belong to an agency with a name like that.

    I'll join "BADMOTHERfluffERS" when it is formed.  That is "Bureau Against Drugs Muslims Others That Hurt Everyone...".  I'll think of the rest later.  Anyway, it will be cool because we will just cite random bible phrases instead of Miranda.  My ID will be "Mr. Wallace."  Or maybe "Big Kahuna"  if "Mr. Wallace" is already taken.
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    « Reply #8 on: August 09, 2013, 05:02:03 pm »
    We need an official sounding string of words to back up the BAMF acronym. Or is it an initialism? Do you say "Bee Ay Em Eff", or "Bamffff"?

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    « Reply #9 on: August 09, 2013, 05:17:55 pm »
    You say it like this:

    "BAM! mother fluffer."
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    Re: TSA subway patrols
    « Reply #10 on: August 10, 2013, 12:37:26 am »
    Just read this disturbing article on policeone.com which is a very reputable site and not tinfoil in the least. I am angered by this and, without having spoken to strangelittleman, I would safely say he is too.

    http://www.policeone.com/homeland-security/articles/6361234-TSA-quietly-expands-its-role-prompts-controversy/

    Yeah, but mostly disappointed. TSA=Ass Clowns.
    At best, the TSA is Equal Opportunity Employment Working Welfare, at worst it's Corrupt, Incompetent, Abusive, Authoritarian Ass Clowns. The TSA should be scrapped. 
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    « Reply #11 on: August 10, 2013, 08:59:37 am »
    Yeah, but mostly disappointed. TSA=Ass Clowns.
    At best, the TSA is Equal Opportunity Employment Working Welfare, at worst it's Corrupt, Incompetent, Abusive, Authoritarian Ass Clowns. The TSA should be scrapped. 

    maybe the smallest of red flags about the "quality" of the Testical Squeezing Agency workforce might have been raised when they started job advertisements on pizza boxes
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    Re: TSA subway patrols
    « Reply #12 on: August 10, 2013, 07:04:08 pm »
    When encountering TSA clowns, I like to ask them what federal law enforcement academy they attended training at.
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    Re: TSA subway patrols
    « Reply #13 on: August 10, 2013, 11:19:10 pm »
    They're laughing at us, you know......

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