Oh yes, those guys...

I happened across their website one day, and ended up running away in terror.  I was momentarily drawn in because their line of reasoning is not 100% absurd, but quickly found that they take it waaayyy to far.  So far as to the point of a religion.  I actually intended to share the whole site to WTA - in the Random Internet Weirdness thread - but I forgot.

If I am honest, I got the distinct vibe that their members are largely those who were doomed to be lifelong virgins anyway, either because of some personal quality of undesirability to women, or just because they were flat out too scared to talk to them.  The mgtow 'movement' is just a fancy way for those types to feel good about being losers, and to blame it all on women.

One of the things I noticed before I ran away was a looong list of famous men who were bachelors. (conspicuously absent was President James Buchanan)  It was a nice list, but it misses a key point: Those guys were all bachelors, yes, but so have been most Catholic priests in history.  Who can name any of them, outside of the most famous?  Very few.  No one can, because they really didn't accomplish anything great - like most of us will not.  One key thing they give up is the chance to reproduce and raise their children.  This is just as much a civic and patriotic duty as voting, and a human one as well. I respect that priests do it for their faith, but I cannot respect 300lb armchair commandos who blame their undesirability on females - in just the same way 3GF types want to whore around shamelessly, and blame 'men' for the holes in their arguments.

Interesting, regarding the MGTOW a______s being wholly undesirable, we differ in our perspectives on this  .

I am a firm believer that humans are biologically programmed to absolutely fluff each others brains out. We were meant to reproduce and I think there is someone for everyone. In my personal experience, it's harder to not give into temptation then it is to avoid it.

Now the quality of partner may vary, but you can definitely pair up with someone rather easily.


Regarding the MGTOW movement? I'm not really sure what is wrong with those guys.

Sure, you can find a hooker pretty easily, and a whore is not much more difficult.  But do you want to?  Should you want to? Biologically/instinctively speaking?  Because if we boil it down to that, looking at it from an animal perspective, MGTOWs and 3GFs are the very bottom of quality for mates.  Children from those unions would be at a serious disadvantage in life, materially, but also genetically.  (I am a firm believer in 80+% Nature vs Nurture)

If all you want to do is screw something to have some kids, that is easily enough found.  But go with the quickest and easiest (and here the MGTOWs have a point) and the 'baby momma' will clean you out for the next 18 years.

Oh no, I agree. I keep telling my more sexually active friends that if all they are after is a female, then literally any physical female will do. They don't like my reasoning so much, when I point out how empty such pursuits are.

Either way we're all screwed though  . My buddies are shallow and banging anything with a heartbeat and a hole, and I'm holding out for an intellectual and caring Mrs. right. So far both my friends and I are horrible, miserable fellows. You just can't win  .

I guess I didn't realize how right I was.      

Yes sir, it's as if they listened to Dr. Dre back in '94 and took his line of "b____es ain't nothin' but hoes and tricks" to heart and then formed a whole political movement off of it.

I tried telling you  , these guys are pretty awful.

Well, this thread has taken a hilariously absurd turn.   

Social justice is suffering monetary, status, and job loss for having the "wrong opinion".

Couldn't happen to a nicer or more richly deserving bunch of people.   

While I support gay marriage, I'm not too keen on someone getting fired for donating to a political organisation. Even if what they were supporting is against what I personally believe.

Oh, Australia  . We went from "that's not a knife" to "that's not gender equality".

How did this woman make it to this high of an area of Australian government? Why did no one confront her that she was being snarky other than the gentleman whom her insults were directed at?

I think this guy is a comedian or... Something? Idk, never heard of him before, but he preaches common sense against a double standard.

Ok - first video of the Aussie senate.  That man deserves a medal and the woman deserves a swift kick in the a&& .   Rationality is a rare commodity on the left, even among those who attain some degree of achievement.   Second video - I agree with your assessment.  Have you noticed that the longer women of a more rational mindset speak, the more interesting they become?  Have you also noticed that the longer women without even a tenuous connection to rationality speak, the less interesting they become?       Third video - Looks like a seminar of some sort, maybe in relation to a recently book release or something.  The man is speaking straight up common sense for those willing to listen.

1. The man has more patience than I do. He also isn't shy about publicly showing someone's ass when they expose it, which has a similarly impressive, albeit less refined, Trey Gowdy quality to it.

2. Absolutely. Women who are well spoken and fiercely passionate about matters of substance achieve a level of intrigue second to none. I have a theory that I go by which is "pretty Vs attractive". It's like comparing a beautiful vase and a book on philosophy. One may be beautifully painted, but in the end it is empty inside, while the other is much more complex. It's cover does not reveal all of its substance and depth with a short glance and one can find themselves both nodding in agreement with, and being challenged by what it contains. It's no contest which one is more exciting, if you ask me.

3. I really like his view, after all, since when did the golden rule get pigeon holed just because dinner was involved? Sadly, you could see that quite a few of the women were pissed in the video by what he spoke.

Interesting, regarding the MGTOW a______s being wholly undesirable, we differ in our perspectives on this  .

I am a firm believer that humans are biologically programmed to absolutely fluff each others brains out. We were meant to reproduce and I think there is someone for everyone. In my personal experience, it's harder to not give into temptation then it is to avoid it.

Now the quality of partner may vary, but you can definitely pair up with someone rather easily.

I agree.

Around here for every feminist man hater, there are easily a dozen willing women. If anything they are a pain in the ass especially when we have young, eager men and young and equally eager women working together on the same squads. I am so glad I'm not a patrol sergeant any more and dealing with that drama.

Then there's the all female clerks of court...oh gawd...talk about on the hunt. Our chief asked us older officers to keep the younger officers out of the clerks office as much as possible. He was taken aback when I told him that age wasn't a problem with them as a couple had "daddy issues."

Maybe this is an urban thang because out here in the countryside, men and women are still very much into each other, no pun intended.

 

Which I believe I covered in my response to the second video.   

 

What? I was agreeing with you! We make a fine echo chamber  .

I agree.

Around here for every feminist man hater, there are easily a dozen willing women. If anything they are a pain in the ass especially when we have young, eager men and young and equally eager women working together on the same squads. I am so glad I'm not a patrol sergeant any more and dealing with that drama.

Then there's the all female clerks of court...oh gawd...talk about on the hunt. Our chief asked us older officers to keep the younger officers out of the clerks office as much as possible. He was taken aback when I told him that age wasn't a problem with them as a couple had "daddy issues."

Maybe this is an urban thang because out here in the countryside, men and women are still very much into each other, no pun intended.

 

 Humans are an interesting bunch. If they're not fighting eachother, then they're fluffing  . I guess I shouldn't be surprised to hear the same occurring among officers, but it's not really something I hear much about.

 

I'm surprised they can get away with that! I understand that London, like Germany is being taken over by refugees and they're walking on egg shells around Muslims to not be called "racist" or "bigoted".