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Title: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 01, 2016, 09:31:56 am
I've been posting a lot of social justice zealot vids and I believe it's time it gets its own thread.

You are encouraged to post anything in the SJW, trigger warning, safe space, etc realm. Let's make this into a continuing thread like weirdness or awesomeness.

I feel we need it both for entertainment value and as scientific research gathered organically in the field as a reminder of what we are fighting against.

Outrage on important matters that one is willing to back with their life and status is a very honourable thing. However, outrage over the slightest grievance for the point of attention is neither honourable nor moral.

Eta: none of the language used by SJW's is safe for work.

First up. A Hawaiian doll in a taxi triggers this poor woman into berating her taxi driver.

https://youtu.be/QhLuk45biCI

Also, apparently not wanting to give someone annoying your name is now sexual harassment.

https://youtu.be/qO8df_72p1U
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on September 01, 2016, 01:31:23 pm
Ah Undoomed. Part of the reason I never seem to have time for anything else right now. Bearing and Computing Forever are worth checking out as well. Computing Forever is now documenting the culture of political correctness in schools and universities.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: GeorgeHill on September 01, 2016, 01:34:56 pm
SJW's who badger people like - should be subjects of the Knockout Game by anyone else around them. 
Just a thought.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 01, 2016, 01:51:07 pm
SJW's who badger people like - should be subjects of the Knockout Game by anyone else around them. 
Just a thought.

 :rotfl

Serious question. The way they go on and on about this stuff, could that be considered slander? Isn't there legal repercussions for character assassination if someone chooses to press charges?

Thank goodness they record everything, they're digging themselves a hole as the evidence is all there!
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: GeorgeHill on September 01, 2016, 02:04:43 pm
It's only Slander if it was a lie.  If it's true - it's not Slander.
Now, with this guy, saying his name was Hugh Mungus... She getting upset at that and yell that he called himself Hugh Mungus wasn't slander.
Where she cross the line though near the end where she said he was doing things and said things in a way that he didn't. 
As much as I support Free Speech - getting in people's faces, yelling at them like that, badgering them like that... That crosses the lines of etiquette, into hostile territory and disturbs everyone else's peace.  THAT, I do not believe is "Free Speech".   And thus not Protected.  Someone subject of such aggressive SJW attention - should be able to defend themselves with a swift Throat Punch.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 01, 2016, 06:04:36 pm
It's only Slander if it was a lie.  If it's true - it's not Slander.
Now, with this guy, saying his name was Hugh Mungus... She getting upset at that and yell that he called himself Hugh Mungus wasn't slander.
Where she cross the line though near the end where she said he was doing things and said things in a way that he didn't. 
As much as I support Free Speech - getting in people's faces, yelling at them like that, badgering them like that... That crosses the lines of etiquette, into hostile territory and disturbs everyone else's peace.  THAT, I do not believe is "Free Speech".   And thus not Protected.  Someone subject of such aggressive SJW attention - should be able to defend themselves with a swift Throat Punch.

I was going to say pepper spray  :coffee ...

But, because I am a man of understanding and compromise, can we agree upon a pepper spray equipped throat punch?  :neener
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: booksmart on September 01, 2016, 06:12:42 pm
http://straightstoned.com/pro-lifers-declare-ejaculation-murder-every-sperm-cell-life/ (http://straightstoned.com/pro-lifers-declare-ejaculation-murder-every-sperm-cell-life/)

Cue Monty Python...
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 01, 2016, 06:20:16 pm
http://straightstoned.com/pro-lifers-declare-ejaculation-murder-every-sperm-cell-life/ (http://straightstoned.com/pro-lifers-declare-ejaculation-murder-every-sperm-cell-life/)

Cue Monty Python...

 ::)

This is just ridiculous. Besides, they don't take it far enough. We all know that life starts at arousal  :neener. If you are a consenting and married couple, then wasting such opportunities is the same as killing children (sarcasm text enacted).

Who the hell thinks of this stuff? This one is almost as bad as when they petitioned for the turtle fences in Texas. It's like, guys, I know that turtles get killed on the highway and that really sucks, but we don't need a miniature trump turtle wall encasing every highway and interstate in the whole fluffing state of Texas  :banghead.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: GeorgeHill on September 01, 2016, 06:38:41 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: First Shirt on September 01, 2016, 07:32:18 pm
The only way to deal with these idiots is to laugh at them, loudly and in public.  Start off with "Do you have any idea just how effin' stupid that is?  You'd have to be a blithering idiot to believe that crap!!!"  Just let your natural Don Rickles run wild on them, and they'll retreat to their safe spaces and leave you alone.

The one thing they can't tolerate is not being taken seriously, so treat them like the laughingstock they are.  Bonus points if you can get one to stroke out while in public.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 01, 2016, 08:19:36 pm
The only way to deal with these idiots is to laugh at them, loudly and in public.  Start off with "Do you have any idea just how effin' stupid that is?  You'd have to be a blithering idiot to believe that crap!!!"  Just let your natural Don Rickles run wild on them, and they'll retreat to their safe spaces and leave you alone.

The one thing they can't tolerate is not being taken seriously, so treat them like the laughingstock they are.  Bonus points if you can get one to stroke out while in public.

Stroke out like this?

https://youtu.be/Gy6spOAbxhg

https://youtu.be/HyEXV5fZTrY

This horrible emotional trauma was caused because one Milo Yiannopolous was speaking at UCLA. By the way, I really should get some Milo in here. He regularly fights feminism and SJW's and remains fabulous while doing so  :P.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 01, 2016, 08:53:53 pm
https://youtu.be/YmSxJvvAA-k

https://youtu.be/Q2dBpuFCLkY

Not the happiest with that example of Milo, but it is an example of him.

Also, let's come back to my home state, narrated by Undoomed's Australian pal, Bearing!  :cool

My favourite comment:
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these liberals.... say that a bathroom sign wont deter rapists... but believe that having a 'no gun' sign in a public place makes it a safe 'gun free zone' that will deter murderers.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: RetroGrouch on September 02, 2016, 04:17:39 pm
Maybe I don't spend enough time on YouTube and the Internet, but while I recognize that Milo fellow, who the flying eff are these two "Young Turks", and why should anyone care what they think?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on September 02, 2016, 04:23:18 pm
Maybe I don't spend enough time on YouTube and the Internet, but while I recognize that Milo fellow, who the flying eff are these two "Young Turks", and why should anyone care what they think?

They are the most smug of all liberals. I've ground my back teeth every time I've watched them.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 02, 2016, 05:56:08 pm
Sadly, the young turks (or "dumb jerks" if you're feeling snarky) are quite popular. Not as popular as the disgusting filth that BuzzFeed is, but still pretty popular.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 02, 2016, 08:05:22 pm
https://youtu.be/wiOYZWtV2FI

https://youtu.be/u2Zem9ILPbc

I didn't intend posting more undoomed, but I ended up watching this vid over dinner, so it made it into the pile.

As someone in the medical community, this s___ kills me. Argue gender if you wish, but sex is something with physical and scientific evidence supporting it  :banghead. However, I do have professors who do not even acknowledge transgenders. Many in the medical community believe that either you are male or female and that is it, whatever you "identify" as doesn't help with the diagnosis at all of what you physically are. I have noticed that political movements that embrace feminism and transgender awareness are rocking the medical community. I feel as though medicine and science itself is currently under political attack.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 02, 2016, 11:12:53 pm
https://youtu.be/kxM9wFUbrdg

https://youtu.be/AkPlcgY1ya4

Anyone like slam poetry?  :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 02, 2016, 11:20:41 pm
The only way to deal with these idiots is to laugh at them, loudly and in public.  Start off with "Do you have any idea just how effin' stupid that is?  You'd have to be a blithering idiot to believe that crap!!!"  Just let your natural Don Rickles run wild on them, and they'll retreat to their safe spaces and leave you alone.

The one thing they can't tolerate is not being taken seriously, so treat them like the laughingstock they are.  Bonus points if you can get one to stroke out while in public.

Two names to suggest to you who are doing just this: Milo, as already mentioned before, and Gavin McCinnes. These two are the most professional anti-SJW trolls that I known of. When they seriously and factually debate they are a force to be reckoned with. The only problem is that most times they would rather toy with and troll/insult the opposition until they cannot take it anymore. You have to keep a keen eye out for it, but they frequently use dry whit humour and don't actually say what they mean when toying with their SJW victims. If taken at face value they can come across as quite offensive. Gavin sometimes jokes that he trolled Copper Cab so hard that he made him trans-sexual.

Here is two in the same web vid! Merely as an example, not necessarily an anit-SJW vid. I haven't even watched it all the way through, so, be cautious. It might be NSFW.

https://youtu.be/2vjoyS28ExM

Eta: The interview was pretty decent, but at around the 20 min mark they ended on some pretty raunchy humour  :shocked.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 03, 2016, 10:54:43 am
https://youtu.be/6rMBhJVr28w
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 04, 2016, 01:23:53 am
https://youtu.be/Gsxjaa1P9kI

https://youtu.be/_JJfeu2IG0M

Christina Hoff Sommers. One of the good guys and is a wonderful example of a good feminist. She has become an apostate and ostracised from feminism due to the 3rd gen fem movement.

I'm hoping to post more of her stuff here.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: scarville on September 04, 2016, 12:42:08 pm
Then there is Trigglypuff...  Crazy as a poo-flinging chimpanzee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y69tkCbeC5o
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 04, 2016, 02:25:32 pm
Then there is Trigglypuff...  Crazy as a poo-flinging chimpanzee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y69tkCbeC5o


Fantastic! I've been holding my breath waiting for y'all to post something  ;).

Steven Crowder got pissed at this meeting, by the way and went off on triggly puff and her ilk.

https://youtu.be/oss7KmiHLmA

I was looking for the part of the speech where he told them that they have a democratic feminist, an alt right gay Trump supporter, and a comedian; people from all walks of life and different political ideologies uniting to destroy this horrid SJW movement and yet the hecklers in the crowd are so thick that all they see is that all 4 people on stage are white. Steven did very well and I wish I could find that clip in its entirety.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on September 04, 2016, 02:33:36 pm
Camille Paglia is another old school feminist that skewers NOW, SJW's and 3rd Wave Feminists. She once wrote that women have always been on a pedestal because men have dug mines for gold and jewels to adorn them, fought wars to protect and possess them and generally set up civilization at their behest. She's a libertarian with a liberal bent. I've always liked her writings
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 04, 2016, 04:19:28 pm
Camille Paglia is another old school feminist that skewers NOW, SJW's and 3rd Wave Feminists. She once wrote that women have always been on a pedestal because men have dug mines for gold and jewels to adorn them, fought wars to protect and possess them and generally set up civilization at their behest. She's a libertarian with a liberal bent. I've always liked her writings

Never heard of her. When you get the chance, you should post some of her preferred writings/interviews  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 04, 2016, 04:23:56 pm
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“Who knew there was such a thing as ‘feminist glaciology?'”Robert Bryce, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “I can’t satirize it. The scientists do that in their own abstract.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/07/feds-paid-709000-to-academic-who-studies-how-glaciers-are-sexist/#ixzz4JJxJbRlX

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/07/feds-paid-709000-to-academic-who-studies-how-glaciers-are-sexist/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sexist-string-cheese_us_56d9dd75e4b0ffe6f8e9484b

/sarcasm text enacted/ ^There is a cartoon cheese woman on string cheese packages and we must fight this! How dare low calorie foods be advertised as being for women (despite them physiologically requiring less calories than men)! And how dare this sexist society allow slogans like "eat like a man!" for hungry man frozen dinners!  :panic /sarcasm text enacted/
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 04, 2016, 09:05:58 pm
I agree that Ms. Paglia has the whole thing pretty much figured out.  Ms. Hoff Sommers sounds pretty well grounded as well.   

As far as "slam poetry", I think it was preceded and generally outclassed by most of what I was reading on the restroom walls in high school.

In less civilized times being loud and obnoxious was not considered a survival trait.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on September 04, 2016, 09:55:48 pm
In less civilized times being loud and obnoxious was not considered a survival trait.   :coffee

 :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on September 04, 2016, 10:08:04 pm
Never heard of her. When you get the chance, you should post some of her preferred writings/interviews  :cool.

Here is one of many good ones about Paglia:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303997604579240022857012920

Camille Paglia: A Feminist Defense of Masculine Virtues
The cultural critic on why ignoring the biological differences between men and women risks undermining Western civilization
By BARI WEISS
Updated Dec. 28, 2013 10:46 p.m. ET
Philadelphia

'What you're seeing is how a civilization commits suicide," says Camille Paglia. This self-described "notorious Amazon feminist" isn't telling anyone to Lean In or asking Why Women Still Can't Have It All. No, her indictment may be as surprising as it is wide-ranging: The military is out of fashion, Americans undervalue manual labor, schools neuter male students, opinion makers deny the biological differences between men and women, and sexiness is dead. And that's just 20 minutes of our three-hour conversation.

When Ms. Paglia, now 66, burst onto the national stage in 1990 with the publishing of "Sexual Personae," she immediately established herself as a feminist who was the scourge of the movement's establishment, a heretic to its orthodoxy. Pick up the 700-page tome, subtitled "Art and Decadence From Nefertiti to Emily Dickinson," and it's easy to see why. "If civilization had been left in female hands," she wrote, "we would still be living in grass huts."

The fact that the acclaimed book—the first of six; her latest, "Glittering Images," is a survey of Western art—was rejected by seven publishers and five agents before being printed by Yale University Press only added to Ms. Paglia's sense of herself as a provocateur in a class with Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern. But unlike those radio jocks, Ms. Paglia has scholarly chops: Her dissertation adviser at Yale was Harold Bloom, and she is as likely to discuss Freud, Oscar Wilde or early Native American art as to talk about Miley Cyrus.

 ENLARGE
NEIL DAVIES
Ms. Paglia relishes her outsider persona, having previously described herself as an egomaniac and "abrasive, strident and obnoxious." Talking to her is like a mental CrossFit workout. One moment she's praising pop star Rihanna ("a true artist"), then blasting ObamaCare ("a monstrosity," though she voted for the president), global warming ("a religious dogma"), and the idea that all gay people are born gay ("the biggest canard," yet she herself is a lesbian).

But no subject gets her going more than when I ask if she really sees a connection between society's attempts to paper over the biological distinction between men and women and the collapse of Western civilization.


She starts by pointing to the diminished status of military service. "The entire elite class now, in finance, in politics and so on, none of them have military service—hardly anyone, there are a few. But there is no prestige attached to it anymore. That is a recipe for disaster," she says. "These people don't think in military ways, so there's this illusion out there that people are basically nice, people are basically kind, if we're just nice and benevolent to everyone they'll be nice too. They literally don't have any sense of evil or criminality."

The results, she says, can be seen in everything from the dysfunction in Washington (where politicians "lack practical skills of analysis and construction") to what women wear. "So many women don't realize how vulnerable they are by what they're doing on the street," she says, referring to women who wear sexy clothes.

When she has made this point in the past, Ms. Paglia—who dresses in androgynous jackets and slacks—has been told that she believes "women are at fault for their own victimization." Nonsense, she says. "I believe that every person, male and female, needs to be in a protective mode at all times of alertness to potential danger. The world is full of potential attacks, potential disasters." She calls it "street-smart feminism."

Ms. Paglia argues that the softening of modern American society begins as early as kindergarten. "Primary-school education is a crock, basically. It's oppressive to anyone with physical energy, especially guys," she says, pointing to the most obvious example: the way many schools have cut recess. "They're making a toxic environment for boys. Primary education does everything in its power to turn boys into neuters."

She is not the first to make this argument, as Ms. Paglia readily notes. Fellow feminist Christina Hoff Sommers has written about the "war against boys" for more than a decade. The notion was once met with derision, but now data back it up: Almost one in five high-school-age boys has been diagnosed with ADHD, boys get worse grades than girls and are less likely to go to college.

Ms. Paglia observes this phenomenon up close with her 11-year-old son, Lucien, whom she is raising with her ex-partner, Alison Maddex, an artist and public-school teacher who lives 2 miles away. She sees the tacit elevation of "female values"—such as sensitivity, socialization and cooperation—as the main aim of teachers, rather than fostering creative energy and teaching hard geographical and historical facts.

By her lights, things only get worse in higher education. "This PC gender politics thing—the way gender is being taught in the universities—in a very anti-male way, it's all about neutralization of maleness." The result: Upper-middle-class men who are "intimidated" and "can't say anything. . . . They understand the agenda." In other words: They avoid goring certain sacred cows by "never telling the truth to women" about sex, and by keeping "raunchy" thoughts and sexual fantasies to themselves and their laptops.

Politically correct, inadequate education, along with the decline of America's brawny industrial base, leaves many men with "no models of manhood," she says. "Masculinity is just becoming something that is imitated from the movies. There's nothing left. There's no room for anything manly right now." The only place you can hear what men really feel these days, she claims, is on sports radio. No surprise, she is an avid listener. The energy and enthusiasm "inspires me as a writer," she says, adding: "If we had to go to war," the callers "are the men that would save the nation."

And men aren't the only ones suffering from the decline of men. Women, particularly elite upper-middle-class women, have become "clones" condemned to "Pilates for the next 30 years," Ms. Paglia says. "Our culture doesn't allow women to know how to be womanly," adding that online pornography is increasingly the only place where men and women in our sexless culture tap into "primal energy" in a way they can't in real life.

A key part of the remedy, she believes, is a "revalorization" of traditional male trades—the ones that allow women's studies professors to drive to work (roads), take the elevator to their office (construction), read in the library (electricity), and go to gender-neutral restrooms (plumbing).

" Michelle Obama's going on: 'Everybody must have college.' Why? Why? What is the reason why everyone has to go to college? Especially when college is so utterly meaningless right now, it has no core curriculum" and "people end up saddled with huge debts," says Ms. Paglia. What's driving the push toward universal college is "social snobbery on the part of a lot of upper-middle-class families who want the sticker in the window."

Ms. Paglia, who has been a professor of humanities and media studies at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia since 1984, sees her own students as examples. "I have woodworking students who, even while they're in class, are already earning money making furniture and so on," she says. "My career has been in art schools cause I don't get along with normal academics."

To hear her tell it, getting along has never been Ms. Paglia's strong suit. As a child, she felt stifled by the expectations of girlhood in the 1950s. She fantasized about being a knight, not a princess. Discovering pioneering female figures as a teenager, most notably Amelia Earhart, transformed Ms. Paglia's understanding of what her future might hold.

These iconoclastic women of the 1930s, like Earhart and Katharine Hepburn, remain her ideal feminist role models: independent, brave, enterprising, capable of competing with men without bashing them. But since at least the late 1960s, she says, fellow feminists in the academy stopped sharing her vision of "equal-opportunity feminism" that demands a level playing field without demanding special quotas or protections for women.

She proudly recounts her battle, while a graduate student at Yale in the late 1960s and early '70s, with the New Haven Women's Liberation Rock Band over the Rolling Stones: Ms. Paglia loved "Under My Thumb," a song the others regarded as chauvinist. Then there was the time she "barely got through the dinner" with a group of women's studies professors at Bennington College, where she had her first teaching job, who insisted that there is no hormonal difference between men and women. "I left before dessert."

In her view, these ideological excesses bear much of the blame for the current cultural decline. She calls out activists like Gloria Steinem, Naomi Wolf and Susan Faludi for pushing a version of feminism that says gender is nothing more than a social construct, and groups like the National Organization for Women for making abortion the singular women's issue.

By denying the role of nature in women's lives, she argues, leading feminists created a "denatured, antiseptic" movement that "protected their bourgeois lifestyle" and falsely promised that women could "have it all." And by impugning women who chose to forgo careers to stay at home with children, feminists turned off many who might have happily joined their ranks.

But Ms. Paglia's criticism shouldn't be mistaken for nostalgia for the socially prescribed roles for men and women before the 1960s. Quite the contrary. "I personally have disobeyed every single item of the gender code," says Ms. Paglia. But men, and especially women, need to be honest about the role biology plays and clear-eyed about the choices they are making.

Sex education, she says, simply focuses on mechanics without conveying the real "facts of life," especially for girls: "I want every 14-year-old girl . . . to be told: You better start thinking what do you want in life. If you just want a career and no children you don't have much to worry about. If, however, you are thinking you'd like to have children some day you should start thinking about when do you want to have them. Early or late? To have them early means you are going to make a career sacrifice, but you're going to have more energy and less risks. Both the pros and the cons should be presented."

For all of Ms. Paglia's barbs about the women's movement, it seems clear that feminism—at least of the equal-opportunity variety—has triumphed in its basic goals. There is surely a lack of women in the C-Suite and Congress, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a man who would admit that he believes women are less capable. To save feminism as a political movement from irrelevance, Ms. Paglia says, the women's movement should return to its roots. That means abandoning the "nanny state" mentality that led to politically correct speech codes and college disciplinary committees that have come to replace courts. The movement can win converts, she says, but it needs to become a big tent, one "open to stay-at-home moms" and "not just the career woman."

More important, Ms. Paglia says, if the women's movement wants to be taken seriously again, it should tackle serious matters, like rape in India and honor killings in the Muslim world, that are "more of an outrage than some woman going on a date on the Brown University campus
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 05, 2016, 10:42:21 am
Buzz feed is continuing to feed misandry to the masses  :coffee.

 https://www.buzzfeed.com/natalyalobanova/can-you-pick-the-right-man-to-ban?utm_term=.ikvMp4AYo#.xhpK1J0Rl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 05, 2016, 11:19:32 am
Was just able to read the article this morning, Sarge. She sounds like a very strong and tenacious woman and we'll need more like her and Mrs. Sommers if we are to combat the current toxic cultural zeitgeist and social justice zealot movement. I'm all for feminism as long as it is egalitarian, but what we see today is perverted. Mrs. Paglia is right, they need to go back to their roots in order to have wholesome, positive change.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 08, 2016, 11:42:30 am
https://youtu.be/EG6FkKOTLS0

 :thumbup2 :thumbup2 :thumbup2
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on September 08, 2016, 12:53:30 pm
I hope he's right. I love his optimism...and his hair.

I'd love to see it come to pass as he says but I'm afraid it's going to take a near ELE to fix it. It's too entrenched. It'll keep crawling back from the slime. And we will continue to kick it back in. However, I don't think we will ever see it wither and die unless an extreme, herd-thinning event occurs.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on September 08, 2016, 06:21:54 pm
That being stoic is seen as wrong is one of the biggest issues in modern society.

A human should move with purpose. You should not move just from some stimulus.

I also hate the damn phrase. "Now we should not say their feelings are invalid."

If the feelings you have are not cogent. Then they are invalid by definition.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on September 08, 2016, 07:41:05 pm
That being stoic is seen as wrong is one of the biggest issues in modern society.

A human should move with purpose. You should not move just from some stimulus.

I also hate the damn phrase. "Now we should not say their feelings are invalid."

If the feelings you have are not cogent. Then they are invalid by definition.

Well said. Stoicism (and the attendant "keeping my big damn mouth shut") is an ongoing goal for me. It'll never go out of style or lose its importance.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on September 08, 2016, 07:54:58 pm
Well said. Stoicism (and the attendant "keeping my big damn mouth shut") is an ongoing goal for me. It'll never go out of style or lose its importance.

'Keeping my mouth shut' gets harder as I age. I assumed it would get easier, but that seems to not be the case.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 08, 2016, 08:06:59 pm
My aspiration is to someday invade a " .  .  .  menadacious edifice .  .  .  " and kick the current inhabitants out on their worthless a**es.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 08, 2016, 10:33:37 pm
Well said. Stoicism (and the attendant "keeping my big damn mouth shut") is an ongoing goal for me. It'll never go out of style or lose its importance.

'Keeping my mouth shut' gets harder as I age. I assumed it would get easier, but that seems to not be the case.

This is the hardest thing for me as well. Keeping one's mouth shut can be a wonderful asset. But then there are other things at play: society says to not have your own opinion, don't think for yourself; and I reject this notion. They say to never stand up to authority, and yet I have horrible anti-authoritarian tendencies. Lastly, while I may view the world in many shades of grey, my moral compass is black and white- the second someone starts doing mental gymnastics trying to excuse why certain groups of people are more qualified to tell others how to live, how it's ok for certain groups to infringe on the rights of others, hurt others, or take their belongings; then I become impassioned. When someone tells me that I shouldn't own a gun, or that gender studies professors are right and I should hate my gender or race for merely existing, then I have to say something. I struggle greatly with letting things like that slide. I am a man and a proud American and I love a good fight and while I hope to never have to physically put myself on the line, when it comes to battles of wit and clashes of ideology I have been told that I am quite well spoken. I greatly get off on publicly slapping down the arguments of others when they reach that dangerous threshold of infringing upon the rights of others.

Besides, as coelacanth likes to say, we are nothing if not virtuous. And all it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.

I never want to get into the habit of saying or doing nothing.

My aspiration is to someday invade a " .  .  .  menadacious edifice .  .  .  " and kick the current inhabitants out on their worthless a**es.   :coffee

I'm sorry, coelacanth, but I'm going to need an explanation on who the target is of this statement? SJW's? Politicians? Stupid people in general?

I hope he's right. I love his optimism...and his hair.

I'd love to see it come to pass as he says but I'm afraid it's going to take a near ELE to fix it. It's too entrenched. It'll keep crawling back from the slime. And we will continue to kick it back in. However, I don't think we will ever see it wither and die unless an extreme, herd-thinning event occurs.

I love his optimism too. I don't know if we can ever beat this thing, but we have some very well spoken individuals on our side. Milo is half expert troll and half skilled orator and he always looks positively fabulous while doing both  :P. The man speaks "freedom" and that is always attractive, no matter who is speaking it. Because he is a proud 'anti-feminist', some joke on the internet and say that "you know this world is falling apart and upside down when the only one with balls enough to stand up for men's rights is a gay man and when a Jew is the one doing the roasting of people (referring to the absolutely scathing comebacks by Ben Shapiro).

Not really appropriate humour, but hey, I thought I would put that out there  :coffee.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on September 08, 2016, 11:47:58 pm
Oh I agree that you must speak up for what's right, no doubt there. I'm just cursed with a double dose of what granny called "Irish mouth" and it's nothing more than a lack of tact, a metric ton of uncalled for comments and ill temper. A strict stoic stance would prevent my foot-in-the-mouth moments. I'm getting better but I'm not there yet.

I'm convinced that even more than rightly calling out PC and SJZ BS for what it is, simply living our lifestyles with obvious truck revving joy and open gusto is a huge slap down. What's more, I'm raising five loud, rascally kids just like me. Yeah sugar, we're still here and not going anywhere soon.

Long live the king, baby!
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 08, 2016, 11:53:57 pm
Oh I agree that you must speak up for what's right, no doubt there. I'm just cursed with a double dose of what granny called "Irish mouth" and it's nothing more than a lack of tact, a metric ton of uncalled for comments and ill temper. A strict stoic stance would prevent my foot-in-the-mouth moments. I'm getting better but I'm not there yet.

I'm convinced that even more than rightly calling out PC and SJZ BS for what it is, simply living our lifestyles with obvious truck revving joy and open gusto is a huge slap down. What's more, I'm raising five loud, rascally kids just like me. Yeah sugar, we're still here and not going anywhere soon.

Long live the king, baby!

"Irish Mouth"?  :hmm

I wonder if I have some Irish ancestry in me that I don't know about?  ;)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 09, 2016, 12:07:25 am
" . . . mendacious edifice . . ."    @   2:43 of the video.   Just bein' a smart a**.  I know, I know . . . hard to believe coming from me but his eloquence inspired me.  What can I say?    :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 09, 2016, 01:07:55 am
" . . . mendacious edifice . . ."    @   2:43 of the video.   Just bein' a smart a**.  I know, I know . . . hard to believe coming from me but his eloquence inspired me.  What can I say?    :cool

Ah, gotcha. I think I found a couple of new vocab words  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 09, 2016, 11:55:21 am
https://youtu.be/6UQFLiugj-Y

Here is what happened after Hugh Mungus incident. She's crying about how when the cops were called, like she demanded, they made sure to question her, put their hands on their guns, and speak with her alone. By her reasoning, the police were interrogating her, intimidating a woman of colour, and wished to "speak" with her alone so that they could sexually assault her.

The woman seems to not realise that questions or insults that make one uncomfortable is not the same thing as physical assault or rape  :bash.

The only part I don't like about this video was he added a fan made video at the end that was supposed to be funny, but I find it to just be a lot of swearing. It begins at like 6 minutes or so.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 09, 2016, 09:36:49 pm
I thought this video was ok, but I was lead to it by an off shoot of bearing and thought he could use some promotion and that the thread could use some variety.

I was searching for a video by bearing or undoomed on "Toxic masculinity" and couldn't find any examples, really.

https://youtu.be/-3mspf7MkY8

One of the things that really irks me and I've heard it been used quite a few times on campus (of course it is only used by campus professors to talk down to students).
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 09, 2016, 10:57:36 pm
The only thing truly "toxic" is stupidity and it is non-specific.  It occurs at random throughout human populations wherever they are found.  I will concede that there are certain hot spots where you are more likely to encounter it but fortunately that seems to be a self correcting problem. 

Anywhere the number of stupid people outnumber those that are not so afflicted, some sort of disaster usually occurs rather quickly and restores a sustainable balance. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 11, 2016, 01:33:59 am
https://youtu.be/5raY2S9P72A

https://youtu.be/AbaafsWBO0U

That second video, my goodness  ::).
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 11, 2016, 04:19:32 am
While not poking fun at any specific SJW, this still relates to the thread because it is an argument on how our current society is in favour of true equality- despite the bemoans of SJW's and the temperament of the current zeitgeist.

https://youtu.be/bZ4qzIDQ-wQ
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 11, 2016, 11:11:15 am
Ok! Getting the thread back on track in a big way, today!

Here's a buzzfeed article. Read the comments and then enjoy your eye bleach.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/rossalynwarren/i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means?utm_term=.kpeV6nOJo#.wpN4zvOpx

https://youtu.be/vNErQFmOwq0

https://youtu.be/rvEvJaF0w2o

https://youtu.be/4y6JcMyhlBk

This is the spot where my video of Milo destroying white privilege should be, but I couldn't find it  :(.

Here is your extra dose of insanity today:

https://youtu.be/CTOoYxOf92s

https://youtu.be/FCjjVSmop5Q

I've come to a conclusion, through repeated study of the subject matter. Even if you take the most inflammatory anti social justice zealot like undoomed or Milo, their argument is:

"fluff you, you're opinion is wrong and stupid and here is why."

While even the best spoken social justice zealot only has half of that argument. They say:

"fluff you, your opinion is stupid and wrong."

They never back up the argument, merely slander and lambast the person they're arguing with. Sure they use a complicated vocabulary: internalised, systemic, cis-gender, heteronormative, rape culture, etc. But with a little education, it's easy to see that this is merely sophistry. They speak many paragraphs that sound good, yet with minor scrutiny the argument can be distilled to little more than ignorant opinion, venomous hatred, and a habitual ignoring of providing the burden of proof needed in order to demonstrate their claims and take them seriously.

It's as fascinating to me as it is horrifying, and that is why it must be dissected and documented. Despite the disgusting material, I've noticed that I've become quite academic about it. What is this? Why do people do this? How can we rectify it?

More to come in the future.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 11, 2016, 10:15:48 pm
You have adopted the doctrine of reason over emotion, intelligence guided by experience and the pursuit of objective truth above all.  You have done this because you have proven, beyond any reasonable doubt that it is the only way people can relate to one another on a long term basis in a mutually beneficial manner.  You sir, stand accused of being a student of human nature.   :scrutiny   How do you plead?   :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 12, 2016, 11:01:51 am
You have adopted the doctrine of reason over emotion, intelligence guided by experience and the pursuit of objective truth above all.  You have done this because you have proven, beyond any reasonable doubt that it is the only way people can relate to one another on a long term basis in a mutually beneficial manner.  You sir, stand accused of being a student of human nature.   :scrutiny   How do you plead?   :cool

I sat down for 5 minutes trying to reply to this  :rotfl. I'm so awestruck by the stupidity of human behaviour that I really have nothing to say. I could plead cynical, frustrated, angry, or increasingly intolerant of bull s___, but.... I'm not sure. We have a debt that reaches into the trillions and terrorists who want us and western society as a whole dead, so what do we focus on? Skin colour and genitalia  :banghead. On how air conditioner is sexist and manspreading is a social atrocity.

The things we trivialise and the things we insist on whinging about is just astounding.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 12, 2016, 11:13:23 am
https://youtu.be/P1tZd7y4FZE

https://youtu.be/b3csHaaL6Bg
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on September 12, 2016, 11:59:26 am
We have a debt that reaches into the trillions and terrorists who want us and western society as a whole dead, so what do we focus on? Skin colour and genitalia  :banghead. On how air conditioner is sexist and manspreading is a social atrocity.

The things we trivialise and the things we insist on whining about is just astounding.
I agree.  If MLK was here, or some of his equivalents from the womens' suffrage movement, they would be sickened by what their successors are doing.  The very notions of 'equal before the law' and 'on the basis of merit' are being trampled upon by or modern 'enlightened' society.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 12, 2016, 12:27:15 pm
I agree.  If MLK was here, or some of his equivalents from the womens' suffrage movement, they would be sickened by what their successors are doing.  The very notions of 'equal before the law' and 'on the basis of merit' are being trampled upon by or modern 'enlightened' society.

Hell, MLK would be so pissed, he'd probably ruin his flawless record of being a "nonviolent protestor"  :neener. I could see him taking a swing at some of the powerful race baiters of today  :hmm, just on the grounds of systematically destroying everything he's worked for.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 12, 2016, 11:16:22 pm
https://youtu.be/bpJ1WoUZEJQ
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 13, 2016, 11:24:33 pm
If the people of the state of Washington wish to continue supporting this kind of brain dead jacka**ery then they deserve what they get in return.  Personally, if I were to find myself in possession of a newly minted high school diploma I would bypass all the traditional choices in what currently passes for "higher education"  :facepalm  and go directly to a vocational/technical college that specializes in real world disciplines backed by state of the art training. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on September 13, 2016, 11:32:01 pm
Personally, if I were to find myself in possession of a newly minted high school diploma I would bypass all the traditional choices in what currently passes for "higher education"  :facepalm  and go directly to a vocational/technical college that specializes in real world disciplines backed by state of the art training. 
That's great, if you don't mind working for a living.  Personally, if I were to do it over again, I would jump straight into the cesspool of higher learning, so I could rub the right shoulders and kiss the right boots to get me one of those fancy D-greez that would allow me to never do manual work again.

$.02
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on September 13, 2016, 11:55:38 pm
That's great, if you don't mind working for a living.  Personally, if I were to do it over again, I would jump straight into the cesspool of higher learning, so I could rub the right shoulders and kiss the right boots to get me one of those fancy D-greez that would allow me to never do manual work again.

$.02

Not I. I have a fancy degree or three and I actually look forward to working in a machine shop, carpentry and Blacksmithing when I retire. My job is not physically demanding aside from the occasional scuffle, adrenaline rush, etc. For what little I actually have to do, I'm very well compensated. I agree with Mike Rowe 200%. If I did go back to skoo, I'd prolly be a civil or mechanical engineer of some sort so I could play with cool stuff and still work with my hands. I grew up working hard around men who could "do stuff" and fix anything and I miss it in a lot of ways and try to do as much of it in my off time as possible.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on September 13, 2016, 11:58:43 pm
 :shrug My dream career would 3-4 terms in HoR, 1-2 in the Senate, and then the rest of my 'useful' existence as a think-tanker/lobbyist. ;)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 14, 2016, 12:02:12 am
Personally I'd rather relieve a lot of those highly educated types of their over-inflated paychecks for the simple task of fixing their HVAC systems, unclogging their plumbing or fixing their electrical problems.  Heck, I'd even put up an outdoor barbecue center with a gazebo over it. 

"Yes ma'am, we can come out today.  There is a slight additional fee for week-end service but we can have a tech on his way within the hour.  Thank you ma'am, we'll see you shortly."    :cool

The problem with all that shoulder rubbing and boot kissing is that it takes place in the "cesspool".  And, it doesn't end when you get the degree.  If you run with that crowd its going to be a regular feature of your existence. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on September 14, 2016, 12:08:20 am
All a necessary part of the game. 

Every election cycle I get depressed.  Not because I am repulsed by the scum running the show, but because I wish I could be in there with them.  To me, politics is the biggest thrill.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 14, 2016, 12:11:50 am
Fair enough.  Its just not for me - especially when I see these videos depicting what life is like on today's college campus.  I don't think I'd last a semester. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on September 14, 2016, 12:13:42 am
Personally I'd rather relieve a lot of those highly educated types of their over-inflated paychecks for the simple task of fixing their HVAC systems, unclogging their plumbing or fixing their electrical problems.  Heck, I'd even put up an outdoor barbecue center with a gazebo over it. 

"Yes ma'am, we can come out today.  There is a slight additional fee for week-end service but we can have a tech on his way within the hour.  Thank you ma'am, we'll see you shortly."    :cool

So true. I was listening to NPR a while back and they told the tale of two brothers, one who became a doctor and one who went to trade school at the local community college and became a plumber. In short, the doc was still saddled with college debt a decade after school but in the same two decades (the decade of school for the good doctor and the decade after graduation) the plumber brother had started a plumbing business which was hugely prosperous and he had tons to show for it with zero debt. College is not at all what it's cracked up to be nor is it a guarantee of the pot o' gold. There's many an advanced degree holder waiting tables and tending bar...or patrolling the streets, not that we mind.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on September 14, 2016, 12:28:43 am
That is true, and a lot depends upon the degree.  'Gender Studies' is flat out a waste of time and money, as are the liberal arts.  Medicine, law, engineering, and CPA accounting all have a high chance of you finding a job in your specialty. 

If I were to do it, it would be Law, with focuses on both Constitutional Law and a more practical specialty.  Maybe Corporate Law?  That way there is a fall-back in case politics does not pan out.


And to the story of the two brothers, I didn't hear the story as you did, but here is my observation: Per google, a med degree is $250k-ish.  Starting MD salaries range from $150k to much more.  If a doctor has student loans 10 years after med school...  Maybe I am missing something, but I would guess he either made some bad choices, or did not prioritize very well.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 14, 2016, 12:51:37 am
Actually, I might go to school for heavy equipment operation and maintenance.   With all the infrastructure jobs and projects we've been promised that could be very lucrative.    :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on September 14, 2016, 01:24:46 am
I wouldn't bet on it.  We hired a guy away from heavy machines about eight months ago.  He is certified to run a long list of machines, and he was being worked like a dog for a measly $15/hr.  Sounds like decent money, and it was, but the work is worth more than that.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 14, 2016, 06:08:36 am
I cannot stand academia, but I do what I must because of passion. Like Kaso and politics or coelacanth and working with his hands- there are certain things that are in a man's blood, that if he doesn't do them, it will eat at him for the rest of his life. That's pretty much where I'm sitting right now. I didn't choose this job, it chose me. Yes, internal politics sucks, but every office has its own politics. Yes, the debt sucks, but I am willing to pay that price. I am not however, willing to pay the price of not striving and bleeding to do one of the few things in this world that brings me happiness.

Sarge said it in a post a while back. When you're young, chase what you love now, cos this life goes by fast. And you have a lot of thinking to do if you think it won't weigh down your insides like stone and eat at your guts until you start striving towards it. And "it" could be anything: marrying the love of your life, traveling the world, doing the job your passionate about. Like I said, some things are in a man's blood. Some things give him intrinsic value and purpose and its a crime to not follow that.

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2016/09/10/manvotional-lifes-challenge/
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 14, 2016, 04:38:43 pm
https://youtu.be/Pcu-v5qCCV4

Random Ben Shapiro on feminism.

I'm hoping to find more ridiculous SJW vids soon. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 14, 2016, 08:16:47 pm
https://youtu.be/0MCUnzrlVBM
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 15, 2016, 02:31:48 am
 :scrutiny  .  .  .  .  .   :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on September 15, 2016, 03:39:30 am
As mentioned earlier the Youtube user Computing Forever has been compiling examples of SJWs using their power within academia and business to force their rhetoric onto students. He's done this by collecting e-mails from those compelled to endure it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFlRrOVZfk0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFlRrOVZfk0)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2skcwB3MSB4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2skcwB3MSB4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGooeH5UOcc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGooeH5UOcc)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 15, 2016, 09:20:57 pm
https://youtu.be/8sImGjr1sTA
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 15, 2016, 11:35:41 pm
https://youtu.be/nwOAmqWhf28

More Milo, the proud anti-feminist, when he's serious and not trolling  :thumbup2.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 17, 2016, 09:22:47 am
https://youtu.be/hZ2kwo2kWWY

Homeless white people have privilege. Apparently :banghead.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 17, 2016, 01:39:25 pm
https://youtu.be/kpRVBvx_-z4

https://youtu.be/TVBUDF2gn2Y
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 18, 2016, 11:54:48 am
An opinion piece on why to fight the good fight by undoomed:

https://youtu.be/s11DcJOpDUg
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 18, 2016, 02:43:42 pm
I keep clicking on this thread and subjecting myself to the content because, like a bad wreck on the highway, you just can't look away.   :facepalm

I would not seek out these videos on my own so I have to applaud you for performing a public service to those of us who still resist being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the twenty first century. 

Carry on, sir.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 18, 2016, 03:50:35 pm
I keep clicking on this thread and subjecting myself to the content because, like a bad wreck on the highway, you just can't look away.   :facepalm

I would not seek out these videos on my own so I have to applaud you for performing a public service to those of us who still resist being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the twenty first century. 

Carry on, sir.

Thank you for watching and for the compliment!  :thumbup1

Let me explain why I do this, with a rant. I do this because it affects my life. I have a chip on my shoulder and I purposefully fight it where I can. I am tired of seeing the free exchange of ideas crippled on campus, I hate that the spirit of individual liberty is no longer in vogue; how every human being seems to think they can dictate or micromanage another's life because they have a perceived right that their feelings on a matter trumps another's rights (after all, SJW's are nothing but a "feelings > rights" movement). I also hate how social justice zealots trivialise victims of actual crime (especially rape victims) by changing the meanings of words until they are meaningless; I'm sorry, but having a one night stand that you regret a few days later (but fully consented to that night) is not the same thing as the woman who was sexually assaulted and whipped from head to toe with a straightened coat hanger so badly that the SANE nurse couldn't even examine her without causing her pain. And lastly, when a feminist says that any woman should be allowed to be an engineer, president, fortune 500 CEO (which this is true! Women can and should be whatever they want!), but yet me going to be a nurse (who just so happens to be male) is "the patriarchy", well...... That's how a young man with a freedom minded, fighting spirit realises that the bull s___ has to stop. When they start messing with me and my job, all bets are off. I'll learn all I can about the third gen fem movement so I can better understand it and destroy it. I have learnt enough about it to know that it used to be a beautiful political movement, but something happened and now it's perverted. It needs a social revolution to shake it up and get it back on the right track.

And, well, I'm naturally blessed with the gift of debate and they have pissed me off  :coffee.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 18, 2016, 07:23:12 pm
https://youtu.be/7iZwimeR9MA
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 20, 2016, 09:40:49 am
https://youtu.be/qlSCfBwMSG0
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 20, 2016, 07:22:13 pm
https://youtu.be/-4S0gHlKiho
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on September 20, 2016, 09:22:01 pm
Quote
"I don't think there is any one way to distinguish between a man and a woman, and I don't think it's necessary."
Holy sweet hell. :facepalm  That was actually spoken by a grown adult.

If this is the alternative, the islamic caliphate idea doesn't look so bad after all.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 20, 2016, 09:50:18 pm
Holy sweet hell. :facepalm  That was actually spoken by a grown adult.

If this is the alternative, the islamic caliphate idea doesn't look so bad after all.

Who was the one to teach me that SMOD meant "sweet meteor of death"?

Not saying that we need one of those, but you just can't make this s___ up  :panic. It's like they have never even heard of secondary sex characteristics or hell, differing genitalia. As someone who loves anatomy, it feels like they are trying to tell me the subject which I have been studying for years, doesn't even exist. Are we regressing? Is this what people mean when they say "I know you have a lot of education, because only someone with a degree could say something that dumb."?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on September 20, 2016, 09:52:12 pm
Who was the one to teach me that SMOD meant "sweet meteor of death"?
?  Not me...  :shrug
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: RetroGrouch on September 21, 2016, 03:41:20 pm
Gender is a societal construct?!?  I wouldn't be able to be as calm and collected as the interviewer.  These people are either brain washed or idiots.  Or both.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Chief45 on September 21, 2016, 03:45:16 pm
or as the late Jerry Clower put it,  "educated beyond their intelligence".



Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 23, 2016, 01:31:07 am
https://youtu.be/4ngGeA_JQQs

https://youtu.be/-XNyG6exBW8
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 23, 2016, 11:53:57 am
https://youtu.be/u06f6lfUwx8

This is another example of a "walk away at all costs" moment on campus. If they can't be reasoned with, escape, if they pursue you or lay hands on you? Cornered cat principle.

Sad thing is, even if you were completely justified in self defense (say giving a shove so you could just get the hell away), being a white male against a woman- he'd still get charged with assault. Not sure why, but it seems like only police officers realise that grown men have been killed by women and children before. Then again, maybe LEO's are the only one's who have any common sense when it comes to the more dangerous elements of society.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Chief45 on September 23, 2016, 01:07:27 pm
maybe,  but you also have to consider that our view is somewhat skewed, by the simple fact that we deal almost exclusively with 5% of the population.

but we do understand that stupid exists and evil exists.





This is another example of a "walk away at all costs" moment on campus. If they can't be reasoned with, escape, if they pursue you or lay hands on you? Cornered cat principle.

Sad thing is, even if you were completely justified in self defense (say giving a shove so you could just get the hell away), being a white male against a woman- he'd still get charged with assault. Not sure why, but it seems like only police officers realise that grown men have been killed by women and children before. Then again, maybe LEO's are the only one's who have any common sense when it comes to the more dangerous elements of society.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 23, 2016, 02:07:15 pm
maybe,  but you also have to consider that our view is somewhat skewed, by the simple fact that we deal almost exclusively with 5% of the population.

but we do understand that stupid exists and evil exists.

I'm sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree  :cool. Just because y'all see what is there does not make your view point skewed. You might be surprised how many people will not even acknowledge that evil exists. People act like the riots in London from 2011 or Beslan Russian 2001 or the Hi-Fi murders in Ogden Utah are just quaint and novel little notes in history, but their narrative is always the same "Oh, it will never happen to me." The mere utterance of acknowledging that there are people out there who will maim or kill another human being for pure sport and how it is our moral duty to defend ourselves and those around us from such two legged predators gets one labeled as "paranoid".

The last sentence of your post says it all and that is a fact that so few choose to believe.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on September 23, 2016, 02:08:45 pm
https://youtu.be/u06f6lfUwx8

This is another example of a "walk away at all costs" moment on campus. If they can't be reasoned with, escape, if they pursue you or lay hands on you? Cornered cat principle.

Sad thing is, even if you were completely justified in self defense (say giving a shove so you could just get the hell away), being a white male against a woman- he'd still get charged with assault. Not sure why, but it seems like only police officers realise that grown men have been killed by women and children before. Then again, maybe LEO's are the only one's who have any common sense when it comes to the more dangerous elements of society.

There's a follow up to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pze8W5HrIh8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pze8W5HrIh8)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 23, 2016, 02:22:16 pm
Thanks! I didn't see that!
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on September 23, 2016, 03:08:06 pm
Thanks! I didn't see that!

It's brand new. I subscribe to Bearing. Here's his latest, now SJWs are getting upset when their actions have consequences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piZxSTCpXWQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piZxSTCpXWQ)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 23, 2016, 10:32:39 pm
You have to love a good dry humoured troll  :cool.

https://youtu.be/CZoABBMQ6f4

Watch him try not to smile and giggle. Hilarious.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: cpaspr on September 23, 2016, 10:55:40 pm
Okay, that video about the dumb SJW female was just difficult to watch.  She started an altercation, and then didn't want to play the game she started.  The stupid, it is strong with this one.

But then, among the other suggested videos that popped up after that one was over was one about "free sovereign beings" arguing with cops.  I had to stop watching after 5 minutes or so.  I could feel my blood pressure rising.  And what's worse?  I actually know someone like that.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on September 24, 2016, 12:57:52 am
I may be swimming against the current but all she did was flip the guy off. Yes, she's a c__t but if I responded to a call and upon arrival found out that she had merely flipped him off and drove away, I'd chew him out for wasting LE time and leave. If he did anything more than laugh or shrug it off, he's also the problem. Yes, she's an ass but it wasn't a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. He's a jackass for following her over a middle finger.

I'd tell him he and others like him who are calling in petty s__t like that is why we can't shut the meth house down around the corner. We are too busy running around hand holding to deal with the worst stuff.

This is like one of my all time "favorite" trivial calls: a very indignant lady complained that as she slowed to turn the corner near her home, several children on the sidewalk made faces at her and she by God wanted something done about it. THAT is what saps LE resources and THAT petty BS is easily 50% of our call volume.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: cpaspr on September 24, 2016, 01:54:13 am
Sarge -

no way of knowing who called the police, or if he pulled them both over for speeding, or whatnot.  But, it sounds like that's kind of talking to the dude got.  "let it go" and all that.  We don't really know, because he wasn't stupid enough to record himself arguing with the officer (and he probably wasn't that stupid as to be arguing anyway).  She was.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 24, 2016, 01:59:04 am
I may be swimming against the current but all she did was flip the guy off. Yes, she's a c__t but if I responded to a call and upon arrival found out that she had merely flipped him off and drove away, I'd chew him out for wasting LE time and leave. If he did anything more than laugh or shrug it off, he's also the problem. Yes, she's an ass but it wasn't a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. He's a jackass for following her over a middle finger.

I'd tell him he and others like him who are calling in petty s__t like that is why we can't shut the meth house down around the corner. We are too busy running around hand holding to deal with the worst stuff.

This is like one of my all time "favorite" trivial calls: a very indignant lady complained that as she slowed to turn the corner near her home, several children on the sidewalk made faces at her and she by God wanted something done about it. THAT is what saps LE resources and THAT petty BS is easily 50% of our call volume.

Ummm .   .   . didn't the woman say that she spotted the officer while driving and turned around and flashed her lights and honked her horn to get him to stop?   I agree that the guy probably overreacted if the story we are hearing from the woman is actually true. ( no better than a 50-50 chance of that IMO ) He should have probably just returned the gesture with a big smile on his face and saved a his gasoline. 

That said, watching her drive herself crazy while filming herself was kind of entertaining.  I felt sorry for the police officer, though.  If I were him I think I would have instructed her to close her mouth and not open it again until I was finished speaking.   Not sure she could have actually done it but again, it would have been amusing to watch. 

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 26, 2016, 02:31:11 am
Found a new channel.

https://youtu.be/4AODsg8ALyo

And into regularly scheduled programming, BBC edition.

https://youtu.be/A46U7WUg3p4
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 26, 2016, 12:16:39 pm
It's brand new. I subscribe to Bearing. Here's his latest, now SJWs are getting upset when their actions have consequences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piZxSTCpXWQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piZxSTCpXWQ)

Finally got a chance to watch it.

When bearing said: "Ben's Dad must have the patience of a fluffing saint."  :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

This woman needs to learn what instigating a conflict means. They're both dumbasses. Her for starting it and him for taking the bait. I love how she plays the "I'm just an innocent woman being threatened by the big scary red neck" shtick after throwing out vulgar challenges in the first place.

The real victims of this situation? The cop for momentarily having to deal with stupidity and then poor Ben who's going to have to listen to his pissed off mom berate the patriarchy the whole drive home and then probably until dinner time. I hope Ben grows up to be a Republican president  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 26, 2016, 02:18:27 pm
https://youtu.be/cFzUJV3ZZrQ

My turn to be an old curmudgeon. Kids these days need to know what the hell they are fighting for. The gem above doesn't even seem like a bad person with a twisted ideology, merely woefully uninformed.

Why do people follow crowds so easily?  :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 26, 2016, 02:33:38 pm
https://youtu.be/YUR75tVSnQE

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/10/feminist-lana-aborts-baby_n_6651442.html

http://womenspost.ca/owner-of-shelter-for-abused-men-and-children-commits-suicide-after-financial-ruin-ridicule/

To my understanding this video is of feminists protesting a "men's suicide awareness" seminar.

https://youtu.be/iARHCxAMAO0

I was trying to find articles on the matter, as I had been hearing about this floating around the internet ether.

https://youtu.be/Ka8AodgFcAg

The research and fight continues...
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: tokugawa on September 26, 2016, 05:14:26 pm
This would all be very humorous if one was not aware of various historical events where people like this Stupid Jerkoff Wankers  gained political power and ended up killing from hundreds to millions, all with the same self righteous sense of certitude and disinterest in any opposing opinion or fact. 

 They bear a chilling resemblance to Mao's Red Guard and the Cultural Revolution.

The very unpalatable truth is there is likely to be an existential crisis involving them, one way or the other.

 Fortunately, there is something nearly unique in history in this country- we, that is to say the now lone class of the "unprotected", are armed to the gills. Normally, the thugs have an unarmed populace to bully, torture and kill- they will not have such helpless victims this go around.

It would be a mistake to believe for one second people like the sjw's in these videos would not kill you if they could get away with it (ie, if it were "policy"). The unreasoning hatred is palpable.  I guarantee you that female would be happy to run a drill into the head of the "big ugly M_F redneck" she was b____ing about, if she could do it with no consequence.

 

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 27, 2016, 01:22:50 am
Not personally.  Her big beef was with the police who weren't interested in doing her bidding or even her attempt to shame and ridicule them as they went about their sworn duty.   That kind seems to always look for someone else to do the actual dirty work of enforcement unless they've gone completely off the edge. 

Interesting point about the cultural divide and its hardware corollary.  With any luck the political pendulum has reached the limit of its leftward swing and will begin its journey back toward sanity. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 27, 2016, 01:45:45 am
Not personally.  Her big beef was with the police who weren't interested in doing her bidding or even her attempt to shame and ridicule them as they went about their sworn duty.   That kind seems to always look for someone else to do the actual dirty work of enforcement unless they've gone completely off the edge. 

Interesting point about the cultural divide and its hardware corollary.  With any luck the political pendulum has reached the limit of its leftward swing and will begin its journey back toward sanity.

With my narrow scope, I cannot imagine us ever becoming more conservative as a country. The progressive train seems to keep gaining momentum. That being said, history has shown that the pendulum does eventually change direction and when it does- it goes just as far in the opposite extreme. I can safely say that I don't want to see that either. A complete 180 would be a return to our Judeo-Christian values and intense Nationalism (both are fantastic things!). The other things such as xenophobia and group think of the other variety (I.e. "How dare you speak out against long held tradition!" etc) I do not look forward to.

Although the good news is that:

1. I am completely talking out of my ass on this one.

2. That pendulum is slow and I'll never see those changes in my lifetime.

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/da/fd/14/dafd14d3fc756e45e1bff6d8a996a75f.jpg)

(http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/1478989_668588979860658_822331312_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 27, 2016, 02:24:27 am
Well, if we elect Donald Trump to the presidency we will have to thank him for one thing even if he accomplishes nothing else.   Specifically, he will have brought an end to both the Bush and Clinton political dynasties at one fell swoop.   Clearing the decks of such useless political debris is the first step righting the ship of state and getting it moving under its own power again. 

As for the possibilities you foresee at the other end of the pendulum's arc, I would leave you with a quote often attributed to Mark Twain: 

"History never repeats itself but it does rhyme."   

Just as we will never see the return of any of the great empires of the past, we will likewise never see the return of nineteenth century America.   The ideas that the nation was founded on will never truly die but they will certainly be interpreted and acted upon by those in whose hearts and minds they resonate, regardless the age that they live in. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 27, 2016, 02:30:55 am
Well, if we elect Donald Trump to the presidency we will have to thank him for one thing even if he accomplishes nothing else.   Specifically, he will have brought an end to both the Bush and Clinton political dynasties at one fell swoop.   Clearing the decks of such useless political debris is the first step righting the ship of state and getting it moving under its own power again. 

As for the possibilities you foresee at the other end of the pendulum's arc, I would leave you with a quote often attributed to Mark Twain: 

"History never repeats itself but it does rhyme."   

Just as we will never see the return of any of the great empires of the past, we will likewise never see the return of nineteenth century America.   The ideas that the nation was founded on will never truly die but they will certainly be interpreted and acted upon by those in whose hearts and minds they resonate, regardless the age that they live in.

 :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on September 27, 2016, 10:38:05 am
With any luck the political pendulum has reached the limit of its leftward swing and will begin its journey back toward sanity. 
My father and I have discussed this, and we believe it has.  It will begin to swing backward, the only question is: before or after the election?

That being said, history has shown that the pendulum does eventually change direction and when it does- it goes just as far in the opposite extreme.
True.  Eight years ago, no one would have given Trump the time of day.  In 2000, Obama would have been soundly defeated in the primaries.  But...  Obama followed eight years of Bush's nonsense, and Trump is following on the heels of eight years of America-hating incompetence by Obama. 

2. That pendulum is slow and I'll never see those changes in my lifetime.
It can also happen quite fast.  I very much doubt that you will not live to see the changes. 

Well, if we elect Donald Trump to the presidency we will have to thank him for one thing even if he accomplishes nothing else.   Specifically, he will have brought an end to both the Bush and Clinton political dynasties at one fell swoop.   Clearing the decks of such useless political debris is the first step righting the ship of state and getting it moving under its own power again. 
Another thing he has done, is provide the much-needed service of dragging the GOP away from the grasp of the evangelical 'moral values voters.'  Moral values are nice to have, but not a blueprint for running the country.  Because someday we may have a(n openly) muslim president, and I don't want his values running the country, either.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: ksuguy on September 27, 2016, 11:06:48 am
I wish I was as optimistic about getting rid of the Clintons.  I would not be surprised at all to see Chelsea running for office in a few years. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Chief45 on September 27, 2016, 11:36:18 am
well,  you do remember the "joke" that went around when Chelsea had her baby right ?   first child born in the US that was "pre-qualified" to be president ?



I wish I was as optimistic about getting rid of the Clintons.  I would not be surprised at all to see Chelsea running for office in a few years.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on September 27, 2016, 04:54:37 pm
When bearing said: "Ben's Dad must have the patience of a fluffing saint."  :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl
If Ben's mother is anything like my (second) cousin, who coincidentally sounds and even looks like the lady in the video, Ben's dad is:
- Not in the picture.
- Just another in the long list of men his whore of a mother has logged time with.
- Pigmentally Advantaged.


I hope Ben grows up to be a Republican president  :neener.
That's a fun fantasy, but the sad reality is that with a mother like that, he is probably not going to amount to much of anything.  Society's best bet is probably for him to decide he is trans and get a sex change, thus removing his mother's line from the gene pool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 27, 2016, 09:09:11 pm
https://youtu.be/9Fine-g4n40
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on September 28, 2016, 02:55:33 am
I wish I was as optimistic about getting rid of the Clintons.  I would not be surprised at all to see Chelsea running for office in a few years. 

I recall seeing an article somewhere about third world dictators and how they make sure their family members follow them into positions of power so that should they leave office before dying they can rely on their successors not to start investigating all the money that was stolen.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 28, 2016, 11:09:51 am
https://youtu.be/jQ_pf308W2A
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on September 28, 2016, 01:45:01 pm
https://youtu.be/OGDHIQsTrUc

https://youtu.be/RKImUM95dPM

https://youtu.be/S9Zz3IzU8AE



https://youtu.be/uae_ze77FPc

^TL;DR- Facts are mean.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on September 28, 2016, 10:34:16 pm
He rambles a bit but is nonetheless uncommonly clear headed in his diagnosis of the problems he speaks about. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on October 01, 2016, 09:59:34 am
Found this little gem from an episode of the BBC's "Dragon's Den" (I think the US equivalent is called "Shark Tank"). Two women have an idea to promote women in the construction industry. Unfortunately for them their maths skills and attitudes are dreadful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BfBgyWE6-c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BfBgyWE6-c)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 01, 2016, 01:51:39 pm
Found this little gem from an episode of the BBC's "Dragon's Den" (I think the US equivalent is called "Shark Tank"). Two women have an idea to promote women in the construction industry. Unfortunately for them their maths skills and attitudes are dreadful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BfBgyWE6-c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BfBgyWE6-c)

At first I felt bad for her. She was pretty nervous and pitching an idea about something you're passionate about can be pretty scary. I'm a little confused where the nervous silence broke and was overcome by an undeserved sense of superiority? I've never seen a change so fast before. From 0 confidence to 100 grandiosity, that fast  :hmm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 01, 2016, 01:55:58 pm
https://youtu.be/qf_mNiMKNlE
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on October 01, 2016, 03:38:24 pm
At first I felt bad for her. She was pretty nervous and pitching an idea about something you're passionate about can be pretty scary. I'm a little confused where the nervous silence broke and was overcome by an undeserved sense of superiority? I've never seen a change so fast before. From 0 confidence to 100 grandiosity, that fast  :hmm.

I think the shift occurred when one of the men tried to explain percentages to them and the woman dropped into feminist drone mode.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 01, 2016, 06:20:23 pm
I think the shift occurred when one of the men tried to explain percentages to them and the woman dropped into feminist drone mode.

Maybe instead of busying herself with "checking privileges", she should have checked her ego, so she could have actually gotten some financial help from someone who has "been there and done that". In my opinion. that certainly would have been the better outcome. In this instance, it literally did not pay off for her to be "right".
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 01, 2016, 09:12:00 pm
https://youtu.be/AhSQLmfbQ6Y
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 07, 2016, 12:57:09 am
Pretty compelling video from someone who has been there and done that.  Thanks for posting it.   :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 11, 2016, 08:21:07 pm
https://youtu.be/me_3mTeIbK4
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 11, 2016, 08:42:27 pm
Interesting.    :hmm     We can't approach any discussion of the so called "gender wage gap" without stipulating to the existence of "sexism" as a pre-condition to the discussion.  We can't objectively discuss a fluid societal structure in the context of how it differs from long standing traditional gender roles without accusatory language being introduced when discussing the long standing tradition. 

I suppose it begs the question;  What would a completely equitable, gender neutral society look like?  And, would anybody actually want to live in it?   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 11, 2016, 09:08:48 pm
Interesting.    :hmm     We can't approach any discussion of the so called "gender wage gap" without stipulating to the existence of "sexism" as a pre-condition to the discussion.  We can't objectively discuss a fluid societal structure in the context of how it differs from long standing traditional gender roles without accusatory language being introduced when discussing the long standing tradition. 

I suppose it begs the question;  What would a completely equitable, gender neutral society look like?  And, would anybody actually want to live in it?   :coffee

 :hmm I had to re-read this a couple times to get the gist of it. If I understand what you're saying correctly, you're asking that we agree on the definition of "sexism" before this debate even takes place, correct?

If that's the case, I think this is a good point. I frequently find myself fighting "gender normativity" (God, I hate using their language), but they hate me for it because I go about it the wrong way. I have the "wrong opinion". I encourage women to shoot and I want to reverse that horrible puritan cultural belief that women are inherently more morale and virtuous than men.

My example for virtuosity is as follows. Physicians are typically male. Nurses are typically female. You get the physicians in the room together and they will fight to back each other up, even to the point of almost being unethical if one of their own mess up.

If you take the nurses and put them all in one room, and it is the perfect day: the floor is quiet, change of shift went flawlessly, the charting and patient care are going smoothly- the nurses will still choose to kill each other with lateral professional violence. Hell, if they're bored they will try to stir s___ up. I've had the privilege to listen to Renee Thompson speak on this matter (as she is the current expert on nurse professional violence), but even then we don't know why they do it  :shrug. But we have some theories.

So yes, we should fight gender norms and establish equal opportunity. I think the best rounded individuals are those who can be sensitive and compassionate and also aggressive and protective, which are both male and female traits.

But this whole male patriarchy and micro-aggression stuff? It's for the birds.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 11, 2016, 10:48:12 pm
Actually, for the first three sentences I had my Ben Shapiro Official Sarcasm Hat on.   ;)    I was referring to the fact that no discussion of the issue is even possible with the people continually bleating about it unless you agree to stipulate their point of view as the factual basis for the ensuing talk.   It strikes me as ironic that people who continually point to statistical studies and cite supposedly scientific evidence to back their positions aren't willing to begin a conversation on an equal footing and let logic and reason hold sway.  There is clearly a fundamental misunderstanding here of the scientific method. 

Apparently once you've been indoctrinated by what passes for higher education these days you simply have no ability to comprehend anything outside your own narrow sphere of reference without labeling it in terms once used for sworn enemies.   Impure thoughts must not be allowed to enter your consciousness(?) and you must always be on guard against normalcy.    :facepalm     

The fact that someone actually considers this kind of thing worthy of "news" coverage is a whole separate issue.     :bash
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 13, 2016, 08:23:39 am
https://youtu.be/dF-AAOgtGdE
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 13, 2016, 10:54:56 pm
 :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 15, 2016, 09:44:10 pm
Starts off Trump, but gets back to Chris Rayguns normal SJW program.

https://youtu.be/7QFsbhMuh18

https://youtu.be/K-IFcCY0m3E

Here's Lauren Southern being assaulted while at a LGBTQ rally.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 16, 2016, 02:15:50 am
I'm thinking that somebody who calls me a b*tch, then runs toward me and makes contact is going to get clocked.  Usually a nice throat punch puts them on the ground for a minute or two at least.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 16, 2016, 09:45:46 am
Much happier with this clip than yesterday's. It's a good one: micro aggressions.

https://youtu.be/QHpXjPAceR8
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on October 16, 2016, 01:48:38 pm
Much happier with this clip than yesterday's. It's a good one: micro aggressions.

https://youtu.be/QHpXjPAceR8

I'd say that women being called 'Drama queen' and 'Emotional' are called that because of their behaviour.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 16, 2016, 02:08:28 pm
I'd say that women being called 'Drama queen' and 'Emotional' are called that because of their behaviour.

Agreed. It is also to my knowledge that there are meaner insults out there as well.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 16, 2016, 05:35:42 pm
https://youtu.be/q9yxNRFciaw
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 16, 2016, 09:40:05 pm
That was excellent.  You could see the train wreck coming but it was interesting to watch, nonetheless.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 17, 2016, 09:30:09 am
https://youtu.be/yYClrHPydH8
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 17, 2016, 10:03:58 am
https://youtu.be/ihhkVRc2HsI

Interesting. I noticed that Yahoo articles seemed to be getting more liberal, but I didn't realise that this stuff was going on behind the scenes.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 17, 2016, 10:27:37 am
https://youtu.be/SuJOcajEZ5I

I feel so sorry for the young man in the Trump hat. He has the patience of a saint.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 17, 2016, 12:41:12 pm
Simply can't talk to people like this.

https://youtu.be/uxr3sjqm1m0

The privilege intensifies.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 18, 2016, 01:01:55 am
I think we're dealing with actual mental illness here.   :scrutiny
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 18, 2016, 10:04:29 am
https://youtu.be/DYwY85K1MB0
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on October 18, 2016, 11:54:32 am
That's cute.  ^

Go ahead and try that tax.  Implement it.  Enforce it.  I dare you. :scrutiny

See how fast the rest of us decide to clamp down on your 'black privilege.'  Don't think you have anything to lose?  Just wait.

If I were to shoot a black cop, it would be automatically assumed that it was a 'hate crime.'
If a black cop shoots me, white people will not take to the streets.
We will not block traffic to spite the world.
We will not burn homes and businesses.
We will not kill our own kind just because it's what we do.
If we had a NAAWP, the Left would lose its s___.
If we were to demand quotas to make sure we were fairly represented in areas where we are not otherwise qualified, everyone else would laugh.

Keep in mind all of the black Americans that have made significant contributions to society.  They were not special.  Neither are you.  If they could do it, you have no excuse.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 18, 2016, 02:52:22 pm
That was pretty funny.    :cool      I think there might be a fairly high turnover among city officials or any others who actually voted to adopt this or tried to implement it. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 18, 2016, 07:46:25 pm
https://youtu.be/nO2Ae3Nw-Kg

I don't even know what to say on this one  :shocked.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 18, 2016, 07:54:00 pm
Umm .  .  . what precisely was the point of that?    :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 18, 2016, 08:45:06 pm
Umm .  .  . what precisely was the point of that?    :hmm

I'm not sure, but apparently it was some feminist groups doing.

I had to go pretty deep into the belly of the beast to find that one and I think I want my money back.

Sure guys can be jerks, but Jesus was one of the good ones. Besides, I can't imagine using a chainsaw to cut anything while I was topless. Chainsaws frequently spray out debris and that stuff can even sting your neck or cheek if it hits just right. Maybe she just has more resilient nipples than I do?  :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 18, 2016, 09:36:33 pm
There's a joke in there somewhere but I'm not entirely sure it would be in good taste .   .   .    :whistle
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 18, 2016, 09:41:13 pm
There's a joke in there somewhere but I'm not entirely sure it would be in good taste .   .   .    :whistle

You and I both know that there isn't a damn thing in this SJW thread that is "in good taste".

Poke fun at my nipples, if you must  :coffee.

:hide  :neener
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 20, 2016, 08:23:35 am
https://youtu.be/hOk4gJWSNQg

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/3/duke-university-launches-safe-space-men-consider-t/

https://youtu.be/mqt9OX-oAtU
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: aikorob on October 20, 2016, 10:24:43 am
I'm not sure, but apparently it was some feminist groups doing.

I had to go pretty deep into the belly of the beast to find that one and I think I want my money back.

Sure guys can be jerks, but Jesus was one of the good ones. Besides, I can't imagine using a chainsaw to cut anything while I was topless. Chainsaws frequently spray out debris and that stuff can even sting your neck or cheek if it hits just right. Maybe she just has more resilient nipples than I do?  :hmm

hey---at least she was wearing eye-pro
FEMEN has been around for years---topless protests are kinda their trade mark. Their original target was the sex tourism in eastern Europe.....but apparently they've branched out. I think that one was in support of the Russian band "P***y Riot" --you can see "FREE RIOT" written on her chest. The band was jailed after they did a protest in an Orthodox church a few years back.

I could probably stand to be lectured and harangued by a topless Ukrainian hottie a WHOLE lot more than the average college TrigglyPuff.      just sayin'  :whistle
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 20, 2016, 11:42:19 am
hey---at least she was wearing eye-pro
FEMEN has been around for years---topless protests are kinda their trade mark. Their original target was the sex tourism in eastern Europe.....but apparently they've branched out. I think that one was in support of the Russian band "P***y Riot" --you can see "FREE RIOT" written on her chest. The band was jailed after they did a protest in an Orthodox church a few years back.

I could probably stand to be lectured and harangued by a topless Ukrainian hottie a WHOLE lot more than the average college TrigglyPuff.      just sayin'  :whistle

No one gets a pass on their stupid ideology just cos their pretty  :coffee.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Chief45 on October 20, 2016, 05:54:15 pm
well. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . how many guys have started going to ___________ (fill in the blank) , ,  ,  ,  ,  ,  ,  ,  cause she was pretty . . . . . . . . .  :neener


No one gets a pass on their stupid ideology just cos their pretty  :coffee.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 20, 2016, 11:45:12 pm
Yeah, but we eventually grow out of it.   Or have it beaten out of us .   .   .    :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 21, 2016, 08:19:07 am
Continuing to follow this.

https://youtu.be/mGjdCrq8In8

I hope this thing falls flat. I'm not sure what they're trying to accomplish, but it seems evil. You can't just paint all of society as a power struggle between the one half of the world population you think is "privileged" and "bad" and the other half of the population which you think are nothing but victims.

Me thinks there's a disturbance in the force and it's only a matter of time before we see it come to our soil  :-\ .
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 21, 2016, 12:26:04 pm
How can so many people take this "movement" seriously, when it falls apart under the slightest scrutiny?

If I get some free time, I might have to open up my own YouTube channel or podcast one of these days, just to fight this nonsense  :banghead.

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: cpaspr on October 21, 2016, 03:56:10 pm
Okay, I was gonna respond to that picture, but I'll just take the higher ground and not inflict my thoughts on y'all.  They twern't good.   :vomit
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 21, 2016, 04:17:27 pm
Okay, I was gonna respond to that picture, but I'll just take the higher ground and not inflict my thoughts on y'all.  They twern't good.   :vomit

People like her are the reason that we want SJW's to just keep on talking. Hell, they should give Chanty Binx, Triggly puff, and that woman an hour to "intelligently" discuss their view points on national television.

Sure undoomed or Bearing might get booed for using profanity on the air, but saying "fluff" on television seems pretty tame by comparison when the other side says things like "die cis scum".
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 22, 2016, 12:43:56 am
I can see your point but part of me thinks that eventually the fever will break and this sort of sh&t will collapse from the weight of its own absurdity.   It promises to be a weird, unpleasant ride until then but eventually people with college degrees in the functional equivalent ambidextrous masturbation techniques have to find work in the real world.  At that point they come face to face with all the rest of us who don't give a rat's a&& about their opinions on much of anything and expect them to actually pull their own weight in the workplace. 

Employers and co-workers really aren't going to put up with a lot of this kind of nonsense - especially when it starts costing money.   If the most noticeable traits you possess are a bad attitude and a foul mouth you just aren't going to last long in a job where those things aren't considered valuable.  Stand-up comedians seem to make use of them and the really good ones get paid well but most of the SJW types strike me as humorless twits incapable of the most rudimentary understanding of irony.  Especially as it pertains to themselves. 

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on October 22, 2016, 04:18:30 am
An example of how an SJW's ideology was harming her child while local authorities looked the other way.

Quote
A boy aged seven has been removed from his mother’s care following concerns that she was forcing him to live “life entirely as a girl”.

Mr Justice Hayden said the woman had caused her son “significant emotional harm” after becoming “absolutely convinced” that the youngster “perceived himself as a girl” and was determined that he should be a girl.

Complaints from the father prompted a three-year legal battle, the details of which emerged yesterday in the judgment of the Family Division of the High Court in London.

The boy’s parents had separated some years ago but after the courts became aware the father was being denied contact a “wide ranging” inquiry was ordered and local authority social services staff had begun investigations.

“[His mother] told me that [he] was ‘living in stealth’, by which was meant, she explained, that he was living life entirely as a girl,” said Mr Justice Hayden in the written ruling.

“He dressed, at all times, like a girl and, it transpired, had been registered at a new general practitioner’s as a girl.”

The judge added: “I was also left in no doubt that [the mother] was absolutely convinced that [the boy] perceived himself as a girl.”

Mr Justice Hayden said his “overwhelming impression” was that the woman “believes herself to be to fighting for [her son’s] right to express himself as a girl”. He said the woman had told him how the boy “expressed disdain for his penis”.

The judge added: “I consider that [the mother] has caused significant emotional harm to [her son] in her active determination that he should be a girl.”

Mr Justice Hayden said: “I have noted from reports that [the boy] has become interested in Power Rangers, SpongeBob, Superheroes and is constantly finding new interests …

“It is striking that most of [the boy’s] interests are male-oriented. I am entirely satisfied, both on the basis of the reports and [the father’s] evidence at this hearing, that he has brought no pressure on [the boy] to pursue masculine interests. [The boy’s] interests and energy are entirely self-motivated.”

He said a report by the council’s social services department showed that concerns had been raised about the boy in 2013. Later in 2014, a health centre had added to a “clamour of concern”. A GP had requested that a social worker visit the child due to concerns around the boy possibly having gender identity disorder. No further action had been taken.

He added: “This local authority has consistently failed to take appropriate intervention."


I can't help but wonder how many other tales of children supposedly 'identifying' as the opposite gender (opposite being the right word - there are two) are in fact the victims of their parents' ideology.

Original article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/21/boy-7-removed-from-mothers-care-following-concerns-she-was-forci/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/21/boy-7-removed-from-mothers-care-following-concerns-she-was-forci/)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 22, 2016, 11:17:33 pm
https://youtu.be/4gHJoi2hpWw
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 24, 2016, 12:32:51 am
https://youtu.be/ZP3mSamRbYA
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 24, 2016, 02:46:05 am
That was painful to watch.    :banghead      The man has the patience of a saint but he needs to realize that people who are determined to have a confrontation so they can film it and impress their friends with how committed they are to the principal of "acting up" are only interested that one goal.  No amount of reasoned debate will deter them from it because that is not their purpose in being there.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 24, 2016, 08:03:51 pm
https://youtu.be/0Zup5g1uflw

Not sure if this belongs here, but it certainly seems to have some SJW elements in it.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 25, 2016, 04:02:44 pm
https://youtu.be/RUquHUQk1co
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 25, 2016, 08:32:21 pm
https://youtu.be/dx1BaxmYm58
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 26, 2016, 01:54:51 am
Those last two dovetail pretty nicely, don't they?    :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 26, 2016, 02:34:32 pm
https://youtu.be/rHOjDZP2SWY

The word "misandry" comes to mind. :banghead
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 26, 2016, 10:00:19 pm
https://youtu.be/fCjJU5bzx-E
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 26, 2016, 10:29:31 pm
https://youtu.be/WpvnO0p9KvU

Saying hello is sexual harassment  :facepalm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 27, 2016, 02:27:36 pm
WTAF   . . .   :scrutiny   

I'll just leave this here, 

"A dying culture invariable exhibits personal rudeness.  Bad manners.  Lack of consideration for others in minor matters.  A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot. "   Robert A. Heinlein
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on October 29, 2016, 07:11:18 am
Here's another gem by Paglia that actor Nick Searcy posted on FaceBook:

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/10/the-woman-is-a-disaster-camille-paglia-on-hillary-clinton/

`The woman is a disaster!’: Camille Paglia on Hillary Clinton
A wide-ranging interview with the iconoclastic professor
By Emily Hill
29 October 2016 9:00 AM

Talking to Camille Paglia is like approaching a machine gun: madness to stick your head up and ask a question, unless you want your brain blown apart by the answer, but a visceral delight to watch as she obliterates every subject in sight. Most of the time she does this for kicks. It’s only on turning to Hillary Clinton that she perpetrates an actual murder: of Clinton II’s most cherished claim, that her becoming 45th president of the United States would represent a feminist triumph.

‘In order to run for president of the United States, you have to spend two or three years of your life out on the road constantly asking for money and most women find that life too harsh, too draining,’ Paglia argues. ‘That is why we haven’t had a woman president in the United States — not because we haven’t been ready for one, for heaven’s sakes, for a very long time…’

Hillary hasn’t suffered — Paglia continues — because she is a woman. She has shamelessly exploited the fact: ‘It’s an outrage how she’s played the gender card. She is a woman without accomplishment. “I sponsored or co-sponsored 400 bills.” Oh really? These were bills to rename bridges and so forth. And the things she has accomplished have been like the destabilisation of North Africa, causing refugees to flood into Italy… The woman is a disaster!’

Not that Paglia was always opposed to the Clintons. She voted for Bill Clinton twice before becoming revolted by the treatment meted out to Monica Lewinsky: ‘One of the very first interviews I did here — the headline was “Kind of a b____ — why I like Hillary Clinton”. My jaundiced view of her is entirely the result of observing her behaviour. And last election, I voted for Jill Stein’s Green party. So I have already voted for a woman president.’

As far as most feminists are concerned, such a view is unconscionable. Gloria Steinem and Madeleine Albright made it their business to castigate American girls who wanted Bernie Sanders, while Madonna has promised a blowjob for every Clinton vote. Professor Paglia does not seem to mind much if she makes herself violently unpopular with her contemporaries — she’s an expert at it. Currently professor of the humanities at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, she first shot to fame in 1990 with the publication of Sexual Personae — a manuscript turned down by seven publishers before it became a bestseller.


Paglia’s feminism has always been concerned with issues far beyond her own navel and the Hillary verdict is typical of her attitude — which is more in touch with women in the real world than most feminists’ (a majority of Americans, for example, have an ‘unfavourable view of Hillary Clinton’ according to recent polling).

‘My philosophy of feminism,’ the New York-born 69-year-old explains, ‘I call street-smart Amazon feminism. I’m from an immigrant family. The way I was brought up was: the world is a dangerous place; you must learn to defend yourself. You can’t be a fool. You have to stay alert.’ Today, she suggests, middle-class girls are being reared in a precisely contrary fashion: cosseted, indulged and protected from every evil, they become helpless victims when confronted by adversity. ‘We are rocketing backwards here to the Victorian period with this belief that women are not capable of making decisions on their own. This is not feminism — which is to achieve independent thought and action. There will never be equality of the sexes if we think that women are so handicapped they can’t look after themselves.’

Paglia traces the roots of this belief system to American campus culture and the cult of women’s studies. This ‘poison’ — as she calls it — has spread worldwide. ‘In London, you now have this plague of female journalists… who don’t seem to have made a deep study of anything…’

Paglia does not sleep with men — but she is, very refreshingly, in favour of them. She never moans about ‘the patriarchy’ but freely asserts that manmade capitalism has enabled her to write her books.

As for male/female relations, she says that they are far more complex than most feminists insist. ‘I wrote a date-rape essay in 1991 in which I called for women to stand up for themselves and learn how to handle men. But now you have this shibboleth, “No means no.” Well, no. Sometimes “No” means “Not yet”. Sometimes “No” means “Too soon”. Sometimes “No” means “Keep trying and maybe yes”. You can see it with the pigeons on the grass. The male pursues the female and she turns away, and turns away, and he looks a fool but he keeps on pursuing her. And maybe she’s testing his persistence; the strength of his genes… It’s a pattern in the animal kingdom — a courtship pattern…’ But for pointing such things out, Paglia adds, she has been ‘defamed, attacked and viciously maligned’ — so, no, she is not in the least surprised that wolf-whistling has now been designated a hate crime in Birmingham.

Girls would be far better advised to revert to the brave feminist approach of her generation — when women were encouraged to fight all their battles by themselves, and win. ‘Germaine Greer was once in this famous debate with Norman Mailer at Town Hall. Mailer was formidable, enormously famous — powerful. And she just laid into him: “I was expecting a hard, nuggety sort of man and he was positively blousy…” Now that shows a power of speech that cuts men up. And this is the way women should be dealing with men — finding their weaknesses and susceptibilities… not bringing in an army of pseudo, proxy parents to put them down for you so you can preserve your perfect girliness.’

In an hour’s non-stop talking, Professor Paglia is only lost when asked which younger feminists she would pass the baton to. ‘I would love to inspire dissident young feminists to realise that this brand of feminism is not all feminism…’ she says, before citing Germaine Greer as the woman she admires most alive, and Amelia Earhart and Katharine Hepburn as heroines alas dead.

As with Greer, it is Paglia’s power of speech that utterly devastates. Her collected works read like a dictionary of vicious quotations. (Leaving sex to the feminists? ‘Like letting your dog vacation at the taxidermist.’ Lena Dunham? ‘She’s a big pile of pudding.’) Paglia is pro-liberty, pro–pornography, pro-prostitutes and anti- any and all special treatment when it comes to women in power: ‘I do not believe in quotas of any kind. Scandinavian countries are going in that direction and it’s an insult to women — the idea that you need a quota.’ Which brings us back to Hillary and the so-called victory her re-entering the White House would represent: ‘If Hillary wins, nothing will change. She knows the bureaucracy, all the offices of government and that’s what she likes to do, sit behind the scenes and manipulate the levers of power.’

Paglia says she has absolutely no idea how the election will go: ‘But people want change and they’re sick of the establishment — so you get this great popular surge, like you had one as well… This idea that Trump represents such a threat to western civilisation — it’s often predicted about presidents and nothing ever happens — yet if Trump wins it will be an amazing moment of change because it would destroy the power structure of the Republican party, the power structure of the Democratic party and destroy the power of the media. It would be an incredible release of energy… at a moment of international tension and crisis.’

All of a sudden, the professor seems excited. Perhaps, like all radicals in pursuit of the truth, Paglia is still hoping the revolution will come.

Camille Paglia was a speaker at the Battle of Ideas in London last weekend. Her book Free Women, Free Men: Sex, Gender, Feminism will be published next year.


Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 29, 2016, 07:58:14 am
The more I read about Paglia, the more I like her. Why the hell are feminists not making strong women like her standing figureheads in the feminist hierarchy? Women like her should be the example other feminists aspire to.

I might have to look into buying one of her books  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 30, 2016, 11:41:59 am
https://youtu.be/pTGqeIOBlfQ

Not sure if this is SJW. Calling someone beautiful is a horrible first world problem  :facepalm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on October 30, 2016, 02:24:02 pm
Talk about a first world problem.  She clearly has too much time on her hands, and not nearly enough real stress in her life.

If I were the king/ dictator for life, she would be sentenced to five years of public service in the s___tiest area on earth.  Like...  Somalia, or the slums of New Dehli.  After five years, she will have earned the right to b____ about trivial things like that.  But somehow I doubt that she would.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 30, 2016, 05:04:34 pm
If she survived five years in Somalia she'd definitely have plenty of stories to relate on YouTube.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on October 30, 2016, 06:54:29 pm
If she survived five years in Somalia she'd definitely have plenty of stories to relate on YouTube.   :coffee
Exactly.  It would be a self-correcting problem.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on October 30, 2016, 08:44:47 pm
https://youtu.be/PI5LeFo1EJU
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on October 31, 2016, 02:03:57 am
Kudos to Mr. shapiro.   Teeing it up and hitting it long.    :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 02, 2016, 08:54:09 am
https://youtu.be/lams1GeATV0

I'm glad to see a politician stand up and say that disagreeing with someone does not equal racism.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on November 02, 2016, 01:30:58 pm
https://youtu.be/lams1GeATV0

I'm glad to see a politician stand up and say that disagreeing with someone does not equal racism.

I find this very relevant to myself right now. Ever since the UK's vote to leave the EU I've seen all sorts of Remain supporting politicians claiming that "the people voted for <insert chosen reason why we can't leave the EU or need another referendum here>." But I've not heard a single one of them actually get my motives for voting to leave right.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 03, 2016, 09:11:44 pm
https://youtu.be/jpIZvD2T1_8

https://youtu.be/7ELh5o1BAdA
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 04, 2016, 12:12:47 am
Good ones.   :cool   I wonder if the Clintons and their circle of accomplices ever have nightmares starring Trey Gowdy as the U. S. Attorney General?    :panic   

Milo really hits them where they live.  Nothing makes you question your whole ideology quite like getting napalmed in your "safe space".    :clap
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 04, 2016, 12:27:17 am
Good ones.   :cool   I wonder if the Clintons and their circle of accomplices ever have nightmares starring Trey Gowdy as the U. S. Attorney General?    :panic   

Milo really hits them where they live.  Nothing makes you question your whole ideology quite like getting napalmed in your "safe space".    :clap

Thank you! :hat

I was shocked by the quote from Mrs. Paglia. I'm sure the thought of attributing any positive qualities or achievements to men would have most of today's third gen fems thrown into frothing, convulsing, trigglypuff-esque fits  :panic.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 04, 2016, 12:42:04 am
Well, it seemed to be just a throw-away line for Milo but when he made the point about all the jobs where you simply never see women working he nailed it.  When's the last time you saw a woman up on a roof toting 60 pound packs of asphalt shingles up to the comb of a steeply pitched roof?   The best welder in our high school AG shop class was a girl but oddly enough she decided it wasn't a viable career option.   I don't think I've ever seen a woman on a crew pouring concrete either now that I think about it.   There's a reason that dirty, dangerous, physically demanding jobs usually get done by men.    I know it.  You know it.  Milo knows it.  Ms. Paglia knows it.  And, the dirty little secret is that every femtard out there also knows it, deep down in the dark recesses of her consciousness where dogma confronts objective truth and loses every time. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 04, 2016, 01:15:18 am
https://youtu.be/XtxxzKNlzXo
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 04, 2016, 01:27:12 am
Well, it seemed to be just a throw-away line for Milo but when he made the point about all the jobs where you simply never see women working he nailed it.  When's the last time you saw a woman up on a roof toting 60 pound packs of asphalt shingles up to the comb of a steeply pitched roof?   The best welder in our high school AG shop class was a girl but oddly enough she decided it wasn't a viable career option.   I don't think I've ever seen a woman on a crew pouring concrete either now that I think about it.   There's a reason that dirty, dangerous, physically demanding jobs usually get done by men.    I know it.  You know it.  Milo knows it.  Ms. Paglia knows it.  And, the dirty little secret is that every femtard out there also knows it, deep down in the dark recesses of her consciousness where dogma confronts objective truth and loses every time.

Agreed, he did kind of use it as an after thought, but while I've never read the book which he took it from I am sure that it wasn't used incorrectly or out of context.

That is kind of a shame that she didn't choose that as a career choice. If a woman wants to go into a field dominated by men, I try to always support them. My little sister (step sibling) was kicking around being an engineer and my Grandmother worked in and retired from a factory up north.

I'm thankful that I have had the privilege to know many strong willed women with good work ethics and it is no exaggeration to state that the great majority of those who have influence on me in life, from mentors, co-workers, and friends have in fact been women. That is one of the things that pisses me off about feminists, because I am surrounded by such strong, admirable, and feminine company- that I look at these clips of women online and wonder "where did they come from?". It is as if 3rd gen fems strive to be dependent and piss weak. Yes everyone needs advocates and I mean everyone. Even us white, toxic masculinity filled, males  :neener. But the women I know don't whine about not having people fighting for them. If no one will fight for them, they will put on the gloves and fight for themselves. If they have no one to speak for them, they can make noise all their own.

And contrary to popular belief, they don't need a woman in the white house in order for them to be the most honourable, best versions of themselves that they can be.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 04, 2016, 01:38:42 am
Well said.  Your experience echoes my own to some degree.  Lots of strong, capable women in my life as well and I imagine all of them would have a good laugh at the antics of today's feminists(?).
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on November 04, 2016, 12:35:12 pm
And, the dirty little secret is that every femtard out there also knows it, deep down in the dark recesses of her consciousness where dogma confronts objective truth and loses every time. 
See, I don't think feminists really want parity with men in the construction and 'dirty' industries.  Some do, I am sure...  Most do not.  What they really want to have, is something to b____ about.  "Look at all those men running heavy equipment!  Patriarchy!!!!!!"

They b____ about a wage gap that is mostly self-created.  They b____ about not being equally represented in every facet of life, when really the only place they want more positions is the board room.  Executive positions.  What they want is the opportunity to order others (particularly men) around, call the budgetary shots, make decisions that should probably be left to others more qualified, and then collect huge severance pay when they are fired for incompetence.

Methinks someone ought to introduce them to the institution of Marriage.  That's basically what they want, though no feminist would ever admit it.  Boss around the husband.  Spend his money.  Make decisions that no one else wants, (that he pays for) and then collect alimony when he finds out she has been playing for another team.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on November 04, 2016, 02:06:29 pm
Well here's an example of one feminist's view of how the world ought to be. Basically it reds like a fascist version of the stone age in which the human race will be doomed to extinction within a few decades.

https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/ (https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/)

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UTOPIA: what would a women’s society look like?

 Published October 7, 2014

 

I haven’t been writing in a while, and it’s not because I don’t like writing any more but things have accelerated elsewhere in my life and I can’t be involved everywhere at once. As this isn’t paid work, obviously I can’t afford to put blogging first.

Anyway, there are still many posts waiting to be finished. In the meantime, I’ll start another one.

I often muse about all the things that we’d need to change about patriarchy if we abolished men’s rule over women and the earth. Everything and every single aspect of social organisation is so much the opposite of how it should be, it’s dizzying to even begin to think about all the things we should stop / change.

Mostly it’s about men stopping from doing harm. But stopping men isn’t enough because beyond that there is the entire world to relearn, to heal, and our entire society to rebuild. We would be faced with the immense task of replacing all the misogynist, genocidal, biocidal practices men have ordered our society with for eons. So many of us now are acculturated, cut from land, nature and from one another.

If we managed to overcome men’s tyranny over us, how would we rebuild our world? I just want to throw some ideas here that I often come across these days. I dream for concrete, down-to-earth, simple and easily applicable measures of stepping out of patriarchy into a female-loving, biophilic world. This isn’t by any means a realistic plan of how to achieve it, but just reading it makes me feel happy. It makes it feel more real, more possible. Enjoy!

SOCIAL STRUCTURES

Men’s position in society

Before we do anything, the very first measure to adopt is to take all men out of all positions of decision-making immediately, and actually out of any kind of social, professional position whatsoever.

Major serial killers, serial torturers, pimps, pornographers, severe domestic abusers, serial rapists, genocide planners, biocide planners and pedocriminals across the world will simply be euthanised: the decisions will be taken by women in a mass world tribunal for patriarchal crimes. This is by far the best solution, and is the most legitimate, ethical way of reducing male population to more reasonable levels. Such men would otherwise forever pose a threat to women, children, animals, the earth and society as a whole, and we know they have no chance of ceasing their violent behaviour after having reached such an advanced stage of sadism and sociopathy. It would be reckless to spend space, resources and energy in keeping them alive in prisons.

All of men’s (alive and euthanised) belongings, property, resources and land will be confiscated from men and handed back to female care and supervision – property rights over land will be abolished. You can’t own land!

All men at least above 15 (or younger if very asocial) should live separately from women and children, on their own in small huts or studios, isolated from one another and scattered around so that women can keep an eye on them (they should never be in groups or packs, that would be illegal). So it would also be illegal for male adults to impose their presence on females, girls and children. Men would have to care for themselves on their own: food, laundry, etc. No male above his age of puberty would be allowed to receive any kind of service from a female. Their life expectancy would probably drop to the age of 40, but that’s how things should be. Women’s life expectancy without men would rise to 130 years at least.

PIV would be illegal too of course, as well as the initiation of any verbal or physical contact to women and girls or boy children, unless solicited by a woman for specific matters. I’m not sure what to do about boy children. Obviously you know my opinion, but let’s say that’s up to the mother to decide what she wants to do before he turns of age to leave the female family circle.

In order to keep all men and post-pubescent boys busy, we’d send them to clean up the vast amounts of detritus, pollution and toxic wastes men have littered and almost killed the world with. Much of the damage to the earth is irreversible, however with a great deal of effort and genius, women will find sustainable, natural and simple ways of healing a lot of the damage men have caused, and send men off to do the dirty work. No man will be allowed to take any decision without female guidance. We know what happens when men decide on their own! DISASTER.

Family, child-raising and reproduction

Fathers’ rights will cease to exist. There is no such thing as fatherhood — as we all know, it’s a myth. Men will necessarily lose all and any power to dominate and control women’s reproductive capacities.

It’s the inalienable right of each woman to control every phase of her reproduction and life creation. Abortion will be possible at any stage of pregnancy, however there will hardly be such a thing as undesired pregnancy since there won’t be any men forcing pregnancies on us any more. Abortion will nonetheless be recognised for the trauma, mutilation and loss of life that it is. The number of children and human population will naturally decrease to sustainable levels, so will the number of males born. Women will be free to experiment parthenogenesis or procreation with two female eggs.

The nuclear family will be abolished, in particular the parent’s property rights and absolute power over her child. Children will be considered as persons in need for autonomy and all form of punishment, authority or educational manipulation over children will equally be abolished. Raising and caring for children will be a collective responsibility for women, and motherhood / childcare and especially capacity to be empathetic towards children will be taken very seriously, as something that needs to be (re)learned and studied over years before being fully competent for this immense task.

Schools as we know them as punitive reclusion centres for grooming into male domination and female subordination (as well as selection system for elite executors of patriarchal institutions) will be abolished. Boys would definitely not be around the girls, certainly not most of the time, and never beyond the age of puberty. And obviously no adult male would be allowed near children.

There will be no such thing as “teachers” with positions of authority over children. “Guiders” could learn also from the children or students as much the students from them. We’d learn anything we’d want from languages to sciences to art to music to medicine to building to witchcraft to swimming (etc) without restriction of age or time, as long as it’s adapted to our capacities, level and availability. Learning would be autonomous, with guidance when needed, instead of enforced and dictated. They’d be no need for external reward, marking or punishment because the process of learning in itself is so rewarding and fascinating that it’s self-sufficient. Anyway I could go on and on, non-patriarchal learning is truly riveting.

Social structures between women.

All relationships of authority, domination and subordination will be abolished between all women of all ages. We will be able to recognise each other’s strengths, expertise, guidance and capacities (or lack of) without it implying superiority, inferiority, veneration or lack of respect. We would find each other beautiful. We would live our friendships, love and affection for women unhindered.

MEN’S INSTITUTIONS

All oppressive male institutions will be abolished after men have been retrieved from them. We obviously won’t keep these institutions. They will return to the nothingness that they belong, just as a distant, bad memory.

Military:

No more military, no more army, no more wars! It would be illegal for men to hold weapons. Global peace would be the immediate consequence. Most weapons will be destroyed (or recycled into something else), such as weapons of mass destruction, anti-personnel mines, tanks, machine guns, all manners of terrestrial, marine and air-bombers, and all the many disgusting things men have invented. For the remaining weapons such as guns or blades, women will hold exclusive right of use over them in order to defend ourselves from men, from the risk of them taking power over us again.

State:

States, borders, nations, laws would be abolished and totally dispensed with. Laws mentioning the number of prohibited acts will be kept for men only. Women do not need laws to contain ourselves. Laws were created by the male elite to protect their property from other men. Laws are rigid and static, that’s because their purpose is to hold existing patriarchal powers in place. Our own society would be in constant evolution, improvement, creative renewal, yet grounded in reality and adapted to our needs and circumstances.

Women would be able to move freely.

Societal structures and decision-making assemblies wouldn’t exceed roughly 300 women (representing no more than themselves). Keeping numbers low for cooperation is important because the greater the size of the unit, the more horizontal cooperation becomes difficult and requires vertical hierarchy. Possibilities for peaceful, cooperative organisation between women are infinite – as long as they respect the individual integrity of every female – the group should never weigh over the individual but be a source for support and efficient organisation of collective life and space. There could easily be associations of exchange between different groups and peoples in order for women to cooperate regionally and globally where necessary. There would be no limit in age of participation in decision-making for women and girls, which means adapting the format to different ages and capacities.

Medicine:

Men would be permanently banned from any kind of medical practice. All woman-hating, genocidal institutions such as gynecology, psychiatry, obstetrics, big pharma, the torture of living beings in the name of “scientific experimentation” will be banned. Men’s fragmented, objectifying, sadistic view the human body will be part of history, replaced by biophilic medicine. Medical science will no longer be monopolised by a small elite but available to all at any age where appropriate. The (female) doctor’s role will be to guide the patient in her own healing, never to exercise authority over her or take decisions at her expense. Special healing spaces (where surgery is necessary, etc) will be so nice, warm and welcoming that just being there will make you feel better. The soul and life conditions of a person will always be considered part of the body, and symptoms will always be understood in a holistic way. There will be no more chemical, synthetic and toxic products with often worse side effects than the illness itself it claims to heal.

Perfect health would be the normal state of women anyway, as we will learn by experience and observation what we should eat and do to stay healthy at all seasons and times. Most women will have rediscovered our healing, divination and extra-sensory communication powers.

Religion:

Patriarchal religions will crumble down with men’s oppressive system. Religious ideologies, along with its hierarchies and vacuous rituals will cease to exist. I believe a woman’s world would be spiritual. Spiritual connection isn’t based on faith but on critical observation and experience, on a real personal connection to the elements, beings and spirits that surround us, and on the real magnetic power of beings.

Economy (tied to ecology):

Obviously, Slavery, men’s exploitation of women, men’s capitalist systems will be abolished too. The most important aspect of male economy is that it’s based on men’s competitive accumulation of resources (by killing, destroying, commodifying, taking control over, extracting the greatest possible amount of life) and based on production of poisonous, addictive, programmed obsolescent goods — in order to win the patriarchal game of achieving greater domination over women and girls.

This necrophilic relationship to the world and the environment will be abolished, to be replaced by biophilic ecological and economic principles. This will encompass every single process of our life activities, from house building, to food consumption, to communication, travelling, furniture making, cooking, etc. They will have to be carefully designed and thought out in a way as to never endanger the survival of any species, never pollute any environment, never require the use of poisonous, non-recyclable materials, never to require indentured labour or exploitation in order to be maintained. This would obviously impact the nature and scale of our activities. “Work” (exploitation and division of labour) as we know it would disappear. It would be the responsibility of each individual or group to sustain herself more or less autonomously.

We should learn to observe our environment and deeply understand the interconnectedness of all beings around us, as well our own impact before deciding whether or how to transform it. Our lives have no more or no less value than those of a rabbit, fly, tree, plant, fish, seashell or stone. For instance, if we pick leaves of some plants, it’s important not to rip the whole plant off, to take only parts of it so it can grow again. Or to only take a few plants (or seashells, whatever) where there are many, so to respect the survival of the species where it is settled. If we cut trees to build our house, replant them. There are also infinite ways of making the most of materials for energy, food or production while using it as efficiently as possible. Building houses in ways that don’t require heating in winter or cooling in the summer. It is now widely known that energy such as electricity can be infinitely renewable if we use wind power, magnetic power, water power… And everything can be made DIY.

We will learn to be autonomous again and make our own clothes, food, furniture, houses, soaps, detergent products – or maybe someone else will make them but most things can be handmade and it’s so much more rewarding.

In a biophilic world, nothing is garbage, nothing is pollution. Everything is conceived so as to be part of a life cycle. This doesn’t mean we should keep the same toothbrush for 50 years or never improve on our machines, technology and infrastructure, but there’s no such thing as a dump, or toxic spilling. All materials should be harmless, recyclable or biodegradable, given back the earth if we no longer need them.

Industrial agriculture and farming:

Genetic modification of plants, pesticides, monoculture, field ploughing and consequent aridification of the land will be considered criminal. Our right to self-sustenance would no more be confiscated by mega food corporations – as they will no longer exist.

Agriculture should always be small-scale, local, and as much as possible be modelled on wildlife, self-growing / self-renewing conditions (the less work and intervention, the better), and especially be conceived so as to nourish and sustain rather than deplete wildlife and environmental balance. Again, possibilities are infinite, we have so much to learn.

And seriously, killing animals you’ve raised yourself in a farm or keeping animals enclosed is cruel. I’m for the liberation of all farm and domestic animals. It’s up to them to decide whether they want to live with us or not, and they should be able to come and go freely. Maybe after a few decades, after the human population has stalled, male population has decreased, and after we’ve made serious efforts for reforestation and restoration of wildlife on the earth, it would probably be fairer to hunt animals occasionally. Right now, given the extinction rate of animal species, I find it criminal to hunt or fish. We don’t need to eat that much meat anyway.

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This post is already too long!

I hope you got the point of it though. It isn’t so much as dictating what women should do but establishing basic principles of respect of life and female integrity along which we can devise an infinite number of possibilities.

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 04, 2016, 02:22:37 pm
Methinks someone ought to introduce them to the institution of Marriage.  That's basically what they want, though no feminist would ever admit it.  Boss around the husband.  Spend his money.  Make decisions that no one else wants, (that he pays for) and then collect alimony when he finds out she has been playing for another team.

:shocked

If I'm allowed to state the obvious, that scenario sounds most disagreeable.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 04, 2016, 02:32:40 pm
Well here's an example of one feminist's view of how the world ought to be. Basically it reds like a fascist version of the stone age in which the human race will be doomed to extinction within a few decades.

https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/ (https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/)

I appreciate you posting this, but I couldn't make it through the entire article. When I got to the part of how Women don't need laws to contain themselves, because only Men are impulsive and lack self-control, I was done with it.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on November 04, 2016, 02:41:51 pm
:shocked

If I'm allowed to state the obvious, that scenario sounds most disagreeable.
You can call it as you like, but that is the textbook description of a marriage with a stay at home wife.  Some are better, some are worse.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 04, 2016, 02:45:24 pm
You can call it as you like, but that is the textbook description of a marriage with a stay at home wife.  Some are better, some are worse.

I don't think we are disagreeing here Kaso, we both agree that the scenario as you explained it above is not a fun one to be in :coffee .

That being said, there are some good Women out there. You just have to look really hard to find them :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on November 04, 2016, 02:47:55 pm
Well here's an example of one feminist's view of how the world ought to be. Basically it reds like a fascist version of the stone age in which the human race will be doomed to extinction within a few decades.

https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/ (https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/)

I don't think that was actually meant to be taken seriously.  If it was, someone is off of her meds.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on November 04, 2016, 02:50:14 pm
I don't think we are disagreeing here Kaso, we both agree that the scenario as you explained it above is not a fun one to be in :coffee .
If you look past how the situation would make you feel personally, and to what I originally said, what feminists really want out of life is a position that has been afforded women since the beginning of time: bossy, b____y, stay-at-home housewife.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 05, 2016, 05:49:27 pm
Well here's an example of one feminist's view of how the world ought to be. Basically it reds like a fascist version of the stone age in which the human race will be doomed to extinction within a few decades.

https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/ (https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/)


Awesome talent at work here.  Right up there with the best of Monty Python during their heyday.   :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 05, 2016, 06:11:12 pm
https://youtu.be/ivy_aEVdKFg
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 05, 2016, 06:12:03 pm
Awesome talent at work here.  Right up there with the best of Monty Python during their heyday.   :rotfl

But... I don't thin she was joking...  :shocked
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 05, 2016, 06:40:29 pm
Funny stuff there - whether it was intended that way or not.  I certainly wasn't kidding when I compared it to Monty Python.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 05, 2016, 06:49:43 pm
Funny stuff there - whether it was intended that way or not.  I certainly wasn't kidding when I compared it to Monty Python.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c

 :facepalm Oh my goodness, thank you for sharing  :rotfl.

The dots are now connected and I now understand the saying of "life imitates art".
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 05, 2016, 09:03:35 pm
https://youtu.be/47SXXizFpWU

https://youtu.be/IHoGpnxCQDg
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 05, 2016, 09:40:37 pm
When you find yourself out maneuvered, out gunned and unable to impress your adversary in any way, the only course that makes any sense is to withdraw.  Or queue on the right in this case.   :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 05, 2016, 09:44:20 pm
When you find yourself out maneuvered, out gunned and unable to impress your adversary in any way, the only course that makes any sense is to withdraw.  Or queue on the right in this case.   :rotfl

Logically Milo wasn't outgunned, the opposition just was unimpressed and boorish  :cool.

I'm sure that they had a very polite convo after his 5 minutes break was over  :coffee.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 05, 2016, 09:55:17 pm
Au contraire, mon ami .  When your only fallback position is to increase the volume level of your question/accusation - you are INDEED outgunned by any measure.   And I seriously doubt there was any waiting around for polite conversation afterwards.   Once you've been bested in a public forum, most of that ilk have no stomach for a second helping. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 07, 2016, 10:47:23 pm
https://youtu.be/qJc_D7ufoTg
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 08, 2016, 01:08:14 am
 At about the 1:30 mark in the video you can see just how popular she is as a featured speaker.  You're likely to see more people waiting at the Toronto subway platform than were in that auditorium.  I wonder if the Canadian health care program has a body mass index measurement?  That probably ticks her off as well.    :neener   

That brings to mind a question that this thread has not yet answered.  Is there a hierarchy of offense?  I understand that there is a whole catalog of things that Social Justice Wankers find objectionable but I think it would be useful to have some sort of guide to refer to for those of  us who are not part of the cognoscenti.   :hmm    A ranking system of some sort from the truly grave and heinous offenses down to the merely annoying ones would be helpful. 

I hesitate to even mention the entertainment value of watching a group of the perpetually offended trying to determine who among them is the most aggrieved.    :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 08, 2016, 01:11:37 am
At about the 1:30 mark in the video you can see just how popular she is as a featured speaker.  You're likely to see more people waiting at the Toronto subway platform than were in that auditorium.  I wonder if the Canadian health care program has a body mass index measurement?  That probably ticks her off as well.    :neener   

That brings to mind a question that this thread has not yet answered.  Is there a hierarchy of offense?  I understand that there is a whole catalog of things that Social Justice Wankers find objectionable but I think it would be useful to have some sort of guide to refer to for those of  us who are not part of the cognoscenti.   :hmm    A ranking system of some sort from the truly grave and heinous offenses down to the merely annoying ones would be helpful.

Sir, I have got to be up early and on campus tomorrow, but give me a few and I'll see what I can find. If I cannot quote a respected authority on the subject matter at hand, I will list my own take on things via what I have gathered in the field.

As long as I have spent in the belly of the beast, I would assume that I can come up with something on my own if given a bit to ponder it  :hmm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 08, 2016, 09:36:47 am
https://youtu.be/C9SiRNibD14

"Apologise for your opinion". Those are fighting words.

This reminds me of an interview I listened to in the radio about the demolishing of western science and making new indigenous science. The woman that the ABC was interviewing was a crunchy granola feminist type who said that while western science is bad, she has a dream about a rock teaching her the history of her people and so she found that rock and talked with it for decades. This is what she said should be taught and in the textbooks.

If I can find that interview, I'll post it because it was..... It was fascinating stuff....  :facepalm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 08, 2016, 10:03:00 am
https://youtu.be/JjBkEH4iJKM
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 08, 2016, 07:18:49 pm
https://youtu.be/K07uIzxkfQc
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 08, 2016, 07:33:10 pm
https://youtu.be/5dWng3YEPAA
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on November 08, 2016, 07:38:49 pm
https://youtu.be/K07uIzxkfQc
This is the best answer to the question that I have ever heard.  It's not about morals, or feelings, or opinions, but Fact.  Trannies can carve themselves up into whatever they wish, but chromosomes are chromosomes.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 08, 2016, 10:27:33 pm
Regarding reply #206 :   Apparently apples do not fall from trees in Africa - or if they do it has not been observed by Africans - or if it has,
                                  they attribute it to black magic instead of gravity.    :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 08, 2016, 10:30:02 pm
Regarding reply # 207 :   I've said it before but it bears repeating.  Professor Peterson has the patience of a saint.  I wonder if he ever gets
                                   tired of checkmating the opposition?   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 08, 2016, 10:32:37 pm
Regarding reply # 208 :   Mr. Shapiro uses reason, logic and the language like a surgeon uses a scalpel.  Very nice.    :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 08, 2016, 10:35:05 pm
Regarding reply # 209 :    Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you.  Unless you're a brainless femtard.  In that case the
                                    bear always eats you.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 08, 2016, 10:45:40 pm
Regarding reply # 207 :   I've said it before but it bears repeating.  Professor Peterson has the patience of a saint.  I wonder if he ever gets
                                   tired of checkmating the opposition?   :hmm

Most definitely, I think we may need to keep an eye on him, as he could be a regular on this thread if he keeps up his fantastic debates. I love how he doesn't make it a SJW issue, he makes it a constitutional rights issue.

Regarding reply # 208 :   Mr. Shapiro uses reason, logic and the language like a surgeon uses a scalpel.  Very nice.    :thumbup1

Agreed. He is my continued inspiration on what to aspire to when debating others.

Regarding reply # 209 :    Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you.  Unless you're a brainless femtard.  In that case the
                                    bear always eats you.   :coffee

Bearing is a top bloke  :cool. Sure he has a foul mouth, but that is mainly a culture divide. He actually is much more poltie and friendly than Undoomed. I also enjoy Undoomed though as well  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 09, 2016, 08:21:25 pm
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8261651/donald-trump-victory-failed-women/

America failed women somehow, because Donald Trump won the election.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 10, 2016, 01:06:47 am
Read that one.  Then read the other related articles posted alongside it.   :facepalm    What a crock of sh*t.  I think I need a shower.   :vomit

I've heard a lot of talk in the last 24 hours about "unity" and "the need to come together and solve our problems" and lots of other high sounding rhetoric but the people writing these blogs and articles aren't constrained by the need to put on a good face for the TV cameras and make the best of it.  Their rhetoric is as vile and disturbing as it was in the weeks leading up to the election.  If anything they seem to have lost what little self restraint they may have had prior to their stunning defeat.
  No less a personage than our "esteemed" current president reminded us, after his inauguration, that he won and that elections have consequences.  Indeed.  I hope our "friends" on the left are ready for a heaping helping of consequences.    :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 10, 2016, 07:59:12 pm
https://youtu.be/0fpfWIGMMxs
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 10, 2016, 08:39:18 pm
https://youtu.be/KLP9bFee4sI
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 11, 2016, 12:46:31 pm
OK.  She convinced me.  I'm an egalitarian.    :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 11, 2016, 01:19:51 pm
OK.  She convinced me.  I'm an egalitarian.    :coffee

I am as well  :cool. While at first blush, people often confuse the two as being the same, I've actually got a pretty good explanation to differentiate the two.

Egalitarianism- men and women are seen as equals.

Third gen fem- Misandrist religious cult with faux equality talking points and typified by whinging, an outrage/victim complex, and public histrionics.

For example, if you are naked and destroying public property at the local church with a chainsaw, you might either be crazier than Hitler's house cat, or just a feminist fighting the unseen patriarchy. I'm really not sure if there is a difference between the two  :hmm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on November 11, 2016, 01:35:53 pm
OK.  She convinced me.  I'm an egalitarian.    :coffee

I am as well  :cool. While at first blush, people often confuse the two as being the same, I've actually got a pretty good explanation to differentiate the two.
 
 :bash :bash :bash

 :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 11, 2016, 01:48:09 pm
https://youtu.be/b3OGYt7kOHM
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Sock Monkey on November 11, 2016, 03:20:40 pm
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8261651/donald-trump-victory-failed-women/

America failed women somehow, because Donald Trump won the election.


The writer/whiner repeatedly asserts that Clinton is a superbly-qualified candidate with "decades of experience." (It's actually 15 years experience.) I can't tell if people actually believe that, or if they're just pushing a talking a point.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 11, 2016, 04:07:28 pm
https://youtu.be/kwCvZbok9jU
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on November 11, 2016, 04:35:26 pm
What.  In.  The.  Absolute.  Hell???

 :scrutiny

It is people such as that 'female' that make their own best case for mandatory sterilization. :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 11, 2016, 04:55:57 pm
What.  In.  The.  Absolute.  Hell???

 :scrutiny

It is people such as that 'female' that make their own best case for mandatory sterilization. :facepalm

As someone who is devoted to health science and the study of anatomy, that video was very difficult for me to watch  :shocked.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: aikorob on November 11, 2016, 05:06:53 pm
That brings to mind a question that this thread has not yet answered.  Is there a hierarchy of offense?  I understand that there is a whole catalog of things that Social Justice Wankers find objectionable but I think it would be useful to have some sort of guide to refer to for those of  us who are not part of the cognoscenti.   :hmm    A ranking system of some sort from the truly grave and heinous offenses down to the merely annoying ones would be helpful. 

I hesitate to even mention the entertainment value of watching a group of the perpetually offended trying to determine who among them is the most aggrieved.    :cool


Sir, I have got to be up early and on campus tomorrow, but give me a few and I'll see what I can find. If I cannot quote a respected authority on the subject matter at hand, I will list my own take on things via what I have gathered in the field.

As long as I have spent in the belly of the beast, I would assume that I can come up with something on my own if given a bit to ponder it  :hmm.

Please---a rating system would be most helpful. In addition to the entertainment value Coelacanth mentioned, if I have the opportunity to troll or annoy SJWs, I would like a goal to aim for.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 11, 2016, 05:24:02 pm

Please---a rating system would be most helpful. In addition to the entertainment value Coelacanth mentioned, if I have the opportunity to troll or annoy SJWs, I would like a goal to aim for.

 :rotfl Ok, Ok.

Let me try my hand at this, this is what I could whip up in 5 minutes.

Ranking from most offensive to the least offensive (granted there are degrees).

1. "Racism" and "sexism" in the form of microaggressions are the most offensive. Ex. I am German, if you have a barbecue and you offer me a bratwurst, then you are a racist bigot who needs to check your privilege.

2. White privilege and internalised misogyny (such as holding open a door for a woman which is also known as "benevolent sexism").

3. Patriarchy. No one really knows what it is, but it is everywhere and it is coming to get you. I like to call it the "feminist boogeyman".

4. Cultural misappropriation (such as our example with the Hula girl doll).

5. Supporting Gendernormative behaviour (such as having a woman wear an engagement ring or expecting stoicism from men).

6. Not respecting pronouns (This one is put closer to last because there is a specific anti-transgender branch of feminism out there in the works).

7. Cecil the lion and Harambe

We can throw some other things like "slut shaming" and how everyone who is not a vegan is morally inferior out there, but then we are going into things outside of SJW's I believe.

The list was shoddily put together, but this is my understanding of the culture as is. It is not an exhaustive list.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on November 11, 2016, 05:26:29 pm
Judging by the events of the past couple of years I'd say that SJWs rank muslims over the LGBTQWTF community which is why a muslim terrorist shooting up a gay nightclub can only be discussed in terms of homophobia. In turn the LGBTQWTF community ranks above women which is why Bruce Jenner could win woman of the year and feminists can be "no platformed" for opposing some of what the LGBTQWTF movement wants.
Of course should a muslim, homosexual, transsexual or woman refuse to conform to the SJW imposed stereotypes such as Milo Yiannopoulos, Blair White or Sarah Palin then the above does not apply and they may as well be a straight white AR15 owning Christian man.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 11, 2016, 05:42:39 pm
Judging by the events of the past couple of years I'd say that SJWs rank muslims over the LGBTQWTF community which is why a muslim terrorist shooting up a gay nightclub can only be discussed in terms of homophobia. In turn the LGBTQWTF community ranks above women which is why Bruce Jenner could win woman of the year and feminists can be "no platformed" for opposing some of what the LGBTQWTF movement wants.
Of course should a muslim, homosexual, transsexual or woman refuse to conform to the SJW imposed stereotypes such as Milo Yiannopoulos, Blair White or Sarah Palin then the above does not apply and they may as well be a straight white AR15 owning Christian man.

This seems to be the case. If you are not in a protected class and do not support the cult, then you are ignorant and need to educate yourself. If you are a protected class and refuse to submit to the ideals of the cult, then you are a victim of internalised Misogyny.

If you do not submit after they tell you about the above, then you are a political enemy and a threat to the movement and they will use any strategy from public shaming, slander, and political intimidation to try to destroy you.

That is what I have seen so far as they pick random people to go after.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 11, 2016, 10:00:31 pm
See?  Now we're getting somewhere.  :thumbup1   

If I offer you a bratwurst at the barbecue, its because all the hamburgers are gone.  But WAIT!  Hamburgers refer to a German heritage as well!  Crap!  Now you're doubly offended!  I must make amends.  Here, have a beer.   Oh no, I've done it again!  The shame  :panic   the anguish   :panic   .      :facepalm

How am I doing so far? 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on November 12, 2016, 01:32:32 am
...the LGBTQWTF community...
Are they really up to that many letters now?  I thought there was an A in there as well?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: aikorob on November 12, 2016, 03:50:50 am
Quote from: stephendutton on Yesterday at 05:26:29 PM

    ...the LGBTQWTF community...
Are they really up to that many letters now?  I thought there was an A in there as well?

A is for A**hole
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 12, 2016, 11:22:24 am
Then why doesn't it come first on the list?   :scrutiny  .  .  .   :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 12, 2016, 12:10:21 pm
On a more serious note, I have mentioned before that I believe the Social Justice Wankers are people with actual, active, mental illness.  If you doubt this, I would ask you to review a clinical definition of HPD or, Histrionic Personality Disorder .   Psychological professionals list this as a "Cluster B" disorder.  Also of note is the corollary of "Sabotage" under the subheading of personality traits or disorders.  Absorb that information and then look at the videos posted in this thread and also the videos that have been all over the news of the rioting in various cities this week and then tell me if you think I'm right or wrong.

 There is a lot of online info but I found this site to me pretty helpful in terms of being easy to navigate with clearly written descriptions and a minimum of technical jargon :   www.outofthefog.website   The Wikipedia page isn't bad either for a general overview.  Its a bit long but seems to be fairly well researched and footnoted :   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 12, 2016, 12:40:34 pm
On a more serious note, I have mentioned before that I believe the Social Justice Wankers are people with actual, active, mental illness.  If you doubt this, I would ask you to review a clinical definition of HPD or, Histrionic Personality Disorder .   Psychological professionals list this as a "Cluster B" disorder.  Also of note is the corollary of "Sabotage" under the subheading of personality traits or disorders.  Absorb that information and then look at the videos posted in this thread and also the videos that have been all over the news of the rioting in various cities this week and then tell me if you think I'm right or wrong.

 There is a lot of online info but I found this site to me pretty helpful in terms of being easy to navigate with clearly written descriptions and a minimum of technical jargon :   www.outofthefog.website   The Wikipedia page isn't bad either for a general overview.  Its a bit long but seems to be fairly well researched and footnoted :   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder

Thank you for posting the info!

I'm going to be facetious and say that I don't need it though  :cool. I have a decent amount of psychology under my belt  :P.

I was actually thinking of going back to previous psych notes and posting the 6 criteria for what constitutes mental illness. I don't think it's quite histrionicism, but it might be something. One of those 6 criteria that I mentioned earlier is a behaviour that is against social norms and sadly, as long as we as a society put up with and even encourage this behaviour, then it is considered "normal".
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 12, 2016, 01:31:27 pm
Frankly, the whole category of dramatic personality disorders has some relevance here but particularly "Cluster B" and within that category particularly "HPD" with the addition of the "Sabotage" component.  Granted, I'm not a mental health professional - or even an amateur for that matter - but when you are on the receiving end of this kind of thing you figure it out pretty quickly.  Make no mistake - we have been on the receiving end quite a bit lately and I don't think we're done with it yet.  It seems to me that the real question is how we deal with it, not only as a society but on an individual basis when we encounter it. 

Your point that it constitutes behavior that is "against social norms" is correct but when dealing with people who exhibit HPD their primary motivation is to exhibit behavior that is clearly outside those norms in order to elicit a response from you and then escalate the situation from there.   My primary motivation is to derail that whole train full of manure before it leaves the station and gets up to speed.    :coffee 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: aikorob on November 13, 2016, 07:44:10 am
since most of the butthurt & whiners seem to believe that signing petitions and tweeting will actually solve problems.............
here is a little sauce for the goose:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/help-deport-celebrities-who-say-they-want-move-canada-because-trump-president



Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 13, 2016, 11:06:22 am
https://youtu.be/5vS2Oichf7M
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 13, 2016, 11:19:46 am
 :scrutiny   I wonder if a Canadian MP could propose having a nationwide Armed Forces Day in every public school in the country as a condition of continued funding for that school.  Sort of a day to showcase the armed forces from their perspective in classrooms across the country and interaction between members of the armed forces and students. Does Canada even have something equivalent to our own ROTC programs here?   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on November 14, 2016, 01:10:22 pm
Turns out clearing the snow from roads can be sexist.
Good job Sweden is on the case.
Or maybe it isn't.

Quote
Politicians in Stockholm said the policy of “gender-equal” snow removal has failed after the weather brought Sweden’s capital to a standstill last week, with hospitals reporting a fourfold increase in broken bones.

The city switched to a “feminist” system of clearing snow last winter but last week’s burst of snow, which threw the city into chaos, has cast doubt on its effectiveness.

Hundreds of thousands of people were affected, with the majority of bus routes put out of service and commuters having to wait in queues for several hours.

Previously, fresh snowfalls were cleared first from main roads and by areas like construction sites before being removed from pavements and cycle lanes. As men are more likely to drive and women more likely to travel on foot, more women slipped on the ice which led to complaints that the system was sexist.

Vice-mayor of Stockholm, the Green Party’s Daniel Helldén, admitted that “equality snow removal” had failed the city, and apologised to residents who had injured themselves as a result.

When the Red-Green coalition, comprising politicians from the Social Democratic Party, Green Party, Left Party, and Feminist Initiative, were elected to City Hall in 2014 the introduction of a “feminist” snow clearance was high on the agenda.

But police last week said the system is so bad, with ambulances unable to make their way along Stockholm’s roads, it posed a danger to society. Officer Fredrik Ståhle branded the conditions for drivers in the city “deplorable”.

Opposition vice-mayor Cecilia Brinck called the concept of “gender-equal” snow removal “a little silly”. The Moderate party politician said despite the promise that feminist snow-clearing would make life better for women, its implementation made the weather “bad for everyone”.

Per Ossmer and Martin Westmont from the Sweden Democrats said that the city’s snow clearance plan should not be “characterised by a feminist perspective”.

Speaking for the populist party in a piece for Stockholm Direkt, the pair advised that politicians prioritise delivering an effective transport system over investing “considerable resources” in “gender certifying” various services.

Original article
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/14/gender-equal-snow-removal-policy/ (http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/14/gender-equal-snow-removal-policy/)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 14, 2016, 01:25:33 pm
Turns out clearing the snow from roads can be sexist.
Good job Sweden is on the case.
Or maybe it isn't.

Original article
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/14/gender-equal-snow-removal-policy/ (http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/14/gender-equal-snow-removal-policy/)

 :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

I'm glad they were on the case! They stated it themselves in black and white that adopting a feminist methodology took an imperfect system that had some downfalls and turned it into a "danger to society". Feminism just made things worse, and not only that, they discriminated against non-gender binary/gender queer/ transgender individuals by only listing the preferred transportation methods of those who identify as either "male" or "female". Stockholm really has to get its act together  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: ksuguy on November 14, 2016, 03:30:58 pm
Maybe the ladies should help with the snow shoveling?   Of course they might get cold doing it in bikinis.  Since that is what all the women in Sweden dress like according to those old beer commercials.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Chief45 on November 14, 2016, 05:13:42 pm
WAIT !    What ?   


you mean . . . . . . . . . . . ?


well, , , , , , , ,  shoot.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .   :shrug





Maybe the ladies should help with the snow shoveling?   Of course they might get cold doing it in bikinis.  Since that is what all the women in Sweden dress like according to those old beer commercials.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: wyatt on November 14, 2016, 05:40:14 pm
All of this is a moot point - everybody knows it doesn't snow in Sweden anymore due to global warming!

I flew back from Alaska a month ago and the thousands of miles of glaciers and the fjords frozen solid in British Columbia I saw were obviously an illusion caused by CO2 poisoning. 

Sweden no longer has to worry about winter.  :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on November 15, 2016, 03:06:34 am
All of this is a moot point - everybody knows it doesn't snow in Sweden anymore due to global warming!

I flew back from Alaska a month ago and the thousands of miles of glaciers and the fjords frozen solid in British Columbia I saw were obviously an illusion caused by CO2 poisoning. 

Sweden no longer has to worry about winter.  :coffee

Global warming is back on. That's why all the special snowflakes are melting since the Brexit vote and the US Presidential Election.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 15, 2016, 11:02:09 pm
Yes, they are melting alright but it has nothing to do with "global warming", "climate change" or any of the other shibboleths they trot out in an attempt criminalize anyone who doesn't buy into the prevailing doctrine.   Our star is slightly variable, as is our orbit around it and therefore we have naturally occurring climate variability.  I have a standing wager of $1000.00 with the resident "global warming" fanatic at work.  If he can show me conclusive evidence of man caused climate change outside the mean of natural climate variability for the last 150,000 years, he wins.  I think he's given up trying at this point. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 15, 2016, 11:06:14 pm
Yes, they are melting alright but it has nothing to do with "global warming", "climate change" or any of the other shibboleths they trot out in an attempt criminalize anyone who doesn't buy into the prevailing doctrine.   Our star is slightly variable, as is our orbit around it and therefore we have naturally occurring climate variability.  I have a standing wager of $1000.00 with the resident "global warming" fanatic at work.  If he can show me conclusive evidence of man caused climate change outside the mean of natural climate variability for the last 150,000 years, he wins.  I think he's given up trying at this point.

A thousand bucks?  :shocked

You must really dislike the global warming stuff. I think it's just another conspiracy theory that people like to peddle to either make a quick buck or to take advantage of people. I mean what is a better scheme than telling people they are dying (due to some unseen thing), but they don't know it yet, and the only way things can be 'better' is if they do what you say?  :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 15, 2016, 11:15:18 pm
Yeah.  I picked a thousand because I just got really tired of hearing the same tired BS week after week, month after month, year after year.  I thought it would be enough to either get him to actually do some research ( which would undermine his original position ) or STFU.  I was good with it either way.  He made a couple of half a&&ed attempts to pass off some questionable research as fact and therefore proof of his claim but it was all pretty easily shot down.  I haven't heard much recently so maybe he's just given up on it.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on November 15, 2016, 11:30:05 pm
Yes, they are melting alright but it has nothing to do with "global warming", "climate change" or any of the other shibboleths they trot out in an attempt criminalize anyone who doesn't buy into the prevailing doctrine.   Our star is slightly variable, as is our orbit around it and therefore we have naturally occurring climate variability.  I have a standing wager of $1000.00 with the resident "global warming" fanatic at work.  If he can show me conclusive evidence of man caused climate change outside the mean of natural climate variability for the last 150,000 years, he wins.  I think he's given up trying at this point.

Does it have to be global, OR can I get the 1k if I can prove local variability outside of the mean temp of the natural landscape?  ;)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 16, 2016, 12:29:15 am
On your worst day you couldn't hold a candle to this irritating little sod .   He somehow manages to combine 7 or 8 of the worst personality traits I can think of into a veritable smorgasbord of jacka&&ery.   I have absolutely no doubt that he voted for she who shall not be named and if he's even a little bit smarter than I think he is he'll avoid making any reference at all to the election around me.  If he does I may have to rip the scab off that one and let the "healing" process go back to step one for him.   >:D     

As far as the grand goes, you and I could have a pretty level headed discussion about most anything - especially anything re: science and observation in the real world.  There would be no need to dangle a $1000.00 bill in front of your nose just to get you to either do some research or STFU.  I made the bet in an attempt to alter the behavior of this irritant and structured it in such a way as to make it nearly impossible for him to collect under any sort of normal circumstances.   Our original argument centered around the Pleistocene epoch and the undeniable reality of the Laurentide ice sheet, what caused it to appear and what caused it to disappear.  That was set as the parameter for climate variability with some certainty that observations and calculations about it were on par with modern measuring methods in arriving at a conclusion and using the North American continent as the field for the wager.   

Based on that I don't think you can prove it any more than he can unless you and I define "local" completely differently but it might be an entertaining discussion. 

Short answer?  No.   :neener
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 16, 2016, 12:46:11 am
 :rotfl

You're one stone cold sob, coelacanth  :thumbup1.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 16, 2016, 01:11:59 am
Mrs. c  tells me it's one of my most endearing qualities.    :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Mikee5star on November 16, 2016, 01:16:40 am
I usually shut down those type of co-workers with the comment "I own a three pound hammer and am not afraid to use it, so if you don't wish to meet Reset, STFU."  Your way is probably better.  But my most annoying co-worker did not speak to me or even acknowledge I was present for three days after the last time I brought Reset meeting his toes.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 16, 2016, 01:20:02 am
You have an admirably direct approach, sir.   I believe we have a smiley for that one .  .  .   :bash.     :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Mikee5star on November 16, 2016, 01:22:04 am
That maybe so.  I do try to be respectful and tactful, but some people just need to meet Reset.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 16, 2016, 05:20:47 pm
https://youtu.be/y_ID3sOYwQM
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 16, 2016, 09:03:53 pm
Found a better one. And this one has Christina in it!  :cool

https://youtu.be/KDysUJhTA3Y
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 16, 2016, 11:49:26 pm
Excellent.   :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 18, 2016, 12:31:47 pm
https://youtu.be/JZ0rXcf8Lws

https://youtu.be/AAUUzQrNGtw
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 19, 2016, 12:30:09 am
I guess the surprising thing to me is that they just keep coming back for more.   :hmm    People with the IQ of my sock drawer learn a few catchy phrases and a couple of talking points and then want to have a crack at someone like Mr. Shapiro or Mr. Yiannopoulos while their mob shouts encouragement.  It never ends well. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 19, 2016, 09:57:52 pm
Found the full clip.

https://youtu.be/pT-49IUwq_8
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 19, 2016, 11:31:24 pm
She kept looking for the holes in the bowling ball but there weren't any.    :rotfl    I hope Mr. Yiannopoulos gets paid well for what he does - he certainly expends a lot of energy in an interview.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 20, 2016, 12:10:03 am
She kept looking for the holes in the bowling ball but there weren't any.    :rotfl    I hope Mr. Yiannopoulos gets paid well for what he does - he certainly expends a lot of energy in an interview.

I don't see how he gets through an interview without saying "Shut the fluff up and let me finish".

It's like the only way they can attempt to "beat" him is to not allow him to finish his line of thought and counter argument. They just keep squawking so he has to compete with their decibel level  :bash.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 20, 2016, 10:38:32 am
https://youtu.be/tc4CVa-3K3k
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 20, 2016, 11:04:42 am
https://youtu.be/Sr6YE5PuOlA

That Australian woman in the beginning (3-5 minutes), my goodness she was pissed. I wonder what was said for her to rationalise being that violent?

That man risked his own physical safety by being that patient. Not a good gamble to take.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 20, 2016, 02:04:02 pm
https://youtu.be/I-niI1Gijdk

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/2/environmentalists-embrace-x-rated-activism-ecosexu/
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 20, 2016, 11:58:08 pm
https://youtu.be/IfHNohKk1gY

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: aikorob on November 21, 2016, 12:14:35 pm
https://youtu.be/I-niI1Gijdk

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/2/environmentalists-embrace-x-rated-activism-ecosexu/

Confucius say: "man who has sex on ground have piece on Earth"
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 21, 2016, 12:18:23 pm
Confucius say: "man who has sex on ground have piece on Earth"

 :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 22, 2016, 02:23:24 pm
https://youtu.be/CyOUa2lmyPM

I get why people won't say things on camera. The political climate and social media have made it to where if you say an off colour remark or have the wrong opinion outside of work, they can still cost you your job (as if you had made that same comment while at your job). We need to make it so people can talk again, without fear.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 22, 2016, 07:01:22 pm
I never get interviewed on camera  .  .  .  .  .   :hmm 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 22, 2016, 07:04:24 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/25/u-n-womens-group-calls-for-web-censorship/

Quote
It can be pointless and pedantic to play what some of us call “Oppression Olympics,” but in this case the discrepancy between this UN group’s complaints and the real suffering of women is too great to ignore. In a world afflicted by female genital mutilation, forced marriages and acid attacks on girls whose only crime is wanting an education, the UN has chosen to focus on the professional whinging of privileged and mendacious western activists.

The UN has always been a joke, but in this case, by providing a platform for such ludicrously entitled windbags, they have provided us all with the punchline themselves.

Boy oh boy, what a treat! Milo criticising the UN and Anita Sarkeesian!  :cool

From now on, I will have to add "oppression Olympics" to my repertoire of anti-SJW verbiage  :rotfl.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 22, 2016, 07:06:26 pm
I never get interviewed on camera  .  .  .  .  .   :hmm

There are always cameras around now days. Everyone has one in their hand (mobile phone).

Then again, depending upon the age demographic of those you spend your time with, they might not have "upgraded" to smart phones yet  :facepalm. Do they put rotary dials on mobile phones?  :neener
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 22, 2016, 07:23:19 pm
You are too young to make a proper jacka&&, young padawan.  What are these "phones" you speak of? 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 22, 2016, 07:31:32 pm
You are too young to make a proper jacka&&, young padawan.  What are these "phones" you speak of?

Too young? I thought it was the young who are typically labeled as foolish  :hmm.

I didn't expect you to double down on my comments :facepalm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 22, 2016, 08:59:38 pm
Precisely correct.  Youth and inexperience go together like corn flakes and milk.  They are to be expected to varying degrees.  However, true jacka&&ery requires a purposeful component that can only achieved by those who know better. 

Now, kindly explain these "phones" and how that relates to the subject of being interviewed on camera. 

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 22, 2016, 09:21:10 pm
Nevermind.  I was just being a bit of a jacka&&.   :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 22, 2016, 11:08:42 pm
:scrutiny

:neener
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 23, 2016, 02:46:19 pm
https://youtu.be/qEmy27aDqN8

Stolen from Fender from another post.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 24, 2016, 01:01:35 am
https://youtu.be/cEoCsvzoEcg
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on November 24, 2016, 02:56:20 am
https://youtu.be/cEoCsvzoEcg


That just never gets old, no matter how many times I see it.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 24, 2016, 11:21:08 am
https://youtu.be/KBSLxwHJjvU
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Fenderbassist on November 24, 2016, 01:27:43 pm
https://youtu.be/qEmy27aDqN8

Stolen from Fender from another post.

 :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Fenderbassist on November 24, 2016, 01:28:24 pm
That just never gets old, no matter how many times I see it.

I absolutely LOVED when Laurie Penny got schooled big time.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 24, 2016, 02:26:35 pm
https://youtu.be/Cmi2IcpiVJc

Social media has already been discussed by our members, but I'm glad to see Sargon go over it.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 24, 2016, 02:31:14 pm
https://youtu.be/N_AHTg5pm-U
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on November 24, 2016, 03:16:40 pm
I absolutely LOVED when Laurie Penny got schooled big time.

I think my favourite moment is when she tries to play the victim and one of the audience shouts out "You started it!"  :clap
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 24, 2016, 11:27:13 pm
Agreed.   :thumbup1    Its pretty hard to start any sort of civil discussion when you begin by calling the other person a racist or a white supremacist.  It was completely gratifying to watch her getting her a&& handed to her on stage during a public forum.   :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 25, 2016, 10:23:19 am
https://youtu.be/zzxID0DhSPw

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 26, 2016, 09:28:20 am
https://youtu.be/s8KX-yHuWJE
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 26, 2016, 11:32:55 pm
 :facepalm   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 27, 2016, 12:06:33 am
:facepalm

Kind of scary, isn't it?

I feel that the current zeitgeist in academia has found itself wearing politically tinged clothing for quite some time now. The worst part is, that it only appears to be getting worse :hide .
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 27, 2016, 12:57:12 am
Yup.  You can't fix stupid.  And, always remember the difference between a conservative and a liberal:

 A conservative says, " I'll believe it when I see it." .

 A liberal says, "I'll see it when I believe it." .   

 :shrug
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 27, 2016, 01:00:20 am
Perhaps, when the time comes, I should look into home schooling?  :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 27, 2016, 01:06:21 am
Well, considering the alternative it might not be a bad idea.  In Arizona - and a few other states - there are some pretty good private schools and also charter schools that seem to avoid most of the revisionist history and outright indoctrination tactics of the public schools.  Those might also be worth looking into.  At this point, anything paid for by the Dept. of Education and run by the NEA is worthless as teats on a boar hog. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on November 27, 2016, 02:59:56 am
Perhaps, when the time comes, I should look into home schooling?  :hmm

Send the kid to public school, and teach them how to think rationally. The kid will need to learn how to pick through the mess at some point. They might as well learn it young.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Gabrielus on November 28, 2016, 02:01:08 am
Yuri Bezmenov on political indoctrination, scary how accurate he is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHgYPDvQFU8
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 28, 2016, 09:56:57 pm
Bearing rage quitted this video. That's when you know it's bad  :rotfl.

https://youtu.be/it8W7ehMjww
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 28, 2016, 10:15:35 pm
Posting this one without having watched it, but it relates to the previous story posted.

https://youtu.be/9Q6XYq2Chws

Turns out clearing the snow from roads can be sexist.
Good job Sweden is on the case.
Or maybe it isn't.

Original article
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/14/gender-equal-snow-removal-policy/ (http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/14/gender-equal-snow-removal-policy/)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 29, 2016, 09:06:24 am
https://youtu.be/mtrWDGc5MK4

This one is just bizarre to me. A white woman becoming a white trans man now has privilege and the SJW 's ostracise her  :facepalm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 30, 2016, 01:44:51 am
Well, its complicated .  .  .   :facepalm    Actually Mr. Bezmenov alluded to it in his interview when he called the phenomenon " demoralization "  -  very aptly put. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on November 30, 2016, 02:24:39 pm
Since this thread is called the 'WORST' of SJWs I shall prevent this. Ding, ding, ding! I think we have a winner here.
Watch as she shows she doesn't know what equal means and explains why one of the Kardashians needs to be President of the United States.
Obviously being an Undoomed video there is strong language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHqe7CdwcMw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHqe7CdwcMw)

Obviously she has a drug problem.
Too many of the wrong ones or not enough of the right ones.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on November 30, 2016, 05:53:10 pm
 :scrutiny   .   .   .    :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Fenderbassist on November 30, 2016, 05:59:40 pm
:scrutiny   .   .   .    :facepalm

 :scrutiny   .   .   .    :facepalm

(ditto)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on November 30, 2016, 10:46:56 pm
Ben explains privilege to us.

https://youtu.be/NWIr2V79ZoA
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 01, 2016, 01:04:56 am
Well crap.  Here I was expecting something deep and profound.   :scrutiny   That's so simple you could explain it to .  .  .  a college student.   :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 01, 2016, 07:56:10 am
Well crap.  Here I was expecting something deep and profound.   :scrutiny   That's so simple you could explain it to .  .  .  a college student.   :facepalm

Eh, it wasn't his words he was quoting the institute.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 02, 2016, 01:29:44 am
:scrutiny   .   .   .    :facepalm

:scrutiny   .   .   .    :facepalm

(ditto)

Oh goodness... I just watched it  :facepalm.

Is this a failure of the parents or the public educational system?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Fenderbassist on December 02, 2016, 12:15:05 pm
Oh goodness... I just watched it  :facepalm.

Is this a failure of the parents or the public educational system?

I think you hit on two very important factors.  You could probably add "the influence of found in some places online" and "media bias supporting certain narratives" as well.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 03, 2016, 09:55:52 am
This isn't a worst of SJW video, but I feel after the recent tedious videos, I wanted to post something to give me hope for humanity again.

https://youtu.be/xbpIa4VAlPE

Here are a group of people explaining how not everything is racist, sexist, homophobic, and how SJW's aren't actually courageous or brave.

Will continue with the regularly scheduled programming after this much needed break  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 03, 2016, 12:05:12 pm
And just a little humour.

They tried to evacuate Milo's event by pulling a fire alarm  :facepalm.

https://youtu.be/ZL5tlWBAipQ
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 03, 2016, 02:40:53 pm
https://youtu.be/Kq3YmcZUBLk
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 04, 2016, 07:04:35 pm
Days of wine and roses or perhaps days of whine and neurosis?   :hmm   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 04, 2016, 07:33:16 pm
Days of wine and roses or perhaps days of whine and neurosis?   :hmm

I'm declaring it, Thread win  :thumbup2.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 05, 2016, 01:55:07 am
 :cool  ( raises a glass of Laphroaig 10 yo in your general direction ) 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 05, 2016, 11:53:12 pm
https://youtu.be/9jgTW_btOHs

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 06, 2016, 03:39:13 pm
https://youtu.be/Do6ioqA-Dy0 

For the record, I kind of like the grey scale scheme that the new police cars have.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 06, 2016, 06:42:11 pm
https://youtu.be/UQeXesE9j9g

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 06, 2016, 08:56:48 pm
https://youtu.be/SwYd5cRlROE

https://youtu.be/dmeSGwVBoao

Just for fun  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 07, 2016, 12:32:47 am
OK, Bearing just needs to pencil sketch a new image and plug that in and he's back in business.   Dr. Peterson is brilliantly logical, as always.  Complaining about the color scheme of a police car is simply not relevant - ever.  Musical satire has a long and distinguished history - just ask Weird Al Yankovic -  :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 07, 2016, 12:52:47 am
OK, Bearing just needs to pencil sketch a new image and plug that in and he's back in business.   Dr. Peterson is brilliantly logical, as always.  Complaining about the color scheme of a police car is simply not relevant - ever.  Musical satire has a long and distinguished history - just ask Weird Al Yankovic -  :cool

I'm honoured that you watched and hit on all points :hat .

Yeah, poor bearing. I want him to get his channel back soon. Not sure if you've noticed, but I favour him over Undoomed. Bearing is logical and polite, while Undoomed is just logical.

If he isn't already, Dr. Peterson will very soon be a big target of the left. Not only does he challenge them, but he is a Professor and he is challenging them. Such things are unheard of.

Yeah, I'm not sure I even get the whole colour scheme on the police car thing. Grey vehicles do not equal the militarisation of the police  :bash.

Chris Raygun makes parody songs and also commentates on current SJW happenings. I also believe he has sat in as a guest for Sargon of Akaad. While he isn't my favourite, he is certainly active in the fight against SJW nonsense and I must commend him for that.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 07, 2016, 12:59:19 am
Duty bound.  You post it - I read/watch it.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 07, 2016, 01:17:32 am
Duty bound.  You post it - I read/watch it.

Aww, shucks  :-[.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 07, 2016, 11:14:59 am
https://youtu.be/30W8ZC65-0Y

Ozzy man pokes fun at SJW's and Feminazi's for a brief second in this clip and I found it pretty funny.

We really need to get Bearing's channel back so that I can start posting more of his stuff  :-\.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 08, 2016, 08:22:45 am
https://youtu.be/es5JeLYN-WY

I believe "red pill" when used in this instance, is a MGTOW term. I've never really understood that movement, but they certainly have the right to express their opinion.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 08, 2016, 06:45:33 pm
At about12 minutes, the channel creator stops the clips and discusses a free market of ideas. I thought this was the best part of the video.

https://youtu.be/N9zJxjPQUss
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 09, 2016, 12:57:11 pm
https://youtu.be/J-12rvpDtHo
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 09, 2016, 09:39:48 pm
He's back!  :cool

https://youtu.be/24ffWqQyxOg

https://youtu.be/2X-PgHSZh6U
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 10, 2016, 02:34:01 am
Well, Milo seemed to hit it off pretty well at the mom & pop pizza parlor.  Glad he went there to dispel the kind of BS that got them on the evening news in the first place.   

I figured Bearing wouldn't be gone for long.  It'll be interesting to hear him tee off on the perpetrators of the internet jacka&&ery that he experienced. 

That last one?  Makes me want to just tell him/her/it to just stfu.   Way, way too enamored of the sound of his own voice. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 10, 2016, 04:00:15 pm
If you watch nothing else on this page, watch this one  :cool.

Very happy with this video.

https://youtu.be/89SonD5lKGU
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 10, 2016, 10:37:23 pm
Yup.  Ann McIlhenny and her partner Phelim McAleer have been taking the fight to the looney left for years.  I haven't seen any of their stuff that isn't worth an academy award.  They just leave people like the college student in the video completely speechless.  :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 10, 2016, 11:13:10 pm
Yup.  Ann McIlhenny and her partner Phelim McAleer have been taking the fight to the looney left for years.  I haven't seen any of their stuff that isn't worth an academy award.  They just leave people like the college student in the video completely speechless.  :cool

Thanks for giving me their names! I know it was said in the video, but it was uttered quickly.

I've never seen anything of them before until today. If you know of or find any other SJW vids with her in it, please feel free to share them with us  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 10, 2016, 11:29:20 pm
Thanks for giving me their names! I know it was said in the video, but it was uttered quickly.

I've never seen anything of them before until today. If you know of or find any other SJW vids with her in it, please feel free to share them with us  :cool.
They are documentary film makers who have actually done feature length films on various subjects from the horrors of abortion "clinics" to global warming and fracking.  At any rate neither of them is an easy mark in a debate setting. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on December 11, 2016, 09:52:02 pm

https://youtu.be/2X-PgHSZh6U
Good hell... :shocked

If I were the king, that man would be forcibly sterilized to prevent his genes from corrupting the next generation.  As it stands, I imagine his long term goal is to do that very thing for us.  :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 11, 2016, 11:40:08 pm
This one is a bit tougher to watch. BLM flag burning and some vets get pissed. There's some racial slurs in this one (initiated by BLM members oddly enough).

https://youtu.be/DfA3TyXP9pE
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: wyatt on December 12, 2016, 04:39:56 pm
Maybe the problem here is that Old Glory isn't flammable enough? If the next American Flag the useful idiots burned was made of gun cotton, they might not be so eager to burn any more flags - at least until their eyebrows grew back. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 14, 2016, 11:11:34 pm
I think if I was determined to be in an area where street theater was likely I would go suitably equipped to deal with whatever minor annoyances manifested themselves. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 15, 2016, 12:05:36 am
I think if I was determined to be in an area where street theater was likely I would go suitably equipped to deal with whatever minor annoyances manifested themselves.

 :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on December 15, 2016, 12:18:28 am
 ::)

2+2=4
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 15, 2016, 12:32:55 am
Ok - think about it.  What would it take to muzzle some jacka&& with a mega phone?  Maybe a can or two of that expanding foam from Home Depot?  How about some capsaicin and ammonia for people shouting "I can't breathe!"  -  yeah, I can see that.  When you REALLY can't breathe you tend to stop shouting. >:D   I don't go to "street theater" - 1) because it proves nothing and changes nobody's mind  2) because I don't play well with others     
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 16, 2016, 02:20:25 pm
Demanding 150K reparations for deciding to not get married?

The sense of entitlement is astounding.

https://youtu.be/p4_JlA84Xc8
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 16, 2016, 04:24:59 pm
Agreed, but when you cast your lot with the "justice" system odds are its going to cost you money.  Whether or not its a LOT of money is entirely up to people other than you in most cases.   It would be a cold day in hell before I would do so much as smile at that woman - much less go on a date with her.  I can't imagine how much she could collect based on the implied contract inherent in such actions.   :scrutiny
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 16, 2016, 04:58:16 pm
Agreed, but when you cast your lot with the "justice" system odds are its going to cost you money.  Whether or not its a LOT of money is entirely up to people other than you in most cases.   It would be a cold day in hell before I would do so much as smile at that woman - much less go on a date with her.  I can't imagine how much she could collect based on the implied contract inherent in such actions.   :scrutiny

Agreed. The whole point of engagement is that it's a build up to the big contractual agreement. It isn't a permanent contract yet.

As a young man, this greatly concerns me that there are women out there like this who treat what should be a sacred matter of the heart, into a means of profit.

Sad thing is that sometimes people marry these sort without realising what kind of people they are. I firmly believe that divorce brings out the bad in good people and the complete monster in bad people.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on December 16, 2016, 08:19:05 pm

As a young man, this greatly concerns me that there are women out there like this who treat what should be a sacred matter of the heart, into a means of profit.

The idea of romantic marriage is actually a recent development historically. Most marriages throughout human history have been for the mutual profit of all parties and not for love. Love develops later if at all in those situations. I first became aware of these arrangements in modern times when a good friend of mine, who is of Lebanese Christian descent, flew to Lebanon to meet his bride for the first time. His mother and father had chosen her for him. He is a modern, cool dude, one of the guys, in all respects but went entirely submissive to his parents when they told him it was time to marry. Another guy I know is a traditional Sikh and his parents did the same. This fascinates me and the idea of gold digging chicks doesn't surprise me in the least. If you look at Chelsea Clinton's marriage, the Kennedys, the Trump kids, the Romneys, or any other high society families, they tend to almost always marry amongst themselves and from what I have seen from the outside looking in, for mutual profit as much as for love. Our society is traveling full circle it seems.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 16, 2016, 09:33:47 pm
The idea of romantic marriage is actually a recent development historically. Most marriages throughout human history have been for the mutual profit of all parties and not for love. Love develops later if at all in those situations. I first became aware of these arrangements in modern times when a good friend of mine, who is of Lebanese Christian descent, flew to Lebanon to meet his bride for the first time. His mother and father had chosen her for him. He is a modern, cool dude, one of the guys, in all respects but went entirely submissive to his parents when they told him it was time to marry. Another guy I know is a traditional Sikh and his parents did the same. This fascinates me and the idea of gold digging chicks doesn't surprise me in the least. If you look at Chelsea Clinton's marriage, the Kennedys, the Trump kids, the Romneys, or any other high society families, they tend to almost always marry amongst themselves and from what I have seen from the outside looking in, for mutual profit as much as for love. Our society is traveling full circle it seems.

I'm aware of the anthropological history of marriage, only because I went searching for answers after wondering what the hell is going on in our culture. Sometimes marriage in the modern day U.S.A seems to be a cycle in a game that nobody is winning. If I recall correctly, I believe that historically it is only in the last 300-350 years that we have married for love? Also it is a cultural thing as well, Europeans and the French have difficulty with our idea of marriage. Americans want one person to fit every single role imaginable. While the French believe that marriage is about stability, while romantic love should be fiery and by its very nature ebbs, flows, and is unstable.

Aren't you married, Sarge?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 19, 2016, 12:38:05 am
https://youtu.be/dG1bN2JWC7I

https://youtu.be/sObPHx2QMY0

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 19, 2016, 01:03:32 am
 :scrutiny .  .  .   :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on December 19, 2016, 03:12:43 am
A non-binary tumblr witch? What a great pile of warlocks.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: cpaspr on December 19, 2016, 08:10:42 pm
A non-binary tumblr witch? What a great pile of warlocks.

Well, it's a pile of something.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on December 20, 2016, 10:36:43 pm

https://youtu.be/sObPHx2QMY0

GOOD!  Finally we are making some logical sense.  That woman has to be allowed to identity as and live out her days as a CAT!!

WHY NOT?  We as a society all fall over ourselves to accept anyone who wants to create their own new 'gender,' so why should a person not be allowed to identify as a Cat?  Or a Fish?  Or f___ that, I want to live as Frederick the f___ing Great!  Why not??











Why?  Because all of this transgender crap is rooted in mental illness.  Look, I can understand a gay person.  Maybe I don't like it, but they (for whatever reason) prefer their same sex.  Trannys?  No.  You were born a male.  Grow up.  Man up.  Deal with it.  There is nothing wrong with you between your legs, only between your ears.  The fact that people have enough leisure time or energy to worry about if they were 'correctly assigned at birth,' speaks to the fact that Americans as a people have become entirely too soft and weak.  I hate to say it, but we need another Depression where people starve to death, so as to put what passes as our current crop of 'problems' into perspective.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on December 21, 2016, 12:25:31 pm
I guess I just do not see the problem with transexual at all. It seems to be a freedom thing IMO.

You wanna dress as the opposite gender and get surgery to appear as the opposite gender. Get after it. It is a free world do as you wish.

Establishing a legal third gender would not be unheard of either. There are many historic and modern societies that recognized 3 genders.

I would always want to err on the side of too much freedom and allowing individuals to do as they wish. If someone else wants to rearrange bits or add new bits to themselves. I just do not see where anyone else should really have a say.

Freedom seems to be the allowance of stupid actions in many cases.

Freedom also cuts the other way as well. Many manly women get called sir/him and many feminine men get called miss/her. If you are transgender and the 'transition' is going a bit rough. Then you are going to have to suck up being mislabeled. It is how life is, pull on your big girl panties/boxers and deal with it. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 21, 2016, 12:52:37 pm
It's not about "you do you", though. They want everyone else to bend to their will as well. It's not enough to be or dress as one chooses, they wish to change our behaviour towards the- and they are all too ready to throw the weight of the law at anyone who doesn't comply or labels them incorrectly (such as we've seen in Canada).

Even worse then them being jerks about things, they are fluffing with science. They've turned the scientific political and in quite the clown shoes fashion.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on December 21, 2016, 01:15:13 pm
It's not about "you do you", though. They want everyone else to bend to their will as well. It's not enough to be or dress as one chooses, they wish to change our behaviour towards the- and they are all too ready to throw the weight of the law at anyone who doesn't comply or labels them incorrectly (such as we've seen in Canada).

Even worse then them being jerks about things, they are fluffing with science. They've turned the scientific political and in quite the clown shoes fashion.

The key to them being able to use the law is the idea of protected classes of individual. The instant you recognize 'hate' crimes and therefore make protected classes. You will have folks attempting to make themselves part of the protected classes to reap the rewards of the system.

As far as science goes, it is a tool. All tools are political instruments to some degree. Science is only the pure search of truth when no one sees the use of the science. The instant it becomes actionable to help/hurt it will instantly feel the pressure of society and the law.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on December 21, 2016, 01:44:18 pm
I guess I just do not see the problem with transexual at all. It seems to be a freedom thing IMO.

.....

I would always want to err on the side of too much freedom and allowing individuals to do as they wish. If someone else wants to rearrange bits or add new bits to themselves. I just do not see where anyone else should really have a say.
Allowing more freedom is a nice idea.  Allowing too much freedom is anarchy.  The age-old question, where do we draw that line?

Myself, I prefer to live in a unified, orderly society.  That means action to make sure everyone makes an effort to 'fit in' to a degree.  Should a person be 'allowed' to carve themselves up?  Sure.  Should society have to play along to their fantasies and delusions?  No.  If a person chooses the above modification, should the rest of us ridicule them and make them feel foolish?  Absolutely.

I would not want legislation or governmental pressure to accomplish this.  Societal pressure would do nicely.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Chief45 on December 21, 2016, 02:24:32 pm
EDP.  (emotionally disturbed person).

I deal with EDP's on a weekly and sometimes daily basis.

Most are harmless, some are amusing, some you just tolerate their "individualism". (think http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/ (http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/)) level.

A few are harmful, either to themselves or, rarely, others.   

They can call themselves what ever they want.  it don't change what they are.

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on December 21, 2016, 02:30:00 pm
Allowing too much freedom is anarchy.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

There is no such thing as too much freedom.  And anarchy is not necessarily an absence of order (contrary to what some might believe), but more an absence of a formal governmental body.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 21, 2016, 02:54:25 pm
You say that like it's a bad thing.

There is no such thing as too much freedom.  And anarchy is not necessarily an absence of order (contrary to what some might believe), but more an absence of a formal governmental body.

Maybe you can explain this concept better then myself or Jesse could.

I agree whole heartedly though. There has been quite the effort to paint anarchy as something that is evil, violent, and criminal. The fact of the matter is that it is the most peaceful political ideology, because it is the only one to have no state standing army. Not to mention the non-aggression principle, which so many who are pro-self government believe in and follow as an ethical principle.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on December 21, 2016, 07:01:57 pm
Maybe you can explain this concept better then myself or Jesse could.

I agree whole heartedly though. There has been quite the effort to paint anarchy as something that is evil, violent, and criminal. The fact of the matter is that it is the most peaceful political ideology, because it is the only one to have no state standing army. Not to mention the non-aggression principle, which so many who are pro-self government believe in and follow as an ethical principle.

Mind you, this is my view.  I'm sure that there are some that will disagree, and come up with some article, written by some professed hard line anarchist to prove their point.

Let's examine the suffix "arch." In this context, it means several things (without going into the minutia of word roots, dialects and other such):  To lead, head of, rule/ruler.  The United States a polyarchy, or as we refer to it a "republic."  Great Briton is a monarchy.  The head of a family, is referred to as a patri/matriarch.  ISIS is attempting to build a religious oligarchy.

Anarchy, again in this context, doesn't mean anti government.  The way "non-aggression" does not mean "pacifist."  All in all, it basically means, "You leave me alone, I'll leave you alone." 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on December 21, 2016, 10:50:21 pm
You say that like it's a bad thing.

There is no such thing as too much freedom.  And anarchy is not necessarily an absence of order (contrary to what some might believe), but more an absence of a formal governmental body.
I do.  When I say 'anarchy,' I mean 'chaos.'  Too much freedom leads to chaos, due to a lack of enforced societal structure.  People are inefficient and illogical by nature, and they need structure and order to reach their highest potential.  Both individually, and as a group.

There has been quite the effort to paint anarchy as something that is evil, violent, and criminal.
Humans are evil, violent, and criminal.  It is our natural state.  One that we fall back to when the threat of penal violence or social ostracization is removed as a consequence for bad behavior.  And sometimes even with that threat remaining.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: aikorob on December 23, 2016, 09:25:33 am
Finally, someone has stepped up to help in this time of butt-hurtedness:
http://savethesnowflakes.org/ (http://savethesnowflakes.org/)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 23, 2016, 09:35:58 am
Finally, someone has stepped up to help in this time of butt-hurtedness:
http://savethesnowflakes.org/ (http://savethesnowflakes.org/)

 :rotfl

 :thumbup2
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 23, 2016, 11:24:57 pm
This was a great short film  :thumbup1.

https://youtu.be/AOMpxsiUg2Q
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 27, 2016, 08:36:43 pm
https://youtu.be/WxzP_ITjEsY

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 28, 2016, 12:27:36 am
"The Privilege Game" .  .  .  I want my 8 minutes back.   :scrutiny

"Resolutions for white guys"  .  .  .  Yes, by all means, let me be preached to by the same people who have been experiencing mass hysteria at the mere thought of a Trump administration with a Republican congressional majority.   :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on December 28, 2016, 02:15:38 am
I gotta wonder what kind of screwed up mirror these dips___s are looking in.  Have they not noticed that they themselves are white?  Like the nitwit perfesser and his BS about "White Genocide?"  :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 29, 2016, 07:01:26 am
An interview with the man that Zarna tried to destroy.

https://youtu.be/JoC0Uua-rHs
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 29, 2016, 07:36:09 am
When your first world country is doing so well, that you have to invent s___ to be upset about. Spoiler alert: it's all men's fault, like always  :banghead.

https://youtu.be/T77frLL_bsg
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 29, 2016, 10:06:47 pm
https://youtu.be/fLgy88aAV1w
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on December 29, 2016, 11:19:24 pm
I like "Bearing's" new avatar .   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 29, 2016, 11:22:15 pm
I like "Bearing's" new avatar .

Me too. It's bigger and bear-er than before.

Sorry, I couldn't resist  :facepalm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on December 30, 2016, 04:51:53 am
Me too. It's bigger and bear-er than before.

Sorry, I couldn't resist  :facepalm.

He revealed his actual face on his other channel and I couldn't help but think that the bear avatar was very appropriate.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 31, 2016, 10:07:28 am
https://youtu.be/zORdH2tDNzM

I wonder if society will degrade to the point where they will flat out say that anyone born of Anglo descent is automatically evil, regardless of said person's character. This is a very toxic and racist ideology.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on December 31, 2016, 09:36:30 pm
https://youtu.be/wFwVjPrN2MM

All you need is confidence and a lisp.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on January 01, 2017, 12:02:13 am
OK - first point:  If it doesn't show up on a clinical toxicology report its not toxic.  Regardless of your opinion.  Period.   :scrutiny   
       
       second point point:  Stereotyping people based solely on their appearance or an assumption of racial identity is pretty much the definition 
                                   of racism, isn't it?   Therefore people who engage in such behavior are de facto racists, no?    :scrutiny

        third point:  If you can "identify" as a "gender" outside of your physical appearance and biological reality and expect to be taken
                         seriously, why not simply "identify" as a person of color thereby rendering yourself non-"toxic" ?    :scrutiny

That "Louder with Crowder" video is effing hilarious.   :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on January 01, 2017, 09:28:22 am
https://youtu.be/kFyNLlRNC0Y
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on January 01, 2017, 09:53:45 am
https://youtu.be/udWNkPhffUQ

Camille Paglia was made an apostate of the current feminist movement and yet her only crime seems to be that she advocated liberty and then the self responsibility/accountability that comes with that new found liberty.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on January 01, 2017, 12:53:10 pm
Correct.  Basic rational thinking, foundational logic, cause and effect - these things are simply not taught to today's high school and university students.  Her point about retreating to the protectionist ivory tower she fought against when she enrolled in college is spot on.  If you leave academia to make your way in the world but are ignorant of how the world works, your post graduate education is likely to be short and brutal.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on January 02, 2017, 01:34:27 pm
Correct.  Basic rational thinking, foundational logic, cause and effect - these things are simply not taught to today's high school and university students.  Her point about retreating to the protectionist ivory tower she fought against when she enrolled in college is spot on.  If you leave academia to make your way in the world but are ignorant of how the world works, your post graduate education is likely to be short and brutal.

All of those attributes are taught, just not in the liberal arts departments.

If you take a walk over into the hard sciences, math and engineering departments you will find all sorts of logical thinkers. They are just too busy working on their degree to go to campus events to complain about non-issues.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on January 02, 2017, 04:39:54 pm
Fair enough.  Its been a looong time since I sat through a college lecture.  That said, how is it that any institution of "higher learning" can turn out people who are essentially ignorant of history, incapable of rational debate, functionally illiterate in their primary language and completely unprepared for entrance into the society in which they live?   

No less a personage than John Adams wrote in a letter to his wife Abigail,  "  .  .  .  I must study politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.  Our sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry and porcelain." 

I admit I have no clear idea who sacrificed what to bring us to the current situation but in my opinion it was a poor bargain.   :bash
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on January 04, 2017, 09:43:19 am
https://youtu.be/Md7eG-AuzW4
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on January 06, 2017, 01:39:08 am
 :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on January 06, 2017, 12:36:06 pm
Yeaaah. :facepalm  If you whore around and get knocked up, there is a pretty even chance of 'boy' or 'girl.' (and it is one or the other)  Furthermore, since you proudly proclaim your 'feminism,' you should be well versed in the functions of the female reproductive system, and specifically the fact that it has No input on the gender of your child.  That would be the function of whoever it was you screwed, to get into this condition.  Or in blunt language, the Man who fathered the child is responsible for the fact that He is Male, and will be born a Boy.

So get over yourself, princess.  Your prized all-female recent family tree is nothing more than dumb luck. :bash
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on January 06, 2017, 01:05:50 pm
Yeah, she pretty much had a 50/50 chance of boy or girl.

Unless she lived in New York where they recognise 32 or so genders. then she would have only about a 3% chance of having a boy. Because. External genitalia, secondary sex characteristics, hormones, and science be damned  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: aikorob on January 06, 2017, 04:53:58 pm
https://www.amazon.com/Butt-Hurt-Balm-sensitive-snowflakes/dp/B01I6DN94Q/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482529623&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=butthurt+salve (https://www.amazon.com/Butt-Hurt-Balm-sensitive-snowflakes/dp/B01I6DN94Q/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482529623&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=butthurt+salve)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on January 07, 2017, 02:09:36 pm

Aren't you married, Sarge?

Yep. 29 years last November. I don't worry about much at all but I'm growing concerned for my kids. I hope they can find as good a spouse as I did. Its looking more and more bleak IMO. I tell my oldest son to look for a down-to-earth girl like his mom, like a farmer's or rancher's daughter but good luck son.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on January 23, 2017, 07:24:38 pm
https://youtu.be/82BsFb7bajc

Here's some Anarchists violating the NAP. Hello hypocrisy  :facepalm.

Also on today's show is feminist sjw accusing man of being sexist and racist, while she is in fact being sexist and racist herself.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on January 23, 2017, 08:59:18 pm
I thought that was bad until I watched Ashley Judd making a complete fool of herself at the same event.   :facepalm    I think the only public event larger than the women's march was the entire state of Kentucky offering up heartfelt thanks unto God that they had the good sense not to elect Ms. Judd to the U.S. senate. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on January 24, 2017, 02:59:07 am
https://youtu.be/82BsFb7bajc

Here's some Anarchists violating the NAP. Hello hypocrisy  :facepalm.

Also on today's show is feminist sjw accusing man of being sexist and racist, while she is in fact being sexist and racist herself.

Does anyone else get the feeling that feminist knew she was beaten and was trying to look cool as she turned away and lit her cigarette?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on January 26, 2017, 10:17:36 am
https://youtu.be/QYcJi65KMa8
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on January 27, 2017, 10:08:23 am
https://youtu.be/hjqMhAt7t-k
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on January 28, 2017, 12:05:59 am
Yup.  Actual, active mental illness.  HPD - a textbook case, IMO.  I can't believe somebody didn't just walk up to the barista and say, "Can I just get my coffee to go?".   But then again, anybody who didn't pretty much buy into the performance probably got their coffee from Dunkin' Donuts or McDonald's anyway.    :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on January 28, 2017, 10:22:46 am
https://youtu.be/AgmnhVShrKU
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on January 30, 2017, 04:36:57 pm
Not a video exposing SJW stupidity but an open letter sent by the UK branch of PETA:

WARNING: This letter features stupidity so gross you may not believe it real, but it is.

Quote

Why Is PETA Asking Games Workshop to Make Warhammer Fur-Free?

From the mighty Leman Russ and Horus Lupercal to Chaos Warriors and the Sisters of Silence, Warhammer features an abundance of characters who wear what appear to be animal pelts, which just doesn’t add up.
The grim dark, battle-hardened warriors are known for their martial prowess – but wearing the skins of dead animals doesn’t take any skill.
Indeed, nothing on the bloody battlefields of Warhammer’s conflict-ravaged universe could match the terrible reality that foxes, minks, rabbits, and other living beings experience at the hands of the fur trade. Those killed for their fur typically first endure a bleak life inside a tiny, filthy wire cage before being electrocuted, drowned, or even skinned alive. Or they may be in the wild, minding their own business, when they get caught in a horrific bone-crushing steel-jaw trap – often languishing for days before eventually dying from starvation, dehydration, or blood loss.
PETA has written to Games Workshop CEO Kevin Rountree asking that the leading British miniature war-gaming brand ban “fur” garments from all Warhammer characters. While we appreciate that they are fictional, draping them in what looks like a replica of a dead animal sends the message that wearing fur is acceptable – when, in fact, it has no more place in 2017 than it would in the year 40,000.

Yes that's right, apparently PETA are triggered by the sculpted fur on plastic figures.
 :banghead

There are no words to describe this that would not automatically be filtered out or get me banned from here.

Link to the original article:
http://www.peta.org.uk/blog/peta-warhammer-fur-free/ (http://www.peta.org.uk/blog/peta-warhammer-fur-free/)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: ksuguy on January 30, 2017, 05:18:34 pm
Someone needs to level an exterminatus on those idiots.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on January 30, 2017, 06:18:34 pm
Not a video exposing SJW stupidity but an open letter sent by the UK branch of PETA:

WARNING: This letter features stupidity so gross you may not believe it real, but it is.

Yes that's right, apparently PETA are triggered by the sculpted fur on plastic figures.
 :banghead

There are no words to describe this that would not automatically be filtered out or get me banned from here.

Link to the original article:
http://www.peta.org.uk/blog/peta-warhammer-fur-free/ (http://www.peta.org.uk/blog/peta-warhammer-fur-free/)

Thank you for contributing to the thread!!!

...

 :banghead
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on January 31, 2017, 05:48:30 pm
https://youtu.be/6W1N_iq7YTg

High school student debating their feminist teacher, I believe.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on February 01, 2017, 12:18:24 am
Well, the kid isn't a polished public speaker but he's got the right idea. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 03, 2017, 03:19:29 pm
https://youtu.be/zWZnSTqc1tM
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 04, 2017, 08:26:57 am
https://youtu.be/yKm5MXzOoeY

I didn't realise things had gotten this bad  :shocked.

Such random and senseless violence from these damn kids.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 12, 2017, 09:50:20 am
The narrative continues: All men are bad, while all women are good.

https://youtu.be/wLfteXiuKw4
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on February 12, 2017, 12:54:39 pm
I would love to know where this skirt did her interviews.  Specifically I would like to know where they have an arch, as seen at 1:21.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 12, 2017, 01:07:35 pm
I think New York has architecture like that.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on February 12, 2017, 01:10:46 pm
I think New York has architecture like that.
  :scrutiny New York is a big state.  And if you meant NYC, that is still a big city.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 12, 2017, 01:53:17 pm
  :scrutiny New York is a big state.  And if you meant NYC, that is still a big city.

New York city  :-[.

Besides, I'm just a guy from small town Texas, I don't know what's actually up there. I seen some moving pictures though that had arches in New York city  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on February 12, 2017, 10:33:59 pm
Do I 100% trust women?  Oh, absolutely.   :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 15, 2017, 05:21:20 pm
https://youtu.be/dC5LyaCdpEI

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 20, 2017, 10:48:41 am
https://youtu.be/WDLIR71Pe0A
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on February 20, 2017, 12:07:56 pm
Excellent.   That was about as thorough an academic smackdown as I have seen lately and it was delivered in a very matter-of-fact conversational style that is hard to take issue with even if you are prone to being "triggered".   The lack of critical thinking skills is appallingly evident in most college students.  I think the hard science majors tend to be a little less inclined that direction simply because of their chosen disciplines but in social settings they are generally either silent or drowned out by their more reactionary fellows.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 20, 2017, 12:38:30 pm
Excellent.   That was about as thorough an academic smackdown as I have seen lately and it was delivered in a very matter-of-fact conversational style that is hard to take issue with even if you are prone to being "triggered".   The lack of critical thinking skills is appallingly evident in most college students.  I think the hard science majors tend to be a little less inclined that direction simply because of their chosen disciplines but in social settings they are generally either silent or drowned out by their more reactionary fellows.

I wish  I had his patience. I bet the man doesn't even swear while driving.

While I have no large population to work with, we took a poll on personality types and about 90% of our class of 73 are considered introverts. Not sure how that plays into your theory, but it's interesting.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on February 20, 2017, 04:08:17 pm
Agreed.  For research purposes its probably just anecdotal but I imagine the trend would hold up fairly well in a larger sampling as well. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 20, 2017, 06:58:59 pm
Agreed.  For research purposes its probably just anecdotal but I imagine the trend would hold up fairly well in a larger sampling as well.

Coming from me, yes it's anecdotal. But we do have the results recorded, so it could be statistical  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on February 20, 2017, 07:08:20 pm
Ok - but after a couple of beers it becomes rhetorical .  .  .   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 20, 2017, 07:17:26 pm
Psh, I don't need alcohol to be full of rhetoric  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 22, 2017, 01:48:27 pm
https://youtu.be/xsBZeU9sAII
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on February 22, 2017, 03:14:54 pm
My gut call on this is that Milo is speaking the truth.
Some ill considered statements, put in the context of an abuse survivor vs an advocate.
And very much in agreement that all this is essentially a coordinated hit piece to which his flamboyant and provocative style left him wide open. 
I don't think he's an advocate of buggering young boys, and I do think he's being smeared in an attempt to diminish or discredit his ability to challenge the SJW crowd.


Put another way, I'd be %100 percent comfortable with him in a scoutmaster role over a child of mine.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 22, 2017, 03:25:30 pm
My gut call on this is that Milo is speaking the truth.
Some ill considered statements, put in the context of an abuse survivor vs an advocate.
And very much in agreement that all this is essentially a coordinated hit piece to which his flamboyant and provocative style left him wide open. 
I don't think he's an advocate of buggering young boys, and I do think he's being smeared in an attempt to diminish or discredit his ability to challenge the SJW crowd.


Put another way, I'd be %100 percent comfortable with him in a scoutmaster role over a child of mine.

Agreed. The worst thing that would come out of it would be your son would become an expert troll, with an irreverence to authority.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on February 22, 2017, 06:44:07 pm
Agreed.  Milo is what he is and to the degree that they could get some mileage out of him those promoting him have done so and now want nothing more to do with him.  There's more than a bit of the prostitute in that kind of behavior but, as with Mr. Yiannapolis it is what it is. 

I have become jaded enough over time that nothing much surprises me anymore.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 23, 2017, 06:14:23 am
https://youtu.be/ZB319dPzGIg

https://youtu.be/KP7vi9oLk54
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on February 24, 2017, 01:42:24 am
Bearing puts a grin on my face.   :cool    Also, another well researched and well reasoned piece from Sargon.   :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 24, 2017, 01:17:59 pm
https://youtu.be/EuJyEqbC3ts

https://youtu.be/uHtFq41Lbrc

https://youtu.be/4Lmyc5YpxUg

Title of second video is misleading. His "opponent" is playing devils advocate and agreeing with him.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on February 24, 2017, 11:55:58 pm
I like Dr. Peterson's style.   :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 27, 2017, 06:48:03 pm
https://youtu.be/v3gC2OJkx_A
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on February 28, 2017, 08:47:57 pm
Nailed it.   :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on February 28, 2017, 11:36:36 pm
While these aren't about SJW's necessarily, but I've been having fun by taking a closer look at Jordan Peterson and his material.

https://youtu.be/9VM1UA0pCMQ

Here is a link to his lecture channel through this video below

https://youtu.be/XbOeO_frzvg
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 01, 2017, 02:11:17 pm
Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

https://youtu.be/veAPVuuUSUY
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 01, 2017, 09:04:23 pm
Social equity and "utopia".

https://youtu.be/OlB_xNOAn1c
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 02, 2017, 12:26:57 am
Well, he certainly sounds like he's on board with what Andrew Breitbart wrote about in his book "Righteous Indignation" .   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 02, 2017, 05:58:30 am
Well, he certainly sounds like he's on board with what Andrew Breitbart wrote about in his book "Righteous Indignation" .   :hmm

I never read that one. Care to elucidate any?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 02, 2017, 02:07:35 pm
Sort of a fairly light-hearted, non-academic screed against the dominant leftist culture in media and academia.  He exposes their tactics and motivations, their history and beliefs and generally lets some badly needed sunlight into that situation. 

Actually, Dr. Peterson makes a fairly strong case for straight up Marxism rather than the cultural Marxism often referenced today.  PoMoFascistas (Post Modern Fascists ) is also a term that has been coined to describe the phenomenon. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 02, 2017, 11:22:05 pm
https://youtu.be/5wSqGOxmM2A
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 03, 2017, 12:16:03 am
Fun facts about Twitter:  1)  The root word of Twitter is twit.  twit (n ):  a foolish or annoying person. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 05, 2017, 10:05:28 am
https://youtu.be/XaWs_aD28TQ

This is a very well put together video. I've heard these arguments, but never have I seen them all put so succinctly in one video before.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 05, 2017, 04:52:35 pm
Wow.  That was some pretty powerful stuff.  I'll be passing that one along.  Thanks for posting it. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 05, 2017, 05:02:40 pm
Wow.  That was some pretty powerful stuff.  I'll be passing that one along.  Thanks for posting it.

No problem!  :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 05, 2017, 07:28:32 pm
https://youtu.be/9zmcYB8ItHA

"we are at the point now where universities are doing more harm than good."
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 06, 2017, 01:05:26 am
Well, I think the only reason it took him this long to arrive at that conclusion is the fact that he is a university professor.   :shrug   Couple that with your previous video that shows the statistic of steadily decreasing male enrollment in and graduation from colleges and universities and you can see that a lot of folks already think that.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on March 06, 2017, 07:00:07 am
The entire podcast of Dr. Peterson and Joe Rogan is excellent.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 07, 2017, 12:56:01 pm
https://youtu.be/qo6ujFYWat0

One of the astute YT commenters: So bathroom signs are sexist because they portray women in skirts, and crossing signs are sexist because they don't portray women in skirts?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 08, 2017, 09:39:01 am
https://youtu.be/GJdmLu18Vzk

Steven Crowder, cross dressing for freedom and lulz.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 08, 2017, 07:41:29 pm
https://youtu.be/Awot-d8U9Cc
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 09, 2017, 10:35:13 pm
Pretty good compilation.  It sort of reminded me of a conversation I had once with a young woman re: the term "gender equality".  I asked what that term even meant outside the context of an academic discussion.   She thought briefly while chewing her cud ( at least I assume she was thinking .  .  .  ) and left me with "We all have to be equal.".   :scrutiny   I asked her in what way were we not equal?  She opined that men get paid a lot more for doing the same work.  I asked her how much could she lift over her shoulder and carry and how long could she continue doing it without a break ?   Sensing my line of reasoning, she opined that it wasn't a fair comparison because I was stronger than her.  I agreed and pointed out that we were, in fact, not equal in terms of ability in that case.  A person who is bigger and stronger and capable of doing more work should either be paid more for doing so or paid the same as a less capable worker and simply held to the lesser standard of the less capable worker to collect the same pay, no?  She hemmed and hawed a bit and never really found a way out of the logical conundrum and retreated to the "unfairness of the system" in order to save face.  When I pointed out that men are uniquely qualified to do most of the dirty and dangerous work that must be done in any society and that we do so gladly so that the women we cherish would be saved from having to do it she got mad and walked away.   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 09, 2017, 10:54:08 pm
Pretty good compilation.  It sort of reminded me of a conversation I had once with a young woman re: the term "gender equality".  I asked what that term even meant outside the context of an academic discussion.   She thought briefly while chewing her cud ( at least I assume she was thinking .  .  .  ) and left me with "We all have to be equal.".   :scrutiny   I asked her in what way were we not equal?  She opined that men get paid a lot more for doing the same work.  I asked her how much could she lift over her shoulder and carry and how long could she continue doing it without a break ?   Sensing my line of reasoning, she opined that it wasn't a fair comparison because I was stronger than her.  I agreed and pointed out that we were, in fact, not equal in terms of ability in that case.  A person who is bigger and stronger and capable of doing more work should either be paid more for doing so or paid the same as a less capable worker and simply held to the lesser standard of the less capable worker to collect the same pay, no?  She hemmed and hawed a bit and never really found a way out of the logical conundrum and retreated to the "unfairness of the system" in order to save face.  When I pointed out that men are uniquely qualified to do most of the dirty and dangerous work that must be done in any society and that we do so gladly so that the women we cherish would be saved from having to do it she got mad and walked away.   :hmm

That is one of the things that interests me, that feminist Camille Paglia talks about: How men have literally in the past built society for women and sacrificed their bodies and lives in construction and war. If modern woman continues on like this, could modern man actually be demotivated enough to just... Stop behaving as we did in the past? If those you give gifts to are ungrateful, do you keep giving them gofts just to be b____ed at?

Of course I am only speaking in hypotheticals. Thankfully the 3rd gen feminist is a creature only found on college campuses, and she is certainly not the majority. The great majority of women that I know in my personal life have a sense of empathy that is worth emulating and a tenacious work ethic that puts many of today's young men to shame.

There is a branch that is the polar opposite of feminism, which I suppose in all fairness I should share it here, because it is as equally absurd. The MGTOW movement (men going their own way).

I really get upset at those guys, though (which is why I try to not share it). No one likes to be taken advantage of and gold diggers and the like do exist, but the MGTOW bunch are a... special bunch. Clown shoes special  :scrutiny.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 09, 2017, 11:13:25 pm
Not really familiar with that group but I think they are about equivalent in terms of actual numbers to the hard core feminists.  That is to say, a very small minority of the total number of women in a given society - even ours.  As Dr. Peterson pointed out, albeit in different terminology,  all the whining and bleating and complaining going on is essentially a First World problem.  In other words, if you have it so good that you never have to even imagine going without nutritious food,  proper clothing, effective shelter or a wireless internet connection you are privileged beyond belief.  You truly do inhabit that rarified strata attained by only a tiny fraction of a percent of all the people who have ever lived.  The fact that you can do so while simultaneously complaining about the conditions of the society that affords you this luxury is simply a testament to your own colossal ignorance.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 09, 2017, 11:36:17 pm
Not really familiar with that group but I think they are about equivalent in terms of actual numbers to the hard core feminists.  That is to say, a very small minority of the total number of women in a given society - even ours.  As Dr. Peterson pointed out, albeit in different terminology,  all the whining and bleating and complaining going on is essentially a First World problem.  In other words, if you have it so good that you never have to even imagine going without nutritious food,  proper clothing, effective shelter or a wireless internet connection you are privileged beyond belief.  You truly do inhabit that rarified strata attained by only a tiny fraction of a percent of all the people who have ever lived.  The fact that you can do so while simultaneously complaining about the conditions of the society that affords you this luxury is simply a testament to your own colossal ignorance.

Agreed.

And sigh. Let me see if I can find a MGTOW video or two that doesn't make me want to be done with both sexes, people in general, and only associate with dogs from now on. I like dogs. They are quiet enough to allow me time to think, they are loyal, and they don't care that I'm a bad cook. In fact the only thing I don't like about them is their short life spans.

Where was I?...

Oh yes, scouring the internet for horrible SJW videos  :facepalm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 09, 2017, 11:43:53 pm
So, we have the yin/yang equivalent of the patently absurd.  Millennial feminists and their male counterparts  :facepalm.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on March 10, 2017, 12:02:31 am
There is a branch that is the polar opposite of feminism, which I suppose in all fairness I should share it here, because it is as equally absurd. The MGTOW movement (men going their own way).

I really get upset at those guys, though (which is why I try to not share it). No one likes to be taken advantage of and gold diggers and the like do exist, but the MGTOW bunch are a... special bunch. Clown shoes special  :scrutiny.
Oh yes, those guys... :facepalm

I happened across their website one day, and ended up running away in terror.  I was momentarily drawn in because their line of reasoning is not 100% absurd, but quickly found that they take it waaayyy to far.  So far as to the point of a religion.  I actually intended to share the whole site to WTA - in the Random Internet Weirdness thread - but I forgot.

If I am honest, I got the distinct vibe that their members are largely those who were doomed to be lifelong virgins anyway, either because of some personal quality of undesirability to women, or just because they were flat out too scared to talk to them.  The mgtow 'movement' is just a fancy way for those types to feel good about being losers, and to blame it all on women.

One of the things I noticed before I ran away was a looong list of famous men who were bachelors. (conspicuously absent was President James Buchanan)  It was a nice list, but it misses a key point: Those guys were all bachelors, yes, but so have been most Catholic priests in history.  Who can name any of them, outside of the most famous?  Very few.  No one can, because they really didn't accomplish anything great - like most of us will not.  One key thing they give up is the chance to reproduce and raise their children.  This is just as much a civic and patriotic duty as voting, and a human one as well. I respect that priests do it for their faith, but I cannot respect 300lb armchair commandos who blame their undesirability on females - in just the same way 3GF types want to whore around shamelessly, and blame 'men' for the holes in their arguments.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 10, 2017, 12:04:04 am
https://youtu.be/TTi_I1tR1rI

https://youtu.be/e0_29eCZF_M

https://youtu.be/qQTgSU6PC7s

https://youtu.be/GSmfJ9QlTY0

Here ya go :hide .
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 10, 2017, 12:10:55 am
Oh yes, those guys... :facepalm

I happened across their website one day, and ended up running away in terror.  I was momentarily drawn in because their line of reasoning is not 100% absurd, but quickly found that they take it waaayyy to far.  So far as to the point of a religion.  I actually intended to share the whole site to WTA - in the Random Internet Weirdness thread - but I forgot.

If I am honest, I got the distinct vibe that their members are largely those who were doomed to be lifelong virgins anyway, either because of some personal quality of undesirability to women, or just because they were flat out too scared to talk to them.  The mgtow 'movement' is just a fancy way for those types to feel good about being losers, and to blame it all on women.

One of the things I noticed before I ran away was a looong list of famous men who were bachelors. (conspicuously absent was President James Buchanan)  It was a nice list, but it misses a key point: Those guys were all bachelors, yes, but so have been most Catholic priests in history.  Who can name any of them, outside of the most famous?  Very few.  No one can, because they really didn't accomplish anything great - like most of us will not.  One key thing they give up is the chance to reproduce and raise their children.  This is just as much a civic and patriotic duty as voting, and a human one as well. I respect that priests do it for their faith, but I cannot respect 300lb armchair commandos who blame their undesirability on females - in just the same way 3GF types want to whore around shamelessly, and blame 'men' for the holes in their arguments.

Interesting, regarding the MGTOW a______s being wholly undesirable, we differ in our perspectives on this  :hmm.

I am a firm believer that humans are biologically programmed to absolutely fluff each others brains out. We were meant to reproduce and I think there is someone for everyone. In my personal experience, it's harder to not give into temptation then it is to avoid it.

Now the quality of partner may vary, but you can definitely pair up with someone rather easily.


Regarding the MGTOW movement? I'm not really sure what is wrong with those guys.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on March 10, 2017, 12:29:07 am
I am a firm believer that humans are biologically programmed to absolutely fluff each others brains out. We were meant to reproduce and I think there is someone for everyone. In my personal experience, it's harder to not give into temptation then it is to avoid it.

Now the quality of partner may vary, but you can definitely pair up with someone rather easily.
Sure, you can find a hooker pretty easily, and a whore is not much more difficult.  But do you want to?  Should you want to? Biologically/instinctively speaking?  Because if we boil it down to that, looking at it from an animal perspective, MGTOWs and 3GFs are the very bottom of quality for mates.  Children from those unions would be at a serious disadvantage in life, materially, but also genetically.  (I am a firm believer in 80+% Nature vs Nurture)

If all you want to do is screw something to have some kids, that is easily enough found.  But go with the quickest and easiest (and here the MGTOWs have a point) and the 'baby momma' will clean you out for the next 18 years. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 10, 2017, 12:41:44 am
Sure, you can find a hooker pretty easily, and a whore is not much more difficult.  But do you want to?  Should you want to? Biologically/instinctively speaking?  Because if we boil it down to that, looking at it from an animal perspective, MGTOWs and 3GFs are the very bottom of quality for mates.  Children from those unions would be at a serious disadvantage in life, materially, but also genetically.  (I am a firm believer in 80+% Nature vs Nurture)

If all you want to do is screw something to have some kids, that is easily enough found.  But go with the quickest and easiest (and here the MGTOWs have a point) and the 'baby momma' will clean you out for the next 18 years.

Oh no, I agree. I keep telling my more sexually active friends that if all they are after is a female, then literally any physical female will do. They don't like my reasoning so much, when I point out how empty such pursuits are.

Either way we're all screwed though  ;). My buddies are shallow and banging anything with a heartbeat and a hole, and I'm holding out for an intellectual and caring Mrs. right. So far both my friends and I are horrible, miserable fellows. You just can't win  :P.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 10, 2017, 12:42:27 am
So, we have the yin/yang equivalent of the patently absurd.  Millennial feminists and their male counterparts  :facepalm.   
I guess I didn't realize how right I was.   :shocked   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 10, 2017, 12:54:13 am
I guess I didn't realize how right I was.   :shocked   

Yes sir, it's as if they listened to Dr. Dre back in '94 and took his line of "b____es ain't nothin' but hoes and tricks" to heart and then formed a whole political movement off of it.

I tried telling you  ;) , these guys are pretty awful.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 10, 2017, 01:04:04 am
I keep getting this flashback from many years ago .  .  .  it was an island full of misfit toys.  Perhaps we could send all the 3GF's and MGTOWS there together.  At least it would be fun to watch for a few hours.   :whistle
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on March 10, 2017, 01:08:00 am
Well, this thread has taken a hilariously absurd turn.   :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 10, 2017, 01:18:29 am
 :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 10, 2017, 01:42:06 pm
https://youtu.be/VZsHcUk_Kik

Social justice is suffering monetary, status, and job loss for having the "wrong opinion".
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 10, 2017, 07:43:14 pm
Couldn't happen to a nicer or more richly deserving bunch of people.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 10, 2017, 07:53:49 pm
Couldn't happen to a nicer or more richly deserving bunch of people.   :coffee

While I support gay marriage, I'm not too keen on someone getting fired for donating to a political organisation. Even if what they were supporting is against what I personally believe.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 10, 2017, 08:02:22 pm
I was actually referring to the loss of support urged by Mr. Shapiro but yes, you and I are in agreement that losing your job because of political correctness is unacceptable.   Cultural Marxism is uglier than a boar javelina and smells even worse. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 12, 2017, 09:17:39 am
https://youtu.be/myafsZB3Bwk
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 12, 2017, 12:22:41 pm
That is a refreshingly honest appraisal and outlook.   :hmm     The Force is strong in that one.    :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 14, 2017, 10:02:13 am
https://youtu.be/TJyQpRfaGnw

Oh, Australia  :facepalm. We went from "that's not a knife" to "that's not gender equality".

How did this woman make it to this high of an area of Australian government? Why did no one confront her that she was being snarky other than the gentleman whom her insults were directed at?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 14, 2017, 10:39:14 am
This woman's thought process is wonderfully refined. I'm still scratching my head as to how she was ever a SJW in the first place?

https://youtu.be/ZUeWPdvckP8
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 14, 2017, 10:54:47 am
https://youtu.be/71o3hq6iSPM

I think this guy is a comedian or... Something? Idk, never heard of him before, but he preaches common sense against a double standard.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 14, 2017, 01:52:56 pm
Ok - first video of the Aussie senate.  That man deserves a medal and the woman deserves a swift kick in the a&& .   Rationality is a rare commodity on the left, even among those who attain some degree of achievement.   Second video - I agree with your assessment.  Have you noticed that the longer women of a more rational mindset speak, the more interesting they become?  Have you also noticed that the longer women without even a tenuous connection to rationality speak, the less interesting they become?   :hmm    Third video - Looks like a seminar of some sort, maybe in relation to a recently book release or something.  The man is speaking straight up common sense for those willing to listen.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 14, 2017, 04:45:16 pm
Ok - first video of the Aussie senate.  That man deserves a medal and the woman deserves a swift kick in the a&& .   Rationality is a rare commodity on the left, even among those who attain some degree of achievement.   Second video - I agree with your assessment.  Have you noticed that the longer women of a more rational mindset speak, the more interesting they become?  Have you also noticed that the longer women without even a tenuous connection to rationality speak, the less interesting they become?   :hmm    Third video - Looks like a seminar of some sort, maybe in relation to a recently book release or something.  The man is speaking straight up common sense for those willing to listen.

1. The man has more patience than I do. He also isn't shy about publicly showing someone's ass when they expose it, which has a similarly impressive, albeit less refined, Trey Gowdy quality to it.

2. Absolutely. Women who are well spoken and fiercely passionate about matters of substance achieve a level of intrigue second to none. I have a theory that I go by which is "pretty Vs attractive". It's like comparing a beautiful vase and a book on philosophy. One may be beautifully painted, but in the end it is empty inside, while the other is much more complex. It's cover does not reveal all of its substance and depth with a short glance and one can find themselves both nodding in agreement with, and being challenged by what it contains. It's no contest which one is more exciting, if you ask me.

3. I really like his view, after all, since when did the golden rule get pigeon holed just because dinner was involved? Sadly, you could see that quite a few of the women were pissed in the video by what he spoke.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 14, 2017, 07:53:42 pm
Which I believe I covered in my response to the second video.   ;)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on March 14, 2017, 08:20:22 pm
Interesting, regarding the MGTOW a______s being wholly undesirable, we differ in our perspectives on this  :hmm.

I am a firm believer that humans are biologically programmed to absolutely fluff each others brains out. We were meant to reproduce and I think there is someone for everyone. In my personal experience, it's harder to not give into temptation then it is to avoid it.

Now the quality of partner may vary, but you can definitely pair up with someone rather easily.


I agree.

Around here for every feminist man hater, there are easily a dozen willing women. If anything they are a pain in the ass especially when we have young, eager men and young and equally eager women working together on the same squads. I am so glad I'm not a patrol sergeant any more and dealing with that drama.

Then there's the all female clerks of court...oh gawd...talk about on the hunt. Our chief asked us older officers to keep the younger officers out of the clerks office as much as possible. He was taken aback when I told him that age wasn't a problem with them as a couple had "daddy issues."

Maybe this is an urban thang because out here in the countryside, men and women are still very much into each other, no pun intended.

 :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on March 14, 2017, 08:46:20 pm
If you are a man, and do not have to defend yourself from the ladies in the modern era. Then you got some serious issues.
Everytime I have been on the local college campuses. It has been ladies attacking any poor fellow not quick enough on his feet to escape.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 14, 2017, 09:16:54 pm
Which I believe I covered in my response to the second video.   ;)

 :rotfl

What? I was agreeing with you! We make a fine echo chamber  :neener .

I agree.

Around here for every feminist man hater, there are easily a dozen willing women. If anything they are a pain in the ass especially when we have young, eager men and young and equally eager women working together on the same squads. I am so glad I'm not a patrol sergeant any more and dealing with that drama.

Then there's the all female clerks of court...oh gawd...talk about on the hunt. Our chief asked us older officers to keep the younger officers out of the clerks office as much as possible. He was taken aback when I told him that age wasn't a problem with them as a couple had "daddy issues."

Maybe this is an urban thang because out here in the countryside, men and women are still very much into each other, no pun intended.

 :facepalm

 Humans are an interesting bunch. If they're not fighting eachother, then they're fluffing  :shrug. I guess I shouldn't be surprised to hear the same occurring among officers, but it's not really something I hear much about.

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 15, 2017, 06:17:47 pm
Just to sprinkle a little salt in the open wound of SJW outrage, our friends at the BBC released this: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKL9b5-DL4A
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 15, 2017, 06:48:12 pm
 :rotfl

I'm surprised they can get away with that! I understand that London, like Germany is being taken over by refugees and they're walking on egg shells around Muslims to not be called "racist" or "bigoted".
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 15, 2017, 07:43:35 pm
Apparently the muslim community is "outraged".   OK - thanks for sharing -  :coffee.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 15, 2017, 08:52:15 pm
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/real-housewives-of-isis-bbc-controversy-outrage-twitter-muslims-asian-hijabi-terrorism-duty-satire-a7511261.html?amp
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 15, 2017, 09:36:34 pm
Perhaps Britain is not totally lost after all.   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 15, 2017, 10:33:22 pm
Perhaps Britain is not totally lost after all.   :hmm

 :scrutiny You're starting to regain faith in humanity and Britain? I'm sorry, I just can't allow that.

'Racist' abusers have now added weaponised karaoke to their arsenal of hate  :banghead. This is a crime worth being arrested for... Apparently  :facepalm.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1380971/Simon-Ledger-arrested-racism-performing-Kung-Fu-Fighting.html
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on March 16, 2017, 02:06:29 am
My scrappy youngest daughter is always trying to one up me by calling me a racist, a misogynist, etc. Her latest was "So you're saying I'm a dumb little girl" thinking she would shame me into backing down during a rapidly escalating argument she was having with me and her mother. My response: "Yes I am. What about it." I pretty much respond the same when she accuses me of being racist, sexist, whatever is the flavor of the day. Agreeing with her and asking "Yeah, So what?" disarms the hell out of her. I wish she'd catch on so she'd quit. I finally had to explain to her that I, her uncles, her grandfather and all my friends do not give a s_ _ t about those labels anymore since we are damned if we do and damned if we don't. She's not going to shame us into backing down or giving in to her silly teenage demands. There  also a certain freedom in that as well. Too many today tuck tail and scamper away at the slightest accusation that they are of a certain un-PC nature.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 16, 2017, 03:24:15 am
 :thumbup1   I have a nephew who is graduating high school this year.  Pretty good kid for the most part but as folks that age are prone to do he brings a certain amount of that kind of baggage home with him.  By now he knows that his dad and I will cut him zero slack when he starts mouthing any of that foolishness.  At this point he's become something of a pariah within the PC crowd at school because he has ( gasp  :shocked ) an actual job that he works at after school and on week-ends.   Nothing like getting an education in real world economics to act as an antidote to that sort of thing. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 18, 2017, 01:27:31 am
https://youtu.be/Zd7ozC4omLk

https://youtu.be/QpdyRGUtfT8
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 18, 2017, 02:49:46 am
I'm clearly behind the curve here.  I have never even heard of "the male gaze" before.  Unless maybe I heard the two words used together and drew a completely erroneous conclusion about what was being discussed.   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on March 18, 2017, 06:24:30 am
Nothing like getting an education in real world economics to act as an antidote to that sort of thing. 

Yes. My oldest daughter's moment of truth came when she got her first paycheck and asked "WTH is all this stuff they took out???"

"Well dear, you know all those able bodied deadbeat cousins that your grandma and auntie always make excuses for? That's one reason for starters that there's so much money taken out of your check..."
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on March 18, 2017, 09:41:20 am
Yes. My oldest daughter's moment of truth came when she got her first paycheck and asked "WTH is all this stuff they took out???"
And I take it that was 'racist' or something?  :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 18, 2017, 07:17:17 pm
https://youtu.be/TFJV-tbgPsA

She got a little ad hominem at the end, but she sounds like someone who's pissed to see their home country go to ruin in the name of PC, anti-xenophobia, and "fairness".
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 18, 2017, 08:44:41 pm
Well, after several minutes of cataloging the "f**k it up according to plan" behavior of the German government as well as the rest of the E.U. I suppose she can be forgiven a fit of pique at the end of the video. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 18, 2017, 09:13:47 pm
Well, after several minutes of cataloging the "f**k it up according to plan" behavior of the German government as well as the rest of the E.U. I suppose she can be forgiven a fit of pique at the end of the video.

Agreed. I'm sure in our future we'll see some otherwise good people and truly red blooded, patriotic Americans shoot off at the mouth, because they too are upset to see our country go to s___.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 19, 2017, 11:36:13 am
https://youtu.be/Ni-6RcDY-a4

It seems they're becoming divisive in their own ranks.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 19, 2017, 02:13:52 pm
Nah, that looks to me like finely crafted satire.   Which in this case is one of the premier melee weapons for such encounters.   :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on March 20, 2017, 03:54:26 pm
And I take it that was 'racist' or something?  :rotfl

No, that's the youngest daughter (17 yrs old) that pulls the race card etc. The oldest (24 yrs old) is pretty cool and along with her Marine brother has already come to the "Mom and dad, you were right about a lot of things" moment.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on March 20, 2017, 09:33:57 pm
No, that's the youngest daughter (17 yrs old) that pulls the race card etc. The oldest (24 yrs old) is pretty cool and along with her Marine brother has already come to the "Mom and dad, you were right about a lot of things" moment.
Ah, got it.  Honestly, she may well grow out of it, too.  I know my sister who is also 17 gets these wild hair ideas about how "we do it wrong, and my life is going to be lived ______ differently."  She also outgrows theses fancies with regularity, only to move on to a different one.  :shrug
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 20, 2017, 09:37:41 pm
Found an interesting clip with John Wayne talking about immigrants, minorities, and the treatment of women. Seeing as those are frequently topics covered here, thought it might fit.

https://youtu.be/WUzRyPuuSVQ
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 20, 2017, 11:58:11 pm
Not too different, really, from most of his generation except he managed to land in Hollywood and make it big.  Strikes me as the kind of guy you could sit down and have a glass of sour mash whiskey and a cigar with and solve most of the world's problems in an afternoon.    :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 21, 2017, 12:09:07 am
Not too different, really, from most of his generation except he managed to land in Hollywood and make it big.  Strikes me as the kind of guy you could sit down and have a glass of sour mash whiskey and a cigar with and solve most of the world's problems in an afternoon.    :cool

Agreed, I would reckon his views weren't at all that out of touch with the general American public at the time. Which brings up a question, I'm curious where the thought process went and how both politicians and Hollywood got so out of touch with the general public?

Furthermore, how did the cultural zeitgeist get from those values and way of thinking to being changed to how it is today? Is it lack of Judeo-Christian culture? Is it lack of hardship in American's lives? What caused things to go wrong?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 21, 2017, 01:11:48 am
How long have you got?   :hmm   The questions you ask are and have been the subject of more than one doctoral dissertation.   

I could launch into some rambling, long winded answer that attempts to tie it all up into a nice neat bundle for you but I'd say the best authority on the subject that I know would be President Ronald Wilson Reagan.   An internet search for his speeches from the early days of his fledgling political career to the final days of his second administration will bring you words of more clarity and insight into the twentieth century than anything else I know.  It ought to be required reading for anyone who asks the questions you just posed.  He lived it and shaped a great deal of it.  He was a contemporary of John Wayne's but a good deal more thoughtful and well spoken. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on March 21, 2017, 01:24:07 am
Agreed, I would reckon his views weren't at all that out of touch with the general American public at the time. Which brings up a question, I'm curious where the thought process went and how both politicians and Hollywood got so out of touch with the general public?

Furthermore, how did the cultural zeitgeist get from those values and way of thinking to being changed to how it is today? Is it lack of Judeo-Christian culture? Is it lack of hardship in American's lives? What caused things to go wrong?
At the risk of sounding like I'm wearing shiny metallic haberdashery, I suspect that the left leaning progressive crowd intentionally infiltrated Hollywood and the media and slowly began to green light projects that cast traditional values in a poor light, maybe not as bad or evil but as foolish which may be more damaging, blocking or sabotaging projects that cast traditional values in a good light,  and finally by pushing and hyping projects that encouraged more "progressive" behavior reinforced with appeals to the baser side of human nature.
Psyops, in other words.

As much as I hate to say it, McCarthy's fears may well have been based in reality despite how poorly he tried to deal with those concerns.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: goatroper on March 21, 2017, 07:22:28 pm
When I first saw this I thought it was just a joke:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/03/20/latest-snowflake-outrage-wonder-woman-has-no-armpit-hair/

Apparently some folks don't think so:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445941/people-are-upset-wonder-woman-does-not-have-armpit-hair-feminist-reasons

Some folks have way too much time on their hands.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: goatroper on March 21, 2017, 07:40:09 pm
At the risk of sounding like I'm wearing shiny metallic haberdashery, I suspect that the left leaning progressive crowd intentionally infiltrated Hollywood and the media and slowly began to green light projects that cast traditional values in a poor light, maybe not as bad or evil but as foolish which may be more damaging, blocking or sabotaging projects that cast traditional values in a good light,  and finally by pushing and hyping projects that encouraged more "progressive" behavior reinforced with appeals to the baser side of human nature.
Psyops, in other words.

As much as I hate to say it, McCarthy's fears may well have been based in reality despite how poorly he tried to deal with those concerns.

There are others who think so.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=260

I'm not endorsing or refuting this view, as I don't have enough background knowledge, but it doesn't sound as tinfoil-worthy as it once would have.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 21, 2017, 08:11:58 pm
When I first saw this I thought it was just a joke:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/03/20/latest-snowflake-outrage-wonder-woman-has-no-armpit-hair/

Apparently some folks don't think so:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445941/people-are-upset-wonder-woman-does-not-have-armpit-hair-feminist-reasons

Some folks have way too much time on their hands.

It would be my hope that one day we could set an example for our little girls that they don't have to change their body image or standard of beauty, just to please the matriarchal 3rd gen feminist society which we live in  :coffee.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 22, 2017, 12:18:07 am
We already did.  Nobody has to even give that bunch the time of day - much less try to conform to whatever standard the find acceptable this week.   :scrutiny
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on March 22, 2017, 04:10:41 pm
Gal Gadot in ANY form...damnation what a woman.

That is all.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 22, 2017, 07:47:48 pm
https://youtu.be/fKJEfqVg6Ho
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 22, 2017, 07:53:40 pm
http://amp.dailycaller.com/2015/02/07/meanwhile-at-berkeley-queering-agriculture/http://cssc.berkeley.edu

(https://wethearmed.com/wp-content/themes/cssc/images/strawberry.png)

Queering agriculture.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 22, 2017, 09:50:33 pm
https://youtu.be/f7TpOxm-440

There's a whole heap of truth packed into this one minute.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on March 22, 2017, 11:47:44 pm
http://amp.dailycaller.com/2015/02/07/meanwhile-at-berkeley-queering-agriculture/

(https://wethearmed.com/wp-content/themes/cssc/images/strawberry.png)

Queering agriculture.
I fixed the link in my quote.  Here is the text, because this needs to be read:

Quote
The University of California, Berkeley will be hosting a lecture next week dedicated to the peculiar matter of “Queering Agriculture.”

“So why queer agriculture?” the event description opens. “This seems like an odd question but becomes more obvious with research and analysis.”

The lecture will be given on Feb. 10 by Bailey Kier, a Ph.D candidate at the University of Maryland. Kier is no rookie when it comes to queer studies, having already written a dissertation on the “queer geography of the Potomac River Basic.”

It is difficult to explain just what it means to “queer” something. But in essence, it amounts to re-evaluating the basic nature of a topic from the perspective of sexuality and reproduction. Helpfully, the event description includes a drawing of a person of uncertain gender passionately kissing an enormous strawberry.

Confusing? Sure, but according to Kier it is an extremely important matter.


“[Q]ueering and trans-ing ideas and practices of agriculture are necessary for more sustainable, sovereign, and equitable food systems for the creatures and systems involved in systemic reproductions that feed humans and other creatures,” the description continues. “Since agriculture is literally the backbone of economics, politics, and ‘civilized’ life as we know it, and the manipulation of reproduction and sexuality are a foundation of agriculture, it is absolutely crucial queer and transgender studies begin to deal more seriously with the subject of agriculture.”

Kier also suggests that since 9/11 (which is somehow related), the movement toward “sustainable agriculture” has been burdened by unwarranted assumptions that give agriculture a heterosexual, human-centered identity.


“By focusing on popular culture representations and government legislation since 9/11, it will become clearer how the growing popularity of sustainable food is laden with anthroheterocentric assumptions of the ‘good life’ coupled with idealized images and ideas of the American farm, and gender, radicalized  and normative standards of health, family, and nation,” the summary says. The consequences of such anthroheterocentrism can only be guessed at.

UC Berkeley currently receives over $300 million a year from California taxpayer.


So it really has come to that?  This is where our great civilization has fallen to?

Kaso thoughtfully considers the things he would do to those people if he were the king:
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j396/ericjcostello/Mobile%20Uploads/Hitler_zpsz1jlkrrl.jpg) (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/ericjcostello/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Hitler_zpsz1jlkrrl.jpg.html)


In all seriousness?  We Americans have gotten too soft.  We have things so good that we have time to worry about 'queering' our agriculture - when that is the only damned thing in this country that is still 100% straight.  We need to have another depression, or a war - a real war, where we have an even chance of losing - in order to give the leftists some perspective on things.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 23, 2017, 12:12:40 am
Sargon teed it up and hit it long in that last clip.    :thumbup1    "Queering"  agriculture ?   :scrutiny   Spoken like a true child of privilege who has spent a lifetime engaged in spending an excess of money and time and has absolutely nothing of worth to show for it.   And, Dr. Peterson's point in the clip about the left and Saudi Arabia is right on the money. 

In case you haven't noticed, WE ARE ALREADY IN A WAR.   The Cold War didn't really end, it just shifted tactics and theaters of operations.   
https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2017/01/24/americas-second-civil-war-n2275896

That is why the left is losing their collective mind over the Trump presidency.  It represents the first major setback they've experienced in years.  If we screw around and fail to take the initiative this opportunity affords us there will no longer be anything left of the United States of America that the founders and all since fought and bled and died for. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on March 23, 2017, 04:00:08 pm
In case you haven't noticed, WE ARE ALREADY IN A WAR.   The Cold War didn't really end, it just shifted tactics and theaters of operations.

https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2017/01/24/americas-second-civil-war-n2275896

That is why the left is losing their collective mind over the Trump presidency.  It represents the first major setback they've experienced in years.  If we screw around and fail to take the initiative this opportunity affords us there will no longer be anything left of the United States of America that the founders and all since fought and bled and died for. 

 
I have to disagree about the Cold War.  The Cold War was between the USSR (Russia) and the USA, but they were never the real antagonists.  They were merely proxies of the two competing ideologies, the Right and the Left, as your link accurately states.  The Right and the Left have been going at it for a long time, and That is the war still ongoing.

As much as the Left used communism, and still uses socialism and environmentalism as useful tools to advance its goals, the Right has used capitalism, nationalism, and yes, would also have gladly used national socialism as well, had WW2 not happened.  Still, in the end, just useful tools for the true powers at war.

To the rest, you are correct, we have been given a brief reprieve.  A stay of execution.  What we do with it is up to us.  In the end, I don't know if it matters.  As much as I embrace the idea of American Nationalism, and as much as I wish that All Americans would drop the hyphen and see themselves as Americans first...  I am thinking we are too late for that.  Even eight years of Trump will be too little, too late. 

The concept of an American race and people has been destroyed by the sickness of multiculturalism - the idea that you can 'be here,' but not 'be us.'  We do not identify as 'Americans' first, but Black, White, Gay, Straight, Rich, Poor, Immigrant, Native born, etc.  Those are what we tend to think of first, even the best of us.  That is why it would take generations of a strong, pro-America government to turn things around enough.  And that just isn't going to happen.  I guess the best thing I am hoping for in the next eight years is for the older, liberal SCOTUS judges to all die off, allowing our side to stack the court full of conservatives for a generation.  It will not solve anything, but might make things a bit less unpleasant for 'our side.'  Perhaps make the crash of our civilization a 'glide,' not a 'tailspin.'

So what to do?  Nothing we can do, so don't fret about it.  What will come will come.  The best I can say is use these next four (hopefully eight) years to get ourselves ready.  Stock up, get out of debt... be prepared to ride out some unpleasantness.  If you live around lots of people, make strategic connections now, with people who are like you - Politically, spiritually, racially, and most of all Blood Relatives.  Decide who your people are, and associate more with them. 

Decide who is going to have your back when things get rough, and who you are going to stand with when it is time to pick up the pieces.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 23, 2017, 04:39:10 pm
Maybe we are taking a bit of a detour from the topic of this thread and maybe we aren't, but I am all for a free market of ideas so I'll add in my two cents to further this convo.

https://youtu.be/Ag2Khr0op4c

Merely as an offering to the pool. I am neither confirming nor denying my beliefs on the subject matter  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on March 24, 2017, 01:08:08 am

The concept of an American race and people has been destroyed by the sickness of multiculturalism - the idea that you can 'be here,' but not 'be us.'  We do not identify as 'Americans' first, but Black, White, Gay, Straight, Rich, Poor, Immigrant, Native born, etc.  Those are what we tend to think of first, even the best of us.  That is why it would take generations of a strong, pro-America government to turn things around enough.  And that just isn't going to happen.  I guess the best thing I am hoping for in the next eight years is for the older, liberal SCOTUS judges to all die off, allowing our side to stack the court full of conservatives for a generation.  It will not solve anything, but might make things a bit less unpleasant for 'our side.'  Perhaps make the crash of our civilization a 'glide,' not a 'tailspin.'

So what to do?  Nothing we can do, so don't fret about it.  What will come will come.  The best I can say is use these next four (hopefully eight) years to get ourselves ready.  Stock up, get out of debt... be prepared to ride out some unpleasantness.  If you live around lots of people, make strategic connections now, with people who are like you - Politically, spiritually, racially, and most of all Blood Relatives.  Decide who your people are, and associate more with them. 


I couldn't agree with you more.   
Multicultural empires just don't last because the people stop seeing themselves as members of that empire, but as members of their own special interest group first.    As individuals they view anyone not the same as "them" in the old us vs them equation.  In their minds they make outsiders of their own countrymen and drive wedges into the foundations of their own society and civilization.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 24, 2017, 01:28:03 am
Correct.  If you don't have an allegiance to your country you are not really a part of it. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 25, 2017, 09:59:34 am
https://youtu.be/VzsXqCzRsoQ
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 26, 2017, 12:48:20 am
Exactly correct.  Social Justice Tribunal = kangaroo court. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 26, 2017, 10:13:33 am
Continuing along the same lane of social justice invading the legal system, I've discovered a new channel.

Let's take it for a spin:

https://youtu.be/dTmsUa2mzJU

https://youtu.be/aib6z7t-WtE
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 26, 2017, 12:24:33 pm
I like it.  She's right on target in that uniquely Canadian, matter-of-fact tone that I simply cannot duplicate.   :cool   Did you notice that she also echoed my sentiment about tribunals amounting to a "kangaroo court"?   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 26, 2017, 12:48:32 pm
I like it.  She's right on target in that uniquely Canadian, matter-of-fact tone that I simply cannot duplicate.   :cool   Did you notice that she also echoed my sentiment about tribunals amounting to a "kangaroo court"?

I did!

I watched the first video and I liked it enough that I knew I was going to post her material anyways. So I posted the second video without having watched it all the way through, and then when I got to that part, I was like "Aha! Precisely what we were just discussing in the thread!".

 :hmm It's as if this little monstrosity of a thread I've created has some method in it's madness or something  ;). I still can't believe how much it's grown. While only a handful of people have commented on it, it's getting quite a few views.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 26, 2017, 02:43:00 pm
I'd like to think you've tapped into a vein of common sense and if we keep digging maybe there's a mother lode out there.    :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 26, 2017, 06:33:33 pm
Much appreciated, sir :hat .
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 28, 2017, 11:51:31 am
Still exploring Diana Davison.

https://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/women-dont-own-sex/

https://youtu.be/jnRciKzTz4Q


Here is the article posted, if you don't wish to click the link.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 28, 2017, 06:22:47 pm
Well, that was uncommonly clear-headed.    :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 29, 2017, 05:26:56 pm
I've actually heard this theory before, but never in such depth.

https://youtu.be/_kDYffZnzVY
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on March 29, 2017, 11:28:40 pm
Took her a while to get to the point but I appreciate the supporting documentation. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on March 30, 2017, 08:49:46 am
A quote from near the end of the last video, which nicely summarizes this thread:

Quote
Just because a woman feels that she was raped, doesn't mean it actually happened.  It means the accused was not aware of her mental instability, and wasn't able to properly cater to it.  That's not a crime, it's just a fact that the dude didn't have a degree in psychology.

I think this is golden advice for understanding any form of female logic or behavior. :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on March 31, 2017, 09:44:08 pm
I noticed that I haven't posted today's daily video for my thread.

No worries, because I attended a seminar on campus today that was literally nothing but social justice indoctrination. It took up my day from morning until well into the afternoon and was... Sigh... Mandatory.

We had our very own transgender speaker come talk with us during lunch and they seemed like a nice individual with an interesting history of being both a law officer and a Vietnam era vet. Really the only thing that was out of place was their denial of human biology, the rest seemed pretty red blooded American.

Thank goodness they let us choose different panels to attend, because I wanted to avoid the feminist one like the plague.

Here were some of the panel descriptions straight out of the flyer. I'm going to respectfully retain my opinion, but what do y'all think?

Teaching with a purpose: feminist and queer pedagogy.

this interactive session will provide an overview of feminist and queer pedagogy and will offer practical tips for employing feminist/queer teaching techniques to a diverse group. the consensus of the scholarship on reaching and learning is that a student centered "active learning"  classroom leads to more engagement and better learning. feminist and queer pedagogy focuses on dismantling power structures in the classroom, thereby creating more student focused and democratic learning spaces. One stereotype of these pedagogies is that they focus on "emotion" rather than intellect; but good feminist/queer pedagogy is academically rigorous. They place greater emphasis on student responsibility for in depth learning. this workshop would be beneficial to educators wanting to know more about these pedagogical approaches, or for student leaders and others who are looking for ways to communicate with a teach groups of learners in a democratic fashion.


Gender vs sexuality: Myths debunked

In today's society gender vs sexuality is often confused and misconstrued. Today out goal is to highlight the significant differences between these two top;ics and how they coincide. Along wiht open dialogue, a powerpoint presentation, several varying exercises, a portion of the presentation will be open to Q & A.



Black & Blue: Race & Police in America


Arguably one of the most important and controversial issues in America today is the role of race in the criminal justice system. This workshop will take participants through a basic survey of police in America, form the colonial slave patrols to the era "second slavery" in the late 19th/ early 20th centuries to mass incarceration today. Along the way, participants will confront their own biases and notions of race and "justice". Dr._____ will be accompanied by students from their class who are doing their own research on this topic.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on March 31, 2017, 11:44:55 pm
I keep saying it, the US needs to be invaded or something, to put these 'issues' into the proper perspective.  Until then, we will just keep going down this drain.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on March 31, 2017, 11:52:27 pm
I keep saying it, the US needs to be invaded or something.

You know, you really need to be careful what you wish for.  :neener

Seriously though, you might be right.  It definitely would separate the wheat from the chaff.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on April 01, 2017, 12:17:57 am
You know, you really need to be careful what you wish for.  :neener

Seriously though, you might be right.  It definitely would separate the wheat from the chaff.
I know that.  I realize it would be bad.  But I feel it is going to be necessary.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on April 01, 2017, 01:24:21 am
I keep saying it, the US needs to be invaded or something, to put these 'issues' into the proper perspective.  Until then, we will just keep going down this drain.
We were invaded, back in the 30's, 40's, and 50's and this is the result.  Senator Joe and friends screwed up by using the wrong techniques to counter the invasion with the result that the invaders took root, built a figurative beachhead, and brought more reinforcements in over the last 70-80 years.

What we need is to grow a damn backbone and some thicker skin and simply refuse to accommodate their BS.

That and substitute napalm for our pepper spray.  >:D
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 01, 2017, 06:10:28 pm
https://youtu.be/lkmzdiJXwaA
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 03, 2017, 07:04:37 pm
https://youtu.be/rMEPlcYDn3s

Why can't all feminists be like Christina Hoff Sommers?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 04, 2017, 02:07:52 am
I noticed that I haven't posted today's daily video for my thread.

No worries, because I attended a seminar on campus today that was literally nothing but social justice indoctrination. It took up my day from morning until well into the afternoon and was... Sigh... Mandatory.

We had our very own transgender speaker come talk with us during lunch and they seemed like a nice individual with an interesting history of being both a law officer and a Vietnam era vet. Really the only thing that was out of place was their denial of human biology, the rest seemed pretty red blooded American.

Thank goodness they let us choose different panels to attend, because I wanted to avoid the feminist one like the plague.

Here were some of the panel descriptions straight out of the flyer. I'm going to respectfully retain my opinion, but what do y'all think?

Teaching with a purpose: feminist and queer pedagogy.

this interactive session will provide an overview of feminist and queer pedagogy and will offer practical tips for employing feminist/queer teaching techniques to a diverse group. the consensus of the scholarship on reaching and learning is that a student centered "active learning"  classroom leads to more engagement and better learning. feminist and queer pedagogy focuses on dismantling power structures in the classroom, thereby creating more student focused and democratic learning spaces. One stereotype of these pedagogies is that they focus on "emotion" rather than intellect; but good feminist/queer pedagogy is academically rigorous. They place greater emphasis on student responsibility for in depth learning. this workshop would be beneficial to educators wanting to know more about these pedagogical approaches, or for student leaders and others who are looking for ways to communicate with a teach groups of learners in a democratic fashion.


Gender vs sexuality: Myths debunked

In today's society gender vs sexuality is often confused and misconstrued. Today out goal is to highlight the significant differences between these two top;ics and how they coincide. Along wiht open dialogue, a powerpoint presentation, several varying exercises, a portion of the presentation will be open to Q & A.



Black & Blue: Race & Police in America


Arguably one of the most important and controversial issues in America today is the role of race in the criminal justice system. This workshop will take participants through a basic survey of police in America, form the colonial slave patrols to the era "second slavery" in the late 19th/ early 20th centuries to mass incarceration today. Along the way, participants will confront their own biases and notions of race and "justice". Dr._____ will be accompanied by students from their class who are doing their own research on this topic.
Ummm  .  .  .  It would have to be a fasting day for me to be able to sit through any of that without the possibility acute indigestion. 

The sheer lack of self-awareness of the people who accept and champion this nonsense is astounding.  They remind me of people with a severe immune system disorder that requires them to exist only within the confines of a rigidly climate controlled bubble in order to survive.    :facepalm     If the philosophical underpinnings of your worldview are in conflict with the world as it currently exists perhaps the problem is not the world's but your own.   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 04, 2017, 02:11:19 am
https://youtu.be/lkmzdiJXwaA

I find most libertarians to be reasonable people regardless of other considerations and Dr. Peterson was brilliant - again. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 04, 2017, 02:29:23 am
https://youtu.be/rMEPlcYDn3s

Why can't all feminists be like Christina Hoff Sommers?
Nothing to refute there except what the callers said.   :coffee    I agree that she is uncommonly clear headed and analytical in her approach to the subject.   I don't know if it is covered in her book but the most heinous crime committed against young boys - especially by those whom they are taught to trust - is the misdiagnosis of healthy male behavior as ADD/ADHD .   The number of young boys put into a drug induced stupor by administering Ritalin and other behavior modifying drugs is staggering.  I think it is a significant reason for the alarming statistics Ms. Hoff Sommers cites in the interview. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 04, 2017, 08:34:40 am
https://youtu.be/DLhg1R1M4_0

Popped up in my YouTube feed. This is sad, I thought Australia was supposed to be more free than the UK and Europe.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 04, 2017, 11:23:43 pm
Perhaps marginally more so but its not any place I'd care to go these days - especially the larger cities.   :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 06, 2017, 12:09:37 pm
Jordan B Peterson's education on gender studies in society is one class I would not mind attending.

https://youtu.be/NV2yvI4Id9Q
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 07, 2017, 01:40:05 am
Agreed.  I find it interesting to listen to him just throw out an offhand comment that would be worthy of a doctoral dissertation and move on as though it were common knowledge. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 07, 2017, 08:25:52 am
1:10:50

Go to that mark and just listen to the quote.

https://youtu.be/JDvj6DQd93o
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 07, 2017, 09:25:00 am
https://youtu.be/6b0nKVdGDEM

Trying to redeem my previous clip from Australia  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 07, 2017, 09:38:47 am
https://youtu.be/GPnUOcsjqgA

https://youtu.be/N-o2nnDF_So

Not sure if this second one belongs here, but I find it interesting when Jordan Peterson compares philosophical and past gender relations to how they are today. It's interesting how post modernism and SJW's really messed with our western societal system and you can still see the effects of that taking place.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 08, 2017, 12:58:36 am
About the quote beginning at 1:10:50 .  .  .    :scrutiny  .  .  .   WTAF ? 

Re:  Dr Albrechtsen's commentary -  valid criticism and good advice. 

The other two are simply Dr. Peterson at full stride.  I think the reason he is so fiercely attacked is simply because he is so effective at explaining the obvious flaws in what passes for "knowledge" at the collegiate level.  His point about post-modernism is exactly correct though - it rejects the entire notion of any sort of logical basis for arriving at a conclusion in favor of a primary grievance from which all else derives. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 10, 2017, 03:21:31 pm
https://youtu.be/qSKarwUhxiI

So if SJW's are influencing academia, politics, and society, is it possible for them to be infecting police work as well?

LEO's on the forum, what have y'all seen?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 10, 2017, 03:37:53 pm
https://youtu.be/jd5x2wKYILo

Social sciences!
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 10, 2017, 06:47:42 pm
https://youtu.be/edz7-nWscrQ

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 11, 2017, 01:56:31 am
Good stuff.   :thumbup1 

re:  Good Cops, John Adams, defending British soldiers charged with murder in The Boston Massacre observed,  "It is more important that innocence should be protected than it is that guilt be punished; for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world, that all of them cannot be punished .  .  .  when innocence itself, is brought to the bar and condemned, especially to die, the subject will exclaim, ' it is immaterial to me whether I behave well or ill for virtue itself is no security' .  And if such a sentiment as this were to take hold in the mind of the subject that would be the end of all security whatsoever.".   

I suppose that the natural question might be, better for whom?  Still, as bad as an actual sexual assault is for the victim a person falsely accused of such a crime suffers a very similar fate.   An assault on one's innocence of wrongdoing is just as much of an assault as any other - more so if you count the apparatus of the state as a willing and enthusiastic accomplice. 

re: Sociology  -  yup, pretty much.   :facepalm

re:  the Peterson interview, the man's mastery of the subject is seamless.  If there is a chink in that armor somewhere I have yet to see it. 

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 12, 2017, 10:38:23 pm
https://youtu.be/pqcS2e4KqW4
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 13, 2017, 12:32:11 am
Fascinating.  ( cocks a single eyebrow and does best impression of Leonard Nimoy as Mr. Spock .  .  .   :cool )
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 14, 2017, 02:32:09 pm
https://youtu.be/34otc9VSFNE

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on April 14, 2017, 03:34:08 pm
Actually there is an explanation for the Kardashians. Of sorts anyway.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq0FxwAlP_c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq0FxwAlP_c)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 15, 2017, 09:22:15 am
https://youtu.be/ih-CHIiclwk

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 15, 2017, 05:14:48 pm
Uh .  .  .  yeah, I don't really get the whole  " Kardashian / Jenner " thing.    :scrutiny    I'm actually surprised that Ben Shapiro even noticed something as banal as a Pepsi commercial and felt the need to comment on it. 

Dr. Peterson is right on point again.  Post modernism is the philosophical equivalent of duct tape.   Its easy to understand, flexible enough for a wide range of applications and is a good temporary solution.    :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 15, 2017, 06:41:08 pm
I've been hearing a lot of people talk about the Pepsi ad for some reason. Even in places that are completely unpolitical. Such as today, for instance, on Markiplier. Even if just briefly.

https://youtu.be/lhJKHbTLBts
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on April 19, 2017, 12:29:47 pm
https://youtu.be/qSKarwUhxiI

So if SJW's are influencing academia, politics, and society, is it possible for them to be infecting police work as well?

LEO's on the forum, what have y'all seen?

Oh yeah. There are quite a few liberal police chiefs and in a liberal paradise like Asheville, it's a given. The sheriff there however is not impressed with SJW's and it's business as usual.

Here where I'm at it's not too bad. The worst I've seen here is we were told to stop referring to certain male officers as twats, c___s and manginas. My best bud asked "So what do we call those whiny lil' b____es then?"

I think our boss cries a lot in his office with the lights out.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 20, 2017, 01:06:23 am
 :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 21, 2017, 08:17:00 pm
https://youtu.be/wc8A-S6uIDM

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Mikee5star on April 21, 2017, 09:33:01 pm
Sarah Hoyt wrote a great explanation of this madness today over at according to Hoyt.  I cannot explain it as good as she does.  No link. Just do search and enjoy. 

https://accordingtohoyt.com/2017/04/20/such-the-womb/

Okay, okay, here is a link due to the fact the post was yesterday not today's.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 22, 2017, 01:18:26 am
Yup.  She's good.   :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 22, 2017, 09:58:59 am
I'm torn on this one, because I really like D.D.

She's standing up for MGTOW here. My only argument is that while there are some manipulative women out there, I've also seen manipulative men. Which gender is the biggest offender is not for me to decide.

https://youtu.be/Z5jG13d7ViM
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 22, 2017, 03:02:15 pm
Yeah  .  .  .  she started to wander of in the weeds about the three minute mark and basically rambled around in search of a coherent thought for the next three or four minutes.  I think some of her points are valid but this needs work.   I never even heard of MRM or MGTOW until maybe a year ago and I'd be willing to bet most other people haven't heard of them even today.  Clearly I don't attach the same cultural significance to this stuff as DD does or the MGTOW's either.  She makes some pretty lame assumptions based on a limited knowledge of the subject matter ( biology in particular  :facepalm ) and that tends to undermine her arguments IMO. 

Manipulative behavior only works to the degree that the one being manipulated allows it regardless of gender considerations. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 22, 2017, 03:14:42 pm
Yeah  .  .  .  she started to wander of in the weeds about the three minute mark and basically rambled around in search of a coherent thought for the next three or four minutes.  I think some of her points are valid but this needs work.   I never even heard of MRM or MGTOW until maybe a year ago and I'd be willing to bet most other people haven't heard of them even today.  Clearly I don't attach the same cultural significance to this stuff as DD does or the MGTOW's either.  She makes some pretty lame assumptions based on a limited knowledge of the subject matter ( biology in particular  :facepalm ) and that tends to undermine her arguments IMO. 

Manipulative behavior only works to the degree that the one being manipulated allows it regardless of gender considerations.

I feel this better explains why she feels the way she does.

One again, I'm kind of torn on it. Not all women are like this, but when she described the differences in how little girls play and how young women act, that was kind of a  :o moment for me. I've seen that before.

Regardless of differing opinions on this one subject, I still find her to be well spoken and reasoned.

https://youtu.be/mrwimK2vfeM
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 22, 2017, 03:58:45 pm
Well spoken perhaps - well reasoned is a bit of a crap shoot.  She is fond of stating things in absolute terms that just have no basis in reality. 
ie:  " . . . all women . . . "  .  .  . uh, no - not ALL women.   :facepalm   She is also handicapped by being unable to see how small a world she actually inhabits.  Maybe that is because of her laser like focus but I tend to think she suffers much the same malady as many others who inhabit it.  She is essentially agnostic or even atheistic,  she is almost entirely focused in and on an urban experience and her grasp of history is tenuous at best.  Urbanites tend to be a fairly inbred group in terms of philosophy and thought patterns and generally unaware of how they appear to those not of their group.  While I agree that some of her points are valid they are not necessarily for the reasons she thinks, IMO.   

I would like her videos better if she were better able to separate facts from opinions.  I understand that she is not a journalist or a news reporter per se but all the best stories have at least a grain of truth in them. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 22, 2017, 04:35:26 pm
We agree on the your statement regarding absolutes  :cool.

I'm not sure what religion she is.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 22, 2017, 04:42:38 pm
I'd call it pretty close to secular humanist.  Clearly she has either never heard of existentialism or puts no stock in it as a philosophical point of view.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 23, 2017, 10:08:29 am
https://youtu.be/Vgqqi88Z3GA
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 23, 2017, 04:23:14 pm
Seriously, Harvard?    :facepalm     
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 27, 2017, 11:03:11 am
https://youtu.be/-00hRdaVH6A

Rage against the storm hasn't made an appearance here in a while. She gives a perspective of Sweden and immigration, that I have yet to see on the evening news here in America.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Gabrielus on April 27, 2017, 02:52:14 pm
Seriously, Harvard?    :facepalm   

If Yale has this

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/09/meet-the-privileged-yale-student-who-shrieked-at-her-professor/

Then Harvard isn't too far behind.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 27, 2017, 10:23:21 pm
https://youtu.be/2tvtCkjmwTA
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 28, 2017, 09:27:00 am
https://youtu.be/TxOzlxVKBMM
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on April 28, 2017, 10:51:34 pm
Interesting compendium.  I think Rage is a little easier to take than most because,  A) She has a sense of humor and irony.  B)  Brevity is the soul of wit. (Shakespeare, I believe .  .  .) 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on April 28, 2017, 11:27:39 pm
Interesting compendium.  I think Rage is a little easier to take than most because,  A) She has a sense of humor and irony.  B)  Brevity is the soul of wit. (Shakespeare, I believe .  .  .)

Agreed. I need to go through more of her stuff to put up here. She has a solid channel and it really isn't that old. It could do with more exposure. I remember seeing her channel when it was first born, but I don't remember who pointed me in her direction.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 01, 2017, 09:54:11 am
https://youtu.be/8T3qoBjzRMs

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 02, 2017, 10:34:46 am
https://youtu.be/Y8KqfJkECYA

More racial division in the name of equality.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 02, 2017, 10:56:51 pm
I think I may have pointed this out before but the left generally and SJW's and latter day feminists in particular have got to be the least self-aware people on the planet including many of those in a persistent vegetative state.  How else can you come up with something that is so completely farcical and still expect to be taken with any seriousness?    :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 03, 2017, 10:09:39 am
https://youtu.be/nMf4WQximtA

Bill Nye suggesting westerners stop having children and in this episode we get a free dance  :shocked.

I'm going to label this one NSFW regarding the dance. Undoomed and Bearing's language might be ok for children, but this one hits my limit  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 03, 2017, 10:40:02 am
https://youtu.be/eS36zOikcwY

How can Huff Po actually make stuff like this in good conscience? It's pretty distasteful.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: wyatt on May 03, 2017, 07:33:44 pm
Isn't Bill Nye a self admitted Communist? When did that become okay?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 03, 2017, 07:56:45 pm
https://youtu.be/3mzYKWDx6YI
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 03, 2017, 10:25:28 pm
Isn't Bill Nye a self admitted Communist? When did that become okay?
  Probably about the same time as being feminist, 'inclusive,' or LGBTSMHWTF became mainstream.  Communism is mild in comparison. :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 05, 2017, 02:51:51 am
Actually, no - it isn't.  Communism and more specifically Marxism is the framework on which all those other things hang like ribbons on some sort of idealogical maypole.   The point that is conveniently not ever mentioned is the death toll that can be laid at the feet of every communist dictator or regime of the twentieth century.    They make the Nazis look like rank amateurs by comparison. 

And, for the record, that is the first time I've ever seen "Huff Po" and "good conscience" used in the same sentence.     :hmm

And thanks for the warning about the "dance".    :facepalm    It was like hearing the screeching of brakes and tires on the pavement just before the massive crash - you knew what was coming but you looked anyway.   :banghead
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on May 05, 2017, 03:53:26 am
Actually, no - it isn't.  Communism and more specifically Marxism is the framework on which all those other things hang like ribbons on some sort of ideological maypole.   The point that is conveniently not ever mentioned is the death toll that can be laid at the feet of every communist dictator or regime of the twentieth century.    They make the Nazis look like rank amateurs by comparison. 

Not disputing a single jot or tittle, Steve.  But I can't see that there's even a bit of daylight between "Communist" or "Nazi."  As, to my mind, they're two sides of the same coin.  Much the same way Sunni and Shiite, are two sides of the radical islamist coin.

One detail that seems to be forgotten in any discussion of the two, is that their full nom de guerre, is "The Nazi Socialist Party."

In any case it all boils down to those that wish to be in control, in opposition to those that have no desire to be controlled.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: TommyGunn on May 05, 2017, 11:48:42 am
Not disputing a single jot or tittle, Steve.  But I can't see that there's even a bit of daylight between "Communist" or "Nazi."  As, to my mind, they're two sides of the same coin.  Much the same way Sunni and Shiite, are two sides of the radical islamist coin.

One detail that seems to be forgotten in any discussion of the two, is that their full nom de guerre, is "The Nazi Socialist Party."  "National Socialist German Workers' Party."
In any case it all boils down to those that wish to be in control, in opposition to those that have no desire to be controlled.

FTFY.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on May 05, 2017, 12:00:45 pm
What ever.  So I didn't have the same history books you had.  Doesn't change anything, still two sides of the same coin.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 05, 2017, 12:43:47 pm
What ever.  So I didn't have the same history books you had.  Doesn't change anything, still two sides of the same coin.
You miss the point.  If you bother to give something's full name, and refer back to it to support your point, make damned sure you have your facts right, and that they actually support that point.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on May 05, 2017, 12:57:30 pm
I grew up in Upstate New York, went to school and studied WW2 some 40 years ago, even then "Outcome Based Education" was a thing.  They were sadly lacking in specific detail.  My memory of that period is not as clear as your's might be of a comparable period in your life.  I remember something different, and I really am not interested in picking nits.  Nor am I inclined to revisit the subject in that minute of detail. 

My point remains as previously stated:  Two sides, Same friggin' coin.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 05, 2017, 02:15:41 pm
My point remains as previously stated:  Two sides, Same friggin' coin.
If by that you mean 'populist form of government that seeks to gain and maintain power,' then sure.  But that is a very broad 'coin' to be comparing.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on May 05, 2017, 02:20:01 pm
 :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 05, 2017, 02:38:07 pm
https://youtu.be/ef6rDlRQtio

This is an ad that is receiving a bunch of hate.

What do you think? Feminist propaganda or just a commercial? I'm not really able to get outraged over this. In today's society, I'm happy that we can still depict someone physically standing up to a bully (regardless of gender) and not be labeled as "violent" or "old fashioned".
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 05, 2017, 03:00:02 pm
:facepalm
Don't even.  You made a claim that Nazi and Communist are 'two sides of the same coin,' offering no further explanation, as if it should be obvious.  It is not.  If you want to offer a comparative argument, then maybe I will take the idea seriously.  Until then, it's just your good word saying so.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on May 05, 2017, 03:03:08 pm
Don't even.  You made a claim that Nazi and Communist are 'two sides of the same coin,' offering no further explanation, as if it should be obvious.  It is not.  If you want to offer a comparative argument, then maybe I will take the idea seriously.  Until then, it's just your good word saying so.

Actually I did, I said,

In any case it all boils down to those that wish to be in control, in opposition to those that have no desire to be controlled.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 05, 2017, 03:11:06 pm
I think this little thing is called a Nolan grid?

Freeman is correct that they fall into the same category, and it is all about authoritarian vs the subjects/controlled/populace, etc.

(http://www.debate.org/photos/albums/1/3/2379/32577-2379-8ca4a-a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 05, 2017, 04:27:39 pm
Actually I did, I said,

Yes you did.  But that does nothing more than describe 99% of all governments throughout history.  That is not really a 'two sides to the same coin' analogy.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 05, 2017, 04:30:15 pm
I think this little thing is called a Nolan grid?

Freeman is correct that they fall into the same category, and it is all about authoritarian vs the subjects/controlled/populace, etc.
Individuals, peoples, and nations all need structure and guidance in order to realize their potential.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on May 05, 2017, 04:30:52 pm
Good grief man!  I'm talking specifically about communism and Naziism!  Quit being so damned obtuse.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 05, 2017, 04:34:15 pm
Good grief man!  I'm talking specifically about communism and Naziism!  Quit being so damned obtuse.
I am not being any more difficult than you are being over simplistic.  Communism and Nazism are only similar in the same way that each of them is similar to any other statist government.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: wyatt on May 05, 2017, 04:52:20 pm
I found this to be helpful.


https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4667-nazis-communists-ideological-bedfellows
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on May 05, 2017, 04:57:07 pm
I made a subjective observation.

But I can't see that there's even a bit of daylight between "Communist" or "Nazi."  As, to my mind, they're two sides of the same coin.

There is nothing even remotely "simplistic" about the fact that both authoritarian philosophies are rooted in Marxism, which is in and of itself an authoritarian philosophy.  Nevermind the fact that both are wont to choose scapegoats to blame for the ills of their societies.  Usually scapegoats that fall into, in their estimation, the "deplorables" category.  Somewhere along the lines of race, sexual proclivities, or even "you don't think like we do, so shut up."
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 05, 2017, 05:40:59 pm
I found this to be helpful.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4667-nazis-communists-ideological-bedfellows
That was well written.  Whether I believe it all or not... I'm not sure.  Because unless I were a scholar of Nazi German law, I still just have to take his word that he is speaking truth...  But I will say, the article was able to clearly articulate how and why the two political systems were similar - something that this discussion was sorely lacking.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: RetroGrouch on May 05, 2017, 08:42:14 pm
My son did a "contrast and compare" paper in school on the governments involved in WWII.  It was illuminating that the Axis powers were all essentially the same - Nazis in Germany, Fascists in Italy and the Japanese government (that last one surprised me until I read the analysis).  The Communists were functionally the same as the Axis countries.  The Allies were mostly Democratic Parliamentary systems, followed in number by Monarchies and, of course, the United States, which was a unique at the time as a Representative Republic.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 06, 2017, 09:07:02 am
https://youtu.be/oxHIftZVfrQ

Posting, but not saying I agree 100% with it.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 06, 2017, 10:18:03 am
https://youtu.be/gaO3THnOHhA

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 06, 2017, 11:28:20 am
Posting, but not saying I agree 100% with it.
Uh, yeah...  I will.  The lady is spot on.  The only thing I cant say I *know* for certain are her statements that 'women feel this way.'  Because I am not a woman.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 06, 2017, 11:48:02 am
I don't agree with pick up culture, necessarily, but I also don't believe in the one and done perfect monogamous life partner philosophy (stating to have sex with one and only one person in your life... Ever. Or else. I still think marriage is a worthy pursuit). I think both are two extremes, one says life is a buffet and there are no consequences and the other says that there is no other way but to have one partner or else there will be dire consequences. That is just too black and white for me.

I've had friends who have tried both life styles and neither philosophy has played out like the welcome brochure said it would  :coffee.

Regarding women getting more emotionally/psychologically damaged than men from intimate relationships? There are some interesting psychological studies stating the opposite.

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 06, 2017, 12:04:00 pm
I think both are two extremes, one says life is a buffet and there are no consequences and the other says that there is no other way but to have one partner or else there will be dire consequences.
  By itself, practicing celibacy does not make a person 'good,' nor does whoring around make a person 'bad.'  Still, I feel that one is an ideal scenario, and the other is the abandonment of discretion in the pursuit of pleasure.  Pleasure is a vice, and too much, yes, is bad.

Regarding women getting more emotionally/psychologically damaged than men from intimate relationships? There are some interesting psychological studies stating the opposite.
Did you see that in the same video that I watched?  Because I watched the whole thing, and I did not.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 06, 2017, 12:34:28 pm
  By itself, practicing celibacy does not make a person 'good,' nor does whoring around make a person 'bad.'  Still, I feel that one is an ideal scenario, and the other is the abandonment of discretion in the pursuit of pleasure.  Pleasure is a vice, and too much, yes, is bad.


We can agree on this.

Did you see that in the same video that I watched?  Because I watched the whole thing, and I did not.

 :scrutiny Sigh. I had to rewatch it just to get the time marker that I needed. 6:50 "there are heaps of studies about women and promiscuity...Sex has serious psychological impacts on women that will change your relationships forever. Statistically every man a woman sleeps with that is past one, will increase her chances of her marriage ending in divorce. A woman with one previous sexual partner is an equivalence divorce risk with a man who has nineteen. Promiscuity has devastating impacts on women's ability to pair a bond and form lasting, stable relationships which she needs for her happiness."

That sounds like she is talking about psychological/emotional damage to me regarding women and relationships. As stated previously, despite what she says, I have seen other studies claiming the opposite. There have been claims that men hold more psychological scars when it comes to relationships after previously failed ones. I'm not saying which side I agree with regarding the topic, I am merely pointing out that it is a controversial one with multiple sides claiming very different things and both are backed up by studies.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on May 06, 2017, 02:09:34 pm


We can agree on this.

 :scrutiny Sigh. I had to rewatch it just to get the time marker that I needed. 6:50 "there are heaps of studies about women and promiscuity...Sex has serious psychological impacts on women that will change your relationships forever. Statistically every man a woman sleeps with that is past one, will increase her chances of her marriage ending in divorce. A woman with one previous sexual partner is an equivalence divorce risk with a man who has nineteen. Promiscuity has devastating impacts on women's ability to pair a bond and form lasting, stable relationships which she needs for her happiness."

That sounds like she is talking about psychological/emotional damage to me regarding women and relationships. As stated previously, despite what she says, I have seen other studies claiming the opposite. There have been claims that men hold more psychological scars when it comes to relationships after previously failed ones. I'm not saying which side I agree with regarding the topic, I am merely pointing out that it is a controversial one with multiple sides claiming very different things and both are backed up by studies.

It would make evolutionary sense for men to have a harder impact from failed relationships. IF the male makes the decision to be in a relationship. He has basically chosen to give up the mass reproduction route to invest time and effort into less offspring. So a failed relationship has cost the man a considerable amount of wasted time. All the 'cheap' breeding opportunities he passed up while in the relationship are essentially evolutionary currency thrown away. All the effort put in to achieve breeding ability with the female is basically wasted for nothing.

The female always has evolutionary currency as long as the baby making equipment still works. She may not have the pick of males as she did at a better time, but she still has equity so to speak.

In evolutionary terms the male must make a decision for reproductive strategy. Where the female is stuck with no choice but substantial investment into reproduction. So the male brain likely developed to suffer severe emotional pain from failed relationships so he chooses wisely and works hard to maintain the relationship.     
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 06, 2017, 02:12:48 pm
 :hmm

Interesting way to put it, Plebian.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on May 06, 2017, 02:32:30 pm
:hmm

Interesting way to put it, Plebian.

Notice I used relationship and not sex. It would make sense for the male brain to be wired to view relationship and sex as wholly different things. Sex is simply a breeding opportunity. Where a relationship is time investment into child rearing even if no child is present at the time.

If you are investing no time into child rearing. (Sex with no relationship) Then invest no emotional stock into the possible child as he/she has a lower chance to carry your genes on to new generations. (Lots of children/low investment into each)

If you are investing time into child rearing. (relationship) Then invest huge emotional stock into the possible child as he/she has a higher chance to carry your genes on to new generations. (Few children/TONS of investment into each)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 06, 2017, 03:03:45 pm
I believe both genders can do this, as well. I have always been very cynical towards the theory that women place more stock in sex than men, because I personally know multiple women with very flippant attitudes about it.

It's always been interesting for me in Texas, to discuss in Men's group (church) about how a young Christian male should always be very cautious about sex in dating. Not only should he wait until marriage, but he could risk disrespecting her or causing severe permanent harm.

And then when I am on campus, to see young women treating sex with as much seriousness as brushing their teeth. Whether they are inside a relationship or at the bar.

I love the south, but I find the disparity between these two situations to be amusing. People are interesting.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 06, 2017, 03:53:26 pm
:scrutiny Sigh. I had to rewatch it just to get the time marker that I needed. 6:50 "there are heaps of studies about women and promiscuity...Sex has serious psychological impacts on women that will change your relationships forever. Statistically every man a woman sleeps with that is past one, will increase her chances of her marriage ending in divorce. A woman with one previous sexual partner is an equivalence divorce risk with a man who has nineteen. Promiscuity has devastating impacts on women's ability to pair a bond and form lasting, stable relationships which she needs for her happiness."
Okay, I did hear that and I remembered it.

That sounds like she is talking about psychological/emotional damage to me regarding women and relationships.
Aaand, that is why the two and two didn't connect.  I did not perceive that as 'damage,' though I suppose that is just what it is.  Sorry.  :P

To the rest, I have to agree with Plebian's analysis.  In the end, what truly does drive human behavior is the same as drives every other species under the sun: The attempt to pass on one's genetics to the next generation.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 06, 2017, 03:58:08 pm
And then when I am on campus, to see young women treating sex with as much seriousness as brushing their teeth. Whether they are inside a relationship or at the bar.
Well think about it...  Why would a woman take sex seriously?  Two reasons, societal pressure and permanent consequences. 

Societal pressure has largely evaporated, to the point where no one bats an eye at an unwed mother, and being a whore is celebrated by much of the population. (just read this thread)  And the permanent consequences?  Any adult woman in this country can easily procure a pregnancy termination.  So it would seem that as opposed to times past, it is now the Man that runs more risk by engaging in unprotected sex.  Whereas before he could always skip town to avoid responsibility/consequences, that is no longer as possibility, and where before the woman was simply stuck with caring for or disposing of the child, she now can choose between keeping the child and making the man pay for it, or simply killing it off before it is born.  And the man has no say in any of this.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 06, 2017, 04:03:03 pm
Okay, I did hear that and I remembered it.
 Aaand, that is why the two and two didn't connect.  I did not perceive that as 'damage,' though I suppose that is just what it is.  Sorry.  :P

That's ok. I guess it can be forgiven this time  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on May 06, 2017, 05:04:46 pm
Okay, I did hear that and I remembered it.
 Aaand, that is why the two and two didn't connect.  I did not perceive that as 'damage,' though I suppose that is just what it is.  Sorry.  :P

To the rest, I have to agree with Plebian's analysis.  In the end, what truly does drive human behavior is the same as drives every other species under the sun: The attempt to pass on one's genetics to the next generation.

Actually Kaso is more on target IMO.
She specified the type of damage women can suffer, "Sex has serious psychological impacts on women that will change your relationships forever. Statistically every man a woman sleeps with that is past one, will increase her chances of her marriage ending in divorce. A woman with one previous sexual partner is an equivalence divorce risk with a man who has nineteen. Promiscuity has devastating impacts on women's ability to pair a bond and form lasting, stable relationships which she needs for her happiness."   
She did NOT state that men suffered no damage from multiple partners, she simply didn't mention what damage they suffer. 

If anyone has more up to date or better in depth knowledge please feel free to correct me on any of the following...it's been a few decades since I went over this stuff, so I might be off by a smidge.
IIRC the two main hormones released during orgasm are oxytocin and dopamine.  Women get slightly more oxytocin than dopamine, men the reverse from what I recall.      Oxytocin amongst other things helps for emotional bonds and feeling of trust, dopamine pleasure.   
One of the problems with having multiple partners is that the strength of the effect oxytocin has diminishes in correlation with how many partners one has had.  In plain terms the chemical reinforcement to the emotional bonds aren't as strong for subsequent partners.     
Seeing as women get more of this hormone it would make sense that the lessening of it's effect would have a more serious impact on them in terms of maintaining a relationship bond than it would on men. 
In turn I suspect the damage done to me would be that of less long term pleasure, ie the more partners they have the faster they grow bored with them.  Or something like that.

Again, this is foggy recollections from decades ago.  If we have someone here with better knowledge I wont feel hurt in the slightest if all of what I have just said has been dis-proven or thrown on the slag heap of academia long ago.

In any case, she didn't say the men got away scot-free and unmarred.  She just didn't discuss what damage they incur.


Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 06, 2017, 05:12:55 pm
Endocrinology is one of my favourite subjects and while I've studied the hormones and their effects, we never really separated the genders in that fashion (as in who produces more of what individual hormone, if both genders produce it. However we did discuss in detail the one's that only men or only women produced) or even added any social context to the hormones :shrug.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on May 06, 2017, 08:31:02 pm
Endocrinology is one of my favourite subjects and while I've studied the hormones and their effects, we never really separated the genders in that fashion (as in who produces more of what individual hormone, if both genders produce it. However we did discuss in detail the one's that only men or only women produced) or even added any social context to the hormones :shrug.

It is sorta informally verboten to engage in 'gender/race study' in the hard sciences on modern campuses. The same can be said for human evolutionary psychology as it relates to genders. Professors and staff will quietly point you in different directions, and if you still do not take the hint. Then the academic world will ignore you into obscurity.

Gad Saad is a good illustration of this. He talks pretty openly about the academic pressures he has felt in researching 'wrong' things. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 06, 2017, 08:36:34 pm
It is sorta informally verboten to engage in 'gender/race study' in the hard sciences on modern campuses. The same can be said for human evolutionary psychology as it relates to genders. Professors and staff will quietly point you in different directions, and if you still do not take the hint. Then the academic world will ignore you into obscurity.

Gad Saad is a good illustration of this. He talks pretty openly about the academic pressures he has felt in researching 'wrong' things.

I'm kind of glad we didn't delve into it. I wanted hard science, not gender studies  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on May 06, 2017, 08:38:49 pm
It is sorta informally verboten to engage in 'gender/race study' in the hard sciences on modern campuses. The same can be said for human evolutionary psychology as it relates to genders. Professors and staff will quietly point you in different directions, and if you still do not take the hint. Then the academic world will ignore you into obscurity.

Gad Saad is a good illustration of this. He talks pretty openly about the academic pressures he has felt in researching 'wrong' things.
Might be that back in the stone age when I heard that material in a lecture the PC movement hadn't clamped down into the sciences just yet. :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on May 06, 2017, 09:50:10 pm
Might be that back in the stone age when I heard that material in a lecture the PC movement hadn't clamped down into the sciences just yet. :hmm

Gad Saad said it really didn't start getting pushed until the 80s, and it reached a fever pitch like now in the mid 90s.

I know in the biology departments I have been in since the 2001 or so. It has really, really been frowned on to even ask questions about racial traits. 'We are all homo sapiens, and races are social constructs.' Is the official mantra. I guess it is just luck that only looking at bone structure we can tell what ethnic group is which almost perfectly. Social constructs must somehow change bone structures on people's skeletons.  :whistle
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 06, 2017, 09:58:56 pm
Now that is something we got into in pathology. We hit gender and race hard in these areas. Whites get cystic fibrosis and blacks get sickle cell anaemia, it is what it is  :shrug.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 07, 2017, 12:59:11 am
Excellent talk by Ms. Straughan.    :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: wyatt on May 07, 2017, 04:12:40 am
Gad Saad said it really didn't start getting pushed until the 80s, and it reached a fever pitch like now in the mid 90s.

I know in the biology departments I have been in since the 2001 or so. It has really, really been frowned on to even ask questions about racial traits. 'We are all homo sapiens, and races are social constructs.' Is the official mantra. I guess it is just luck that only looking at bone structure we can tell what ethnic group is which almost perfectly. Social constructs must somehow change bone structures on people's skeletons.  :whistle

To suggest otherwise is heresy. Now you know how Galileo felt.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 07, 2017, 08:47:01 am
http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2016/07/28/woman-alleges-was-sexually-assaulted-by-wee-wee-toy-in-hibachi-restaurant.html

Water gun prank at a family restaurant or sexual assault? You decide  :facepalm. I watched the video on YouTube and I'm sorry that this woman is from Texas.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 07, 2017, 09:47:46 am
In fairness, the waiter who spayed a patron with water should have been fired.  Beyond that, the woman is being more childish than he ever was toward her.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: wyatt on May 07, 2017, 10:06:17 am
The restaurant's manager is named Johnny Wang.  :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 07, 2017, 10:31:15 am
What ruffles my feathers is that people like her completely trivialise actual sexual assault victims. I think she just wanted a pay day. It's no different than purposely slipping on the floor of an establishment.

Seeing as she is a 'Texan', I think her punishment should be worse than the death penalty. Her punishment should be to ship her north to live in Oklahoma... That'd learn her good  :neener. I personally couldn't think of a worse punishment.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 07, 2017, 10:32:42 am
The restaurant's manager is named Johnny Wang.  :coffee

Two Wang's don't make a right... :hide
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 07, 2017, 01:25:29 pm
https://youtu.be/IeKp05e-e80

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 07, 2017, 10:56:54 pm
And all this time I thought a "white supremacist hand gesture" involved a royal scepter.  At the very least I would think it should require either a handgun or extending only the middle finger.   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 07, 2017, 11:18:33 pm
No, the bigots and racists can't have the middle finger salute. I need that one to communicate with idiots, and I am no racist.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 07, 2017, 11:24:24 pm
Well, completely aside from the fact that you've lumped white supremacists in with racists and bigots, why on earth would you want to communicate with idiots?   :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 07, 2017, 11:35:34 pm
Well, completely aside from the fact that you've lumped white supremacists in with racists and bigots, why on earth would you want to communicate with idiots?   :cool

 :rotfl

 :clap
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 10, 2017, 10:38:43 am
https://youtu.be/5vF83NUTXV8
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 10, 2017, 07:50:24 pm
https://youtu.be/Q2pR7LQBwi8

Everyday feminism is about to be shut down apparently.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 10, 2017, 10:19:11 pm
https://youtu.be/VJMCQ94t98k

Two well reasoned men and anti social justice warriors unite to shoot the breeze and solve the world's problems.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 11, 2017, 01:43:35 am
Bookmarked for later.  I have to work tomorrow and can't spend 2 hours listening to it right now. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 11, 2017, 01:58:07 pm
https://youtu.be/GLbjmIajj9g
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 12, 2017, 12:31:40 am
https://youtu.be/mk6VrGozofs

One of the stranger things I've seen. I went from thinking this woman is a jerk to feeling sorry for her.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 12, 2017, 01:18:53 am
I'm still on board with thinking she's a jerk.  Among other things.    :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 12, 2017, 04:15:24 pm
https://youtu.be/XpVGmi5Sbek

 :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: RetroGrouch on May 12, 2017, 05:17:22 pm
I'm still on board with thinking she's a jerk.  Among other things.    :coffee

The guy in the parking lot was what looked to be 20 yards away.  At the end when she was lying to the other woman about being assaulted, the real reason she got upset with the guy in the parking lot came out.  He was recording her license plate number after she repeated the name and address of the store about a dozen times.

If she wants sympathy, she needs to edit her videos better.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 12, 2017, 10:51:02 pm
https://youtu.be/chz-hqqKq8Y

Undoomed got soo triggered in this video, but it was from buzzfeed, so I understand why.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 14, 2017, 12:13:07 am
https://youtu.be/11UViEiMVak
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 14, 2017, 01:33:27 am
The guy in the parking lot was what looked to be 20 yards away.  At the end when she was lying to the other woman about being assaulted, the real reason she got upset with the guy in the parking lot came out.  He was recording her license plate number after she repeated the name and address of the store about a dozen times.

If she wants sympathy, she needs to edit her videos better.
Or quit being a reactionary jacka&&.    :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: RetroGrouch on May 14, 2017, 04:30:48 am
I don't think she can stop being a reactionary jackass, but she might know someone who can edit video so she doesn't look like one.  If they are REALLY good at editing.  Maybe.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 17, 2017, 02:30:36 pm
https://youtu.be/Xw1lthwHn9U

A random interesting video clip I found. I feel this social phenomenon could also be used to write a doctoral thesis on. Wish I had the whole video for context.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on May 17, 2017, 02:54:08 pm
https://youtu.be/8ABa4RdNPxU (https://youtu.be/8ABa4RdNPxU)

I believe it is this talk MTK20.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 17, 2017, 03:08:03 pm
Thanks, homie. I'll have to look into it when I get a couple hours of free time.

Has anyone heard anything from BLM lately? My sources have been awfully quiet lately. Mainly feminism has been the topic as of late. Nothing special, just SSDD.

https://youtu.be/hRfSTXtHi8I
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on May 17, 2017, 03:27:59 pm
Jordan Peterson has a ton of videos on his channel from his classes, talks and discussions.

He is a bit of a rambling professor, but most professors that are really into their subject tend to be in my personal experience.

He is about to start a series on 'Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories'. Which should be interesting. The feeling I have gotten from him in interviews is he intends for this series to be his 'legacy' to western philosophy and culture.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 18, 2017, 02:03:48 pm
https://youtu.be/kSvDZRwnLo0

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: wyatt on May 18, 2017, 06:10:09 pm
The guy in the sunglasses looks drunk and/or high on drugs.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 19, 2017, 12:37:34 am
He must be multi-tasking.  He's actually a professional douche bag.   :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 21, 2017, 02:04:58 pm
https://youtu.be/8lySVwrcsA4

I wonder how long it'll be before Americans would rather wear a hijab than be called racist or xenophobic? This stuff isn't getting exposed and yet it's spreading. We see what mass immigration from the middle east is doing to Switzerland, UK, Europe, and Australia. Will USA try to fight this? What will become of Russia? They seem to be the only ones not putting up with this. Not to mention, this pretty much BTFO the libertarian ideal of open borders. Libertarian ideals are not something I part with easily, but that one in these current times, does not hold up to scrutiny.

Very interesting topic.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 21, 2017, 02:44:28 pm
Libertarianism is a lot like vegetarianism.  There are a lot of variations of it and none of them work particularly well outside a high functioning first world society like the United States.  If there is anything on the planet less libertarian than Islamic society I am unaware of it.  The very idea of libertarianism is enough to get you declared apostate under sharia law. 

I fear the next "crusade" will make the last one look like an episode of Sesame Street by comparison. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on May 21, 2017, 03:29:14 pm
I fear the next "crusade" will make the last one look like an episode of Sesame Street by comparison.

You are already seeing the underpinnings being laid in Europe now with the new anti-immigration parties gaining power. I do not think there is any realistic way to stop it. The next Hitler, Lenin and Stalin are polishing their butt stomping boots.

Only this time it is not going to be two top tier prize fighters fighting in Europe. It is going to be the top tier prize fighter pummeling the poor sap in the back of the arena that mouthed off far too loud. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 21, 2017, 05:08:30 pm
https://youtu.be/yx1CEsUBYVM

I know Dr. Peterson can sometimes ramble, but the old guy in the 'power chair' was kind of a dick for cutting him off.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 21, 2017, 06:30:41 pm
You are already seeing the underpinnings being laid in Europe now with the new anti-immigration parties gaining power. I do not think there is any realistic way to stop it. The next Hitler, Lenin and Stalin are polishing their butt stomping boots.

Only this time it is not going to be two top tier prize fighters fighting in Europe. It is going to be the top tier prize fighter pummeling the poor sap in the back of the arena that mouthed off far too loud. 
I was thinking more along the lines of "Annex the Sudetenland!"  or the geographical adventurism exhibited during WWII.   Toss in a bit of that with the current brand of terrorist attacks that just hit random targets of ordinary citizens going about their daily business and the response could well spiral out of control.   We didn't firebomb Dresden because "die fuhrer" was there - we did it to punish continued resistance and to demonstrate not only what we could do but the will to do it.  "The Art of War" and "Vom Kriege" are as valid today as when they were written and one can only hope that the next holocaust can be averted because it would surely dwarf anything done in the twentieth century should it occur. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 22, 2017, 01:15:10 am
Trans exclusionary radical feminists. I'm familiar with this group as I've heard some trans people on campus complaining about them.

As technology improves, we are starting to see the development of sex robots. While yes, the market will be flooded with consumers who have libidos that are higher than their social abilities, it will also have consumers with more legitimate reasons. For instance the market has seen a sort of therapeutic effect for the widower/widowed who cannot move on from their loss, yet still want a semblance of company.

While sex toys are empowering to women, they are only a symbol of the perverse patriarchy for men. Double standard, thy name is feminism.

I swear, only feminists would feel threatened by a cold and lifeless inanimate object.

Below is a link to the original article and some commentary by Shoe. Enjoy your daily dose of cancer.

http://archive.is/LpiIo

https://youtu.be/Z2nOsdj8dmc
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 22, 2017, 04:12:07 am
 :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: wyatt on May 22, 2017, 11:13:45 am
I want my 7 minuets and 39 seconds back.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 22, 2017, 11:55:20 am
I want my 7 minuets and 39 seconds back.

Sad thing is, that's the most palatable TERF's get. I think shoe did a very good job in trolling them.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 23, 2017, 12:06:09 am
I was thinking more along the lines of "Annex the Sudetenland!"  or the geographical adventurism exhibited during WWII.   
Aside from Russia and Hungary, no European country has a significant ethnic population living involuntarily inside another country's borders, and thus the grounds for such an annexation.  Hungary's diaspora comes from them being on the losing side of the first world war.  The winners carved up the empire into *roughly* ethnically homogenous areas, but by no means perfect.  (As it happened, the German diaspora in Czechoslovakia and Poland were primary reasons/excuses for the start of WW2)  Large numbers of Ethnic Hungarians were left behind in what is now Slovakia and Romania.  Many of these people still identify themselves as ethnic Hungarians, but I can't see Hungary starting a war to reclaim them.

Russia...  After the breakup of the Soviet Union, large numbers of Ethnic Russians remained in Ukraine and the Baltic countries.  Honestly?  If I were in that position, I would probably prefer for my area to join Russia. :shrug  Yeah, I can see Putin trying to grab back 'his people' at some point.


Only this time it is not going to be two top tier prize fighters fighting in Europe. It is going to be the top tier prize fighter pummeling the poor sap in the back of the arena that mouthed off far too loud. 
If it has to happen...  Then I hope the top dog pummels the rats so hard that they never mouth off or make a nuisance of themselves again.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 23, 2017, 02:08:29 am
Well, I was speaking more of geographical adventurism in the sense of the original crusades but I can see where my example could throw you a bit off the track.   My thought was of the populist appeal of the campaign to "Annex the Sudetenland" rather than any actual historic annexation.  If I were to speculate it would go more along the lines of expulsion of an ethnic minority at this point rather than an annexation.   

Resistance to that is what could trigger an escalating out of control situation, IMO. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: cpaspr on May 23, 2017, 03:37:06 pm
We've strayed somewhat from discussing SJWs, but maybe not really as far as it seems.

The bombing last night in Manchester has many, many people upset, and rightfully so.  If there are a few more such events (may God forbid), countries may start turning more xenophobic and boot out some of the recent imports.  And some of the more settled immigrants.  That will probably cause more violence, which will cause more deportations.

If things go that direction, I believe tolerance for SJWs and their desire for special snowflake status is going to wear thin. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 23, 2017, 10:10:21 pm
I think its already wearing thin for a lot of us .  .  .   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on May 24, 2017, 04:26:33 am
I've been living in a Muslim country for about a decade now. 
While it's officially under secular law rather than Shaira (with the exception of family law) I can tell you that the vast majority of legal issues are decided unofficially in accordance with Shaira.    Non-muslims are at a distinct disadvantage, and I wouldn't feel it too much of a stretch to say treated as "second class citizens" save that unless born a Kuwaiti* you'll never be a citizen of any sort.

Corruption both large and small scale is endemic. 
Work ethic is non-existent.
Tribalism seems to be the real structure here, and tribal ties seem to trump law in practice.

Many of the younger westernized Kuwaiti's I have met over the years wish they could leave all of this behind, including Islam, but their family ties keep them here. 
There's also the 10-20% that would be happy to grind the world under their heel and conquer it in the name of Islam.   
The "moderates" seem ambivalent, but don't seem to have any urge so far to restrain to otherwise rebuke the extremists. 

I can assure you, you do not want any of this coming to your hometown. It is wholly incompatible with modern Western civilization.
I should also mention that if things should turn towards a "Crusades" type war that the culture here doesn't understand or respect  limited responses or peace treaties.   "Limited responses" aren't seen by the population here at large as a sign of tempered judgment or mercy but as incapacity or lack of will,  and 'Peace treaties" are seen as simply buying time to better prepare for another effort to subjugate their opponent.   If there is a next time they need to be hit hard and without mercy, and no apologies made afterwards or offers of a helping hand.    Again, those are seen as signs of weakness and will only encourage a repetition of events a generation or two down the road.   


BTW, If I seem a bit...strident...on a number of issues it's because I've had the experience of living in some less than pleasant locales and have seen where the progression of some trends will lead; it's usually not pretty and the old saws about "all that glitters is not gold" and "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions" are so true they should be catchphrases recited every day upon wakening by every person from the first day they can understand the words to the day they die, then be etched on their headstones to remind their descendants in case it slips their minds.   What we have in the US isn't perfect but it's a far shot better than anything else.


*Or be a woman and marry a Kuwaiti husband.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 24, 2017, 02:56:49 pm
This is some atomic grade trolling. If we cannot beat them with logic, then we will mock and belittle them into obscurity. Nothing pisses SJW's off worse than not being taken seriously.

https://youtu.be/JgPjsBperwM
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 24, 2017, 04:56:43 pm
https://youtu.be/Q6wZAQ9IOQU

https://youtu.be/4FtKTGentt4
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 24, 2017, 05:22:13 pm
https://youtu.be/VrJ5keORfrE

I'm going to be posting a lot more of this channel  :banghead.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 24, 2017, 06:17:52 pm
Why?   :scrutiny    Is it sort of like hitting yourself with a hammer because it feels SOOO  GOOOD when you stop?   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 24, 2017, 06:46:02 pm
Why?   :scrutiny    Is it sort of like hitting yourself with a hammer because it feels SOOO  GOOOD when you stop?

Well, the thread is titled "the worst" isn't it?  :neener
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 24, 2017, 08:21:04 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/10/sweden-car-feminism-driven-mostly-men/
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 24, 2017, 09:58:24 pm
Ok - I'm speechless.    :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 24, 2017, 10:45:26 pm
Ok - I'm speechless.    :facepalm

I swear, us men are just fluffing up everything aren't we?  ;)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 24, 2017, 11:17:17 pm
https://youtu.be/M0qr5cS5FhY

https://youtu.be/0KGJS0IhSoE

https://youtu.be/pvBwWeG4Rpc
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 26, 2017, 12:17:38 am
https://youtu.be/vp8tToFv-bA
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 26, 2017, 01:42:32 am
Interesting.   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 27, 2017, 10:46:29 am
I believe this is one of the clearest and most interesting explanations of the current culture that I've seen.

https://youtu.be/MPojltjv4M0

I'm definitely going to have to buy postmodernism explained, by Stephen Hicks.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 27, 2017, 10:51:23 am
https://youtu.be/M0qr5cS5FhY

https://youtu.be/0KGJS0IhSoE

https://youtu.be/pvBwWeG4Rpc
Do you actually sit through the whole length of each video that you post?  Because I could not force myself to watch any of these three to completion.  I could literally - yes, literally - fell my brain atrophying.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 27, 2017, 01:29:30 pm
Do you actually sit through the whole length of each video that you post?  Because I could not force myself to watch any of these three to completion.  I could literally - yes, literally - fell my brain atrophying.

Yes sir. I sit through everyone until completion unless I otherwise say so in the post. With the last video, I did 'cheat' a little bit, because it was later at night, I only watched a few minutes of it before posting it before bed.

It's a tough job, but someone has to do it  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 28, 2017, 10:40:40 am
https://youtu.be/3LqbqUMXinQ

Quite the woman, right there. We need more like her.

I still have yet to watch "the red pill" documentary.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 28, 2017, 01:25:47 pm
Agreed.  Ms. Jaye's video and the talk by Dr. Peterson at the Manning Center are a powerful one-two punch to the prevailing leftist orthodoxy.

I have not seen "The Red Pill" either - nor have I read Stephen Hicks' book on postmodernism but I think those two oversights are going to be corrected in the near future. 

Thanks again for posting this stuff.  It has become my daily reminder that the world is a real mess.  In the words of legendary radio host Bob Grant, "Ladies and gentlemen, its sick out there and its getting sicker!"     :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 29, 2017, 04:07:37 pm
Agreed.  Ms. Jaye's video and the talk by Dr. Peterson at the Manning Center are a powerful one-two punch to the prevailing leftist orthodoxy.

I have not seen "The Red Pill" either - nor have I read Stephen Hicks' book on postmodernism but I think those two oversights are going to be corrected in the near future. 

Thanks again for posting this stuff.  It has become my daily reminder that the world is a real mess.  In the words of legendary radio host Bob Grant, "Ladies and gentlemen, its sick out there and its getting sicker!"     :coffee

Thanks coelacanth  :cool. The occasional reminder like this does me good. It's important to shed light on this more sinister side of the political zeitgeist and it isn't always easy to sift through this s___.

ETA: I just bought "the red pill" on Amazon.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 29, 2017, 04:08:20 pm
https://youtu.be/fXQ4WuoY33s

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 29, 2017, 07:08:52 pm
I bet she catches a sh&tstorm on social media after that one .     :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on May 29, 2017, 07:33:52 pm
I bet she catches a sh&tstorm on social media after that one .     :cool
Yup, They're going to have a field day with her use of the phrase "white race".   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 29, 2017, 09:19:16 pm
Yup, They're going to have a field day with her use of the phrase "white race".   
It's about time someone said it.  Lots of men make content like that, but it is good for a woman to make some for a change.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on May 30, 2017, 02:11:41 am
It's about time someone said it.  Lots of men make content like that, but it is good for a woman to make some for a change.
It would have been a bit smarter to include a bit stating that no one would think such a statement amiss if it were applied to any other ethnic group that was in danger of disappearing. 
As it is what she said will be labeled as racist and while that sort of labeling is almost inevitable if what you're saying irritates the left there isn't anything in the video that would serve as a counter such an attack.    Not that it would stop the snowflakes from going on the attack, but for all the middle-of-the-road people who are only going to know RAS via a small sound bite cherry picked from this clip just to make her look like Adolf.     
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 30, 2017, 07:12:33 am
It would have been a bit smarter to include a bit stating that no one would think such a statement amiss if it were applied to any other ethnic group that was in danger of disappearing. 
As it is what she said will be labeled as racist and while that sort of labeling is almost inevitable if what you're saying irritates the left there isn't anything in the video that would serve as a counter such an attack.    Not that it would stop the snowflakes from going on the attack, but for all the middle-of-the-road people who are only going to know RAS via a small sound bite cherry picked from this clip just to make her look like Adolf.     

Your statement is not incorrect. However I must say that even if she did add in that clarifying caveat, anyone making a sound bite to prove a point would conveniently omit said caveat.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on May 30, 2017, 07:41:05 am
Your statement is not incorrect. However I must say that even if she did add in that clarifying caveat, anyone making a sound bite to prove a point would conveniently omit said caveat.
I agree %100, but at least she'd be able to show the portion placing the statement in context in a rebuttal to such accusations.
Anything she might film after the fact to rebut any such accusations will just be blown off as trying to backtrack.   

It's a crying shame that these days one needs to use the caution of a trial lawyer when speaking on social issues  to avoid having one's words maliciously twisted entirely out of context.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 30, 2017, 10:11:35 am
It would have been a bit smarter to include a bit stating that no one would think such a statement amiss if it were applied to any other ethnic group that was in danger of disappearing.       
You do have a point...

As it is what she said will be labeled as racist...   
But who cares?  I have stopped caring what the left thinks of me.  The truth is the truth, and I am not about to sacrifice it for the feelings or opinions of the sheep.  If the Truth is 'racist' to them, then let them call me a racist and I will wear the title with pride.  And the Truth?  Let's be honest, if a population reproduces at sub-replacement levels, that population is going to go extinct.  Even more so if they invite in foreigners who breed like the figurative rabbits.  That's not racism, that is math.

Oh, but why should anyone care?  People are people, all the same on the inside...  Horses___.  People are like dogs.  Big ones, little ones, fast ones, smart ones, and so on.  People are not just like Labs, where outside of Chocolate, Golden, and Black they are all the same.  No, we are very diverse, both inside and out.


As it is, the term 'racist' has been stretched to the point where it includes words, deeds, and thoughts having nothing to do with race.  Just like the concept of 'rape,' it has been made to take on whatever meaning the libtards need it for at the time, and thus the value and potency of the word is diminished in the eyes of regular people. 

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on May 30, 2017, 10:55:08 am
The white race is always confusing to me. It seems to be more of a cultural idea than an actual biological or genetic term. There is a pretty large variance in European descent.

I do not really care if the 'white race' ceases to exist. What I do not want to see happen is the ideas from that culture to die. The ideas that have emerged on governance and society are the greatest humanity has created so far. Millions of humans have died in the grand experiments to craft solid ideals for governments.

This is the first time in history where there is a group of people that COULD crush the rest of the world and make every human bend the knee to their country. That has not done so. Few people would argue that the western countries could absolutely rule the globe through pure military power. IF we were like every other civilization in time. Then we would rally our troops and prep the nukes to expand our empire, but we do not.

If you cannot see the virtue in a society that has all the power, but chooses not to wield it against other civilizations. Then you are truly lost.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 30, 2017, 11:03:46 am
The white race is always confusing to me. It seems to be more of a cultural idea than an actual biological or genetic term. There is a pretty large variance in European descent.

I do not really care if the 'white race' ceases to exist. What I do not want to see happen is the ideas from that culture to die. The ideas that have emerged on governance and society are the greatest humanity has created so far. Millions of humans have died in the grand experiments to craft solid ideals for governments.

This is the first time in history where there is a group of people that COULD crush the rest of the world and make every human bend the knee to their country. That has not done so. Few people would argue that the western countries could absolutely rule the globe through pure military power. IF we were like every other civilization in time. Then we would rally our troops and prep the nukes to expand our empire, but we do not.

If you cannot see the virtue in a society that has all the power, but chooses not to wield it against other civilizations. Then you are truly lost.

Very well stated  :thumbup1.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on May 30, 2017, 12:27:05 pm
You do have a point...
 But who cares?  I have stopped caring what the left thinks of me.  The truth is the truth, and I am not about to sacrifice it for the feelings or opinions of the sheep.

I'm not concerned with the left's opinions of me either.
My concern is for the damage they do to those that don't know any better through the lies they weave from such statements.   Someone who after seeing this video in it's entirety and seeing the valid points made and as a result started to question or resist the stream of lies and half truths the progressives serve up to the world may not have that realization if they only see a snippet where the term "white race"  is spun to make all appear as a white supremacist  speech, an intentional misrepresentation made more difficult to refute due to the lack of having explicitly set the context in the original video.

Outside of understanding the left well enough to anticipate and counter them I couldn't care less about what they think.
Who I do care about are all the people out there that haven't been paying attention and who haven't cast their lot in on either side yet.   At the end of the day it would be far better that they view favorably as reasonable and bigoted those who oppose the progressives than to have them erroneously lump people like RAS in with white supremacists.  If they are, as you say, sheep it would be much better if they were inclined to follow us rather than to support the progressives.
On a totally pragmatic level, some day someone may end up in court an those "sheep" will be filling the jury box.  Which way to you want them to view this issue? 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 30, 2017, 12:38:19 pm
There are a couple of things to work through here as a society:

1. Why has the political spectrum now gotten where white=bad, yet specifically racial collective groups such as black lives matter are promoted and obviously racist?

2. It doesn't matter what race we are talking about, "bean pole" families are problematic in modern society (and they are a topic in modern publications, right up there with sitting too long and drinking soft drinks). Not to state the obvious, but reproduction is necessary for our species to continue and in the same way that genders and countries are cherished and celebrated for their differences, it really would be nice to not have a race go extinct (whether it is the black, white, or naïve American race... Races losing their identity or going completely extinct is not an agreeable outcome. After all, diversity is cool, kids  :cool).
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 30, 2017, 12:50:16 pm
The white race is always confusing to me. It seems to be more of a cultural idea than an actual biological or genetic term. There is a pretty large variance in European descent.
Yep.  My opinion is that just as 'African' is the catch-all term for the continent of Africa, 'White' is the general term for decendants of European nations.  We just don't live there any more.  Europe (for now) Australia, and every North or South American country, to varying degrees, are inhabited by European stock.  Inside of 'European,' (just like inside of 'African') there are many, many variations.  The simplest breakdowns are the Slavic, Germanic, Mediterranean, etc, etc. peoples.  Unlike most Africans in Africa, the European peoples (especially outside of Europe) have heavily interbred over the past few centuries, making it difficult to assign most people any label past generic 'white.'


This is the first time in history where there is a group of people that COULD crush the rest of the world and make every human bend the knee to their country. That has not done so. Few people would argue that the western countries could absolutely rule the globe through pure military power. IF we were like every other civilization in time. Then we would rally our troops and prep the nukes to expand our empire, but we do not.

If you cannot see the virtue in a society that has all the power, but chooses not to wield it against other civilizations. Then you are truly lost.   
You can probably explain it better than I can, but the civilization of Europe comes from centuries of being steeped (at least nominally) in the moral teachings of the various forms of Christianity.  The fact that they legislated morality to the 'heathens' that they conquered, and let them simmer in it for 1000 years.  Before the introduction of Christianity, the peoples of Europe were... Not nice.  Certainly not all that different from the native American civilizations that existed pre-1500.  Cruel, barbaric, and nasty.

Then they were 'Christianized,' once again, nominally, usually by their leader being baptized or whatever practice was observed.  They were still rough people, but the centuries saw them grow largely more civilized - if not less violent - while especially in Britain the concept of the king's absolute power was questioned and curbed.  The rights of Man were made to be of increasing importance until the late 1700s when a bunch of WASP men threw off the yoke of a king (an institution that had been viewed as blessed by Christianity) and form a constitutional republic.  The United States.

In the two centuries that have followed, almost every European country has thrown out or neutered their King's powers, and taken the powers to themselves. (Liechtenstein and Monaco being the two tiny exceptions)

Combined with an understandable aversion to and fear of real war, brought upon them by the two world wars, and the bread-and-circuses politics that a democracy enables...  That, in my opinion, is why Europe is so 'civilized' and weak.  They feel that they have nothing to gain, and everything to lose, from being aggressive and protectionist.

So...  Now the tough question is whether non-Europeans could have done the same thing...  Back in the 1790s, would anything but a homogenous WASP society have come up with the US Constitution.  No.  Hell no.  We barely got what we got in the first place, never mind with less civilized and more diverse opinions.  It is not that non-American non-whites do not want a peaceful form of self government...  They just are not receptive to it - they are not wired that way.  It took Eurpoeans a millennia of cultural evolution to be ready, so why do we delude ourselves that everyone else can just cut the line?

These days even most non-white countries use a form of nominally representative government.  Many of those were introduced by the evil colonial overlords, but even among those, show me one where the government functions as efficiently, as humanely or as fairly as those in Europe.


Which brings us back to the European immigrants, refugees, invaders:  If we think that allowing them to rush in unchecked is going to work... if we are that stupid... then we get what we deserve.  Not only will the immigrants not adopt western forms of life, I would argue that unless they are forced to...  They can not.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 30, 2017, 02:12:46 pm
...and in the same way that both genders and countries are cherished and celebrated for their differences, it really would be nice to not have a race go extinct (whether it is the black, white, or native American race... Races losing their identity or going completely extinct is not an agreeable outcome. After all, diversity is cool, kids  :cool).
Indeed.  I do not consider myself a white supremacist, because I do not view the white race as 'supreme,' or superior.  But it is different on the inside, as are all the other ones.  If the white race were dogs, what kind would they be?  Same question for Blacks?  Asians?  Answers may vary, but the fact is, you were thinking of three different kinds of dogs when you read the questions.  My point exactly. ;)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 30, 2017, 02:29:04 pm
Indeed.  I do not consider myself a white supremacist, because I do not view the white race as 'supreme,' or superior.  But it is different on the inside, as are all the other ones.  If the white race were dogs, what kind would they be?  Same question for Blacks?  Asians?  Answers may vary, but the fact is, you were thinking of three different kinds of dogs when you read the questions.  My point exactly. ;)

I am a 3rd generation (half) Czech. My family originated here as indentured servants after the civil war.

I don't believe in a superior race, but after trying Chinese food and Italian, I definitely know it's not the Czech's at the top of the food chain  :neener.

Btw, now that it's summer and I have time to cook, I had been planning to have the audacity to ask you for any Italian based recipes you might part with  :-[. You have previously stated you enjoy high quality food and I thought I could get some pointers  ;).

/ end thread drift.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 30, 2017, 04:13:19 pm
http://www.theolympian.com/news/local/article153150894.html

Teaching your own students is racist, disagreeing with the status quo is racist, and having the wrong opinion is dangerous.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on May 30, 2017, 04:21:57 pm
I am a 3rd generation (half) Czech. My family originated here as indentured servants after the civil war.
Bohemian or Moravian?  And which civil war are we talking about?  The communist coup?

I don't believe in a superior race, but after trying Chinese food and Italian, I definitely know it's not the Czech's at the top of the food chain  :neener.
You are making my point.  No, not every nation (different from country) excels at everything.  Ever notice how the top sprinters have a tendency to be from Jamaica and the Carribean?  And the top marathoners are usually from Kenya?  Czechs may not be inclined to cook - I really don't know - but neither are the British, and that is a fact. ;)  But the British do excel at being thorough in their dealings, careful, and extremely well-mannered.  As the population of Britain... evolves... :vomit It may come to be that they are known for other qualities.  That could be argued that it is a cultural, not racial trait, (using racial to mean the whole people, not just the skin color) but I would counter that a people make their culture just as much as it makes them.  Change a population over to one that is incompatible with the local culture, and...  Surprise, surprise... the culture will not long stand.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 30, 2017, 04:50:19 pm
Moravia, IIRC. We got here after the American civil war, later we helped fight WII.

Czech cooking is good, at least the way grandma always made it, it was. I just prefer Italian food. Even if I'm 95% sure all I've ever had of it is butchered pseudo Americanised "Italian" food.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on May 30, 2017, 04:59:07 pm
Moravia, IIRC. We got here after the American civil war, later we helped fight WII.

Czech cooking is good, at least the way grandma always made it, it was. I just prefer Italian food. Even if I'm 95% sure all I've ever had of it is butchered pseudo Americanised "Italian" food.

Dude, Italian isn't necessarily "authentic."  "Spaghetti" was brought back from China, by Marco Polo.  Only then it was called Lo Mein.  :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 30, 2017, 05:04:42 pm
Dude, Italian isn't necessarily "authentic."  "Spaghetti" was brought back from China, by Marco Polo.  Only then it was called Lo Mein.  :rotfl

And seeing as Chinese and Italian food are my two favourites, we have now come full circle  :rotfl.

No matter. My main point is, Kaso, hit me up with some recipes  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: wyatt on May 30, 2017, 07:40:27 pm
Moravia, IIRC. We got here after the American civil war, later we helped fight WII.

Czech cooking is good, at least the way grandma always made it, it was. I just prefer Italian food. Even if I'm 95% sure all I've ever had of it is butchered pseudo Americanised "Italian" food.

Lots of folks of Czech decent here in Texas, especially in the Hill Country - that's where we get kolache from!                       
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 30, 2017, 11:20:13 pm
https://youtu.be/aQ6UrgKkBAc

There's a bit of rage in this one, but it's well spoken between the profanity. You know feminism is evil stuff if it drives a Canadian to swearing.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 31, 2017, 12:54:13 am
Excellent.  Profanity and all.  People who are fluent and proficient in their use of profanity have an extra gear when it comes to spoken communication and there is simply no other language like English when it comes to that.   And yes, feminism - especially as it is practiced today - is the thought equivalent of hydrofluoric acid.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 31, 2017, 09:54:22 am
Excellent.  Profanity and all.  People who are fluent and proficient in their use of profanity have an extra gear when it comes to spoken communication and there is simply no other language like English when it comes to that.   And yes, feminism - especially as it is practiced today - is the thought equivalent of hydrofluoric acid.   

:hat
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 31, 2017, 03:01:41 pm
https://youtu.be/d59hTGKRESk
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on May 31, 2017, 03:30:53 pm
You do have a point...
 But who cares?  I have stopped caring what the left thinks of me.  The truth is the truth, and I am not about to sacrifice it for the feelings or opinions of the sheep. 


Yes
The white race is always confusing to me. It seems to be more of a cultural idea than an actual biological or genetic term. There is a pretty large variance in European descent.

I do not really care if the 'white race' ceases to exist. What I do not want to see happen is the ideas from that culture to die. The ideas that have emerged on governance and society are the greatest humanity has created so far. Millions of humans have died in the grand experiments to craft solid ideals for governments.

This is the first time in history where there is a group of people that COULD crush the rest of the world and make every human bend the knee to their country. That has not done so. Few people would argue that the western countries could absolutely rule the globe through pure military power. IF we were like every other civilization in time. Then we would rally our troops and prep the nukes to expand our empire, but we do not.

If you cannot see the virtue in a society that has all the power, but chooses not to wield it against other civilizations. Then you are truly lost.   

and definitely YES!
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on May 31, 2017, 11:16:46 pm
Ms. Jaye sounds entirely reasonable.   Maybe I should find a copy of her film to watch.   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on May 31, 2017, 11:56:42 pm
Ms. Jaye sounds entirely reasonable.   Maybe I should find a copy of her film to watch.   :hmm

What's stopping you?

Mine is coming in the mail as we speak  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 01, 2017, 02:06:24 am
Just picked up a couple of books to read.  Maybe after that.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 01, 2017, 10:42:13 am
https://youtu.be/dMRDLdsOOjY

"How woke is you bae?"

#ded  :banghead
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 01, 2017, 11:17:50 am
Kill it with fire. :scrutiny

Not SOH, the writers of that horrific article.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 01, 2017, 11:21:16 am
Kill it with fire. :scrutiny

Not SOH, the writers of that horrific article.

Yes. All the articles.

As a side project, anyone who uses the term "woke" should be exiled. The english language, it seems, is being murdered.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 01, 2017, 11:56:29 am
Yes. All the articles.

As a side project, anyone who uses the term "woke" should be exiled. The english language, it seems, is being murdered.
No-no.  Not the articles.
Aside from a deep seated aversion to the idea of burning books and other writings based on the general principle of being opposed to censorship and whatnot, those should be preserved for posterity as an example of how not to write.   
Use fire on the authors of those repulsive propaganda tracts.   :coffee

The articles themselves may  even have utility if used as a litmus test when dealing with <shudder> Journalism majors as part of their final exam.  Give them to the journalism majors to be read and critiqued.   If the student pillories the articles they may be allowed to take the rest of the exam.  If however they laud the articles they should not only be expelled and barred from the field of Journalism,  but sent over to assist in the biology labs after being pithed.  :thumbup1


Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 02, 2017, 04:11:30 am
" Mimsy were the borogoves "    :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 02, 2017, 09:48:54 am
https://youtu.be/EPdyQAmcmDA

Watch Jordan B Peterson hold his own against the Canadian Senate.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 02, 2017, 02:05:07 pm
Well, that was a slam dunk.   :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 05, 2017, 08:45:41 am
https://youtu.be/i4LJxN-onqg

https://youtu.be/hXwXBcWD6ZM

https://youtu.be/YHMqKonsCrc
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: First Shirt on June 05, 2017, 10:03:41 am
Excellent.  Profanity and all.  People who are fluent and proficient in their use of profanity have an extra gear when it comes to spoken communication and there is simply no other language like English when it comes to that.   And yes, feminism - especially as it is practiced today - is the thought equivalent of hydrofluoric acid.   

As Mark Twain pointed out, "At certain times, in certain situations, under certain circumstances, profanity offers a relief denied even to prayer."
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 05, 2017, 10:09:59 am
As Mark Twain pointed out, "At certain times, in certain situations, under certain circumstances, profanity offers a relief denied even to prayer."

 :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 06, 2017, 01:45:28 pm
https://youtu.be/bmL2Xna1VdE

I need to look into the honey badger's: female organisation for men's rights.

Never heard of them until recently. I didn't even know that Karen was a member.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 07, 2017, 01:59:23 pm
When I clicked this at lunch today, I wasn't expecting this. I'm completely floored by the argument made by Karen, and I find it as well reasoned at it is scary.

https://youtu.be/faeT4fIFAcg

If you're passing through, I ask of you to watch the first 10 minutes of it and tell me what you think, as this is one of the better videos posted here. If your hooked within the first 10 minutes like I was, perhaps you'll even watch it in its entirety  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 07, 2017, 03:40:51 pm
When I clicked this at lunch today, I wasn't expecting this. I'm completely floored by the argument made by Karen, and I find it as well reasoned at it is scary.



Not directly related to this video of hers, but something sort of stirred up by bit's and pieces of what she's said in this and previous videos as well as J.P's and others commentaries, I think I've figured out why the SWJ crowd...particularly the third wave feminists...have taken up the banner of "trans-gender rights" and trying to push a narrative that gender is a social not biological construct.

As long as gender is defined by biology that fact can always be used to argue against blaming men for every wrong ever committed.
When one of them is trying to lay blame and responsibility for some perceived wrong or injustice on all biological males one counter, not by any means the only one, is to ask "What about newborn males, who haven't done anything to anyone?  How can you even attempt to lay blame at their feet based solely on their randomly determined biological gender?  They had no choice in being born male, so how can it be fair to assign blame to them based on something over which they had no choice or control?"

Making gender a, "Social Construct", something that one has to choose would make being male a choice, and thus "his fault" rather than a "blameless" random assignment by biology.

If my harebrained off the cuff theory is even partially correct it would mean that the goal of many of their little crusades are very probably just chess moves to try and preemptively invalidate counters to their assaults on Western Civilization and the ideal of individual freedom and responsibility as opposed to them having any real interest in the "cause du jour"  for which they're whipping the usual crew of useful idiot's into a frenzy of indignant outrage.   

That or it's my cold meds talking :neener
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 07, 2017, 05:31:24 pm
Not directly related to this video of hers, but something sort of stirred up by bit's and pieces of what she's said in this and previous videos as well as J.P's and others commentaries, I think I've figured out why the SWJ crowd...particularly the third wave feminists...have taken up the banner of "trans-gender rights" and trying to push a narrative that gender is a social not biological construct.

As long as gender is defined by biology that fact can always be used to argue against blaming men for every wrong ever committed.
When one of them is trying to lay blame and responsibility for some perceived wrong or injustice on all biological males one counter, not by any means the only one, is to ask "What about newborn males, who haven't done anything to anyone?  How can you even attempt to lay blame at their feet based solely on their randomly determined biological gender?  They had no choice in being born male, so how can it be fair to assign blame to them based on something over which they had no choice or control?"

Making gender a, "Social Construct", something that one has to choose would make being male a choice, and thus "his fault" rather than a "blameless" random assignment by biology.

If my harebrained off the cuff theory is even partially correct it would mean that the goal of many of their little crusades are very probably just chess moves to try and preemptively invalidate counters to their assaults on Western Civilization and the ideal of individual freedom and responsibility as opposed to them having any real interest in the "cause du jour"  for which they're whipping the usual crew of useful idiot's into a frenzy of indignant outrage.   

That or it's my cold meds talking :neener

Interesting point, but what about those damn TERF's?  :neener

Here Karen summarises feminism. This is a 2 minute excerpt from "the red pill" documentary.

https://youtu.be/DMhAFH2O0pc
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 07, 2017, 05:53:37 pm
Interesting point, but what about those damn TERF's?  :neener


I think TERF's are actually an indication that my idea may be on target.   
As I said, their idea is to eliminate being born with a penis, something beyond one's control,  as the definition of being male.
I didn't say they were going to actually stop persecuting people solely on the grounds that they were born with them. 
They just want to remove  the option of saying, "But that's not my fault, I had no choice in the matter, your position isn't fair". 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on June 07, 2017, 06:05:16 pm
Not directly related to this video of hers, but something sort of stirred up by bit's and pieces of what she's said in this and previous videos as well as J.P's and others commentaries, I think I've figured out why the SWJ crowd...particularly the third wave feminists...have taken up the banner of "trans-gender rights" and trying to push a narrative that gender is a social not biological construct.

As long as gender is defined by biology that fact can always be used to argue against blaming men for every wrong ever committed.
When one of them is trying to lay blame and responsibility for some perceived wrong or injustice on all biological males one counter, not by any means the only one, is to ask "What about newborn males, who haven't done anything to anyone?  How can you even attempt to lay blame at their feet based solely on their randomly determined biological gender?  They had no choice in being born male, so how can it be fair to assign blame to them based on something over which they had no choice or control?"

Making gender a, "Social Construct", something that one has to choose would make being male a choice, and thus "his fault" rather than a "blameless" random assignment by biology.

If my harebrained off the cuff theory is even partially correct it would mean that the goal of many of their little crusades are very probably just chess moves to try and preemptively invalidate counters to their assaults on Western Civilization and the ideal of individual freedom and responsibility as opposed to them having any real interest in the "cause du jour"  for which they're whipping the usual crew of useful idiot's into a frenzy of indignant outrage.   

That or it's my cold meds talking :neener

That is a pretty good swing, but it seems sadly a miss IMO.

Post-modernist Marxist ideas state fairly completely that everything is simply a struggle between two competing classes of people. The Marxists have simply invaded feminism and state the fight is male against female instead of bourgeoisie against proletariat. This is pretty easy to notice since they say they fight against the oppressive capitalistic patriarchy. It boils down to oppressors holding down the oppressed.

This is why you get many of the 'oppression olympics' going among the ranks in the femisists/sjw crowd. If you are part of a more oppressed class then you are somehow more worthy in some odd measure. They basically eat themselves if they split their own ranks into classes. As it is always a dichotomy war. There can be no discussion. Discussion is simply the oppressors way of oppressing the oppressed class.

The only way for the oppressing class to be even allowed to exist is for them to subjugate themselves to the oppressed individuals. They cannot speak or express themselves in any manner. That is making an attempt to regain power and become an oppressor.

You must always remember with this type of thought process that individual identity does not exist. They are simply a part of a group and draw all their defining characteristics from that group.

You are attempting to lay your own western, christian driven ideals on top of a system that rejects all those assumptions.

Individuals are not born blameless or 'without sin'. The individual has no transcendent importance. They are just a part of a group. If that group is the oppressing group. Then they are born into privilege with all the blame of the entire group.

It is a ideology completely opposed to most modern western societies founding concepts. They do not believe in discussion, the inherent worth of the individual and individual rights.

The transgender rights being pushed by some sections of feminism is simply using a willing stooge to gain more power. The gay men were used in much the same way, but once their usefulness ran out they were pretty quickly ousted from the forefront. Remember that logic, lying and moral bearing have no importance to post modernists. Speech is simply a tool to be used to gain power and hold onto it.     
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 07, 2017, 06:15:40 pm
Plebian,
I'm not sure anything I said contradicts with anything in your response. 
I wasn't asserting that they actually believe in "innocence at birth", as you put it,  but simply that they seek to eliminate that as an excuse which might be viewed as valid in  the eyes of the public at large.   
It's for external, not internal consumption,  to rob their opposition of something which the unwashed masses would see as a legitimate point against automatically blaming men simply for being male.

*edited to add*
If being "X" is something in which one has no control, most people would see that as a valid argument as why being "X" should not automatically make that person the villain.    If it can be spun that being "X" is a choice, then it should be easier to cast those persons in the role of villain....they chose to be what they are and with all the faults associated with that status.   They can be hated without guilt as they chose their role,  and there is no excuse.

It's a PR/public perception thing, not a change in internal dogma.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 07, 2017, 06:40:24 pm
Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists (TERF's), might actually be hindering their own movement... Then again, maybe not. They argue that the only one's who should be in feminism are true women  :hmm.

Good discussions, guys. 10/10  :thumbup1.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on June 07, 2017, 10:33:41 pm
Plebian,
I'm not sure anything I said contradicts with anything in your response. 
I wasn't asserting that they actually believe in "innocence at birth", as you put it,  but simply that they seek to eliminate that as an excuse which might be viewed as valid in  the eyes of the public at large.   
It's for external, not internal consumption,  to rob their opposition of something which the unwashed masses would see as a legitimate point against automatically blaming men simply for being male.

*edited to add*
If being "X" is something in which one has no control, most people would see that as a valid argument as why being "X" should not automatically make that person the villain.    If it can be spun that being "X" is a choice, then it should be easier to cast those persons in the role of villain....they chose to be what they are and with all the faults associated with that status.   They can be hated without guilt as they chose their role,  and there is no excuse.

It's a PR/public perception thing, not a change in internal dogma.

They would not be using it for your stated purpose, OR it would shoot their position in the public right in the non-binary foot. If they choose to state that class inclusion is a choice. Then there would be no class warfare to be upset against. It would imply that the oppressed class CAN become an oppressing class. Which they state is not possible. Remember, only white people can be racist and only men can be sexist.

They clearly state that being part of X class is inherent to the individual from birth. He/she was born gay, OR born in the wrong gendered body. They are part of the oppressed class at birth.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 08, 2017, 02:37:45 am
They would not be using it for your stated purpose, OR it would shoot their position in the public right in the non-binary foot. If they choose to state that class inclusion is a choice. Then there would be no class warfare to be upset against. It would imply that the oppressed class CAN become an oppressing class. Which they state is not possible. Remember, only white people can be racist and only men can be sexist.

They clearly state that being part of X class is inherent to the individual from birth. He/she was born gay, OR born in the wrong gendered body. They are part of the oppressed class at birth.

How do they handle the issue of people born poor (oppressed class) who through work and perseverance become wealthy (oppressor class) if transition from one class to another isn't possible?     
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 08, 2017, 10:09:51 am
https://youtu.be/TPihPrNseAo

Posted a video like this previously, but after going back to look at it, it has now been taken down  :-\.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on June 08, 2017, 11:00:27 am
How do they handle the issue of people born poor (oppressed class) who through work and perseverance become wealthy (oppressor class) if transition from one class to another isn't possible?   

You become an oppressor by theft from the oppressed class. Wealth is never 'earned' it is stolen by being part of the oppressing class. So you never transitioned to another class. You were born with oppressing ideas and acted them out. IF you ever acted like you were part of the oppressed class then you were just a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 08, 2017, 11:22:38 am
You become an oppressor by theft from the oppressed class. Wealth is never 'earned' it is stolen by being part of the oppressing class. So you never transitioned to another class. You were born with oppressing ideas and acted them out. IF you ever acted like you were part of the oppressed class then you were just a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Could this be a possibility of why Christina Hoff Sommers is so hated? Because she is a first gen fem who is now saying that the third gen fems have gone too far? Now that she has spoken up against some fallacious ideas such as male privlege, she has become an apostate.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on June 08, 2017, 02:48:02 pm
Could this be a possibility of why Christina Hoff Sommers is so hated? Because she is a first gen fem who is now saying that the third gen fems have gone too far? Now that she has spoken up against some fallacious ideas such as male privlege, she has become an apostate.

She is not really treated any worse than any other member of the oppressing class that is expressing logic and wanting discourse. The instant you step outside of the ideology you are the enemy. The enemy is constantly attacking you and oppressing you by their simple existence. So they deserve no mercy or understanding. If they are allowed to speak they will simply being using that speech to oppress more people.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on June 08, 2017, 05:41:10 pm
The more I read and watch about the modern feminist movement the more I agree with the outlook of Jordan Peterson.

I do not know if he has stated as such, but the Marxist feminist movement feels very characteristically of the mother archetype. While the modern western secular democracy idea is very much a father archetype.

The mother wants to protect you from the world and thinks everyone outside the group is an enemy to be killed. There is no reason to venture out as we are safe in the home.

The father wishes to prepare you for the world and asks you to see if other groups are enemies, allies or neutral. You should venture out into the unknown to gather riches even if it is dangerous.

I think this is why feminist 'feel' the western world is patriarchal. It is the 'energy' of the father expressed large in government. I think this is also why the modern feminist seem to parallel Islamist. They both see the external as inherently the enemy.

What I think the feminist miss is that the western world was not built to help men and secure them privileges. It was built to protect the most precious resource of any society, females. The men are sent to war, into harsh jobs and most take responsibility. So that they can secure the right to access society and breeding rights. A castle and a prison look much the same from the inside.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 08, 2017, 05:41:57 pm
https://youtu.be/jA96Kf30TQU

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 10, 2017, 11:18:16 pm
https://youtu.be/l5qKUFJ0jdI

https://youtu.be/YsErSrR2fEY
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 11, 2017, 03:10:06 pm
https://youtu.be/MvBqt1Eotm0

 :hmm Looks like the main stream media sucks dick, regardless of what country it's in.

Go ahead fellas, keep pushing the status quo and censoring the "wrong" opinions.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 12, 2017, 03:48:18 am
 :facepalm   I just spent six days without a TV or internet access.   Boy do I miss that place now that I'm back home. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 12, 2017, 10:24:48 am
https://youtu.be/xvLsslFEv7k

Cassie uploaded the full interview herself. I think she braved the s___ storm fairly well.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 12, 2017, 03:20:00 pm
https://youtu.be/8DL4Zo-Q6Dc

Same country, but a counter argument. Not sure who the woman is, but I may have to look her up.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 12, 2017, 03:38:10 pm
https://youtu.be/FEaZyYOLUUk

Shoe is hilarious  :rotfl.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 12, 2017, 08:31:53 pm
https://youtu.be/WDGm9Y-91i4
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 13, 2017, 12:00:45 am

The only way for the oppressing class to be even allowed to exist is for them to subjugate themselves to the oppressed individuals. They cannot speak or express themselves in any manner. That is making an attempt to regain power and become an oppressor.
Hmm.
I think I see why they feel so much kinship with Muslims as this sounds rather like the concepts of dhimmi.     

I'm also seeing a giant problem for them if this aspect of their philosophy were to become understood by the population at large...if anyone NOT on their side cannot be allowed to exist unless they subjugate themselves then the only choices are slavery/second class citizen status or death. 
They've eliminated any option of changing sides, you're born into your class and can't "change who you are". If you aren't born into the proletariat,  from the time of your birth you only have two options open to you...slavery to them in penance for the crime of having been born an oppressor or to be eliminated.
   
Boiled down, what they're saying is that if you're not in one of the protected classes you have the choice of being their slave or dying*.   If that were made clear and presented to the general public the response might be more physical than intellectual.



*I seem to recall that most places where Marxist have totally take control of government they've killed off those who demonstrated they had chosen against subjugation.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 13, 2017, 08:44:39 am
https://youtu.be/_WuJm3N0p9c

One of the roughest two minutes I've had to sit through. Really, ladies? "Princess got s___ to do?"  :scrutiny

They should check their privilege when it comes to the gender stereotype of male disposability among Italian plumbers :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 13, 2017, 09:19:10 am
https://youtu.be/zcDZisJ_ds4
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on June 13, 2017, 05:22:56 pm
Hmm.
I think I see why they feel so much kinship with Muslims as this sounds rather like the concepts of dhimmi.     

I'm also seeing a giant problem for them if this aspect of their philosophy were to become understood by the population at large...if anyone NOT on their side cannot be allowed to exist unless they subjugate themselves then the only choices are slavery/second class citizen status or death. 
They've eliminated any option of changing sides, you're born into your class and can't "change who you are". If you aren't born into the proletariat,  from the time of your birth you only have two options open to you...slavery to them in penance for the crime of having been born an oppressor or to be eliminated.
   
Boiled down, what they're saying is that if you're not in one of the protected classes you have the choice of being their slave or dying*.   If that were made clear and presented to the general public the response might be more physical than intellectual.



*I seem to recall that most places where Marxist have totally take control of government they've killed off those who demonstrated they had chosen against subjugation.

It is just Marxism using different names. Since Marxist do not truly believe discussion is worth while. Then there can only be slavery or death left.

There are many psychologist and philosophers that believe there are only 3 states for a human to exist. You can be dominate, subordinate or in mutual discussion. Most of your interactions in the world can be boiled down to these three states. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 13, 2017, 05:55:15 pm
It is just Marxism using different names. Since Marxist do not truly believe discussion is worth while. Then there can only be slavery or death left.

There are many psychologist and philosophers that believe there are only 3 states for a human to exist. You can be dominate, subordinate or in mutual discussion. Most of your interactions in the world can be boiled down to these three states.

I wonder how firearms changed the state of human affairs? It is kind of difficult to be dominant/subordinate when the firearm evened things out.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on June 13, 2017, 06:02:46 pm
I wonder how firearms changed the state of human affairs? It is kind of difficult to be dominant/subordinate when the firearm evened things out.
It changed almost nothing. The biggest difference is simply amount of humans killed until we swing back to discussion.

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Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 13, 2017, 06:58:05 pm
It does, however, explain the rabidly anti-gun rights stance of the modern Marxist, no?  Lots of folks are content to stay home and mow the lawn when there's Garand rifle in the closet.  No need to get your panties all bunched up and go march in the street - just stay home and chill out until it either blows over or gets serious.   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 13, 2017, 07:00:27 pm
https://youtu.be/8DL4Zo-Q6Dc

Same country, but a counter argument. Not sure who the woman is, but I may have to look her up.
Well, whoever she is - she said more in 42 seconds than the two "professionals" on the TV news.   :scrutiny
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 14, 2017, 12:48:47 am
It does, however, explain the rabidly anti-gun rights stance of the modern Marxist, no?  Lots of folks are content to stay home and mow the lawn when there's Garand rifle in the closet.  No need to get your panties all bunched up and go march in the street - just stay home and chill out until it either blows over or gets serious.   :hmm
I think that might be summed up as, "Let them talk all they want, if they ever try to actually force me to comply with their idiot ideas my Garand will stop that nonsense pretty quick".   
The problems I see with that mindset are:
1- They've been sabotaging our collective backbone, especially when it comes to using force as individuals,  through psyops over the last 3-4 generations.   Popular media, especially that marketed to children, is rife with it.    "Violence is never the solution" is a message they've been pushing for a long time.  Not that I think violence should always be the first option or that it's always the best option,  but sometimes it's the most appropriate option...even in some cases where we've allowed the legal system to make it criminal.   
2- The leftist/progressive/Marxist crowd has mostly lulled us into thinking they're a bunch of non-violent cry babies.  By and large I would estimate that most mainstream Americans have an image of them as wimpy hipsters, sign holders, and other foolish but annoying harmless non-violent snowflakes.   For the most part they seem to have done a good job at keeping their violence out of the public eye or having it misidentified, but we're starting to see that slip a bit with Antifas.      I think too many people underestimate how quickly they can/will turn to violence, and for those who think that such factors as many of them having little to no first hand exposure to firearms being something that would keep them from being a serious threat...it's doesn't take that long to teach someone those skills to the minimum degree needed to use them in mob violence.      What I'm saying is that if things ever get really violent on a large scale they're not going to be the paper tiger some think they will be.     


Really, if their position is that you must submit or die then the "discussion" was over before it was started.  All the talking is just them biding time, maneuvering for position,  and trying to weaken us.     There is no compromise to be had, never could be.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 14, 2017, 03:04:00 am
That's been pretty apparent since this thread started way back when.    :coffee    I don't really think that anybody who's been paying attention for the last 25-30 years is under the impression that the leftist/statist crowd has the slightest aversion to violence.  It seems to permeate their thought process 24/7 and they are never more full of themselves than when they get control of the apparatus of government to carry it all out for them.  That said, the most recent election cycle was sort of a 2x4 up side the head for them so they riot, they burn, they march, and they confront anybody anywhere who dares to reject the orthodoxy of their religion. 

Smarter people than me have opined that we are already in a civil war but the shooting hasn't started yet.  Maybe and maybe not but a book was recently published by one of the members here and I'd like to quote you a line from it :  " And when the force of law goes away, then force becomes the law." .  The profound truth of that statement is in no way lessened by having been found in a work of fiction. 

Its a cautionary tale and the book is titled "Lex Talionis" by Peter Nealen.  I suggest you acquire a copy. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 14, 2017, 09:52:14 am
 
I don't really think that anybody who's been paying attention for the last 25-30 years is under the impression that the leftist/statist crowd has the slightest aversion to violence. 
So a tiny fraction of the US population.   Based on how far they've been able to push their agenda, most people haven't been paying attention, they've simply been listening to sound bites.    I've been abroad for about half of that time frame* so some of what I've been seeing has come as a bit of a jolt, ala the boiling frog parable.   



  Smarter people than me have opined that we are already in a civil war but the shooting hasn't started yet.


From my perspective it looks like the opening stages to an Argentinian style dirty war.

  Maybe and maybe not but a book was recently published by one of the members here and I'd like to quote you a line from it :  " And when the force of law goes away, then force becomes the law." .

...he says to the person who's been living and working in corrupt third world countries for the last 13 years.  :coffee
  I've had the misfortune to be present when someone was being tortured by police to get a confession, and in another country I've witnessed first hand organized crime thugs beat someone to a pulp while the local police pretended not to see.  In some places the two parties I just mentioned are the same entity.
In the end, force is and has always been the law. 
From what I've seen, in what we consider civilized countries it appears that it's almost always economic rather than brute physical force but in the end it's still physical force that backs up a legal code...even if the decision handed down had more to do with economic influence than our concept of "justice".  It's been a long time since I've thought of anywhere as being "safe",  and the only thing I count on "the law" to do is to pick up the pieces afterwards.   



  The profound truth of that statement is in no way lessened by having been found in a work of fiction. 

Its a cautionary tale and the book is titled "Lex Talionis" by Peter Nealen.  I suggest you acquire a copy.

Being in a work of fiction doesn't invalidate a statement of truth.  Stories have served as a way to teach long before formal education came into existence.
No insult to Mr. Nealen, but I don't really have time to do much recreational reading these days.  I already have a backlog of books collecting dust.    I'd add it to the list of books to purchase when I get eventually back to the states someday.


*6 months total stateside in that time, 4 of those essentially isolated in the middle of nowhere ND in the middle of winter.  No, I am not really up to date on US pop culture and trends.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on June 14, 2017, 05:34:01 pm
It does, however, explain the rabidly anti-gun rights stance of the modern Marxist, no?  Lots of folks are content to stay home and mow the lawn when there's Garand rifle in the closet.  No need to get your panties all bunched up and go march in the street - just stay home and chill out until it either blows over or gets serious.   :hmm

I do not really think it is the firearm causing the sentiment of wait and see. It is the inherent trust we have in a system that has done pretty well for a few hundred years now. The laws of physics seem to apply to humans in the political sphere. If we are at rest we tend to stay at rest until a force acts on us directly.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on June 14, 2017, 05:44:42 pm
I think that might be summed up as, "Let them talk all they want, if they ever try to actually force me to comply with their idiot ideas my Garand will stop that nonsense pretty quick".   
The problems I see with that mindset are:
1- They've been sabotaging our collective backbone, especially when it comes to using force as individuals,  through psyops over the last 3-4 generations.   Popular media, especially that marketed to children, is rife with it.    "Violence is never the solution" is a message they've been pushing for a long time.  Not that I think violence should always be the first option or that it's always the best option,  but sometimes it's the most appropriate option...even in some cases where we've allowed the legal system to make it criminal.   
2- The leftist/progressive/Marxist crowd has mostly lulled us into thinking they're a bunch of non-violent cry babies.  By and large I would estimate that most mainstream Americans have an image of them as wimpy hipsters, sign holders, and other foolish but annoying harmless non-violent snowflakes.   For the most part they seem to have done a good job at keeping their violence out of the public eye or having it misidentified, but we're starting to see that slip a bit with Antifas.      I think too many people underestimate how quickly they can/will turn to violence, and for those who think that such factors as many of them having little to no first hand exposure to firearms being something that would keep them from being a serious threat...it's doesn't take that long to teach someone those skills to the minimum degree needed to use them in mob violence.      What I'm saying is that if things ever get really violent on a large scale they're not going to be the paper tiger some think they will be.     


Really, if their position is that you must submit or die then the "discussion" was over before it was started.  All the talking is just them biding time, maneuvering for position,  and trying to weaken us.     There is no compromise to be had, never could be.   

The Marxist left are paper tigers for right now and into the foreseeable future. They are not starving or enduring hardships. There is no character building going on and forging them by fire into a hardened force to be reckoned with in any field.

The original Marxist revolutions happened among starving and suffering people.

The modern Marxists have ran at the first sight of any strong willed opposition. The antifa groups were halted from doing violence in multiple places by a mere handful of individuals willing to stand and fight. If cops were allowed to stop them. There would have been no riots.

The best description I have seen of them was rich kids LARPing as communists.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 14, 2017, 09:46:21 pm
A direct hit amidships.   :thumbup1    " Fire at will, Gridley. "    :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 15, 2017, 12:44:54 am
https://youtu.be/Pc9d398wuYg
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 15, 2017, 12:53:23 am
The Marxist left are paper tigers for right now and into the foreseeable future. They are not starving or enduring hardships. There is no character building going on and forging them by fire into a hardened force to be reckoned with in any field.

The original Marxist revolutions happened among starving and suffering people.

The modern Marxists have ran at the first sight of any strong willed opposition. The antifa groups were halted from doing violence in multiple places by a mere handful of individuals willing to stand and fight. If cops were allowed to stop them. There would have been no riots.

The best description I have seen of them was rich kids LARPing as communists.   
The trustifarians don't seem to be the only ones that the left has been grooming.
The crowds in Ferguson and Baltimore seemed to do a pretty good job of tearing things up, likewise a few decades back in LA and Chicago.    The core that whips those demographics into a frenzy and set's them to destroying things and attacking people sure seems to be the Marxist left, and I wouldn't exactly consider those mobs paper tigers even if they can't explain Maxist theory. Sometimes quantity has a quality all of it's own.

Now I agree 100% that if the cops were allowed to stop any of them, Antifas and the Hands Up crowd et al, there would be no riots. 
The problem is that the cops weren't allowed to stop them, but I betcha that if they (the rioters)  met sizable moderately organized non-governmental resistance and fatalities resulted the second group would be demonized in the  press and pressure would be brought to bear to have the second group stopped and prosecuted. 

 
 
     
   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 15, 2017, 01:36:35 am
Well, regardless of the press, places where the police are actually free to enforce existing laws and the populace in general simply don't tolerate rioting, looting, burning and other lawlessness don't seem to be plagued by those types of things.   Seems to me that every one of the cities that experienced that were already liberal hell holes that have been liberal hellholes for generations.  Its like one of the old anti-gun control ads from years back:  "Guns cause crime like flies cause garbage."    :hmm   

There really is no substitute for law and order in a society.  It is the only reason government as we know it exists at all.  When the majority of a society's members no longer respect that principle that government fails and is replaced by something else. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 15, 2017, 03:29:59 am
Well, regardless of the press, places where the police are actually free to enforce existing laws and the populace in general simply don't tolerate rioting, looting, burning and other lawlessness don't seem to be plagued by those types of things.   Seems to me that every one of the cities that experienced that were already liberal hell holes that have been liberal hellholes for generations.  Its like one of the old anti-gun control ads from years back:  "Guns cause crime like flies cause garbage."    :hmm   

There really is no substitute for law and order in a society.  It is the only reason government as we know it exists at all.  When the majority of a society's members no longer respect that principle that government fails and is replaced by something else.
I agree.
What I do see is the left steadily working to erode that respect for law and order whenever said law and order hasn't been re-written or changed by judicial activism to support their agenda.       
In places where they've succeeded you see LE held back from enforcing the law or penalized (officially or unofficially) for enforcing it when the perps are forwarding the left's goals.    It's more obvious in places where they have had control for generations, but even in new areas* they seem to require LE to wear kid gloves when dealing with leftist rioters. I don't know if that's simply due to the hiring authority ordering a force that would prefer to be enforcing the law to not do so, or if those departments have been made to hire officers who are more in line with the left's goals.  Not picking on LEOs with that statement, but as much as I suspect the majority lean to the right moreso than the left I'm pretty sure there are some who sympathize or support the SWJ crowd. 
As far as an area's populace in general not tolerating it, that seems to impede the process a bit but every one of those liberal hellholes you made reference to were at one point in time NOT liberal hellholes.  At some point those who wouldn't tolerate such doings were either driven out economically or were made examples of by activist DA's and Judges. 


Now I don't say I foresee masses of people carrying Mao's Little Red Book and an AK down main street to take over  anytime in the near future, or that they could muster enough people with even the basic skills to make that a viable attempts.   What I do see is them being more than able to conduct a dirty little civil war more in line with what took pace in Argentina.   That incident yesterday?   Imagine that played out a few hundred or a few thousand times anywhere there are people gathered who don't agree with them.     That's something well within their abilities, and I don't see them as having any compunction of using that technique if they figure they can get away with it.  Sein Finn denied involvement with the IRA and a number of people seemed to have accepted that tall tale, no reason the left here couldn't or wouldn't do the same if they decide that's the new tack they want to follow.





*Anecdotal, but I've heard many of those departments are bleeding out good cops to departments in other areas.  It's go to suck when the hiring authority  will chuck you under the bus for doing your job fairly and impartially.

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 15, 2017, 01:48:31 pm
https://youtu.be/jGe5SDgsHtU

When physicists troll.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on June 15, 2017, 03:39:31 pm
The Marxist left are paper tigers for right now and into the foreseeable future. They are not starving or enduring hardships. There is no character building going on and forging them by fire into a hardened force to be reckoned with in any field.

The original Marxist revolutions happened among starving and suffering people.

The modern Marxists have ran at the first sight of any strong willed opposition. The antifa groups were halted from doing violence in multiple places by a mere handful of individuals willing to stand and fight. If cops were allowed to stop them. There would have been no riots.

The best description I have seen of them was rich kids LARPing as communists.   

Dead on. There's a universe of difference between starving Russian and Chinese peasants and the pampered Antifa clowns. The spin up to the Leninist and Maoist takeovers is heavy reading but essential to understand the jokes that are the modern, well fed American commies.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Raptor on June 15, 2017, 04:21:11 pm
Dead on. There's a universe of difference between starving Russian and Chinese peasants and the pampered Antifa clowns. The spin up to the Leninist and Maoist takeovers is heavy reading but essential to understand the jokes that are the modern, well fed American commies.

Damn right. Antifa and their ilk are cowards, plain and simple. Hence why they turn tail and run screaming back to Mommy every time they encounter even token resistance. And (probably) why their political supporters have been ordering the cops to disarm their opponents and then stand down. Repeated resistance, even a token amount, at each of their "protests" would likely break the movement completely.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 15, 2017, 11:49:30 pm
https://youtu.be/jGe5SDgsHtU

When physicists troll.
Sokal was essentially building on the work of Karl Popper in his landmark book, "The Logic of Scientific Discovery" .   The plain fact of the matter is that post modernists have been publishing reams of unmitigated crap for generations and are busily doing so even today. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 16, 2017, 10:17:29 am
https://youtu.be/4vFpbjTaEYs

Little boy dies from domestic abuse... Somehow woman is still the victim. These reporters piss me off. When being taught to screen children for signs of domestic abuse, they didn't tell us that the father was the biggest demographic most likely to perpetuate physical child abuse. They told us to look out for single, white mothers as the leading perpetrators. Not only that, they taught us that if she has several children she won't abuse all of them, rather focus on a single 'favourite' to abuse.

But no, I'm sure that the medical staff who taught me have it all wrong and the generalised narrative of "every ill in the world is men's fault, cos muh feminism" is completely above board  :bash.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 16, 2017, 11:10:25 am
http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have

Quote
Psychiatry News has a piece out this month about how men shouldn't be overlooked as victims of domestic violence, saying that:

Women are doing virtually everything these days that men are—working as doctors, lawyers, and rocket scientists; flying helicopters in combat; riding horses in the Kentucky Derby. And physically assaulting their spouses or partners.
According to a study of relationships that engage in nonreciprocal violence, a whopping 70% are perpetrated by women. So basically that means that girls are beating up their BFs and husbands and the dudes aren't fighting back. With Amy Winehouse busting open a can of whupass on her husband last week, we decided to conduct an informal survey of the Jezebels to see who's gotten violent with their men. After reviewing the answers, let's just say that it'd be wise to never ever fluff with us.

One Jezebel got into it with a dude while they were breaking up, while another Jez went nuts on her guy and began violently shoving him. One of your editors heard her boyfriend flirting on the phone with another girl, so she slapped the phone out of his hands and hit him in the face and neck... "partially open handed." Another editor slapped a guy when "he told me he thought he had breast cancer." (Okay, that one made us laugh really hard.) And lastly, one Jez punched a steady in the face and broke his glasses. He had discovered a sex story she was writing about another dude on her laptop, so he picked it up and threw it. And that's when she socked him. He was, uh, totally asking for it.


Apparently Paul Elam from 'a voice for men' read this and was infuriated by it. He fired off a satirical article in reply entitled "bash a violent b____ month" and then he was instantly labeled as being sexist with not another thought being given to the original jezebel article.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 16, 2017, 11:16:33 am
https://youtu.be/6dynbzMlCcw

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on June 16, 2017, 03:39:58 pm
http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have
 

Apparently Paul Elam from 'a voice for men' read this and was infuriated by it. He fired off a satirical article in reply entitled "bash a violent b____ month" and then he was instantly labeled as being sexist with not another thought being given to the original jezebel article.

I hold the privilege of being the first officer at my agency to dare to arrest a woman for domestic violence. I was roasted by the man haters at the women's advocacy shelter and they tried to have me fired. They asserted that a woman simply could not be the aggressor. That was back in 2000. The perp had worked her man over with a ball bat for cheating. An investigation was called for on me but stopped as soon as it was made clear that the statute was (and still is) gender neutral; it says "offender" and "victim," not "he" and "she." The magistrate was a woman that night and she agreed with me and signed the warrant. The irony is that the shelter director (long retired) is now a dear friend of mine and I'm now the primary domestic violence investigator for the tribe. And I do stay busy let me tell you. I'm in Asheville at the federal courthouse so often I'm learning the street people's names.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on June 16, 2017, 03:55:03 pm
Dead on. There's a universe of difference between starving Russian and Chinese peasants and the pampered Antifa clowns. The spin up to the Leninist and Maoist takeovers is heavy reading but essential to understand the jokes that are the modern, well fed American commies.

If you have not read The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. Then you, and every kid in school the world over, should.

It is by far the scariest damn book written IMO. The breakdown of the GULAG system and how systematic Marxism was applied is bone-chilling. That utopia the kids LARPing as commies thinks awaits them is not so pleasant.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Raptor on June 16, 2017, 06:27:10 pm
If you have not read The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. Then you, and every kid in school the world over, should.

It is by far the scariest damn book written IMO. The breakdown of the GULAG system and how systematic Marxism was applied is bone-chilling. That utopia the kids LARPing as commies thinks awaits them is not so pleasant.

Looks like only the single-volume Abridged version is currently in print (though apparently the abridging was authorized by Solzhenitsyn). And none of the 3 full volumes are available for Kindle owing to "significant quality issues with the source file supplied by the publisher."

It's probably been mentioned in this thread before, but another important read is "Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the Forgotten Age of Revolutionary Violence," by Bryan Burrough. It tells the general history of the leftist "revolutionary" cells in the mid 60s through the late 80s and a (regrettably brief) history and summary of activities of the significant groups of the era, the Weathermen/Weather Underground, Black Panthers, the SLA, the FALN, the Sam Melville/Jonathan Jackson Unit AKA United Freedom Front, etc.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 16, 2017, 10:52:12 pm
Bingo.  It is an excellent read and usually flies completely under the radar for the folks who most need to read it. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 17, 2017, 05:50:48 pm
https://youtu.be/7mkn3TI1Wm0

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 17, 2017, 10:31:11 pm
 :rotfl  .  .  .  arrested development as an art form.   :facepalm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 17, 2017, 10:50:04 pm
:rotfl  .  .  .  arrested development as an art form.   :facepalm

I'm pretty frustrated to see the advert for the TV show, but I feel you'll have to explain that one to me  :hmm.I'm not seeing much art here  ::).
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 17, 2017, 11:00:36 pm
Well, "art" is always in the eye of the beholder, no?   No doubt such a leading ( bleeding? ) edge program would be in line for some sort of award at the end of the season. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 17, 2017, 11:12:08 pm
Apparently Chris Ray Gun and Laci Green are now dating. The tumblrverse is imploding.

Zinnia Jones (gender analyst) and Steve Shives have felt personally betrayed, so Twitter has been blowing up as well.

https://youtu.be/j4xxoLlOl1o

https://youtu.be/MVWf08HffGs
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 17, 2017, 11:14:31 pm
Well, "art" is always in the eye of the beholder, no?   No doubt such a leading ( bleeding? ) edge program would be in line for some sort of award at the end of the season.

Well, they would be known for holding all of the, uh, talents... That every feminist is known for. Oppressing Olympics, virtue signaling, and outrage galore  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 21, 2017, 09:50:44 pm
https://youtu.be/bJ5sVZHds-I

https://youtu.be/D_IZelNheAA
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 21, 2017, 10:13:02 pm
https://youtu.be/8DL4Zo-Q6Dc

Same country, but a counter argument. Not sure who the woman is, but I may have to look her up.

Found her.

http://www.bettinaarndt.com.au/

It's crazy that Karen was on her site, that woman gets around  :cool. Forgot that she recently went to Oz. I'll also have to read the article about Hack, cos I've listened to that program a few times and liked it. In fact, despite knowing it's flaws, I frequently listen to a lot of what the ABC puts out.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: cpaspr on June 22, 2017, 03:36:34 pm
http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have

That article is 10 years old.  Just saying.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 22, 2017, 06:15:00 pm
That article is 10 years old.  Just saying.

And his original reply to it is also almost as old.

A decade is no time at all for an ideology. Needless to say, said ideology is just as harmful today as it was ten years ago.

I suppose I don't see what your point is  :shrug.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on June 22, 2017, 06:37:31 pm
That article is 10 years old.  Just saying.

The New Testament is more than 2K years old, doesn't stop folks from using it as a reference.  Just sayin'  :neener
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 22, 2017, 06:39:36 pm
The New Testament is more than 2K years old, doesn't stop folks from using it as a reference.  Just sayin'  :neener
You, sir, win +1000 Internets. :clap
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 22, 2017, 06:42:30 pm
The New Testament is more than 2K years old, doesn't stop folks from using it as a reference.  Just sayin'  :neener

 :rotfl  :thumbup2

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on June 22, 2017, 07:03:26 pm
The New Testament is more than 2K years old...
Technically just a shade less. :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 22, 2017, 07:40:05 pm
Technically just a shade less. :cool

Oh ok, never mind then. It's still good to be cited as a peer review reference then, it's recent enough  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 23, 2017, 11:24:47 am
https://youtu.be/zT2Y78TwCrw

fluffin' normies not helping us change the political tides  :banghead.

Reee! 🐸

 :neener
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 24, 2017, 09:26:58 am
https://youtu.be/6yvZPL6uCDc

Anita verbally abuses her audience that disagrees with her, censors questions, and then calls security because she feels "threatened" by someone who expresses a differing point of view.

Woman is crazier than Hitler's house cat...
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 24, 2017, 11:09:15 am
https://youtu.be/GICHv26wc3Y

SJW's seem to give the death penalty to apostates.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 25, 2017, 12:47:23 am
Yup.  Its the technological equivalent of sharia law.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 25, 2017, 09:46:34 am
https://youtu.be/wip3yRnpdds

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 25, 2017, 04:51:14 pm
Ok - you might want to be sitting down for this one .  .  .  but according to their definition, I'm not a feminist.  In fact, not only do I not agree with their definition but I don't have any idea where I'd go to find the kind of world they describe in the video.  What planet are these people from?   :scrutiny
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 25, 2017, 05:09:03 pm
Ok - you might want to be sitting down for this one .  .  .  but according to their definition, I'm not a feminist.  In fact, not only do I not agree with their definition but I don't have any idea where I'd go to find the kind of world they describe in the video.  What planet are these people from?   :scrutiny

Have you gotten the red pill yet?

I feel that whole movie puts this crap in it's place. That and Karen Straughan and Christina Hoff Sommers.

Forgive me for using a common MGTOW turn of phrase, but after I have watched Cassie Jaye's red pill I now see exactly how gynocentric our society is. Many things in Western civilisation seem to be an effort to limit the effort and hardship of women. It's just now that society is getting more luxurious and yes, softer, the complaints really are becoming absurd.

For example? #BanBossy
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 25, 2017, 05:43:25 pm
No-haven't gotten that yet but its on the list.   You are correct though - we have forgotten that we are standing on the shoulders of our ancestors and only thus have we enabled ourselves to take for granted the hard lessons of life and focus on the minutiae of the moment.

The universe at large not only doesn't give a sh&t about your gender or your politics, it hasn't even noticed that you exist.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 25, 2017, 05:55:09 pm
No-haven't gotten that yet but its on the list.   You are correct though - we have forgotten that we are standing on the shoulders of our ancestors and only thus have we enabled ourselves to take for granted the hard lessons of life and focus on the minutiae of the moment.

The universe at large not only doesn't give a sh&t about your gender or your politics, it hasn't even noticed that you exist.   :coffee

People were always getting ready for tomorrow. I didn't believe in that. Tomorrow wasn't getting ready for them. It didn't even know they were there. - Cormac McCarthy
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 26, 2017, 10:13:25 am
https://youtu.be/ziurppCPfEg

Jordan Peterson is pretty fired up in this one regarding the culture war of preserving western society from the current collective groups with Marxist undertones.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 26, 2017, 11:06:41 am
https://youtu.be/yGe7M_xIW3E

I typically dislike MGTOW, but this one made me laugh. He illuminated the hypocrisy too well.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on June 26, 2017, 11:30:34 am
Not related to the above videos, but one thing I am starting to see as common to the left, is their apparent disinterest in reproducing.  Two conversations I recently had with liberals reinforce this: The one is a 60 year old man with one son.  His son is in a years-long stable relationship with a live-in girlfriend, and when I asked his father if he had any plans to have children, the father was dismissive and indifferent to whether he did or not.  Whereas in generations past, a father would have some interest in seeing his line continue, this modern liberal could care less.

The other example is the company attorney, who is Very liberal. (He headed the local office of Obama's '08 campaign)  We were discussing various buildings near the courthouse, and one mentioned was the Family Court.  He told me that they were the ones to do paternity testing.  Fair enough, I mentioned that I would keep that in mind if I ever need a paternity test done... To which his dead-serious response was: "Just get a vasectomy, and you will never have to worry about it."  He has one daughter himself, who is a career woman, and may or may not ever get around to having a child.

In both cases, there is a complete lack of concern whether or not their only children ever reproduces.  Having only one child is okay...  For some it is the best choice, or maybe the only choice they have.  But if you are going to only have one, either they reproduce... or your line dies.  Liberals seem not to care. :shrug
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on June 26, 2017, 01:41:04 pm
Not related to the above videos, but one thing I am starting to see as common to the left, is their apparent disinterest in reproducing.  Two conversations I recently had with liberals reinforce this: The one is a 60 year old man with one son.  His son is in a years-long stable relationship with a live-in girlfriend, and when I asked his father if he had any plans to have children, the father was dismissive and indifferent to whether he did or not.  Whereas in generations past, a father would have some interest in seeing his line continue, this modern liberal could care less.

The other example is the company attorney, who is Very liberal. (He headed the local office of Obama's '08 campaign)  We were discussing various buildings near the courthouse, and one mentioned was the Family Court.  He told me that they were the ones to do paternity testing.  Fair enough, I mentioned that I would keep that in mind if I ever need a paternity test done... To which his dead-serious response was: "Just get a vasectomy, and you will never have to worry about it."  He has one daughter himself, who is a career woman, and may or may not ever get around to having a child.

In both cases, there is a complete lack of concern whether or not their only children ever reproduces.  Having only one child is okay...  For some it is the best choice, or maybe the only choice they have.  But if you are going to only have one, either they reproduce... or your line dies.  Liberals seem not to care. :shrug

Good. Maybe they will be bred out. My wife and I have 5 kids and would have had more if we hadn't waited 6 years until we were out of college. Had we started earlier we might have had 6 or 7 kids. No hippies in our clan either.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 26, 2017, 02:30:35 pm
Good. Maybe they will be bred out. My wife and I have 5 kids and would have had more if we hadn't waited 6 years until we were out of college. Had we started earlier we might have had 6 or 7 kids. No hippies in our clan either.

I didn't realise that you had so many! That's fantastic!  :thumbup2

I've read many articles saying that for some reason, whites have "bean pole" families.

I am in a bit of a pickle, as I want children really really badly, but I want the marriage laws to change. Dating and looking for Mrs. Right has become something of a life and death battle for men our age these days: you property, money, reputation, status, and your own children can all be taken from you or used against you in family courts.

I speak not from personal experience, but from the personal experience of men around me.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on June 26, 2017, 02:55:18 pm
Good. Maybe they will be bred out. My wife and I have 5 kids and would have had more if we hadn't waited 6 years until we were out of college. Had we started earlier we might have had 6 or 7 kids. No hippies in our clan either.
Good for you.  Though didn't you say the one girl was edging toward the Dark Side?  :P
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on June 26, 2017, 02:59:19 pm
I've read many articles saying that for some reason, whites have "bean pole" families.

I am in a bit of a pickle, as I want children really really badly, but I want the marriage laws to change. Dating and looking for Mrs. Right has become something of a life and death battle for men our age these days: you property, money, reputation, status, and your own children can all be taken from you or used against you in family courts.
That is because kids are inconvenient.  I see that in my sister, who is the only one of us to reproduce yet.  She want to do certain things with her life, but she willingly gave up a good, secure job to stay home with the kids. (third one shows next month)  Because motherhood is not just a calling, it is the highest calling for a woman.  It also makes her husband that much more valuable to her, because he is the sole breadwinner, the duty of a family man.  And I am not looking down to those who have a two income home - it's great.  But I think the separate-but-equal roles form a closer family bond, causing the ever-present possibility of a divorce to lessen.

And you just have to deal with the risk, or else not reproduce.  Your choice.  The family laws are not changing, if anything they will get worse.  MGTOWs do have some valid points... but all of their lines will die with them.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 26, 2017, 04:39:25 pm
I didn't realise that you had so many! That's fantastic!  :thumbup2

I've read many articles saying that for some reason, whites have "bean pole" families.

I am in a bit of a pickle, as I want children really really badly, but I want the marriage laws to change. Dating and looking for Mrs. Right has become something of a life and death battle for men our age these days: you property, money, reputation, status, and your own children can all be taken from you or used against you in family courts.

I speak not from personal experience, but from the personal experience of men around me.
I get you, and I totally understand.
Thank Goodness I have a wife (Asian) who fully supports traditional western values and wants us to have many children.   She wants to contribute to out income, but see's child rearing as her primary calling.

It's totally cultural, and it just seem that the well has been poisoned  in the US.      I don't care about my children's skin tone, I care about their mindset.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on June 26, 2017, 04:44:45 pm
It's totally cultural, and it just seem that the well has been poisoned  in the US.      I don't care about my children's skin tone, I care about their mindset.
I can't disagree.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 26, 2017, 05:10:55 pm
That is because kids are inconvenient.  I see that in my sister, who is the only one of us to reproduce yet.  She want to do certain things with her life, but she willingly gave up a good, secure job to stay home with the kids. (third one shows next month)  Because motherhood is not just a calling, it is the highest calling for a woman.  It also makes her husband that much more valuable to her, because he is the sole breadwinner, the duty of a family man.  And I am not looking down to those who have a two income home - it's great.  But I think the separate-but-equal roles form a closer family bond, causing the ever-present possibility of a divorce to lessen.

And you just have to deal with the risk, or else not reproduce.  Your choice.  The family laws are not changing, if anything they will get worse.  MGTOWs do have some valid points... but all of their lines will die with them.

I don't think it is that cut and dry. On my individual level, right now, yes that is what I am stuck with. However, after combing the internet for all of my SJW stuff, there are a hell of a lot of MGTOW's out there (regarding what I have italics). Funny thing is, women need men to reproduce as well. I think that there may be results directly because of the MGTOW movement, although I do not say this with any happiness as it is still a reactionary movement that is just about as bad as feminism

Quote
Marriage defined is a legally binding piece of paper. The legally binding terms of which would be decided[/defined], possibly by a third party, only at the time of its dissolution. And then that decision is enforced at the point of a gun. - Karen Straughan

Morally, I am not sure I could sign that contract. When all the benefits go to women and all of the burden and responsibility go to the man, if things don't work out. Hell, the very reason for such a divorce could be something as fickle as one spouses perception of 'satisfaction' or 'happiness', something which no one has control over.

Money can be replaced, but other things that are at stake such as professional licenses and the children being used as political weapons is unbearable.

I've seen/heard it with other men, but one of my really close friends had a repeat of the age old story of divorce: She cheated, she drained the mutual bank account which had 30k in it and immediately filed for divorce, and then she took the kid in the court battle when he didn't have a damn cent to fight her with thanks to her talking all of the money.

I have spent and continue to spend my time around women and I wish to continue to do so. In my opinion they make fantastic coworkers, friends, and they're even ok for family members ( :neener); but one has to tread carefully when the decision for matrimony comes knocking. Not every woman will eviscerate you in the courts, but every woman has the ability to. And the court system will not only cheer her on, but help her do it with the full backing of the law behind her. I liken it to urinating on an electric fence. The fence might be "on" or "off", it might not shock you or it might. But every one has the ability to shock you. So the real question is why would you go around trying your luck by urinating on electric fences in the first place?  ;)

There was a family lawyer of ours who said that "love is love, and business is business". The relationship is the love part and your money and belongings are the business part. There is no reason for your business/assets/belongings to leave you, just because your sweetie decides to.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on June 26, 2017, 05:55:34 pm
I liken it to urinating on an electric fence. The fence might be "on" or "off", it might not shock you or it might. But every one has the ability to shock you. So the real question is why would you go around trying your luck by urinating on electric fences in the first place?  ;)
The easiest way to explain it, is to say that if you already had a child of your own...  You would never be able to ask that question. :coffee

As for the rest, a pre-nup and separate bank accounts would head off most everything.  Or at least remove most of the leverage that she might try to use.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 26, 2017, 06:45:39 pm
The easiest way to explain it, is to say that if you already had a child of your own...  You would never be able to ask that question. :coffee

As for the rest, a pre-nup and separate bank accounts would head off most everything.  Or at least remove most of the leverage that she might try to use.

If I don't get to raise my own, then it may be even worse than never having had one in the first place.

Apparently prenups can get thrown out  :hmm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on June 26, 2017, 11:41:28 pm
If I don't get to raise my own, then it may be even worse than never having had one in the first place.

Apparently prenups can get thrown out  :hmm.

:( If defeatism is your attitude, then the 3GFs have already beaten you.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 26, 2017, 11:50:22 pm
:( If defeatism is your attitude, then the 3GFs have already beaten you.

Maybe so  :( .

It's just a lot to mull over.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 27, 2017, 01:35:43 am
Not going to wax overly philosophical here but IMO it's worth it.  Even if the wheels fall off.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 27, 2017, 03:56:18 am

I've read many articles saying that for some reason, whites have "bean pole" families.

1- Zero population growth, aka ZeePeeGee, was taught/preached during civics classes in public schools for many years.  The reason given was that we didn't want to increase our population and overtax our resources.*

2-r/K-selection.   We tend to see children as requiring a greater investment of resources, so we limit the number to what we believe when can provide for properly.







*So instead we let the rest of the world do it, and leave us with overtaxed resources AND outnumbered.  :banghead
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 27, 2017, 11:27:15 am
https://youtu.be/FSO4cIp8-NI

#mansitting

#gamergatedidnothingwrong
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on June 27, 2017, 01:58:49 pm
Good for you.  Though didn't you say the one girl was edging toward the Dark Side?  :P

Once she was but Julie and I finally got through to her although she still thinks I'm a racist misogynist hellbent on destroying Mother Earth LOL
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 28, 2017, 09:56:45 am
https://youtu.be/tyBfJuvopPg

She was permanently banned from the expo for having this opinion.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: ZeroTA on June 28, 2017, 06:04:59 pm
1- Zero population growth, aka ZeePeeGee, was taught/preached during civics classes in public schools for many years.  The reason given was that we didn't want to increase our population and overtax our resources.*

2-r/K-selection.   We tend to see children as requiring a greater investment of resources, so we limit the number to what we believe when can provide for properly.







*So instead we let the rest of the world do it, and leave us with overtaxed resources AND outnumbered.  :banghead

I only have one son, which it turns out we're lucky to have at all. Otherwise we'd probably have 3 or 4 at least. Just wasn't God's will. I can only suppose it's for the best, as multiple variants of my DNA would've spawned a race of supermen.

And marriage is fantastic. Just find the right woman. I had to go all the way to Texas for mine. Sharing the same core Christian values is huge (and not in a weird fundie way).



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Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: ZeroTA on June 28, 2017, 06:05:52 pm
Back somewhat on topic, this made me laugh today:

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Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 29, 2017, 10:42:58 am
https://youtu.be/m3FU4eIOH3A

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 29, 2017, 01:13:36 pm
https://youtu.be/AiVpBV3-FcE

Medically... This just pisses me off. It's disingenuous, it's clown shoes, and it's radicalised political correctness. We are doing a horrible disservice to the trans community, they need help as patients, not to have people reinforcing their delusions.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 29, 2017, 01:52:59 pm
https://youtu.be/AiVpBV3-FcE

Medically... This just pisses me off. It's disingenuous, it's clown shoes, and it's radicalised political correctness. We are doing a horrible disservice to the trans community, they need help as patients, not to have people reinforcing their delusions.
Wouldn't it be just fantastic if a huge number of biologic male athletes decided to identify as female and enter all the women's sports competitions?   
After all, if "if gender is a social construct, and fluid" then the athletes could identify as female just for a few days around the competition dates, then "decide" to identify as male again afterwards.  :coffee    See how long the whole charade of gender not being biologically determined holds up with the SJW crowd when CIS female athletes keep getting their collective asses handed to them.   >:D
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 29, 2017, 01:57:06 pm
Wouldn't it be just fantastic if a huge number of biologic male athletes decided to identify as female and enter all the women's sports competitions?   
After all, if "if gender is a social construct, and fluid" then the athletes could identify as female just for a few days around the competition dates, then "decide" to identify as male again afterwards.  :coffee    See how long the whole charade of gender not being biologically determined holds up with the SJW crowd when CIS female athletes keep getting their collective asses handed to them.   >:D

Trolling IRL? I love it!  >:D
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 29, 2017, 02:02:50 pm
Trolling IRL? I love it!  >:D
Of course trolling IRL.
You're talking with the guy who made sure to fry bacon everyday with the windows open during Ramadan in a country where fasting for Muslims is enforced by law. >:D


Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 29, 2017, 02:24:28 pm
Of course trolling IRL.
You're talking with the guy who made sure to fry bacon everyday with the windows open during Ramadan in a country where fasting for Muslims is enforced by law. >:D

 :o  :rotfl :panic

The only way you could have made it better is if you played Shadilay on loop out your window while cooking  :rotfl.

https://youtu.be/zAx0t3O55Zo
:dance

4Chan has trolled IRL turning the "ok" symbol into 'white power' and they are working on turning the peace sign into 'only two genders'. I swear, 4Chan is what the bible is referring to when it says that the meek shall inherit the earth. You have all of these nerdy basement dwellers working their meme magick and changing the face of the fluffing earth  :rotfl.

https://youtu.be/BNAkZKi4abc
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on June 30, 2017, 12:32:15 am
Of course trolling IRL.
You're talking with the guy who made sure to fry bacon everyday with the windows open during Ramadan in a country where fasting for Muslims is enforced by law. >:D



One of these days I'm going to have to buy you a beer.    :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on June 30, 2017, 11:12:55 am
https://youtu.be/9lELfFoWFfA

Oh goodness  :facepalm. Rage decided to discuss race... I'll watch the s___storm unfold, but I'll keep my opinion to myself for now.

https://youtu.be/CfdJF1o5Soo

She hasn't gone unchallenged in her opinions though, from our side. So at least dialogue is occurring.

The topic of race is very inflammatory and it is also a central part to the SJW movement.

https://youtu.be/fX5xyqA5-XY

https://youtu.be/TlhIUIVtccY

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on June 30, 2017, 01:40:27 pm
All of the myriad of SJW idiot causes out there reminded me of this quote which I think sums up quite nicely what we are seeing..

“The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a ‘warm body’ democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens… which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it… which for the majority translates as ‘Bread and Circuses.’

‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader—the barbarians enter Rome.”

― Robert A. Heinlein
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 01, 2017, 11:52:43 am
https://youtu.be/2VupEC0cAWo

Karen discusses and explains benevolent sexism. I've watched the whole thing and thought it was pretty good, just like all her stuff. If you're pressed for time, I feel the highlights are around the 17 or 18 minute mark.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on July 01, 2017, 08:41:08 pm
I only have one son, which it turns out we're lucky to have at all. Otherwise we'd probably have 3 or 4 at least. Just wasn't God's will. I can only suppose it's for the best, as multiple variants of my DNA would've spawned a race of supermen.

And marriage is fantastic. Just find the right woman. I had to go all the way to Texas for mine. Sharing the same core Christian values is huge (and not in a weird fundie way).



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My oldest daughter encountered some exasperated fellow students and one professor who couldn't believe she was the oldest of five kids. One asked her, "Five kids? Who does that anymore?" Apparently we are devouring resources and ushering in the Apocalypse.

If we hadn't waited the 6 years it took the two of us to graduate college before we started a family, we would have had more. And I can't imagine life without any one of the five. They are everything I should have been.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 01, 2017, 09:44:53 pm
My oldest daughter encountered some exasperated fellow students and one professor who couldn't believe she was the oldest of five kids. One asked her, "Five kids? Who does that anymore?" Apparently we are devouring resources and ushering in the Apocalypse.

If we hadn't waited the 6 years it took the two of us to graduate college before we started a family, we would have had more. And I can't imagine life without any one of the five. They are everything I should have been.

 :thumbup1 Sounds like your fulfilling the parental role pretty well then  :cool.

I'm not sure why that professor felt the need to inform you about how many children you should/shouldn't have. Besides, the jokes in him, the apocalypse is going to be  zombies, duh.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: sarge712 on July 02, 2017, 12:47:23 am
:thumbup1 Sounds like your fulfilling the parental role pretty well then  :cool.

I'm not sure why that professor felt the need to inform you about how many children you should/shouldn't have. Besides, the jokes in him, the apocalypse is going to be  zombies, duh.


Thank you sir. That means a lot
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 02, 2017, 01:12:29 am
Thank you sir. That means a lot

Not a problem :hat .
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 02, 2017, 03:14:19 pm
https://youtu.be/2g3xtaJ5604

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 02, 2017, 05:50:31 pm
https://youtu.be/cH-Tvt_a14k

I disagree with the above commentator. You should never underestimate someone who claims to be at war with you. We have seen enough of them to know that they gather in mass like vermin and then wreak havoc (I believe that I have posted the video of the guy who got hit with the bike lock).

If there are 100 rats gathered and they each only have the guts or the ability to take one nibble out of you, you'll still be eaten down to the bone.

We preach it all the time here: Mindset. Skill set. Tool set.
If the right mindset can work in the good guys favour despite a lack of training or skills, then it works for aggressors as well. We have watched Antifa slowly workup to the boiling point and I fear that soon they will want blood, assuming that they aren't already at that point now.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 02, 2017, 06:08:38 pm
I don't recall Granddad's "let's fight the Nazi's" recruitment videos in the service being like this  :shocked.

https://youtu.be/oJ1eZqenaDw


Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: TommyGunn on July 02, 2017, 11:37:27 pm
What the *BLEEEEP*  was that?   ---And how does it self-identify? :neener :confused :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 02, 2017, 11:51:52 pm
What the *BLEEEEP*  was that?   ---And how does it self-identify? :neener :confused :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

It'll be the second green Tuesday of the week in hell before I allow myself to be intimidated by a commie in a dress  :rotfl.

The latest 'domestic' threat to our American freedoms has gotten strange...  :shocked.

You just can't make this s___ up  :facepalm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: wyatt on July 03, 2017, 01:49:13 am
Even a freak in a dress can set off an IED or drive a car into a crowd.  :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 04, 2017, 03:52:23 pm
https://youtu.be/MbiAHnjHlHg

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Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 04, 2017, 06:35:10 pm
https://medusamagazine.com/beyond-pro-choice-the-solution-to-white-supremacy-is-white-abortion

Got some daily cancer for y'all today  :facepalm.

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Beyond Pro-Choice: The Solution to White Supremacy is White Abortion
 June 21, 2017 Nicole Valentine america, privilege, pro choice, pro future, racism, trump, white privilege, white women, women's rights

In a progressive society, it is often white families that stand in the way of equality and justice. Systemic white supremacy depends, first and foremost, on the white family unit. When white conquerors forcefully penetrated the indigenous, egalitarian homeland of the Native peoples of America, they were quick to replicate their white societies, initiating their parasitism by establishing white plantations, headed by white fathers, submissive white mothers, and, most critically, white children, with full dominion over the enslaved and oppressed people of color that were forced to uphold these micro-fiefdoms.

It is no surprise, then, that America’s fascination with the white family unit has gone hand-in-hand with the historical proliferation of white supremacy. After Bacon’s Rebellion, white micro-fieftans thought it necessary to expand the definition of white family to encompass the entirety of white society, so as to coerce the working class to fight amongst itself based on racial lines. Whites are embedded from birth with the sense of common white identity, and this identity conditions them to replicate the white family unit, thus furthering the cycle of white supremacy in America. That is why the white family unit must be destroyed.

In 1973, the Supreme Court, consisting entirely of men, eight of whom were white, ruled that the termination of pregnancy was constitutional up until the third trimester. For decades, progressives have championed this decision as a victory for the cause of women’s rights. However, it is time we challenge this problematic notion.

First of all, it is critical to understand that the appeal to abortions being “Constitutional” reinforces white supremacy. There is no way around it. The Constitution was drafted and signed by white men, for white men. Slavery was Constitutional. The “right” to terrorize citizens through the bearing of arms is Constitutional. So-called “due process,” in which white juries condone the murder of innocent black men, is a Constitutional process. Being Constitutional does not make something progressive or innately valuable. In fact, Constitutionality is often synonymous with “exclusively beneficial to the white race.”

Second, the notion of “choice” in abortion is inherently white supremacist and ableist. Women of color do not often have the same privilege to choose termination as do white women. For social, religious, economic, and ethical reasons, women of color may experience roadblocks on the path to body autonomy that white women would never be forced to confront due to their privilege of being born in a white supremacist society that continually looks out for their needs. Under present circumstances, women of color simply do not have the absolute choice when it comes to their bodies. It is time to stop pretending that they stand on equal footing with white women, when it has been proven that the embedded systems of white supremacy do not act impartially to all women. Because white supremacy prevents women of color from their freedom to choose, we must level the playing field by other means.

White women: it is time to do your part! Your white children reinforce the white supremacist society that benefits you. If you claim to be progressive, and yet willingly birth white children by your own choice, you are a hypocrite. White women should be encouraged to abort their white children, and to use their freed-up time and resources to assist women of color who have no other choice but to raise their children. Women of color are in need of financial and humanitarian resources. As this white supremacist society continues to imprison black fathers, women of color are forced to stand alone in their plight to raise the next generation of Americans. White women: instead of devoting your time and energy to white children who will reinforce the struggles of women of color, how about asking women of color in what ways you can assist them in their self-liberation? How about adopting children of color who have lost their parents to the destructive white supremacist society that you have enabled and encouraged?

Of course, the best choice is to act preventatively to ensure that white children are not at risk of being born. But in circumstances in which termination and generation are the options, it is best to take advantage of your right to choose, and abort in favor of assisting women of color.

It is time to move beyond “pro-choice” and start focusing on the needs of women of color. It is time for white women to stop considering only their own comfort and ambitions when choosing to raise children. We have entered an era of “pro-future,” in which white supremacy is crushed, and children of all colors are free to live in an open and welcoming society. Being pro-future is the next step in women’s liberation. Do your part, white women: end white supremacy.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 04, 2017, 07:01:06 pm
 :scrutiny

That has to be satire.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 04, 2017, 07:40:54 pm
:scrutiny

That has to be satire.

I'd tell you to check the link, but don't. To the best of my knowledge, it's legitimate.

ETA: This might be a very dry humoured s___ posting site. Further looking and now I'm not sure. The sexist air conditioning was not a hoax, so...

You know these people are fluffed up when I'm having difficulty deciding how plausible the above opinion is.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 05, 2017, 12:40:50 am
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-30/bilnd-recruitment-trial-to-improve-gender-equality-failing-study/8664888?pfmredir=sm

I'm actually a little disappointed by the results of this study. I know some really industrious female workers and I can't imagine why some women wouldn't measure up.

Quote
Blind recruitment trial to boost gender equality making things worse, study reveals
BY POLITICAL REPORTER HENRY BELOT
UPDATED THU AT 7:49PM

A measure aimed at boosting female employment in the workforce may actually be making it worse, a major study has found.

Key points:
Public service leaders are being told to "hit pause" on blind recruitment trials
The measure was aimed at boosting female employment by removing indications of gender from job applications
Professor Michael Hiscox, the academic who oversaw the trial, says results have shown "the opposite" and is urging caution
Leaders of the Australian public service will today be told to "hit pause" on blind recruitment trials, which many believed would increase the number of women in senior positions.

Blind recruitment means recruiters cannot tell the gender of candidates because those details are removed from applications.

It is seen as an alternative to gender quotas and has also been embraced by Deloitte, Ernst & Young, Victoria Police and Westpac Bank.

In a bid to eliminate sexism, thousands of public servants have been told to pick recruits who have had all mention of their gender and ethnic background stripped from their CVs.

The assumption behind the trial is that management will hire more women when they can only consider the professional merits of candidates.

Their choices have been monitored by behavioural economists in the Prime Minister's department — colloquially known as "the nudge unit".

Professor Michael Hiscox, a Harvard academic who oversaw the trial, said he was shocked by the results and has urged caution.

"We anticipated this would have a positive impact on diversity — making it more likely that female candidates and those from ethnic minorities are selected for the shortlist," he said.

"We found the opposite, that de-identifying candidates reduced the likelihood of women being selected for the shortlist."
The trial found assigning a male name to a candidate made them 3.2 per cent less likely to get a job interview.

Adding a woman's name to a CV made the candidate 2.9 per cent more likely to get a foot in the door.

"We should hit pause and be very cautious about introducing this as a way of improving diversity, as it can have the opposite effect," Professor Hiscox said.

New findings throw other trials into doubt
The landmark study throws doubt on several trials launched by state Government's and individual departments.

Last year, the Australia Bureau of Statistics doubled its proportion of female bosses by using blind recruitment.

Professor Hiscox said he discussed the trial with the ABS and did not consider it a rigorous or randomised control trial, warning against any "magic pill" solution.

He was also keen to point out the public service has a long way to go on gender equality, saying attention should now turn to creating more flexible working conditions and training.

Men continue to outnumber women at senior ranks of the public service, despite vastly outnumbering men at the rank-and-file level.

"There has been a lot of effort made to improving diversity in the public servants and the subjects of our trial were fairly senior," Professor Hiscox said.

"This project shows the status quo at the moment is to be supportive of hiring more women in the public service."

POSTED THU AT 2:15PM
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 05, 2017, 03:03:31 am
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-30/bilnd-recruitment-trial-to-improve-gender-equality-failing-study/8664888?pfmredir=sm

I'm actually a little disappointed by the results of this study. I know some really industrious female workers and I can't imagine why some women wouldn't measure up.
The issue is not 'some' women, it is the women who applied, on average.  That is to say, that while some females are perfectly qualified to do their jobs, the results of this study indicate that the average qualifications that they bring are not quite up to the level of the average mens' qualifications. 

This is my surprised face.  :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 05, 2017, 05:00:58 am
While I'm sure it doesn't surprise anyone following this thread, the fact that they value having a "properly diverse" workplace more than they value having the best candidates filling the vacancies is much more disappointing to me that the under performance of female candidates in this gender and ethnicity blind hiring process. 

If there were no indications of gender or ethnic background on any of the documents then the only criteria on which they made the decisions would be performance and qualifications...thus the candidate with the best qualifications and performance record  gets the job.   Their cry to "hit pause" on this makes it rather obvious that they weren't concerned with the hiring process being fair, they were looking to find a way to favor women and minorities that they could claim was fair.  When it didn't get the results they wanted they called a halt to it. 

When your experiment provides data proving your hypotheses wrong you're supposed to junk the hypothesis NOT the experiment and the resulting data.   These people are bad at science and bad at logic.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 05, 2017, 09:57:39 pm
https://youtu.be/paVpEhvjBx8

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 06, 2017, 09:29:07 am
https://youtu.be/bEK3ya4hN2Y

How does CNN get away with this stuff?

I have a feeling that they just started another meme war. Tell the people of the internet who they can and can't poke fun at and all of a sudden you become the butt of every joke.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 06, 2017, 10:48:08 am
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/05/the-bravery-it-took-cnn-to-track-down-a-private-citizen-cant-be-overstated/

Another meme war is coming. If the pinnacle of SJW behaviour is to never engage in dialogue, to consider mere disagreement to be violence, and to consider having the wrong opinion as grounds for taking someone's job, privacy, money, livelihood, and as a justification for full on harassment... Then it's time to meme. If they won't discuss things like adults, then the internet will make fun of them like children.

I did a brief search this morning and there is outlash from the above, reddit, and the chans. Not only are memes going around, but lists of all of CNN's advertisers, so that people can protest with their voice and dollar. I'm curious to see what's going to happen, as the trolling mobile task forces are let loose. And here CNN didn't want to be made fun of  :rotfl.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 06, 2017, 02:34:32 pm
https://youtu.be/SYgN20S_Tjs

CNN's gonna have to dox a heap of a lot of people if they intend on bullying everyone  :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl.

Watching this whole thing unfold and spread from 4chan to reddit, and then all social media has me like:

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Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 06, 2017, 05:54:15 pm
I couldn't make all of the links come out as pretty as I would have liked.

http://honeybadgerbrigade.com/2017/07/06/did-andrew-kaczynski-violate-federal-stalking-law-by-demonizing-a-redditor-and-then-threatening-to-exposes-his-identity/

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Did Andrew Kaczynski violate federal stalking law by demonizing a redditor and then threatening to expose his identity?

Consider Section 2261A of title 18
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, United States Code- Stalking against the article in which CNN threatened to expose the identity of
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a redditor credited with the creation of the WWE meme to which the organization took exception.
Whoever—
(1) travels in interstate or foreign commerce or is present within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or enters or leaves Indian country, with the intent to kill, injure, harass, intimidate, or place under surveillance with intent to kill, injure, harass, or intimidate another person, and in the course of, or as a result of, such travel or presence engages in conduct that—
A) places that person in reasonable fear of the death of, or serious bodily injury to—
 i) that person;
(ii) an immediate family member (as defined in section 115) of that person; or
iii) a spouse or intimate partner of that person; or
 
B) causes, attempts to cause, or would be reasonably expected to cause substantial emotional distress to a person described in clause (i), (ii), or (iii) of subparagraph (A); or
 
2) with the intent to kill, injure, harass, intimidate, or place under surveillance with intent to kill, injure, harass, or intimidate another person, uses the mail, any interactive computer service or electronic communication service or electronic communication system of interstate commerce, or any other facility of interstate or foreign commerce to engage in a course of conduct that—
 
A) places that person in reasonable fear of the death of or serious bodily injury to a person described in clause (i), (ii), or (iii) of paragraph (1)(A); or
 
B) causes, attempts to cause, or would be reasonably expected to cause substantial emotional distress to a person described in clause (i), (ii), or (iii) of paragraph (1)(A),
shall be punished as provided in section 2261(b) of this title.
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Let’s start with location:
CNN is an American company and the article’s writer Andrew Kaczynski’s twitter profile
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and his profile on Buzzfeed
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both identify him as a New Yorker. That satisfies “is present within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States.” The article was published online, which satisfies the “uses any interactive computer service or electronic communication service” element. 

In Andrew Kaczynski’s article, “How CNN found the Reddit user behind the Trump wrestling GIF,” he clearly states that CNN staff took time and effort combing through redditor Hana______Solo’s social network posts to obtain his personally identifying information and then contacted him, after which the he posted an extensive apology on reddit.

“The Reddit user who initially claimed credit for President Donald Trump’s tweet that showed Trump tackling CNN issued an apology Tuesday for the video and other offensive content he posted — one day after CNN identified the man behind the account and attempted to make contact with him.”
Whatever was communicated to redditor Hana______Solo during that contact inspired him to write an extensive, self-flagellating public apology and publish it on a forum where the meme in question wouldn’t have elicited outrage, but more likely praise. This raises reasonable suspicion that he did experience substantial emotional distress; particularly, fear.
This in and of itself could possibly satisfy the “…engages in conduct that causes, attempts to cause, or would be reasonably expected to cause substantial emotional distress to that person, an immediate family member of that person, or a spouse or intimate partner of that person.)” element, depending on what was said in that communication and whether or not the apology was, in fact, written in fear rather than remorse.
Kaczynski also made a point to state, rather vaguely, that his target’s other posts “included racist and anti-Semitic imagery.” This is after an organization called “The Committee to Protect Journalists” released a statement that President Trump’s tweet of the GIF in question “undermines the work of the media in the U.S. and makes it more dangerous,” a detail Kaczynski included in his article, along with the statement that “CNN said in a statement that the tweet “encourages violence against reporters.”‘ With this, Kaczynski has painted Hana______Solo as a racist, hateful inciter of violence against individuals associated with an organization valued by the “progressive” left.
That representation of the situation and the GIF’s creator does not exist in a vacuum.
It exists in an environment in which, to date, there is no incident which could be cited to support Andrew Kaczynski’s hysterical reaction to the GIF tweeted by President Trump. However, various factions within the “progressive” left have responded violently to various factors they oppose. Antifa, ineffective as they are, has rioted, vandalized property, and assaulted people as an expression of their opposition to libertarian and conservative activism and speech
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. We’ve seen Black Lives Matter chant their desire for “dead cops now.” 
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Threats have been made against numerous Republican civil servants
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, and a Bernie Sanders supporter took a gun to a baseball practice and shot Congressional Representative Steve Scalise last month
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, leaving behind a kill list with several names. In March, The Hill’s Capitol blog had an article
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by Kristin Tate
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describing numerous threats, including some from celebrities and some that have been investigated as credible, which had been hurled at President Trump from the left. Claims that the president is racist are one of the left’s loudest complaints.
In addition, a few years ago the site the GIF originated on, reddit.com, was embroiled (http://archive.is/Fokmh) in a controversy (http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-censorship/anatomy-of-a-manufactured-controversy/) over the publication of another redditor‘s (http://i.imgur.com/0UoxR.png) personally identifying information by tabloid-trash site Gawker.com after demonizing him as a facilitator of the publication of “sexualized images” of women. As a result of Gawker’s articles, this individual’s employer was contacted by numerous people and heckled into firing him.

Those details establish an environment in which publicly identifying an individual while simultaneously characterizing him as someone progressives would or should oppose could reasonably elicit in said individual a fear of being targeted for retribution which could include targeting his workplace to get him fired, and even violence against him or his family.
This certainly appears to satisfy the “…engages in conduct that places that person in reasonable fear of the death of, or serious bodily injury to that person, an immediate family member of that person, or a spouse or intimate partner of that person, or causes, attempts to cause, or would be reasonably expected to cause substantial emotional distress to (any of the aforementioned people.)” element.
The final elements of this is the wording of that threat:
“CNN is not publishing “HanA**holeSolo’s” name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.
CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.”

This clearly links Kaczynski’s threat to an order to Hana______Solo to comply with the way Kaczynski thinks he should behave online. There is no other way to read that besides “Behave yourself, or I’ll release your identity and sic the public on you.”

That satisfies the “intent to intimidate” element and likely the “intent to place under surveillance with intent to intimidate.” element, as well, since the “should any of that change” part of the statement implies that CNN’s staff will be watching to see if it does.

So… Andrew Kaczynski was present in the United States and engaged in a course of conduct which resulted in the individual behaving in a manner indicative of substantial emotional distress… then after seeing that response (established by the fact that he publicly documented it,) with intent to intimidate, Kaczynski engaged in further action which may have placed his target in reasonable fear of the death or serious bodily injury, and would be reasonably expected to cause him substantial emotional distress. Kaczynski followed that up with a statement which could be reasonably understood to indicate intent to place his target under surveillance with intent to intimidate him.

Is that a violation of the United States’ federal anti-stalking law?”

Possibly, maybe even probably. A more solid conclusion could be reached given the details of the communication Hana______Solo received from CNN, something that will probably not be made public. While it can be speculated that the apology appeared to be inspired by fear, it would take the details of that conversation to be sure. However, even if it were to turn out that the conversation had nothing in it which would seem intended to intimidate, Mr. Kaczynski’s implied threat to publish his target’s identity, should he repeat his “ugly behavior on social media,” is still pretty damning. I would not want to be the author of Mr. Kaczynski’s article should its target choose to pursue charges.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 06, 2017, 09:54:10 pm
You are correct.  You can't make this stuff up.  And it couldn't happen to a more richly deserving bunch than CNN.   :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 06, 2017, 10:23:14 pm
You are correct.  You can't make this stuff up.  And it couldn't happen to a more richly deserving bunch than CNN.   :thumbup1

Was wondering where you were at, it's been a while since we've seen you in these parts  ;).

We've had racism, commies in dresses, sexist meritocracy, and 6 year old little girls in the form of 50 year old divorced men since you've been gone  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 06, 2017, 10:32:00 pm
Yeah, I been catching up.   :facepalm    We've had some other stuff competing for my attention the last few days but I hope to be around a bit more often now. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 06, 2017, 11:32:27 pm
Yeah, I been catching up.   :facepalm    We've had some other stuff competing for my attention the last few days but I hope to be around a bit more often now.

Hope all is well, sir. Carry on  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 06, 2017, 11:36:09 pm
It'll all get sorted eventually.  Some days you get to drink from the water fountain and other days you get the fire hose.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 06, 2017, 11:39:20 pm
Someone out there with far better computer skills than I needs to do some meme making using the CNN logo and some of the anti-cyber bullying material of the SJW crowd...CNN playing the role of the bully, of course. >:D
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 06, 2017, 11:57:40 pm
Someone out there with far better computer skills than I needs to do some meme making using the CNN logo and some of the anti-cyber bullying material of the SJW crowd...CNN playing the role of the bully, of course. >:D

There are meme generators out there. I used to make a couple of memes but my meme magick is weak  :-[.

I'm certain we have at least one or two that are techy enough to assist us. What material do you have in mind?

It took me a second to figure out what that third one was. It's from the first Jurassic park. It's two pepe raptors a lookin' for a scared CNN in the kitchen  :rotfl. I have been reading /pol/ today and they are pretty pissed about the whole attack on freedom of speech. They're gonna get /b/ involved and then the shenanigans will really ensue.

Remember gentleman, the ends justify the memes  ;).
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 07, 2017, 12:33:00 am
Here is a list of their advertisers.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4y3rpg/has_anyone_compiled_a_list_of_cnn_advertisers/

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CNN Headline News Advertisers (as of 2008)
HEC Paris MBA Program http://www.mba.hec.edu/mba/site/the_mba_that_builds_character.2.html
Phone Number - France numbers only listed on web site
JK Harris and Company http://www.jkharris.com/?ml_source=networkcable
Phone Number - 800-556-9795
AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals http://www.astrazeneca-us.com/
Phone - 800-236-9933
E-Trade https://us.etrade.com/e/t/home
Phone - 800-387-2331
Monex Precious Metals http://monex.com/
Phone - 800-444-8317
Sprint / Nextel http://www.sprint.com/index.html?brand=Nextel
Sprint customers – call 1-888-211-4727 Nextel customers – call 1-800-639-6111
Select Quote http://www.selectquote.com/home2/homepage.html
Phone 800-777-8300
Wells Fargo https://www.wellsfargo.com/
Phone 800-869-3557
AARP http://www.aarp.org/
Phone - 888-687-2277
Philips / Norelco http://www.usa.philips.com/index.page Phone - (212) 850-5000 Scott M. Weisenhoff CEO Philips Electronics North America email [email protected] http://www.subaru.com/tools/contactus/index.jsp
Phone - 1-800-782-2783
Geico http://www.geico.com/about/contactus/
Phone - 800-861-8380
Boston Market http://www.bostonmarket.com/contacts
Phone - 800-365-7000
Overstock.com https://help.overstock.com/cgi-bin/overstock.cfg/php/enduser/contact_page.php?searchtype=HP_Header&keywords=contact
Phone 800-843-2446
Liberty Medical http://www.libertymedical.com/diabetes/contact-us/default.aspx?sem-lander-3
Phone 800-970-4831
Live Well Financial http://www.livewellfinancial.com/?gclid=CLTTo4eC5JYCFRlRagodaiF_Ow
Phone – 800-917-1170
American Coalition for Clean Coal http://www.americaspower.org/Contact-Us
Phone – 877-358-6699
University of Phoenix http://yourphoenixdegree.com/010/ Partnership for Prescription Assistance https://www.pparx.org/Intro.php
Phone - 888-477-2669
Ehealth Insurance Services http://www.ehealthinsurance.com/
Phone – 800-977-8860
Dodge http://www.dodge.com/webselfservice/dodge/index.jsp?screenName=recall
Phone - 1-800-853-1403
Hyundai http://www.hyundaiusa.com/global/contactus/main.aspx
Phone – 800-633-5151
Jos A Banks Clothiers http://www.josbank.com/customer_service_main.tem
Phone – 800-999-7472 or 800-285-2265
Career Builder.com http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/aboutus/pr_main.aspx
Toll Free: (800) 638-4212
Zurich Financial Services http://www.zurich.com/main/services/contact/generalcontact.htm
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Johnson and Johnson https://secure-www.jnj.com/wps/wcm/jsp/contactUs.jsp
Phone – 732-524-0400
US Home Auction http://www.ushomeauction.com/
Phone – 800-793-6107
Cisco http://www.cisco.com/web/siteassets/contacts/index.html
Phone – 800-553-6387 or 408-526-4000
Exxon Mobil http://www.exxonmobil.com/SiteFlow/SuppInfo/Contacts/SF_CT_BusHeadquarters.asp
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Jitterbug http://www.jitterbug.com/ContactUs/
Phone – 800-918-8543

Also might not be a bad idea to download the CNN app and give it a one star then delete that s___ off of your phone  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 07, 2017, 12:42:31 am
You'll know we're having an effect when CNN is no longer the default setting for television screens in public places like airports.  :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 10, 2017, 03:52:35 pm
https://youtu.be/derHRFGZ4NU 

 :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 10, 2017, 07:38:12 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/04/shortage-eligible-men-has-left-women-taking-desperate-steps/

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Shortage of eligible men has left women taking desperate steps to preserve their fertility, experts say

Laura Donnelly, Health Editor
4 July 2017 • 10:00pm


A dearth of marriagable men has left an “oversupply” of educated women taking desperate steps to preserve their fertility, experts say.
The first global study into egg freezing found that shortages of eligible men were the prime reason why women had attempted to take matters into their own hands.
Experts said “terrifying” demographic shifts had created a “deficit” of educated men and a growing problem of “leftover” professional women, with female graduates vastly outnumbering males in in many countries.
The study led by Yale University, involved interviews with 150 women undergoing egg freezing at eight clinics.
Researchers found that in more than 90 per cent of cases, the women were attempting to buy extra time because they could not find a partner to settle down with, amid a “dearth of educated men”.
Experts said the research bust the myth that “selfish career women” were choosing to out their fertility on ice in a bid to put their careers first.
They said sweeping social changes meant that many professional women now struggled to find a partner that felt like an equal match.
In recent decades, the gender balance at British universities has tipped dramatically.
In 1985, 45 per cent of UK students were female, but by 2000, 54 per cent were women.
This group, now in their late 30s, is finding it harder to find a man of equal status, fertility experts said. And the trend is set to steepen in future generations, they warned, with nearly six in ten current students female.
The research, presented at the European Society for Human Reproduction and Embryology conference in Geneva, was based on detailed interviews with women in the United States, and Israel. But the lead author said similar trends were likely in the UK, where women are 35 per cent more likely than men to go to university.
Prof Marcia Inhorn, Professor of Anthopolgy at Yale University, said professional women found themselves losing out in a game of “musical chairs” because there were simply too few men of the same calibre to go around.
“There is a major gap - they are literally missing men. There are not enough college graduates for them. In simple terms, this is about an oversupply of educated women,” she said.
“In China they call them ‘left over women’. It sounds cold and callous but in demographic terms this is about missing men and left over women.”
The former President of the Society for Medical Anthropology said the women interviewed in the study were highly successful, with 81 per cent having a college degree.
“These are highly educated, very successful women and one after another they were saying they couldn’t find a partner. How could it be that all these amazing, attractive intelligent women were lamenting about their ability to find a partner?” she said.
“The answer comes in the demographics - growing disparities in the education levels of men and women.
The anthropologist suggested some women might need to be prepared to compromise some of their standards in order to find love. But she suggested society should act to increase the number of men going into higher education.
“It may be about rethinking the way we approach this,” she said.
“Most women who are educated would like to have an educated partner. Traditionally women have also wanted to ‘marry up’ to go for someone more successful, financially well off.”
“Maybe women need to be prepared to be more open to the idea of a relationship with someone not as educated. But also may be we need to be doing something about our boys and young men, to get them off to a better start.”
Some women were paying a high price for feminism, she suggested.
“As a feminist I think it’s great that women are doing so well but I think there has been a cost that has been paid,” she said, warning that many had been left in “sadness and isolation”.
In some cases, the women taking part in the in-depth interviews said they would be happy to be in a relationship with someone less educated, but they felt they were “intimidating” to the men who were available.
Researchers said that until now, many commentators on egg freezing had assumed that it was being driven by a desire to preserve fertilty, while rising up the career ladder.
“I think this is an issue that has been misinterpreted so much - this idea of a selfish career woman, putting her fertility on hold,” said Prof Inhorn.
Professor Geeta Nargund, medical director of UK clinics Create Fertility, said: “It is something to celebrate that more women are going to university and getting educated but, at the same time, when it comes to starting a family it seems there is now a societal problem with these women finding men at the same level of education.
“Women tell us frequently that they are freezing their eggs because the men they meet feel threatened by their success and so unwilling to commit to starting a family together.”
Prof Adam Balen, President of the British Fertility Society, said: “We are seeing some big societal issues, in particular in some social economic groups, with young men not committing.”
One in five women in the UK is now childless by the end of their fertile life - compared to one in 10 a generation before, he said.
Last year less than 105,000 male 18-year-olds started university, compared with almost 135,000 females, UCAS figures show, with more women than men on two-thirds of courses.
The gender gap for higher education is now as large as that between rich and poor people, which was described as a “worrying inequality” by former UCAS chief executive Mary Curnock-Cook.
British fertility experts said the gulf was "terrifying". Dr Gillian Lockwood, executive director, IVI said: "It exacerbates the problem of men not wanting to 'settle down' and start a family until it's almost too late for the woman to conceive naturally.
And if she insists, he's quite likely to leave for a younger woman whose biological clock isn't ticking quite so loudly."
Her own survey of women doing “social” egg freezing found the overwhelming majority of women having their eggs frozen were doing so because they could not find a partner, or because their own partner would not commit.
Typically, it costs around £10,000 to freeze eggs and keep them in storage for 10 years in the UK.
Professor Simon Fishel, founder of Care Fertility, said: “Anthropologically we are always searching, consciously or unconsciously, for like-minded people so it is not a great leap to understand that women are looking for someone on the same level, who is university-educated or a professional.
“This problem of "missing men" is absolutely the case in many situations in the UK, but there is a wider problem behind the increasing desire for egg freezing, not least about men and women being too unaware of their biological clocks.”
“Almost all of the women in the study who employed egg freezing were heterosexual and wanted to become married mothers,” the research found. “Women lamented the ‘missing men’ in their lives, viewing egg freezing as a way to buy time while on the continuing (online) search for a committed partner.”
The study found that more than 90 per cent of those freezing their eggs were not intentionally “postponing” their fertility because of education or careers.
“Rather they were desperately ‘preserving’ their fertility beyond the natural end of their reproductive lives, because they were single without partners to marry.”
“In most cases, these women were unable to find educated men willing to commit to family life - the reflection of a growing, but little-discussed gender trend, with women increasingly outnumbering male college graduates,” the report found.

 :scrutiny This s___ perplexes me. Since I have started this thread I have done quite a bit of research into both sides of the abyss and this is what I have learnt so far.






Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And yet somehow, SOMEHOW this is still men's fault?  :scrutiny :banghead Women are still the victims here?  :facepalm.

This is madness. Living in the bible belt, I know plenty of young men who are of a traditionalist mindset. Men that are just dying to have a family, and despite all of the above reasons to not get married, they still will take the risk. Hell, I fall into that category. Not to whinge like a little idealist here but what the hell happened to love? Where you would marry a motherfluffer because you loved them, despite them having nothing but a bus pass and the clothes on their back? Granted marriage doesn't have to be so illogical as to just go off of the feeling of 'love' alone, but similar values and a sweet disposition can go a long way in a partnership. I don't understand this build-a-bear workshop mindset of "oh, well they must be this height , weight, make x amount, etc". I think Jordan B Peterson has it right when he says that marriage is when you take someone who is just as flawed, horrid, and useless as yourself and then you shackle yourself to them. You stick together no matter what and then sharpen one another in the process. It seems the entitlement mindset of this generation continues on into matrimony where marriage is just another avenue of 'what can they do for me?' Whether that be boosting your own ego by associating with a partner of 'high status' or by affording you the lifestyle that you feel you are owed for merely having a pulse. The general theme is the same however, people only view others as stepping stones to get to what they want, and this mindset extends to marriage as well..

As far as associating with people on a similar mental level, I completely separate academic 'knowledge' from intelligence. I know a lot of academics that couldn't tell the difference between s___ and apple butter, and working class folk, in my experience, will surprise you with their intelligence. If they are a worker and enjoy reading, their vocabulary might even exceed that of the academics (of course it will have both parts wit and timely profanity in it, at least in my experience :cool).

Back to the original topic, being a young man in this current political climate, I think my biggest fear is to be financially ruined because I couldn't 'keep someone happy' (an impossible task. I am not physically able to control someone's mood/disposition.) and I don't' want to become an 'uncle dad' where I maybe get to see my kids on weekends.

This was an interesting one for me to read. State your opinions below on it, while I try to lower my blood pressure.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Mikee5star on July 10, 2017, 08:08:01 pm
I would call this "Impossible Expectations Lead to Women Taking Desperate Steps".
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 10, 2017, 08:12:56 pm
I would call this "Impossible Expectations Lead to Women Taking Desperate Steps".

At this rate we'll be the one's getting affirmative action and I'll be just as pissed about that too  :rotfl.

Shoe on head was right. The whole feminist movement should just be renamed "woman, what seems to be the problem, now  :-\".
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on July 10, 2017, 08:22:47 pm
At this rate we'll be the one's getting affirmative action and I'll be just as pissed about that too  :rotfl.

Shoe on head was right. The whole feminist movement should just be renamed "woman, what seems to be the problem, now  :-\".


I think you spelled that wrong.  Isn't that spelled with an "r"?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 10, 2017, 08:28:23 pm

I think you spelled that wrong.  Isn't that spelled with an "r"?

 :rotfl

2:05

Found it, slight misquote on my part.

https://youtu.be/Z2nOsdj8dmc
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 10, 2017, 09:00:36 pm
Does anyone remember the feminist fueled 'walk a mile in her shoes' campaign a couple years ago?

https://youtu.be/ZAqOeVazCyE

I couldn't help but notice that comments had been disabled for the video.

https://youtu.be/7Jmh6qglDAc

Video of Gavin McInnes  posted because I couldn't find much news coverage on it. He really isn't my favourite spokesperson  :-\.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on July 10, 2017, 09:11:06 pm
It is going to be hard to break the biological drive of females to marry up or at least the same societal level males. You can try and reprogram all you want, but women still like taller men, of higher social standing and that can provide.

Evolution built those things into the female so she could provide for babies. The females who dated men that didn't show these things had kids who never reproduced.

Sorry if you are a short, pansy slacker but your genes are not what makes better humans. The genetic lottery has winners and losers.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 10, 2017, 09:20:35 pm
It is going to be hard to break the biological drive of females to marry up or at least the same societal level males. You can try and reprogram all you want, but women still like taller men, of higher social standing and that can provide.

Evolution built those things into the female so she could provide for babies. The females who dated men that didn't show these things had kids who never reproduced.

Sorry if you are a short, pansy slacker but your genes are not what makes better humans. The genetic lottery has winners and losers.

I hope that "you" was a general "you" and not one with a target :scrutiny. I'm not six feet or anything, but I am a couple inches taller than average  :cool.

I'm well aware of what you speak of. It's called hypergamy. Many in the MGTOW community say that that is why women cheat. It's programmed into them and once they can find a better suitor, they leave. And there is always a better more capable male out there, much in the same way there is always a younger and more fertile female out there.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on July 10, 2017, 09:43:01 pm
Which is why Monogamy is such a ridiculous concept.  The human animal is not naturally a monogamous species.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 10, 2017, 09:55:18 pm
Which is why Monogamy is such a ridiculous concept.  The human animal is not naturally a monogamous species.

 :facepalm

I cannot refute you logic. Not at all.

But I was trying to, just for a minute, justify a monogamous, Texan traditional, and Catholic lifestyle. Or if not a good, honest Christian way of living, I was trying to make a case that humans aren't just a slightly more advanced knock off of bonobos. I swear I leave my cynicism for one second and you pull me back in  :rotfl.

Besides, aren't you married, Richard?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on July 10, 2017, 10:00:26 pm
Confirmed bachelor.

And without questioning your faith, I can show you several examples where Catholicism and "Christianity" in general, got it wrong.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 10, 2017, 10:09:13 pm
Confirmed bachelor.

And without questioning your faith, I can show you several examples where Catholicism and "Christianity" in general, got it wrong.

Huh, learn something new everyday  :hmm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 10, 2017, 10:13:41 pm
It is going to be hard to break the biological drive of females to marry up or at least the same societal level males. You can try and reprogram all you want, but women still like taller men, of higher social standing and that can provide.
Indeed.  And men are wired to prefer younger, more fertile women.  So men that have done well in life - the type of man that these educated women fell that they deserve - are going to be more interested in something 10-15 years younger than them.

The men have all the time in the world to make themselves more desirable to women, whereas women are in a losing race against a biological clock.  It seems that by choosing education and 'career,' they sacrifice the decade that makes them most desirable to the high-powered men that they deem their equals.   :shrug
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on July 11, 2017, 12:32:00 am
Indeed.  And men are wired to prefer younger, more fertile women.  So men that have done well in life - the type of man that these educated women fell that they deserve - are going to be more interested in something 10-15 years younger than them.

The men have all the time in the world to make themselves more desirable to women, whereas women are in a losing race against a biological clock.  It seems that by choosing education and 'career,' they sacrifice the decade that makes them most desirable to the high-powered men that they deem their equals.   :shrug

It may be time to establish something in our culture like a breeding season. Since young folks tend to go to school for greater portions of their lives, and we seem to be living and working longer. It may do well to have 18-30 or so as college and breeding age for women. You could establish the multi-generational family like humans lived during the middle ages.

It would not be hard to tweak the social acceptance a bit to see careers start at 30. That way they could get children to over 6-8 years old.

It may seem like an odd idea, but it may help our society to raise the children from the folks we really need. Those people that want to be well educated and highly productive in a career. A multi-generational household could have grandparents be a larger influence on grandchildren. It might also help with some folks that seem to get depressed from our modern very isolated society. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 11, 2017, 12:35:28 am
I really can't remember who said it but it goes something like this,  "Life's a b**ch and then you die." .   It might have been the same person who said, "Be careful what you wish for.".   I'm guessing it was probably some guy without a college education.    :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 11, 2017, 12:38:14 am
It may be time to establish something in our culture like a breeding season. Since young folks tend to go to school for greater portions of their lives, and we seem to be living and working longer. It may do well to have 18-30 or so as college and breeding age for women. You could establish the multi-generational family like humans lived during the middle ages.

It would not be hard to tweak the social acceptance a bit to see careers start at 30. That way they could get children to over 6-8 years old.

It may seem like an odd idea, but it may help our society to raise the children from the folks we really need. Those people that want to be well educated and highly productive in a career. A multi-generational household could have grandparents be a larger influence on grandchildren. It might also help with some folks that seem to get depressed from our modern very isolated society.

Wouldn't this be similar to the traditionalist model of generations past, where once again we would see men dominating the workforce? Except instead of being solely a housewife, women would have the 'perk' of joining the workforce later?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 11, 2017, 09:26:21 am
It may be time to establish something in our culture like a breeding season. Since young folks tend to go to school for greater portions of their lives, and we seem to be living and working longer. It may do well to have 18-30 or so as college and breeding age for women. You could establish the multi-generational family like humans lived during the middle ages.

It would not be hard to tweak the social acceptance a bit to see careers start at 30. That way they could get children to over 6-8 years old.
This is partly what women do, taking time off for children.  Then they re-enter the work force with less skills, qualifications and time in service, and then whine about the pay gap.  In your scenario, every woman would be 10 years behind her male peers in seniority and usefulness to their employers.   And would be paid that much less.

No, it is not possible for the average woman to 'have it all.'  To match the education and career trajectory of their male colleagues, it is necessary to do what these women have - go to school, devote themselves to their careers, and climb the ladder.  But by the time they are 30-35, their options for a desirable mate are shrinking by the week and month.  Sure, they can always find a pair of pants to give them children, but it will be more likely a set of Carharts than Armani.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on July 11, 2017, 09:58:21 am
Don't see why not, Kaso.  With online universities, telecommuting, and the like, there's no reason a woman, or even a stay at home dad can't keep up.

My mother got me and my sister to an age (10 and 8 respectively), and went to secretarial school, and worked for the City of Binghamton, Parks and Recreation, and a school district (can't remember which one).  And she was a single parent.  Later she went to college, to be an accountant.

It's not impossible for someone willing to put in the work.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on July 11, 2017, 10:21:54 am
Wouldn't this be similar to the traditionalist model of generations past, where once again we would see men dominating the workforce? Except instead of being solely a housewife, women would have the 'perk' of joining the workforce later?

I never said it was just the women taking off until 30. It would be men as well. They need schooling as well and can be there to help with the kids until they are 8 or so.

The biggest problem with my model is that all capitalist force would be against it. It is more profitable to have a bunch of single people instead of families, and it is even less profitable to start thinking about multi-generational housing. You just flat sell more to people the more they each have to live as an individual. This is especially true for housing.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 11, 2017, 10:53:08 am
Don't see why not, Kaso.  With online universities, telecommuting, and the like, there's no reason a woman, or even a stay at home dad can't keep up.
That is not what I said.  Education is the easy part, and yes, can be taken online.

Career is much more difficult, as even if one works from home, many opportunities are still lost that would have been had at the office.


Your mother is not the type of person we are discussing here.  She was a worker, a family woman who held down a job out of necessity.  I am referring to a 'shoot for the stars' ladder-climbing career woman.  To do that as successfully as a successful man, a woman has to devote the same time, energy, and years to the task.  Those years are her breeding years.  She either spends them making career advancements or making babies - there is very little opportunity for a woman to do both, and do them both well.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 11, 2017, 11:00:36 am
I never said it was just the women taking off until 30. It would be men as well. They need schooling as well and can be there to help with the kids until they are 8 or so.
Tell me again who's going to pay for this ten year or so idyllic existence, where one focuses on academic studies and child rearing full time without an apparent need to be self supporting? 
The previous generation?  They're earning enough to support themselves, their children, and their new grandchildren?

To me it sounds more like putting peoples retirement at the start of their adult life rather than at the end.  You spend your first ten adult years playing with the kids and exploring studies you find appealing and think will be useful, then you work the rest of your life until you drop dead vs working most of your life and then spend the last decade or so playing with the grandkids and exploring studies that you find appealing.



Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 11, 2017, 11:02:10 am
Changing topics, because I have something new to rage about today on the internet.

Topic for discussion: Are SJW's promoting paedophilia?

https://youtu.be/54bhKBz3NRU

https://youtu.be/5Q6pDGNQw3I

I don't post much about Blaire White, but she is an anti-SJW and as you'll see in the video, Andy Warski has done videos in the past on one of these paedophile promoting SJW's as well.

The people promoting this are misguided and vile. As someone who has taken psychiatric health nurse training and who has worked with kids in the hospital, these SJW's are kidding themselves if they think involving sexuality with children is "harmless" like they say. There's a reason they call them 'predators'. Just like animals in the wild, they target those in society who are weak or vulnerable. I've seen it in the hospital and it has only served to reinforce my opinion. If you prey on children or the elderly? Well, you've pretty much forfeited any rights you have, because you've shown yourself to lack any empathy or concern for others that a human being would show. In the end, it is a decision for the courts to decide what happens to a sexual predator, but I would lose all faith in society and the justice system if we started allowing and promoting this kind of behaviour. The support should be for the victim, not for the perpetrator.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 11, 2017, 11:10:27 am
I never said it was just the women taking off until 30. It would be men as well. They need schooling as well and can be there to help with the kids until they are 8 or so.
Capitalist pigs aside, this is not necessary or desirable.  Men's most useful years, as well, are their youth.  Men are meant to learn, build, plant, create, and kill things.  Then, when they are old, to use their wisdom and their minds to educate younger men.  Women, likewise, are designed to reproduce until they are unable, and then use their knowledge and wisdom to help the younger generation.

This is not me saying that this is the only way a man or woman can contribute, but it what we would quickly revert to in a more animal state.

So while yes, women should be able to pursue any career opportunity they choose, it is always going to be a choice between this or that.


To me it sounds more like putting peoples retirement at the start of their adult life rather than at the end.  You spend your first ten adult years playing with the kids and exploring studies you find appealing and think will be useful, then you work the rest of your life until you drop dead vs working most of your life and then spend the last decade or so playing with the grandkids and exploring studies that you find appealing.
Exactly.  Young people need to grow up sooner, not later.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 11, 2017, 12:16:09 pm
Wouldn't this be similar to the traditionalist model of generations past, where once again we would see men dominating the workforce? Except instead of being solely a housewife, women would have the 'perk' of joining the workforce later?

Your perspective is a bit skewed.   The "traditionalist" model you speak of was never true in vast swathes of the country during the century between roughly 1870 - 1970 .   It was an idealized portrait painted by the same coastal and large urban area elites who seek to impose their "vision" of society on us today.  While its true that men dominated the majority of the industrial and high tech workforce in most occupations and most places during that time period, it was a system based upon the considerable ability and dogged determination of those who stayed home, raised the kids and kept an orderly household.  Women joining the workforce was never a "perk" as much as it was a necessity to augment household income once the kids were old enough to be in school most of the day. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 11, 2017, 12:27:48 pm
Your perspective is a bit skewed.   The "traditionalist" model you speak of was never true in vast swathes of the country during the century between roughly 1870 - 1970 .   It was an idealized portrait painted by the same coastal and large urban area elites who seek to impose their "vision" of society on us today.  While its true that men dominated the majority of the industrial and high tech workforce in most occupations and most places during that time period, it was a system based upon the considerable ability and dogged determination of those who stayed home, raised the kids and kept an orderly household.  Women joining the workforce was never a "perk" as much as it was a necessity to augment household income once the kids were old enough to be in school most of the day.

 :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on July 11, 2017, 12:33:47 pm
That is not what I said.  Education is the easy part, and yes, can be taken online.

Career is much more difficult, as even if one works from home, many opportunities are still lost that would have been had at the office.


Your mother is not the type of person we are discussing here.  She was a worker, a family woman who held down a job out of necessity.  I am referring to a 'shoot for the stars' ladder-climbing career woman.  To do that as successfully as a successful man, a woman has to devote the same time, energy, and years to the task.  Those years are her breeding years.  She either spends them making career advancements or making babies - there is very little opportunity for a woman to do both, and do them both well.

I'm going to take into account that you are still young and a bit naive.  My mom, had she not been raising two kids, all by her lonesome, is exactly the kind of woman you're talking about.  Because the woman you're talking about is exactly that, a worker.  It takes a worker, someone with the gumption to do what she has to do, to make it "in a man's world."  I can tell you from years of watching her, she didn't take s___ from nobody, her superiors respected her, and treated her as an equal, even if she was only a lowly secretary.  I don't think she ever did the accountant thing professionally, that was just something she did for her own edification.

Had she not had to deal with a certain young a______ (your's truly), she might have made it even further up the ladder.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 11, 2017, 12:56:02 pm
I don't think Kaso meant any slight - perhaps the opposite .  .  .   :hmm    I think his reference was pointed at the modern "feminist" who has swallowed the whole leftist ideology hook, line and sinker.   Those are the poor deluded souls that are freezing their eggs in the OP and probably hearing the mocking laughter of fate in their nightmares.  IMO, of course .  .  .   :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on July 11, 2017, 01:38:41 pm
 :thumbup1  I didn't feel slighted in the least.  It was my understanding that modern "feminists" were man haters, against traditional nuclear family values, with no desire to produce more evil man children.  :shrug
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 11, 2017, 01:44:15 pm
Personally, I have no insight into the thought processes of people who inhabit the far left and for that I am profoundly grateful.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 11, 2017, 01:59:42 pm
I My mom, had she not been raising two kids, all by her lonesome, is exactly the kind of woman you're talking about.  Because the woman you're talking about is exactly that, a worker.  It takes a worker, someone with the gumption to do what she has to do, to make it "in a man's world."
I agree 100%, and I did perceive the type of woman she was - anyone who works full-time, raises two kids and goes to school at night is a strong, determined person.

But she did have you, and by your words, you were what held her back from going even further.  Because her Children were more important to her, as a Mother.


That is what we are talking about: Women who put off family for career, thinking they can always have the family 'later.' The ones who really do well for themselves, but then realize at the end stage of their fertility that they are no longer attractive to successful men - not because those men don't exist, and not because they dislike educated, successful women, but because they prefer younger, thinner, more fertile women.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: aikorob on July 12, 2017, 07:15:38 am
saw this while perusing blogs this morning:

what SJW's care about
http://wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.8180 (http://wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.8180)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 12, 2017, 12:51:21 pm
Changing topics, because I have something new to rage about today on the internet.

Topic for discussion: Are SJW's promoting paedophilia?

https://youtu.be/54bhKBz3NRU

https://youtu.be/5Q6pDGNQw3I

I don't post much about Blaire White, but she is an anti-SJW and as you'll see in the video, Andy Warski has done videos in the past on one of these paedophile promoting SJW's as well.

The people promoting this are misguided and vile. As someone who has taken psychiatric health nurse training and who has worked with kids in the hospital, these SJW's are kidding themselves if they think involving sexuality with children is "harmless" like they say. There's a reason they call them 'predators'. Just like animals in the wild, they target those in society who are weak or vulnerable. I've seen it in the hospital and it has only served to reinforce my opinion. If you prey on children or the elderly? Well, you've pretty much forfeited any rights you have, because you've shown yourself to lack any empathy or concern for others that a human being would show. In the end, it is a decision for the courts to decide what happens to a sexual predator, but I would lose all faith in society and the justice system if we started allowing and promoting this kind of behaviour. The support should be for the victim, not for the perpetrator.

I don't think there is any scrap of this that is "misguided".  :scrutiny   I can agree with vile and disgusting and evil but misguided suggests that a person who engages in this behavior or supports it in any way doesn't realize the harm it causes and I completely reject that idea.  That also goes for a judicial system that puts these predators back among the very populations they prey upon.   

The logical end point of moral relativism is the same nightmarish place its always been.  You do NOT want to go there. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 12, 2017, 01:21:42 pm
I don't think there is any scrap of this that is "misguided".  :scrutiny   I can agree with vile and disgusting and evil but misguided suggests that a person who engages in this behavior or supports it in any way doesn't realize the harm it causes and I completely reject that idea.  That also goes for a judicial system that puts these predators back among the very populations they prey upon.   

The logical end point of moral relativism is the same nightmarish place its always been.  You do NOT want to go there.

And here I was worried that some might find my opinion to be too harsh. Glad that you didn't have any opposition to the rest of my previous post  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 15, 2017, 04:39:55 pm
https://youtu.be/62hd2PRZekA

Jordan B Peterson is probably one of the best spoken anti SJW's we have. He's also fighting to keep the values of western society as a whole intact, and for an individual with limited reach, he's done very well.

While others have given this same advice before, I feel if younger generations would take this to heart, we might see both honesty and spine in our populace again. Two things which are sorely lacking.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 15, 2017, 05:08:14 pm
Well said.  Him and you.   :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: aikorob on July 17, 2017, 12:15:08 pm
the next step for the "woke" folks:
https://medusamagazine.com/dont-gender-your-pets (https://medusamagazine.com/dont-gender-your-pets)
I think this should have been posted on April 1  :banghead
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 17, 2017, 01:42:37 pm
the next step for the "woke" folks:
https://medusamagazine.com/dont-gender-your-pets (https://medusamagazine.com/dont-gender-your-pets)
I think this should have been posted on April 1  :banghead
This article really gives me the urge to show on the doorstep of these idiots.....sorta like this......
https://youtu.be/vuBWbpTJRqk?t=22s
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 17, 2017, 02:39:01 pm
This article really gives me the urge to show on the doorstep of these idiots.....sorta like this......
https://youtu.be/vuBWbpTJRqk?t=22s

The part with the priest  :rotfl. I could just imagine there being some trolling, s___ lord clergy in the depths of the internet somewhere.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 17, 2017, 03:23:39 pm
https://youtu.be/62hd2PRZekA

Jordan B Peterson is probably one of the best spoken anti SJW's we have. He's also fighting to keep the values of western society as a whole intact, and for an individual with limited reach, he's done very well.

While others have given this same advice before, I feel if younger generations would take this to heart, we might see both honesty and spine in our populace again. Two things which are sorely lacking.

Not sure why the hell this got taken down  :scrutiny.

https://youtu.be/KMj9wsrPE5U

Now stay! Good dog  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 18, 2017, 05:17:39 pm
https://youtu.be/8n1yZ_bfZNg

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 18, 2017, 05:29:55 pm
https://youtu.be/g1_73PRy4jk

http://www.reparations.me/

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 20, 2017, 12:36:49 am
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/13/feminist-geographers-dont-cite-research-white-men/

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Feminist geographers encourage colleagues not to cite research of white men
By Bradford Richardson - The Washington Times
Thursday, July 13, 2017


Two feminist geographers are encouraging their colleagues to be more mindful about citing the research of white males because doing so contributes to “the reproduction of white heteromasculinity of geographical thought and scholarship.”
Writing in “Gender, Place & Culture: A Journal of Feminist Geography,” Carrie Mott and Daniel Cockayne argue that considering an author’s gender, race or sexuality prior to citation can be an effective “feminist and anti-racist technology of resistance that demonstrates engagement with those authors and voices we want to carry forward.”

The authors point out that whether an academic’s research is cited by his peers has significant implications for promotion, tenure and influence. Therefore, to cite only white men “does a disservice to researchers and writers who are othered by white heteromasculinism.”
The authors define “white heteromasculinism” as “an intersectional system of oppression describing on-going processes that bolster the status of those who are white, male, able-bodied, economically privileged, heterosexual, and cisgendered.”

Academics should practice “conscientious engagement” when citing research, the feminists assert, “as a way to self-consciously draw attention to those whose work is being reproduced.”
The article, titled “Citation matters: mobilizing the politics of citation toward a practice of ‘conscientious engagement,’” was first reported by Campus Reform.
Ms. Mott told Campus Reform that “white men tend to be cited in much higher numbers than people from other backgrounds.”

“When it is predominantly white, heteronormative males who are cited, this means that the views and knowledge that are represented do not reflect the experience of people from other backgrounds,” she said. “When scholars continue to cite only white men on a given topic, they ignore the broader diversity of voices and researchers that are also doing important work on a that topic.”

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 20, 2017, 12:41:54 am
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449507/feminist-geographers-warn-against-citing-too-many-white-men-scholarly-articles

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Feminist Geographers Warn Against Citing Too Many White Men in Scholarly Articles

by Katherine Timpf July 14, 2017 2:36 PM


The scholars warn against perpetuating 'white heteromasculine hegemony.' Two geologists have warned against citing too many white men and/or too many “established scholars” in scholarly articles, because doing so contributes to “white heteromasculinism” and oppression. “To cite only white men . . . or to only cite established scholars . . . does a disservice to researchers and writers who are othered by white heteromasculinism,” Rutgers University professor Carrie Mott and University of Waterloo professor Daniel Cockayne state in a piece for Feminist Journal of Geography. Mott and Cockayne ask readers to vet the races and genders of the scholars that they intend to cite, warning that a failure to do so could result in the “marginalization of women, people of color, and those othered through white heteromasculine hegemony.” In an interview with Campus Reform, Mott said that she became inspired to speak out about this issue when she discovered that more white men were being cited than people from other groups. Campus Reform reports that it asked her whether there were simply a larger number of white men in the field. She apparently did not answer directly but stated, “The point we are trying to make is that important research done by traditionally marginalized voices . . . is often ignored by ‘mainstream’ and very well-established scholars—which means, in geography at least, white male Marxists.”

Now, I certainly do understand the value of including different perspectives from different people, but I still think that the most important thing to consider when deciding whether or not to cite a piece of scientific research from a scientific scholar should be its value to science. If a person’s research is going to enhance an article, then the person writing it should not have to think twice about citing it because of the source’s gender or race. All of that aside, the most confusing thing about this article — other than its social-justice jargon — is probably its warning against citing only “established scholars.” It’s been awhile since I’ve been in school, but I always thought that backing up your claims with well-credentialed sources was actually the best way to write an article, and that the credentials of the sources you’re citing do matter when you’re using them to support your argument. As Campus Reform notes, recent research by the American Association of Geographers found that only 37 percent of geology professors are women, and that only 33 percent of geography-related research articles are published by women. Perhaps some would argue that this is a chicken-or-the-egg situation: That there might be more women interested in geology if only more women were being cited in geology. You cannot argue, however, that it doesn’t make perfect logical sense that male geologists would be cited more often than female geologists, given the fact that there are more male than female geologists.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 20, 2017, 12:49:08 am
https://youtu.be/5y1_pgqTow8
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Gabrielus on July 20, 2017, 12:55:31 am
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449507/feminist-geographers-warn-against-citing-too-many-white-men-scholarly-articles

Maybe the reason people cite so many white men when it comes to scholarly articles and the like is because, oh I don't know, white men are usually the ones making major discoveries and writing about these types of discoveries, because you know I'm not gonna get A's on my Essays with my freaking feelings!

Also I would hesitate to call these two women scholars, because last time I checked, in order to be a scholar you can't be that freaking stupid.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Gabrielus on July 20, 2017, 01:01:07 am
https://youtu.be/5y1_pgqTow8

Allow me to make 2 points.

1. They will never have kids, ever.

2. No one is shaming you for your periods, no matter how hard they try to normalize this type of stuff one fact will forever remain, it's just plain gross, but I feel kind of bad for them, life must be so hard being so incredibly stupid.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 20, 2017, 01:09:59 am
Yeah...  :scrutiny  I am not even going to watch that.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 20, 2017, 01:10:21 am
Allow me to make 2 points.

1. They will never have kids, ever.

2. No one is shaming you for your periods, no matter how hard they try to normalize this type of stuff one fact will forever remain, it's just plain gross, but I feel kind of bad for them, life must be so hard being so incredibly stupid.

Yeah, I've never heard anyone shame anyone for their period... Ever. The closest thing I have seen was a young woman was embarrassed for being on her period when she was dating a young man she really liked. I chalk that up to, uh, more intimate things though. Not the action itself being bad.


Yeah...  :scrutiny  I am not even going to watch that.

C'mon, Kaso, it builds character  ;).
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 20, 2017, 02:00:41 am
C'mon, Kaso, it builds character  ;).
No.  Those females need beat with a heavy stick.  Who even thinks up that perversion? :scrutiny
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 20, 2017, 02:09:17 am
Topic for discussion: Are SJW's promoting paedophilia?
https://youtu.be/5Q6pDGNQw3I
I want to bring this back up, because something needs to be said.  In the video she talks down at the 'Righteous Pedophiles,' those who voluntarily control their desires.  Why are they a bad thing?  Why do we condemn a person for having an 'orientation' outside of the social norm?  I get the whole age of consent thing, but these guys realize it is wrong, and are behaving themselves.  So because they feel these urges at all?  The whole 'outside social norms' argument flew out the window when being gay became acceptable.  If gays are supposedly 'born that way,' then righteous pedophiles can be afforded the same consideration - and should be lauded for their restraint and abstinence.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on July 20, 2017, 03:49:21 pm
I want to bring this back up, because something needs to be said.  In the video she talks down at the 'Righteous Pedophiles,' those who voluntarily control their desires.  Why are they a bad thing?  Why do we condemn a person for having an 'orientation' outside of the social norm?  I get the whole age of consent thing, but these guys realize it is wrong, and are behaving themselves.  So because they feel these urges at all?  The whole 'outside social norms' argument flew out the window when being gay became acceptable.  If gays are supposedly 'born that way,' then righteous pedophiles can be afforded the same consideration - and should be lauded for their restraint and abstinence.

You are completely correct in your analysis from my perspective. Someone should be judged on their actions and not their thoughts or desires.

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 21, 2017, 12:14:55 pm
Feminism in a nutshell: "We won't stop until female superiority is achieved."

Men, women? Y'all better behave or else I'm turning this car around. We're stuck on this flying rock together whether we like it or not, so play nice  ::).

https://youtu.be/5xJI4zYR5o8

https://youtu.be/HxsJRE8__s8

Some crude humour to alleviate the feminist whinging  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 24, 2017, 03:55:46 pm
https://youtu.be/2MITPKDE850

http://www.rolereboot.org/culture-and-politics/details/2017-07-im-done-pretending-men-safe-even-sons/#.WV5zqH_7FTl.twitter

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I’m Done Pretending Men Are Safe (Even My Sons)
By Jody Allard
July 6, 2017


If the feminist men—the men who proudly declare their progressive politics and their fight for quality—aren’t safe, then what man is? No man, I fear.

I have two sons. They are strong and compassionate—the kind of boys other parents are glad to meet when their daughters bring them home for dinner. They are good boys, in the ways good boys are, but they are not safe boys. I’m starting to believe there’s no such thing.

I wrote an essay in The Washington Post last year, during the height of the Brock Turner case, about my sons and rape culture. I didn’t think it would be controversial when I wrote it; I was sure most parents grappled with raising sons in the midst of rape culture. The struggle I wrote about was universal, I thought, but I was wrong. My essay went semi-viral, and for the first time my sons encountered my words about them on their friends’ phones, their teachers’ computers, and even overheard them discussed by strangers on a crowded metro bus. It was one thing to agree to be written about in relative obscurity, and quite another thing to have my words intrude on their daily lives.

One of my sons was hurt by my words, although he’s never told me so. He doesn’t understand why I lumped him and his brother together in my essay. He sees himself as the “good” one, the one who is sensitive and thoughtful, and who listens instead of reacts. He doesn’t understand that even quiet misogyny is misogyny, and that not all sexists sound like Twitter trolls. He is angry at me now, although he won’t admit that either, and his anger led him to conservative websites and YouTube channels; places where he can surround himself with righteous indignation against feminists, and tell himself it’s ungrateful women like me who are the problem.

I teeter frequently between supporting my son and educating him. Is it my job as his mother to ensure he feels safe emotionally, no matter what violence he spews? Is it my job as his mother to steer and educate, no matter how much that education challenges his view of himself? I think it’s both, but the balance between the two has proven impossible to pinpoint. When I hear his voice become defensive, I back off but question whether I’m doing him any favors by allowing his perception of himself to go unchallenged. When I confront him with his own sexism, I question whether I’m pushing too hard and leaving him without an emotional safe space in his home.

As a single mother, I sometimes wonder whether the real problem is that my sons have no role models for the type of men I hope they become. But when I look around at the men I know, I’m not sure a male partner would fill that hole. Where are these men who are enlightened but not arrogant? Who are feminists without self-congratulation? If my sons need role models, they may have to become their own.

I joined Bumble recently, after a six-plus year break from dating. I’m not overly interested in dating in the first place, but I’m starved for adult conversation so dating feels like a necessary evil. Bumble, as I explained to my married friends, is like the feminist Tinder. Women have to initiate contact with men, so at least there’s no inbox full of dick picks every day. But, feminist or not, the men are no different from the men anywhere else and I quickly felt deflated. If the feminist men — the men who proudly declare their progressive politics and their fight for quality — aren’t safe, then what man is? No man, I fear.

I know I’m not supposed to cast an entire sex with a single paint brush — not all men, I’m sure some readers are thinking and preparing to type or tweet. But if it’s impossible for a white person to grow up without adopting racist ideas, simply because of the environment in which they live, how can I expect men not to subconsciously absorb at least some degree of sexism? White people aren’t safe, and men aren’t safe, no matter how much I’d like to assure myself that these things aren’t true.

My sons won’t rape unconscious women behind a dumpster, and neither will most of the progressive men I know. But what all of these men share in common, even my sons, is a relentless questioning and disbelief of the female experience. I do not want to prove my pain, or provide enough evidence to convince anyone that my trauma is merited. I’m through wasting my time on people who are more interested in ideas than feelings, and I’m through pretending these people, these men, are safe.

I love my sons, and I love some individual men. It pains me to say that I don’t feel emotionally safe with them, and perhaps never have with a man, but it needs to be said because far too often we are afraid to say it. This is not a reflection of something broken or damaged in me; it is a reflection of the systems we build and our boys absorb. Those little boys grow into men who know the value of women, the value that’s been ascribed to us by a broken system, and it seeps out from them in a million tiny, toxic ways.

I don’t know what the balance is between supporting these men and educating them, but I know the toll it takes on me to try. I am too valuable and too worthy to waste my time on men who are not my flesh and blood. But as my boys grow into men, I wonder whether I’ve done enough to combat the messages they hear from everyone but me. They are good boys, and maybe that’s the best they can be in the system we’ve created for them.

Jody Allard is a former techie-turned-freelance-writer living in Seattle. She can be reached through her website, on Twitter or via her Facebook page.

Nothing red pills you faster than your mom casting misandrist shade about you on the world wide web. These kiddos will make fine alt-right recruits, I can't wait. She practically held their hand and walked them to the conservatives  >:D.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 24, 2017, 04:11:48 pm
Btw, if you want your faith in humanity restored on the last one, go and read the comments. People are lambasting the hell out of her, as they should. Not sure about the rest of western civilisation, but here in the south, if you have a problem with friends and family then you address the 'problem' directly with them and behind closed doors. You don't openly humiliate those you care about, if you can help it, and especially not blood. In this instance I am glad she made her histrionic screeching public, that way we can see her true colours. I reckon I have gathered enough field evidence now to confirm that she is crazier than Hitler's house cat. Those poor boys  :(.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Chief45 on July 24, 2017, 04:20:58 pm
"White people aren’t safe, and men aren’t safe"


well,  that pretty well tells everything you need to know about this individual.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 24, 2017, 05:14:47 pm
"White people aren’t safe, and men aren’t safe"


well,  that pretty well tells everything you need to know about this individual.

Agreed. She says s___ like that and no one bats and eye, yet if someone replaced 'white' with 'black' and 'men' with 'women', then all hell would break loose. Hell, even saying you don't immediately trust all women is a sin that deserves flagellation at the altar of feminism.

https://youtu.be/wLfteXiuKw4

Milo was right:

https://youtu.be/YfLr4jJEHIQ
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 24, 2017, 05:27:05 pm
This one was just strange  :shocked.

German commuter runs over Antifa that try to block the road. I don't think I would ever try to mess with a German's schedule, as I assume the 'on time, to the second' approach also applies to those commuting to work. From what I can see, no one gets hurt except a broken bicycle frame and a now scratched Audi. I'm surprised the protesters looked so surprised when someone tried to blow past their little display.

https://youtu.be/UXLN4kCpsfQ
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: cpaspr on July 24, 2017, 05:48:01 pm

I'm no Larry Correia, but I'll attempt to fisk this a bit. 

Quote
I’m Done Pretending Men Are Safe (Even My Sons)
By Jody Allard
July 6, 2017

If the feminist men—the men who proudly declare their progressive politics and their fight for quality—aren’t safe, then what man is? No man, I fear.

I have two sons. They are strong and compassionate—the kind of boys other parents are glad to meet when their daughters bring them home for dinner. They are good boys, in the ways good boys are, but they are not safe boys. I’m starting to believe there’s no such thing.  [Not the way you would have them be safe, no.  And they should count their lucky stars for that.]

I wrote an essay in The Washington Post last year, during the height of the Brock Turner case, about my sons and rape culture. I didn’t think it would be controversial when I wrote it; I was sure most parents grappled with raising sons in the midst of rape culture. The struggle I wrote about was universal, I thought, but I was wrong. [Shoulda thought about it a bunch more, and yes, you were wrong.  And you're still wrong.]  My essay went semi-viral, and for the first time my sons encountered my words about them on their friends’ phones, their teachers’ computers, and even overheard them discussed by strangers on a crowded metro bus. It was one thing to agree to be written about in relative obscurity, and quite another thing to have my words intrude on their daily lives.  [Oops, Mom's a raving lunatic, and it's reflecting badly on me.]

One of my sons was hurt by my words [No, really?], although he’s never told me so [Wouldn't do any good, and he knows it.]. He doesn’t understand why I lumped him and his brother together in my essay. He sees himself as the “good” one, the one who is sensitive and thoughtful, and who listens instead of reacts. He doesn’t understand that even quiet misogyny is misogyny, and that not all sexists sound like Twitter trolls. He is angry at me now [Good for him.], although he won’t admit that either, and his anger led him to conservative websites and YouTube channels; places where he can surround himself with righteous indignation against feminists [He's learning the truth - good.], and tell himself it’s ungrateful women like me who are the problem [Well, that's because you are at least part of the problem.].

I teeter frequently between supporting my son and educating him. Is it my job as his mother to ensure he feels safe emotionally, no matter what violence he spews? Is it my job as his mother to steer and educate, no matter how much that education challenges his view of himself? I think it’s both, but the balance between the two has proven impossible to pinpoint. When I hear his voice become defensive, I back off but question whether I’m doing him any favors by allowing his perception of himself to go unchallenged. When I confront him with his own sexism, I question whether I’m pushing too hard and leaving him without an emotional safe space in his home. [Ya think?]

As a single mother, I sometimes wonder whether the real problem is that my sons have no role models for the type of men I hope they become. But when I look around at the men I know, I’m not sure a male partner would fill that hole. [None that would be interested in you, no.] Where are these men who are enlightened but not arrogant? Who are feminists without self-congratulation? If my sons need role models, they may have to become their own.

I joined Bumble recently, after a six-plus year break from dating. I’m not overly interested in dating in the first place, but I’m starved for adult conversation so dating feels like a necessary evil. Bumble, as I explained to my married friends, is like the feminist Tinder. Women have to initiate contact with men, so at least there’s no inbox full of dick picks every day. But, feminist or not, the men are no different from the men anywhere else and I quickly felt deflated. If the feminist men — the men who proudly declare their progressive politics and their fight for quality — aren’t safe, then what man is? No man, I fear.

I know I’m not supposed to cast an entire sex with a single paint brush — not all men, I’m sure some readers are thinking and preparing to type or tweet. But if it’s impossible for a white person to grow up without adopting racist ideas [Yes it is.  I'm not racist, I just hate a______s and jerks.  I don't care what color they are.] , simply because of the environment in which they live, how can I expect men not to subconsciously absorb at least some degree of sexism? White people aren’t safe, and men aren’t safe, no matter how much I’d like to assure myself that these things aren’t true.

My sons won’t rape unconscious women behind a dumpster, and neither will most of the progressive men I know.   But what all of these men share in common, even my sons, is a relentless questioning and disbelief of the female experience. [Actually, no.  You're projecting again.] I do not want to prove my pain [Chicken!], or provide enough evidence to convince anyone that my trauma is merited [So we just have to take your word for it.  Riigghht.]. I’m through wasting my time on people who are more interested in ideas than feelings [Cue: Feelings, nothing more than feelings...], and I’m through pretending these people, these men, are safe.

I love my sons, and I love some individual men. It pains me to say that I don’t feel emotionally safe with them, and perhaps never have with a man, but it needs to be said because far too often we are afraid to say it. This is not a reflection of something broken or damaged in me [Guess again!]; it is a reflection of the systems we build and our boys absorb. Those little boys grow into men who know the value of women, the value that’s been ascribed to us by a broken system, and it seeps out from them in a million tiny, toxic ways.

I don’t know what the balance is between supporting these men and educating them, but I know the toll it takes on me to try. I am too valuable and too worthy to waste my time on men who are not my flesh and blood. [Nothing like a little self-aggrandizement.] But as my boys grow into men, I wonder whether I’ve done enough to combat the messages they hear from everyone but me. [I certainly hope not, for their sakes.] They are good boys, and maybe that’s the best they can be in the system we’ve created for them.

Jody Allard is a former techie-turned-freelance-writer living in Seattle. She can be reached through her website, on Twitter or via her Facebook page.

 This is not a reflection of something broken or damaged in me  Here's the problem, in a nutshell.  She got this one little bit wrong, and everything else flowed from it.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 24, 2017, 06:08:37 pm
 :o

Why haven't I thought of fisking an article?  :hmm You did really well! I  :rotfl 'd at some parts of it  :thumbup1.

I think you may have started a new trend. The next article I find? I'm gonna see what I can do to fisk it  ;).

I can either fisk an article that I find myself or take a crack at one that someone provides me with here.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Gabrielus on July 24, 2017, 06:50:18 pm
Dear Jody Allard

Just get cats.

-Gabrielus
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 24, 2017, 09:17:39 pm
Yup.  Because cats and crazy people go together macaroni and cheese.  And Ms. Allard is nothing if not bat sh&t fecking crazy.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: cpaspr on July 25, 2017, 12:51:57 am
:o

Why haven't I thought of fisking an article?  :hmm You did really well! I  :rotfl 'd at some parts of it  :thumbup1.

I think you may have started a new trend. The next article I find? I'm gonna see what I can do to fisk it  ;).

I can either fisk an article that I find myself or take a crack at one that someone provides me with here.


Thank you.  That was my first attempt at fisking.  I was just going to go with what ended up as the the ending paragraph, then went back and just kept finding stuff that I wanted to respond to, so changed it up into what you see above.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on July 25, 2017, 12:53:13 am
Dear Jody Allard

Just get cats.

-Gabrielus

What do you have against the cats? I know some folks do not like them, but nothing deserves to be around this lady.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 25, 2017, 02:46:55 am


Oh goodness  :facepalm. Rage decided to discuss race... I'll watch the s___storm unfold, but I'll keep my opinion to myself for now.

Well, it looks like her Youtube account has been deleted.     
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 25, 2017, 03:59:08 am
Well, it looks like her Youtube account has been deleted.     
Over that? :shocked I've been saying that stuff for years.  Not the IQ part, which I do not know for certain if it is true, but the whole 'people are different, race is real.'

The establishment hates that, I know.  'Everyone is the same,' 'we are all one race,' 'colorblind,' etc. is the liberal fantasy.  They whine that there are not enough of (whatever minority it is today) in college (which they may not be qualified to pursue), then conveniently overlook the NBA, where economics dictate who gets the jobs, and where minorities are overrepresented because they are more genetically suited to perform the work. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 25, 2017, 06:24:30 am
Over that? :shocked I've been saying that stuff for years.  Not the IQ part, which I do not know for certain if it is true, but the whole 'people are different, race is real.'
That does indeed seem to be the reason. 

Remember, we live in a civilized society where open discussion of differing ideas is how we develop and prosper...as long as your ideas are acceptable. :coffee
 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 25, 2017, 09:08:25 am
"...as long as you think the way that 'we' think."
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 25, 2017, 10:30:39 am
Well, it looks like her Youtube account has been deleted.   

Oh, wow. I was unaware of this. Not a proud day for freedom of speech.

Speaking of people being afraid of ideas:
https://youtu.be/rtImwK5TI4g

Lauren Southern's material is very tame. She is more tradcon than anything else and doesn't seem to have the energetic streak that a lot of classical liberal/libertarian youth do.

1984 come to life, I reckon  :coffee.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 25, 2017, 10:34:17 am
"...as long as you think the way that 'we' think."
Precisely. :banghead
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: cpaspr on July 25, 2017, 11:19:04 am
Over that? :shocked I've been saying that stuff for years.  Not the IQ part, which I do not know for certain if it is true, but the whole 'people are different, race is real.'

The establishment hates that, I know.  'Everyone is the same,' 'we are all one race,' 'colorblind,' etc. is the liberal fantasy.  They whine that there are not enough of (whatever minority it is today) in college (which they may not be qualified to pursue), then conveniently overlook the NBA, where economics dictate who gets the jobs, and where minorities are overrepresented because they are more genetically suited to perform the work. 

Oh noes!  Kaso just went all Jimmy 'The Greek' Snyder!   :panic   :neener   :clap 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 25, 2017, 12:21:04 pm
Oh noes!  Kaso just went all Jimmy 'The Greek' Snyder!   :panic   :neener   :clap 
I had to look him up, but... the truth is the truth.  I stand behind my statement.

I don't have a degree in genetic theory, but I do have two eyes.  So when I see 13% of our population making up the overwhelming majority of NFL and NBA players...  I have to draw a conclusion.  And Indians make up a vanishingly small percentage of the population, and yet their children manage to score the top spots in the national spelling competition, year after year after year.  Why?  Because their genetic software makes them more able to memorize and regurgitate information like that.  I'll never say that it is easy for them to win, only that they are more apt at memorizing when they put in the work.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 25, 2017, 01:30:51 pm
And Indians make up a vanishingly small percentage of the population, and yet their children manage to score the top spots in the national spelling competition, year after year after year.  Why?  Because their genetic software makes them more able to memorize and regurgitate information like that.  I'll never say that it is easy for them to win, only that they are more apt at memorizing when they put in the work.
If you're talking about the Indians that come from India (as opposed to the aboriginals of North America). some of that is cultural rather than genetic, as in pushed very hard to study by family and custom...oreso than the average modern "American" kids.   
Not disagreeing with your overall premise, just pointing out that there are factors other than genetics that in some cases may have more to do with differences in performance.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 25, 2017, 04:11:00 pm
If you're talking about the Indians that come from India (as opposed to the aboriginals of North America). some of that is cultural rather than genetic, as in pushed very hard to study by family and custom...oreso than the average modern "American" kids.   
Not disagreeing with your overall premise, just pointing out that there are factors other than genetics that in some cases may have more to do with differences in performance.
Agreed, absolutely.  That did factor into my considerations, as Indians - as well as most Aisian cultures - place a higher value on discipline and education than the west does.  And I think this is a part of what makes it genetic.  Do something over and over, for generations, and it becomes a part of you; animals adapt to their surroundings, and so do people.  (This is clearly seen in the various European populations, where each nation has 'become' distinct, and good at different things than their neighbors just across the border.  It starts as cultural, but within a few generations works its way into what they are.)

As a personal example, my parents saw fit to import a baby girl from a small town in South America, some 13 years ago.  She was raised the same as the rest of us were, given the same education, but... the child just can't learn math.  We have tried numerous ways to teach her, she has been to tutors, learning centers, and whatnot, but it takes her years to absorb what I got just by snapping my fingers.  (Am I special?  No.) 

After discussing her dilemma, my father and I realized that her people have not had to learn or know math since the Spanish Conquest, (for the learned class) and the peasant class never knew beyond a basic arithmetic.  Her genetics have not adapted and evolved to learn mathematics, and so while she does learn it... eventually... it takes her a long time of hard work.  On the flip side of this, she can take care of and connect to the farm animals like no one else.  Also, I suspect, because of what has been worked into her genes for hundreds of years.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 26, 2017, 03:45:17 am
Agreed, absolutely.  That did factor into my considerations, as Indians - as well as most Aisian cultures - place a higher value on discipline and education than the west does.  And I think this is a part of what makes it genetic.  Do something over and over, for generations, and it becomes a part of you; animals adapt to their surroundings, and so do people.
I don't believe that that doing things over and over for generations causes it to, "become a part of you", so much as if an activity, behavior, or other trait is of such importance or utility to a group that those who exhibit it and excel in that regard are more likely to  reproduce and/or have more offspring than others within that group.  Over time their genes (and the associated traits) would come to be more common within that group.   Natural selection, in other words.
If memory serves, this seems to be the explanation as to why Ashkenazim Jews have a substantially higher average IQ as a group; in Medieval and Renaissance Europe they greatly valued scholarship and learning to the extent that the wealthy and powerful in their community would subsidize the brightest to afford them the ability to study further,  and quite often have these scholars marry their patrons daughters. Wealth was most certainly something that contributed greatly to long life and better health in that time, so these unions produced more offspring than average. Over many generations this seems to have resulted in the observed higher than average IQ.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 26, 2017, 07:48:58 am
I don't believe that that doing things over and over for generations causes it to, "become a part of you", so much as if an activity, behavior, or other trait is of such importance or utility to a group that those who exhibit it and excel in that regard are more likely to  reproduce and/or have more offspring than others within that group.  Over time their genes (and the associated traits) would come to be more common within that group.   Natural selection, in other words.
Maybe.  I have long been of the opinion that a people shapes their culture, and the culture shapes them back.  Natural selection is definitely a thing, but I do believe that it goes the other way too.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 26, 2017, 11:14:16 am
https://youtu.be/4cE886JgcWg

It's hard to not like HuMAN simply for the fact that he stands out from the other MGTOW's by not being a screaming irrational banshee.

This is the same reason that I liked listening to Laci Green's 3rd gen fem videos, but now that she has transitioned to this team, she is a pretty cool cat indeed  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 26, 2017, 12:20:36 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relationships/11904203/Well-done-feminism.-Now-man-are-afraid-to-help-women-at-work.html

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Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work
News that men are too fearful of a trip to HR to help out their female colleagues is final proof that the gender equality project has backfired, writes Martin Daubney

A new book claims that male office workers are now so afraid of being on the receiving end of a sexual harassment case, they are reluctant to mentor, assist, befriend and even hold open doors for female colleagues.
Crushingly, Sex & The Office suggests men now view such ordinary, decent behaviours as “too risky” – and, in what will be a bitter irony for equality campaigners – claims that, as a direct consequence, women are now failing to advance at work.
This terror of being accused of sexual harassment is now so common it has its own term, “backlash stress”. It sounds like something straight out of a Claims Direct ad – where the only victims are men.

The book’s author, Kim Elsesser, a research scholar at the University of California, argues that a “sex partition” has sprung up, which impedes women from building the vital network of contacts both within the workplace and socially.
And the author should know about tough working environments: she’s a former equities trader at Morgan Stanley.
Tellingly, Elsesser adds that companies themselves are contributing to this mess, as they are now so terrified of legal action they send staff on sexual harassment training courses, and are duty-bound to follow up on any allegation, however minor.
Ludicrously, Elsesser cites examples of men who have been dragged in by their HR departments for simply opening a door for a female colleague or complimenting her on a new suit. “Stories like these spread around workplaces, instilling a fear that innocent remarks will be misinterpreted,” she says.
No s**t, Sherlock! 

Of course, despite the fact that it is men who are getting the rough end of the pineapple here, this is all being painted as Officially Bad For Women, as they are failing to get on.
But how are men meant to react when we’re informed that, despite decades of being told women don’t need or even want men’s help, now they’re falling behind because we’re not helping them?
A phrase involving “cake and eat it” leaps to mind – although don’t repeat it at work, as you’ll probably be frogmarched to HR for “fat shaming”.
Elsesser’s book echoes an insightful New York Post article from earlier this year called ‘Powerful Men Now Hide Behind Open Doors’. 

The writer, Naomi Schaffer Riley, paints a depressingly familiar picture of university lecturers who won’t even close their office doors when alone with a female student.
It would be easy to dismiss this as yet more campus lunacy, yet Riley claims this rot runs to the very top of American society. And how soon before we start feeling ripples cross the Pond?
Riley cites a US National Journal survey where a male Congress aide said: “Several female aides have been barred from staffing their male bosses at evening events, driving alone with their congressman or senator, or even sitting down one-on-one in his office for fear that others would get the wrong impression.”
In a lawsuit-happy culture, where claims can seemingly be made on a 'he said/she said' basis, men are now trying to ensure their actions are always covered by a third party witness. Increasingly, they want to make sure the walls have ears – just in case something “inappropriate” is said. 

How sad. And, honestly, who’s got the foggiest clue about where “inappropriate” even begins these days? Holding open a door? Saying, “nice dress?” Smiling? Making eye contact?
By carrying on like this we are nurturing and mollycoddling victimhood and it is having profound impacts. Last month in Britain, “fearless feminist” barrister Charlotte Proudman publicly shamed Alexander Carter-Silk, 57, a senior solicitor, for complimenting her “stunning” LinkedIn profile picture – then claimed it was her career that had been “ruined”.
Amid this poisonous smog of mutual mistrust and, increasingly, contempt, is there any wonder men are becoming fearful of female co-workers?
Above all, Sex & The Office is proof, if any were needed, that The Great Workplace Equality Project has spectacularly backfired. Who, precisely, wins if men are terrified of lawsuits and women are falling behind as a consequence?
In this toxic, paranoid environment, women will never be trusted as advisers. They will be frozen out of networks – or, increasingly, create their own women-only networks, which on the surface promise advancement yet deep down increase gender separatism. Would the single-sex workplaces of the 1940s be safer for all? 

This is the bed Third Wave feminism has made. Now we all have to lie in it: wide-awake, hearts racing, eyes wide open, waiting for the lawyers to come hammering at our doors.
Is that our collective future – one called “Fear And Loathing In Human Resources?” How can we make this waking nightmare end? 

Who could blame them in this PC culture?

When any physical contact such as a hug or clapped hand on the shoulder is construed as "sexual and wrong".

When eye contact can be construed as being "sexual and wrong".

When even discussing the initiation of a relationship outside of work, being rejected, and then immediately stopping all further advances is a punishable offense. Because a man is socially obligated to initiate the relationship, yet asking only once is now committing a 'crime'.

and

When we have feminists pushing propaganda like this:

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/547e507fe4b0c3afcacef95a/t/5519c04fe4b0b6df0e74b716/1427750995288/)

Is it any wonder?
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: RetroGrouch on July 26, 2017, 01:43:25 pm
Ah yes, sexual harassment training, where we were told that asking someone out after the first rejection was grounds for dismissal due to sexual harassment, unless the way you asked was inappropriate (which was undefined), in which case the first attempt was sexual harassment and grounds for dismissal.


So was telling a female to "stop b____ing" or to "fluff off".  This caused a lot of trouble with crews in the field, who weren't "politically correct", to say the least.


And then there was the attractive young lady who wore low cut mini-dresses and really high heels to work on a regular basis, but didn't want men staring at her.  That resulted in an EEOC investigation of the "hostile workplace".



The picture - what the hell does "consent is more than "yes" even mean??
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 26, 2017, 01:54:02 pm


The picture - what the hell does "consent is more than "yes" even mean??
It means she's going to die bitter and alone, then be eaten by cats. :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 26, 2017, 02:01:00 pm
Ah yes, sexual harassment training, where we were told that asking someone out after the first rejection was grounds for dismissal due to sexual harassment, unless the way you asked was inappropriate (which was undefined), in which case the first attempt was sexual harassment and grounds for dismissal.


So was telling a female to "stop b____ing" or to "fluff off".  This caused a lot of trouble with crews in the field, who weren't "politically correct", to say the least.


And then there was the attractive young lady who wore low cut mini-dresses and really high heels to work on a regular basis, but didn't want men staring at her.  That resulted in an EEOC investigation of the "hostile workplace".



The picture - what the hell does "consent is more than "yes" even mean??

I don't even know dude  :facepalm.

This white male privilege stuff is some bulls___ if we are the only one's who can get popped with sexual harassment. I want a refund, my privilege card is broken.

It is standard social protocol in Texas that you give men handshakes and give women hugs, but I have noticed that I flip this on its head at work. If I have known a group of colleagues for a long time and am comfortable with them, typically I'll give the guys hugs and the women handshakes. This is of course if they can interact with me at all. I will take my lunch at 0900 if that means I don't have to see or talk with anyone else  >:D. My favourite sound in the world is that of being left the hell alone  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Raptor on July 26, 2017, 02:05:52 pm
The picture - what the hell does "consent is more than "yes" even mean??

It means that you need to stop and ask every X number of minutes (it keeps changing) in case she changes her mind. And if she has, you need to stop immediately. Otherwise you get arrested and charged with rape. And if she changes her mind, but either doesn't tell you or "feels pressured" to say yes when you ask, you need to somehow recognize that she's changed her mind and stop immediately. Otherwise you get arrested and charged with rape. Or if she wakes up the next morning (or a week/two weeks/a month later) and realizes that, while she was okay with it at the time, she now regrets having sex with you. And you get arrested and charged with rape.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 26, 2017, 03:09:47 pm
The way I see it, (and society ought to see it) sex is like riding a taxi.  The choice to get in is yours, and you have to agree on the terms. (affirmative consent)  Once you are in, you can decide that you want out at any time. (where safe)  However... the burden is on you to initiate the exit.  You must explicitly and without ambiguity, tell the driver that you no longer wish to be his passenger, and once you do he has a duty to drop you off at the earliest safe time.  You might have to endure consequences from breaking off the contract, but it is your right.  But... Unless you explicitly state that you want to stop, once you enter into the agreement, it is assumed that the ride will continue until you reach your destination.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 26, 2017, 03:18:25 pm
The way I see it, (and society ought to see it) sex is like riding a taxi.  The choice to get in is yours, and you have to agree on the terms. (affirmative consent)  Once you are in, you can decide that you want out at any time. (where safe)  However... the burden is on you to initiate the exit.  You must explicitly and without ambiguity, tell the driver that you no longer wish to be his passenger, and once you do he has a duty to drop you off at the earliest safe time.  You might have to endure consequences from breaking off the contract, but it is your right.  But... Unless you explicitly state that you want to stop, once you enter into the agreement, it is assumed that the ride will continue until you reach your destination.

Sounds reasonable.

I like it better than the gaining verbal consent between thrusts that feminists seem to be shooting for.

Like Raptor wrote of above, I have heard many cases of retro-active consent and it is scary stuff. How anyone can call something that was consensual two weeks ago, 'rape' is just beyond me.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on July 26, 2017, 03:21:54 pm
The way I see it, (and society ought to see it) sex is like riding a taxi.  The choice to get in is yours, and you have to agree on the terms. (affirmative consent)  Once you are in, you can decide that you want out at any time. (where safe)  However... the burden is on you to initiate the exit.  You must explicitly and without ambiguity, tell the driver that you no longer wish to be his passenger, and once you do he has a duty to drop you off at the earliest safe time.  You might have to endure consequences from breaking off the contract, but it is your right.  But... Unless you explicitly state that you want to stop, once you enter into the agreement, it is assumed that the ride will continue until you reach your destination.

 :rotfl  That's like driving down the freeway at 75 mph, and slamming on the breaks.  Then there's the fact that you still have to pay the fare, up to that point.  But yeah, just like riding in a taxi.   :thumbup1 :rotfl

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 26, 2017, 03:48:19 pm


I like it better than the gaining verbal consent between thrusts that feminists seem to be shooting for.
Maybe the, "Consent is more than 'yes' " statement is just saying it's not really consent if you don't make their toes curl and cause them to speak in tongues?
 
"Yes!"
Thrust
"YES!"
Thrust
"Oh,G_d! YES!!"
Thrust

 :shrug
   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 26, 2017, 04:16:00 pm
:rotfl  That's like driving down the freeway at 75 mph, and slamming on the breaks.  Then there's the fact that you still have to pay the fare, up to that point.  But yeah, just like riding in a taxi.   :thumbup1 :rotfl

Whether they are a promiscuous feminist, an escort, or a traditionally conservative wife, when the matter is concerning women you will always have to pay for it, upfront, no exceptions  :neener.

The world balance isn't right unless men are having their money taken  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on July 26, 2017, 04:29:47 pm
CHRISTOPHER!!!   :o Did you just liken relationships to prostitution!!??  Why you misogynistic, sexist...   I like it!  :clap  :neener :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 26, 2017, 04:35:38 pm
Whether they are a promiscuous feminist, an escort, or a traditionally conservative wife, when the matter is concerning women you will always have to pay for it, upfront, no exceptions  :neener.

The world balance isn't right unless men are having their money taken  :neener.
If it Flies, Floats, or F....... :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on July 26, 2017, 04:51:02 pm
Sounds reasonable.


Which is why feminists will never allow it.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 26, 2017, 04:54:20 pm
CHRISTOPHER!!!   :o Did you just liken relationships to prostitution!!??  Why you misogynistic, sexist...   I like it!  :clap  :neener :rotfl

Yeah, I did  :-[.

I believe at this time I would like that PM with examples you offered  ;). No debate, I promise. Merely I want to explore the evidence for myself.


And without questioning your faith, I can show you several examples where Catholicism and "Christianity" in general, got it wrong.

Also now that school draws closer, we should start having college Christian night again. It's one day out of the week and we alternate with having bible study and then debate every other week. I would like to bring monogamy/marriage up for debate.

I can't help it  :-[, I like to ideologically assault different viewpoints and to philosophically break things.

*Does pagan dance* :rock  >:D

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 26, 2017, 04:56:26 pm


I can't help it  :-[, I like to ideologically assault different viewpoints and to philosophically break things.

*Does pagan dance* :rock  >:D
This is healthy. 
This is how one comes to know rather than simply believe.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 26, 2017, 05:48:06 pm
https://youtu.be/8PdKXTu-er4

Here's a channel that is new to me.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 27, 2017, 01:14:57 am
I feel like I'm reading one of those old reports on Eugenics. I'm not sure all of this 'super science' is all that super... Or accurate...

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BRIFFAULT’S LAW:
The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
There are a few corollaries I would add:

  • Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.
  • Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1)
  • A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male (which is not bloody likely).

Red Pill Logic: Briffault’s law, Bateman and Peak Hypergamy

I read a couple of rational male posts recently that were concerned with Open Hypergamy and Peak Hypergamy, as I was reading them, it became clear that this is a function of what is encapsulated in a quote from my previous article “A Woman’s Resume“: “Men spend their entire lives fighting to get credit for their virtuous behavior, women spend theirs fighting to avoid punishment for their depraved behaviors.”

Hypergamy has historically been controlled through men holding and being able to exercise overt power, often granted by social factors such as religion and tradition. This power would directly control hypergamy through ensuring that women could not engage in their strategy of “Alpha fluffs/Beta Bucks” without significant risk and major consequences. The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne, is a great example of how a woman branded an adulteress, is relegated to a life in poverty and shame as a single mother in a Puritan community in the 1600s. The narrative of the book aside, this exemplifies the risk-reward balance between Alpha fluffs and Beta Bucks. The cost of attaining or attempting to attain high quality genetics from a man with whom she will be unable to secure a long-term relationship is the risk that she will be found out, and thus sacrifice her opportunity to secure beta bucks.

A female victory in the sexual market place is attained through being able to secure both of the end states sought, successful attainment of high quality genetics, and successful attainment of long-term provision. Traditionally, both would be sough from the same man, though the end result of this would be a case of settling in both cases. The mathematics here is simple, if one uses the percentages given by the Pareto Principle, that only 20% of men have the potential alpha genetics, then it follows that either a state of polygamy or a state of reproductive laissez-faire would be required in order for women to secure access to these genetics.

Briffault’s Law and Hypergamy

Men can make as much cheap sperm as they like, however provision is a more costly endeavor. As above, many women can secure high value reproductive material from the same man without any degradation of quality of the material. However, women sharing a provider will result in poorer quality and quantity of provision for each woman as this is a zero-sum game as opposed to the reproductive material, which is not a zero-sum game.
Briffault’s law is famous within the sphere and states that:

The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. — Robert Briffault, The Mothers, Vol. I, p. 191

From the perspective of Alpha fluffs, this means that once the mother has derived the benefit of his genetics, she can derive no further benefit from this association. However, Beta Bucks is a running contribution. In this sense the alphas contribution is momentary, while the beta association is prolonged due to the longer period when provision will be required. This explains the tendency of females to put off sex with beta males, in order to ensure that a long-term commitment to provide will be forthcoming.
Less spoken about in the sphere are the 3 corrolaries to Briffault’s law:

Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.

This is often demonstrated by those Alphas who enjoyed association with the female during her party years, but who have fallen out of favor as she reaches her epiphany phase. Sheryl Sandberg’s famous quote demonstrates this:

“When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. But do not marry them. The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, wants to do his share in the home. These men exist and, trust me, over time, nothing is sexier.” Sheryl Sandberg: “Women, Work and the Will to Lead”

What Sandberg inadvertently states here is that her association with bad boys back in her party years, is no guarantee for her continued or future association with them once she has decided that she wants a husband. Sandberg does lie to both herself and other women in this case, as “Beta Bucks” is the very definition of negotiating attraction, and thus an Alpha widow will never feel the tingles she craves after settling for Beta. This is also true for her association with the beta male, once she no longer receives what she perceives as adequate compensation, she will eject from the union.

Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit.

This is often demonstrated by White Knights and Orbiters in that they do provide benefits to the female but do no receive the benefits of a future association. These males can be viewed in terms of reproduction as Beta Bucks with no benefit gained for themselves. This is a case of prematurely realized hypergamy, wherein the woman engages in a form of Alpha fluffs/Beta Bucks at the same time, deriving beta bucks benefits from orbiters or white knights, while deriving Alpha fluffs optimization from her boyfriend(s).
The third and final correlate to Briffault’s law and perhaps the most complex:

A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male.

What this law states is that a man who makes a promise to a woman of a future benefit, has limited influence depending on trust and time until the woman realizes the benefit. In essence, how long does she have to wait until he pays out, and how likely is he to pay out. This is a classic case of delayed gratification and probability that can be likened to an option, wherein the woman has to perform in order to ensure that the man will pay out. A classic example is an alpha who promises his mistress that he will leave his wife for her once the time is right, over time if her trust is reduced or the perceived benefit declines in value, the promise will hold less sway over her hypergamy.

Bateman’s Principle

Angus John Bateman was an English geneticist that suggested that reproductive variance is greater in males than in females. His argument was that as men can produce millions of sperm with little effort and females invest much more in their eggs, females would be more inherently careful when it comes to reproduction. A human male is capable of producing more offspring by mating with more females, but the female will not realize more offspring by mating with more than one male. In Bateman’s theory this results in sexual selection where men compete with each other and females become choosy about which males to mate with. This means that men are fundamentally promiscuous and females are fundamentally selection.

This finding is often summarized as “Eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap“, perhaps a major difference between humans and the fruit flies that Bateman conducted his research on, is the human life-span and relatively long time gestation and time to maturity for human offspring. At the very least, this creates a necessity for support in the female, both throughout her 9 month long pregnancy, where she is weak and vulnerable, but also for the 10 – 16 years before her children become capable adults.  Our society that is constructed at least to some degree around financial resources, and the role of financial resources to ensure a more risk adjusted life where more reproduction can take place may also contribute.

This creates an interesting dualistic approach, where one could argue that sperm is cheap, but provision is not necessarily so. The energy to produce sperm is negligible, however for a man to dedicate perhaps decades of his life to the provision and protection of a single female, giving up both the ability to maximize his own reproduction, and a large portion of his labor is not. However, this is what marriage represents, a mechanism to enforce a long-term transfer of resources to the woman in exchange for monopolistic access to her eggs.

Now this makes sense, a transaction consisting of expensive resources for expensive eggs, the male is not maximizing his reproductive potential as he gives up other women and thus gives up some volume of offspring. However, the woman is not maximizing her reproductive potential either. She trades some upside from being able to secure varied genetic material for her offspring for security, a classic risk/reward trade-off on both sides of the equation.

Summary and Conclusions

To return to the quote by which this article began, men fight their entire life to get their reward for acting and enabling female sexual strategy as outlined by Briffault’s law and Bateman’s principle. A beta male and an alpha male both provide cheap sperm to fertilize expensive eggs, however, the latter does so at little cost to himself, the former at a massive cost to himself as provision is expensive. The goal of the present paradigm is for men will continue to increase their own sexual market value, while accepting an increasingly raw deal in the mating market, where their contributions are not accurately valued and the female contributions are valued exorbitantly.

Women on the other hand fight their entire lives not to be devalued for the behaviors that have traditionally lead to a drastic reduction in their sexual market value. The acceptance and marketing of single-mothers for instance, a situation in which a new man will not only take on the responsibilities of raising and financing the children of another man, but also has proof that his woman has no problems leaving one man once a better deal presents itself, is core to Briffault’s law and its corollaries.

He will know that she most likely has had three to four times the number of partners than the equivalent woman 50 – 100 years ago, and that she has been raised in a society that is centered on the validation of female entitlement. That if he should find himself years from now facing her in court, and god forbid she has had another child or two by him, he will be raked over the coals for child support as it is better for the state to lay this burden on the individual man, as it knows that there is no such thing as a single-mother who is self-financing. Three variables have been manipulated in order to remove the requirement of females to engage in subterfuge and instead being able to operate in the open.

A) The increasing acceptance of single mothers and female promiscuity in society

This removes from women the need to keep the alpha paternity from their beta bucks partner. While it has always been possible for a woman to secure genetic material of high quality, and get a beta bucks relationship afterwards, she would have to do so without the man knowing. The ability to secure this and land a man who “man’s up” and marries her, is a much more simple solution.
This ensures that a female is free to enjoy the benefit of Briffault’s law.

B) The prevalence of female friendly divorce

The prevalence of female friendly and easy divorce, ensures that the trade-off in B can be ended at the woman’s convenience regardless of whether the other party has upheld their side of the contract. Marriage is after all a contract that is the formalization of defense against the third corollary to Briffault’s law, in that it ensures that both parties uphold their part of the deal.

C) The prevalence of female friendly divorce settlements

This ensures that a woman once she has snared Beta Bucks can divorce him and still derive economic benefits. In essence, alimony and the utilization of child support legislation as defacto alimony, enables a woman to realize the economic benefits from the beta bucks association without having to provide her side of the equation.
This is the embodiment of Briffault’s second and third corollary, in that the female can secure future benefit without offering anything in return.

D) The perspective that females are inherently virtuous and must do what is right for them.

This is an addition to the former three factors and perhaps the core principle that is sought in order to enable female depravity. The veneration of the woman who does what is right for her, is inherently permissive of any behaviors, regardless of consequences to those around her. The ability to be viewed as virtuous despite engaging in behaviors that are impulsive, damaging, destructive and depraved, is a super-power of sorts and requires massive cognitive dissonance on the part of your average blue pill man.

These four factors serve to enable women to engage in their dualistic sexual strategy without fear of repercussions, and without the need for subterfuge. The red pill is the awakening to these behaviors and social developments that seek to alter the balance between the sexes to the point where males will accept steadily poorer deals and women will receive increasingly better deals.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 27, 2017, 02:17:53 am
What part of it do you disagree with?    :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: LowKey on July 27, 2017, 05:31:56 am
What part of it do you disagree with?    :hmm
Ditto.
Unless you find a lady that has more traditional mores and morals that is precisely what you'll be dealing with out there.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 27, 2017, 09:13:24 am
What part of it do you disagree with?    :hmm

I'm surprised at your response, I thought you would have flat laughed at the premise.

Now, keep in mind, I consumed several articles over this matter, so what I say may not be encompassed in just this one article. While women do marry up, most of the articles approach the matter as though women are a code and this theory is the decoder ring. One size fits all. I've also seen women that have stayed with their husbands when they receive no benefit, such as cases when the children have left the house already, and the spouse is too sick to work or have sex.

While I don't think all women are saints, the last several articles I've read have given them a sub human quality that I don't necessarily agree with.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 27, 2017, 10:27:56 am
https://youtu.be/5iGsrpIKTAo

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Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 27, 2017, 11:28:12 am
https://youtu.be/aEP3NBN_tYM
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 27, 2017, 11:43:21 pm
I'm surprised at your response, I thought you would have flat laughed at the premise.

Now, keep in mind, I consumed several articles over this matter, so what I say may not be encompassed in just this one article. While women do marry up, most of the articles approach the matter as though women are a code and this theory is the decoder ring. One size fits all. I've also seen women that have stayed with their husbands when they receive no benefit, such as cases when the children have left the house already, and the spouse is too sick to work or have sex.

While I don't think all women are saints, the last several articles I've read have given them a sub human quality that I don't necessarily agree with.
I agree with your observations as I have some that parallel them but you have to remember that they are just that - our own personal observations.  Some of them can be thought of as corollaries to the main points made in your posted article - others fall outside the statistical norm.  In any event, I think the article makes some salient points about the female population - especially in the last few decades.  I don't think the observation renders them "sub human".   

Once you introduce the concept of moral relativism and abandon traditional social structures when raising children you have no reason to expect that they will turn out like their parents and grandparents.  Some will but many will not and without any of the aforementioned structure to build a life around the default position for many women - especially ones of child bearing age - will come to look remarkably similar to what is outlined in the article.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 28, 2017, 12:08:47 am
I agree with your observations as I have some that parallel them but you have to remember that they are just that - our own personal observations.  Some of them can be thought of as corollaries to the main points made in your posted article - others fall outside the statistical norm.  In any event, I think the article makes some salient points about the female population - especially in the last few decades.  I don't think the observation renders them "sub human".   

Once you introduce the concept of moral relativism and abandon traditional social structures when raising children you have no reason to expect that they will turn out like their parents and grandparents.  Some will but many will not and without any of the aforementioned structure to build a life around the default position for many women - especially ones of child bearing age - will come to look remarkably similar to what is outlined in the article.

Ok, so we are both what MGTOW would call "NAWALTing". So you and I mostly agree.

You say that some women are good (which so am I), obviously you wouldn't have married if you didn't think there were any good women.

You say that this current generation basically "doesn't make them like they used to", I very well may also agree with that. I mean, I haven't necessarily jumped into marriage with anyone yet and yet I have seen a pretty good sample of the millennial female. The thing that I find to be interesting is that the vestiges of Trad Con values are still present, we have quite a few young women who are saving sex for marriage, for instance. Yet despite this, they are still just as self centered and materialistic as ever. I feel something has gotten lost in translation when communicating previous generations values, or... Something  :hmm.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on July 28, 2017, 12:27:10 am
Ok, so we are both what MGTOW would call "NAWALTing". So you and I mostly agree.

You say that some women are good (which so am I), obviously you wouldn't have married if you didn't think there were any good women.

You say that this current generation basically "doesn't make them like they used to", I very well may also agree with that. I mean, I haven't necessarily jumped into marriage with anyone yet and yet I have seen a pretty good sample of the millennial female. The thing that I find to be interesting is that the vestiges of Trad Con values are still present, we have quite a few young women who are saving sex for marriage, for instance. Yet despite this, they are still just as self centered and materialistic as ever. I feel something has gotten lost in translation when communicating previous generations values, or... Something  :hmm.

I also think many folks look backwards with some heavily rose tinted googles.

If you can get a pretty good sample of histories and get older generations to talk openly. There were tons of mistresses/cheating and girls having babies less than 9 months after getting married. The older generations just didn't talk about those things. It was personal business to be handled by those folks and not spoke of openly. It was also common for folks to be married and hate each other. It was just easier to wait for death than be socially chastised.

That arranged marriages and marriages for 'love' both roll out with similar divorce rates should have some impact on how you view love and marriage.

It is somewhat like fighting. You can train, work and study to improve your odds, but at some point you just got go for it with gusto and hope to win.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 28, 2017, 12:57:42 am
Ok, so we are both what MGTOW would call "NAWALTing". So you and I mostly agree.

You say that some women are good (which so am I), obviously you wouldn't have married if you didn't think there were any good women.

You say that this current generation basically "doesn't make them like they used to", I very well may also agree with that. I mean, I haven't necessarily jumped into marriage with anyone yet and yet I have seen a pretty good sample of the millennial female. The thing that I find to be interesting is that the vestiges of Trad Con values are still present, we have quite a few young women who are saving sex for marriage, for instance. Yet despite this, they are still just as self centered and materialistic as ever. I feel something has gotten lost in translation when communicating previous generations values, or... Something  :hmm.
Ok, so we are both what MGTOW would call "NAWALTing". So you and I mostly agree.

You say that some women are good (which so am I), obviously you wouldn't have married if you didn't think there were any good women.

You say that this current generation basically "doesn't make them like they used to", I very well may also agree with that. I mean, I haven't necessarily jumped into marriage with anyone yet and yet I have seen a pretty good sample of the millennial female. The thing that I find to be interesting is that the vestiges of Trad Con values are still present, we have quite a few young women who are saving sex for marriage, for instance. Yet despite this, they are still just as self centered and materialistic as ever. I feel something has gotten lost in translation when communicating previous generations values, or... Something  :hmm.
Well, absolutism is a sucker bet and there is the fact that people can change - sometimes radically - once they become convinced that they are in need of it. 

The problem with the landscape today is well stated in the "Summary and Conclusions" section of the article you posted.  That is a completely different set of parameters than the vast majority of Americans grew up with in the post WWII years and even up through the early 1980's .  A book was published back in the 1960's titled "None Dare Call it Treason" and while I don't agree with everything said by the author of that book, I took an idea from it that remains true to this day.  If what has been done to this country by our public officials was forced upon us by some other country it would be considered an act of war.   

Post modernism, moral and social relativism, revisionist history  and the abandonment of anything resembling our former standards in literally everything from education to the conduct of our public officials have combined to effect changes in our society that we would never accept from a foreign invader.   Its not new.  This has been going on for over a century at this point but the pace of the transformation is accelerating and even the most disconnected of us have finally begun to realize it.  " I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore, Toto!"    :scrutiny

I think Samuel Adams probably said it as well as anybody.  The man was as close to an American prophet as has ever been born. 

" It is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice.  For they cannot live in any country where virtue and knowledge prevail.  The religion and public liberty of a people are intimately connected; their interests are interwoven, they cannot subsist separately; and therefore they rise and fall together.  For this reason, it is always observable, that those who are combin'd to destroy the peoples liberties, practice every art to poison their morals."   

'Nuff said.    :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 28, 2017, 01:01:44 am
I also think many folks look backwards with some heavily rose tinted googles.

If you can get a pretty good sample of histories and get older generations to talk openly. There were tons of mistresses/cheating and girls having babies less than 9 months after getting married. The older generations just didn't talk about those things. It was personal business to be handled by those folks and not spoke of openly. It was also common for folks to be married and hate each other. It was just easier to wait for death than be socially chastised.

That arranged marriages and marriages for 'love' both roll out with similar divorce rates should have some impact on how you view love and marriage.

It is somewhat like fighting. You can train, work and study to improve your odds, but at some point you just got go for it with gusto and hope to win.   
True to some degree but I don't think you can make the case that we haven't seen a wholesale increase in that kind of thing over the last fifty years or so.   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 28, 2017, 01:47:58 am
True to some degree but I don't think you can make the case that we haven't seen a wholesale increase in that kind of thing over the last fifty years or so.   :hmm
Maybe or maybe not, but what we certainly have seen is an outright acceptance of what past generations would consider outrageous/morally objectionable/scandalous, etc.  Shacking up?  No one bats an eye.  Unwed mother?  What else is new...  Gluttony?  What's that?:facepalm   Homosexuals?  They're people too.  Drug addiction?  Not their fault.  Transgenders Mental illness?  Just read this thread.

Not only is this crap acceptable now, but certain segments of the population celebrate them as good things.  THAT would be the problem.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 28, 2017, 07:28:10 pm
As promised here is my meagre attempt at fisking an article. My blood boils just reading it. Mine is the italics text.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1331925/Lottery-winner-Nigel-Page-pay-ex-wife-2m-left-10-years-ago.html

£56m lottery winner ordered to pay £2m to ex-wife even though she left him for another man... TEN YEARS ago


•   Former wife is thought to have wanted £8million
•   First lottery winner successfully sued by an ex-partner

A lottery winner has been left appalled after the wife who left him for another man ten years ago was able to grab £2million of his winnings.

I would be too. That’s bulls___… Not to mention theft.

Nigel Page, who won the £56million Euromillions jackpot earlier this year, is said to have been planning a generous gift to his former wife.
But this wasn’t enough for Wendy Page, 43, who decided to take legal action against him for more.

I think I’m beginning to see why they broke up. Why in the hell would he plan any kind of a gift for this woman? Dude, give a couple of mil to your current sweet heart and set your daughter up with something nice.

Sources close to the winner’s family say she had wanted £8million, but settled for a quarter of that in an out-of-court deal. She was due to receive the money into her bank account yesterday.
Mr Page – said to have been shocked by the legal threat – offered to put the £2million in a trust fund for their 13-year-old daughter. This was vetoed.

Once again. WTF? What kind of laws do Britain have where adulterous exes have the right to your money, yet you can’t give your own children money?

Mr Page, 44, a former property maintenance worker, landed Britain’s third biggest lottery win in February, when an online lucky dip ticket won him half of a £113million Euromillions prize.
He and his partner Justine Laycock, 42, celebrated by getting married shortly after the win.
They moved into a £4million six-bedroom eco-home with 25-seat cinema and an indoor swimming pool near the Cotswold village of Barnsley and count Liz Hurley and Kate Moss as neighbours.
They gave their £235,000 home in Cirencester, Gloucestershire, to their former cleaner, and the couple are known to have helped local charities and friends with payouts.

Mr. Page sounds like a good guy. Big ups to them for giving back to the community :thumbup1 .

But Mrs Page, a human resources director at an investment firm, went to see lawyers after it emerged her ex-husband planned to give money to other relatives.

And I’m sure it just pissed her off to see him happy and doing well smh. How dare he try to live his life and help other people?!? What a real bastard.

Their 11-year marriage collapsed in 2000 and she now lives in a waterside home in the Cotswolds. She is also believed to have secured a large increase in maintenance payments for their daughter – from £150 a month to £2,000 – and was seen just before her monster pay day with another man and a bottle of champagne.
Mr Page is thought to be the first lottery-winning husband in the UK to be successfully sued for a slice of his winnings.

This is not something good. Why is this a thing?

Yesterday a source close to him said: ‘Nigel feels very hurt. The last seven months have been horrendous for him.
‘Up to this point everyone got on pretty well. But what Wendy has done has ruined everything.
‘Nigel has always provided for their daughter. Even when he was out of work he made sure she was all right. And right from the start Wendy was going to get a big gift.’

Why Nigel? Why give her anything? If this c___ loved you as much as she loves money, then she never would have left you.

Mr Page is thought to have agreed to the settlement rather than face the prospect of a larger payout to his ex-wife in court.

No! Why?! Money is power in the legal system! I would rather blow 10 million dollars on destroying her in court than to pay her anything. She would lose this war of attrition, Nigel, what is wrong with you? Giving in only encourages people like this. George W. Bush said it himself “We do not negotiate with terrorists or gold digging hoes”. It’s like fighting a bully, you don’t have to win, but you make the game not fun for them. If you make it painful enough, then they’ll move onto terrorising someone else.

A relative yesterday confirmed that the couple failed to include a legally-binding ‘clean break’ clause at the time of their divorce.
The out-of-court settlement is understood to include a gagging order preventing either party from talking about it. Nigel Page and his wife are said to have split after Mr Page found a text message on his wife’s phone from one of her colleagues.
Mrs Page left the family home, taking the couple’s then three-year-old child with her. The friend said: ‘They have tried to keep things amicable over the years for the sake of the child. But this legal battle has taken its toll.

‘Amicable’ is trying to one sidedly take a dude’s money? She should consider working for the government.

‘Wendy’s relationship with the man she left Nigel for lasted two years.’
Another friend added of Mr Page’s first marriage: ‘Nigel didn’t want it to end. He was heartbroken for years until he met Justine. But he still provided for his daughter, taking her on holidays and being as good a dad as possible.

Of course he did. You can tell he’s a good guy, cos he’s getting jerked around in court. Good men always get jerked around in the gynocentrically biased court system. If he would have used his new found financial power to defend himself, then counter sue her (and throw in a few good character aspersions to show how petty she actually was for suing him in the first place), then maybe he could have even gotten full custody of his daughter. Why risk having her raised by someone that pathologically entitled anyways?

‘Nigel was prepared to give Wendy £1million. She didn’t think it was enough. It’s put a real dampener on everything at a time when he and Justine should be enjoying life.’

Of course she didn’t think it was enough. Trying to keep people like this happy is like feeding logs into a fire and waiting for it to stop accepting them because it is ‘full’.

Last night, Nigel Page’s father, who lives in Cirencester, described his son’s reaction to handing over the large sum of money to his former wife.
Brian Page said: ‘He’s unhappy about what has happened. Our priority at the moment is our granddaughter.’

Unhappy? Yeah, I’m pretty certain that getting fluffed out of a couple million by my adulterous wife that I haven’t seen in a decade would put a real cramp in my ass too.

Wendy Page, who works for St James’s Place Wealth Management in Cirencester, refused to discuss the settlement.

And why would she? She’s done every sort of mental heuristic to convince herself that she got what she ‘deserved’. She was ‘justified’ in her behaviour. Judging from all the mental gymnastics going on here, I bet the inside of this woman’s head has a jungle gym and a palm horse.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on July 28, 2017, 09:39:28 pm
True to some degree but I don't think you can make the case that we haven't seen a wholesale increase in that kind of thing over the last fifty years or so.   :hmm

If you thinks today's world is somehow worse than 1967... The entire 60s was just a depraved mess for the most part.

The teen birth rate and overall birthrates have declined since the 1960s just like violence. If you go by per capita most of the 'bad' things have went down over time.

Those rose colored glasses are hard for folks to remove.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 29, 2017, 02:53:57 am
Well, I don't know where you spent that time but my experience was that a lot of the " depraved mess " was something we read about in the newspaper or heard about on the Huntley-Brinkley Report on TV in the evenings.  All was not sweetness and light all around us but the situation was a lot different than the big cities.   I think its not so much a matter of me having "rose colored glasses" on as it is having a different experience than yours.   I doubt that the statistics you refer to would hold true across the board.   Maybe on a national level but certainly there would be considerable variation depending on various regions and demographics.   You're welcome to your opinion but it doesn't change the history I lived through.    :coffee

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 29, 2017, 09:31:06 am
As promised here is my meagre attempt at fisking an article. My blood boils just reading it. Mine is the italics text.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1331925/Lottery-winner-Nigel-Page-pay-ex-wife-2m-left-10-years-ago.html

£56m lottery winner ordered to pay £2m to ex-wife even though she left him for another man... TEN YEARS ago

He gave in because he is weak.  If he had the stones, he would have gone to court out of principle, realizing that he could easily get by even if he lost the whole 8m.  Some people are terrified of going to court - he is one of them, his ex knew this, and knew he would cave in.  Poor sucker.  If he was half a man, he would use a tiny fraction of his new wealth to have his ex wife 'convinced' that she did not want to pursue a lawsuit.

Of course, seeing as he and his new wife 'celebrated by getting married shortly after the win,' I have no doubt that he will be getting hosed again in the future. :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 29, 2017, 09:45:02 am
If you thinks today's world is somehow worse than 1967... The entire 60s was just a depraved mess for the most part.

The teen birth rate and overall birthrates have declined since the 1960s just like violence. If you go by per capita most of the 'bad' things have went down over time.
Your 'numbers' are probably accurate, and I have no doubt that Coelacanth's recollection of his experiences is as well.  The thing is, while teen births may have been higher, they were not celebrated then, as they are now.  Whereas now a teen 'star' proudly shows off her 'baby bump' to all of her adoring 13 year old girl fans, then it was more kept in the closet.  For instance, one of our family friends was born a bastard back in '65, and she once related to us how her mother's family shunned them, (the father literally skipped town and never acknowledged her) and how when she was small, the neighbor children were not allowed to play with her on account of her status.

This may be an extreme example, but I think this illustrates just how frowned upon illegitimate births were, whether they happened more often or not.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 29, 2017, 10:28:27 am
To add to y'alls point, I would like to add this video. Even some things that would be discussed in the family (and behind closed doors)must now be 'sensationalised' and in full view of the public  :bash.

Societey has become hypersexualised, hypermaterialistic, expresses lack of restrain, and everything must now be a public spectacle.

I'm not even sure this falls into the category of being SJW's anymore.

https://youtu.be/-0vPqxSVaG4

Andy Warski also has a post on his channel where he discusses the above video.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 29, 2017, 10:57:28 am
https://youtu.be/L254KuLx-4Y

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I had serious heatstroke and was sleep-deprived and hungover (and yes, I'd been drinking).

The night before, I was up until about 4 talking with people. At 7 I stumbled down to the lobby to give Erin Pizzey and Anne Cools a ride to the venue. Erin took one look at me and told me to go back to bed. I slept for another couple hours, then got up, went to the venue and gave my speech. Then VICE cornered me for an interview. They chose the balcony, with me standing in full sun mid-afternoon during a heatwave in summer in Detroit. For over an hour.

That's where my sunburn came from.

I go back to the hotel after dinner, wring out my black, 3/4 sleeve shirt and man-made fibre pants, change into the tank and jeans. Go down to the lobby. People are buying me drinks. Cassie says, "we're just setting up out in the courtyard, we should be ready for you soon." I go out there at around 10:30 or something so they can aim their cameras and adjust their lighting, and just as we're about to start, the concierge comes out and says, "um, I'm sorry, but we're closing the courtyard down in 15 minutes. You can't be out here."

So they have to tear everything down and find a new spot and set everything back up again. If I recall correctly, it was around midnight by the time we even started the interview.

All things considered, though, I was actually more coherent in this than I was delivering my speech at the Wisconsin Libertarian Party's annual convention. - Karen
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on July 29, 2017, 03:55:05 pm
Your 'numbers' are probably accurate, and I have no doubt that Coelacanth's recollection of his experiences is as well.  The thing is, while teen births may have been higher, they were not celebrated then, as they are now.  Whereas now a teen 'star' proudly shows off her 'baby bump' to all of her adoring 13 year old girl fans, then it was more kept in the closet.  For instance, one of our family friends was born a bastard back in '65, and she once related to us how her mother's family shunned them, (the father literally skipped town and never acknowledged her) and how when she was small, the neighbor children were not allowed to play with her on account of her status.

This may be an extreme example, but I think this illustrates just how frowned upon illegitimate births were, whether they happened more often or not.

So our society has swung too far, but a society that pushes a child to be an untouchable simply because of how it was born seems no better.

You just always have to be careful looking 'back'. Most folks forget the bad things OR purposely omit them. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: freeman1685 on July 29, 2017, 04:05:16 pm
Nah, we don't forget the bad, we just choose to emphasize the good, and learn from the bad.  I don't quite remember the 60's, being born in '63.  But I do remember the 70's, and when it came to some little girl wanting her way, it was the same as the 60's.  All she had to do was wiggle it in the right guy's face, and well, you can guess the rest.  Numbers notwithstanding, it's the same today, prison is full of poor fluffers who couldn't resist the urge.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on July 29, 2017, 04:12:20 pm
Well, I don't know where you spent that time but my experience was that a lot of the " depraved mess " was something we read about in the newspaper or heard about on the Huntley-Brinkley Report on TV in the evenings.  All was not sweetness and light all around us but the situation was a lot different than the big cities.   I think its not so much a matter of me having "rose colored glasses" on as it is having a different experience than yours.   I doubt that the statistics you refer to would hold true across the board.   Maybe on a national level but certainly there would be considerable variation depending on various regions and demographics.   You're welcome to your opinion but it doesn't change the history I lived through.    :coffee

I assumed we were talking about the national level as you referred to it as 'on the whole'. It may have been a happy rose garden in your neck of the woods. 

It is just hard to forget what the elders in my family always said. The 'good ole days' were bad, and the world has only got better everyday they were alive.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 29, 2017, 11:03:35 pm
Fair enough.   :thumbup1   I don't remember saying "on the whole" in this context but its not like those words have never been uttered by me. 

In any event, This thread would not be nearly as active as it is unless we all felt that something was clearly amiss. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 30, 2017, 10:34:08 am
Poor sucker.  If he was half a man, he would use a tiny fraction of his new wealth to have his ex wife 'convinced' that she did not want to pursue a lawsuit.

Reading back over this and I want to clarify. Are you saying that he should have written a cheque to her without getting the courts involved? Just buckle to pressure without the lawyer fees? Because that doesn't sound very dignified either.

Or suggesting that he hire someone else's services to give her stern counseling as to why she really doesn't want to involve the legal system? I don't advocate that approach, because it's not above board, but with money like that I'm sure that the option would be open to him.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on July 30, 2017, 10:47:35 am
Or suggesting that he hire someone else's services to give her stern counseling as to why she really doesn't want to involve the legal system?
Yes.  The level of counseling required could be tailored to how obstinate she decided to be.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 30, 2017, 05:21:09 pm
https://youtu.be/hNDYhANgWcQ

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on July 30, 2017, 05:38:32 pm
Interesting.  Its a fairly concise distillation of Karen's point of view - which is really, really hard to argue against in any sort of fact based discussion. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 30, 2017, 05:52:09 pm
Interesting.  Its a fairly concise distillation of Karen's point of view - which is really, really hard to argue against in any sort of fact based discussion. 

Agreed. Karen has greatly changed my views and I think in many ways, she has made me safer as a young man who hopes to get into the serious dating arena with women with in the next couple of years  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 30, 2017, 05:52:21 pm
I haven't gotten to the other half of it yet, but if you liked the first bit. It continues on here at 7:36.

https://youtu.be/uGbM1C_kJIc 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 31, 2017, 03:38:59 pm
https://youtu.be/Nv4jnWYCuEs

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I'm always advocating for men to have their eyes open and be aware of what's going on today. Even if one is placing their head in a noose willingly, just do it with your eyes open guys. If after an honest risk assessment you still want to marry, then hey, it's your life. - huMAN.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on July 31, 2017, 04:03:57 pm
https://youtu.be/NJeNDIwit88

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 01, 2017, 01:28:16 pm
https://youtu.be/CWlqQy4vEus

From the bible to cultural disrespect, then post modernism, and patriarchy.

He moves fast  :eh .
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 01, 2017, 02:06:51 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/09/nazi-pug-man-arrested-after-teaching-girlfriends-dog-to-perform/

https://youtu.be/SYslEzHbpus

https://youtu.be/B0wIR6cDenM

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Nazi pug: Man arrested after teaching girlfriend's dog to perform Hitler salute as a 'prank'

Adam Boult
9 May 2016 • 3:59pm


A Scottish man who provoked outrage after filming his girlfriend's dog responding to Nazi slogans has been arrested by Lanarkshire police.

Earlier this year Markus Meechan uploaded a video of the dog, a pug named Buddah,  responding to the phrase "gas the Jews," raising its paw in an imitation Nazi salute when it heard the words "Sieg Heil", and viewing footage of Hitler giving a speech.
In the Youtube clip, titled M8 Yer Dugs A Nazi, Meechan says: "My girlfriend is always ranting and raving about how cute her dog is so I thought I would turn her into the least cute thing you could think of which is a Nazi."

When the video was first uploaded last month Meechan denied being racist, and insisted he'd made the video solely to annoy his girlfriend, saying: "I am so sorry to the Jewish community for any offence I have caused them. This was never my intention and I apologise."​ ​

He has since declined to comment further
However, a spokeswoman for the Scottish Council of Jewish Communities told the Daily Mirror: "Antisemitism is not something that can in any degree be regarded as a joke.

"It is a form of racism which needs to be condemned just as we would any other form of racism, just as we would condemn Islamophobia or anti-African racism."

Ephraim Borowski, director of  the Scottish Council of Jewish Communities added: "To regard the meticulously planned and industrialised murder of six million people solely on the grounds of their ethnicity as a joke is outrageous, and for someone who does so to claim not to be racist, beggars belief."

It has now emerged that Meechan was arrested on April 28 at his house in Coatbridge, Lanarkshire. He was subsequently released pending further investigations.

Detective Inspector David Cockburn of Lanarkshire CID said: “This clip was shared online and has been viewed almost one million times.

“I would ask anyone who has had the misfortune to have viewed it to think about the pain and hurt the narrative has caused a minority of people in our community.

“The clip is deeply offensive and no reasonable person can possibly find the content acceptable in today’s society.
“This arrest should serve as a warning to anyone posting such material online, or in any other capacity, that such views will not be tolerated.”
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 01, 2017, 02:21:31 pm
Let's just soak this in for a moment. Dude starts off a video saying that he is making the dog into the least cute thing he can think of, a Nazi. He begins by saying that he doesn't support Nazi's and then proceeds to teach a dog a trick, ask it a question, and have it watch television. No one was physically hurt.

He is arrested, accused of hate speech, fired from his job and has his life ruined by virtue signaling.

Then we have radical muslim terrorists who do want to kill all the jew (and Christians, etc), who are driving their 'trucks of peace' through the streets over there, and who are causing actual harm to society and are a threat. Yet they are hailed as victims and we get "#notallmuslims" after actual blood is shed?

Ok, just wanted to get that one straight.


Either this PC world has gone crazy or the administration there are, for lack of a better term, pussies who do not know how to combat the actual threats of terrorism, so they pick on some Scottish guy with a little pug dog.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 01, 2017, 02:31:38 pm
https://youtu.be/cbPdMZ5XQcY
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 01, 2017, 02:34:10 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/04/28/uk-cops-arrest-man-for-quoting-churchill/

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UK Cops Arrest Man for Quoting Winston Churchill
by Nick Hallett28 Apr 2014

The leader of an anti-immigration pressure group has been arrested for quoting Winston Churchill. Paul Weston, chairman of LibertyGB, was taken into custody in Winchester, southern England, after delivering a speech in which he quoted an excerpt from the wartime Prime Minister’s book The River War.
Addressing a gathering of people from the steps of Winchester Guildhall, Weston quoted the passage:

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“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.”

A woman came of the Guildhall and asked Weston if he had authorisation to make the speech. He replied that he did not, at which point she called him “disgusting” and called the police. At least six police officers arrived, questioned by-standers and arrested Weston and took him away. Britain’s ITV News is now reporting the story.

LibertyGB claims that Weston spent several hours at Winchester Police Station, after which the original charge of breaching a Section 27 Dispersal Notice was dropped. Weston was “re-arrested” for a Racially Aggravated Crime, under Section 4 of the Public Order Act, which carries a potential prison sentence of 2 years.
He was fingerprinted and obliged to submit to DNA sampling, following which he was bailed with a return date to Winchester Police on May 24th.

LibertyGB was set up in 2013 by disaffected supporters of the British National Party. It is one of several groups that were founded as the BNP disintegrated, and is standing candidates in forthcoming European Elections.
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The River War, written in 1899, recounts Churchill’s experiences as a British Army Officer in the Anglo-Sudan War of 1881-1899. Churchill is still regarded in high esteem by most of the British public, with a 2002 BBC poll voting him the greatest Briton of all time.
Earlier this month, Breitbart London reported on a demonstration by Islamist extremists at London’s Regent’s Park Mosque where no one was arrested, despite protesters shouting hateful and extremist slogans. Despite a female BBC journalist being “man handled” by Islamist demonstrators who “pushed and shoved her” while “trying to knock the camera out of her hand”, the police did not intervene.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: stephendutton on August 01, 2017, 02:35:26 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/09/nazi-pug-man-arrested-after-teaching-girlfriends-dog-to-perform/

https://youtu.be/SYslEzHbpus

https://youtu.be/B0wIR6cDenM


This case seems to still be dragging on with the trial being postponed repeatedly. I think it's going on about now.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on August 01, 2017, 03:46:37 pm
Let's just soak this in for a moment. Dude starts off a video saying that he is making the dog into the least cute thing he can think of, a Nazi. He begins by saying that he doesn't support Nazi's and then proceeds to teach a dog a trick, ask it a question, and have it watch television. No one was physically hurt.

He is arrested, accused of hate speech, fired from his job and has his life ruined by virtue signaling.
-1. That was the lamest video that you have posted yet.  The guy did little more than talk to the dog.  The dog responded, what, a few times?  Lame. 
-2. One look at the way he carries himself, and if I were the judge he would be found 'guilty,' just so I could sentence him to 'a bath, a shave, and a haircut.'  :scrutiny

Then we have radical muslim terrorists who do want to kill all the jew (and Christians, etc), who are driving their 'trucks of peace' through the streets over there, and who are causing actual harm to society and are a threat. Yet they are hailed as victims and we get "#notallmuslims" after actual blood is shed?

Ok, just wanted to get that one straight.

Either this PC world has gone crazy...
You are calling it correctly.  Far too much weight is given to political correctness, to the point where we are allowing ourselves to be destroyed, to accommodate the 'feelings' of the same animals who would execute us for blasphemy, apostasy, heresy, or any number of things, if only they were in the majority.

I'm going to say something now that may be unpopular: We need a modern day Hitler.

Before you break out the pitchforks, I will clarify: Hitler was the worst of men - evil incarnate - and nothing can make what he did 'good.'  But why he did it, is what I admire.  He did it for his people.  His Volk.  The (real or imagined) argument against the jews was that they were a subversive poison to German culture and civilization, and the justification for the war was to 'defend' the homeland and secure it.  We know this is BS, and much of it was likely populist rhetoric...  but...  that is what we need Now, in our own nations.

Right now, we DO have a crippling, subversive poison in the veins of this nation, and western civilization as a whole.  Just read this thread for proof.  Now we DO have invading armies that threaten our homelands, our culture, and our way of life.  And like so many nations before us, we too have our Quislings and our Petains, that throw open the doors for our enemies.  We go so far outside of logic and reality to 'prove' that we are not racist, islamophobe, homophobe, transphobe, whatever... that we lose sight of what is real.  What is true.

What is true, is that some things are incompatible with our culture.  Islam, in its current form, is one of them.  Islam must be given an ultimatum by the west: Get your house in order, or we will tear it down.  Force the imams and the like to keep the peace, or risk the wrath of the state and the public.  A muslim terrorist kills five people?  500 non-citizen muslims are deported to the nastiest hellhole on earth, and the mosque that he attended is demolished, the property given to the victims' families.  The problem would self-correct in a hurry.

And if it does not self-correct..?  Then that is where a modern day Hitler comes in.  If a group, a religion, or a people are harming your own... they must be eliminated.  This is not the first choice of methods, and never should be, but it must always remain an option on the table.  This is where I get controversial: How many of their lives, is each of our lives worth?  As in, how many muslims (for instance, substitute any other group) should we be willing to kill, if the direct result is that ONE of our people is saved?  How many innocent muslims, in cold blood?  To defend my family, my friends, my people, my nation, and my country, in that order?

This is hypothetical, but if you knew that 100 American citizens' lives were in the balance, how many innocent muslims: men, women, and children, would you kill, if you knew 100% that their deaths would save your people?  What if the nameless Americans were your family instead?  How many would you kill to keep them alive?  It would be easy if the muslims (or whatever group) were all the enemy - the answer could then be all of them - but how do we weigh the value of one life against another?

I will give you my answer: If the only way to protect my family was to kill them, and I had the power to do so, I would kill every single of the one billion muslims on earth.  One billion lives against those few who I call my own.  And I would sleep well at night.  If that is not your answer as well, than I am sorry that I know you.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Raptor on August 01, 2017, 06:30:25 pm
Sorry, but I won't be party to the wholesale extermination of an entire religion because of a few (more than a few, but still a minority of) bad eggs. Nor am I really keen on rallying behind any sort of strongman leader.

IMO, we need to get tough on the terrorists. But we can't kill them. That makes them martyrs. Instead, we should make them beggars, i.e. remove their genitals, thumbs, eyes, and tongues, and then dump them back in whatever country they came from. It's been a while since I've read any on Col. Tom Kratman's books, but IIRC they'll be considered useless invalids, untouchables, as it were, despised by their culture and civilization. Brutal? Absolutely. Inhumane? Probably. But it sends a message: if you f*** with The Great Satan, he will turn you into an abomination in the eyes of Allah.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 01, 2017, 09:23:52 pm
I don't think anyone was asking you to be a party to wholesale slaughter.  I believe Kaso was just pointing out what he thought was a reasonable and acceptable course of action given the parameters of his example.  Your own solution would likely not pass constitutional muster under the prohibition against "cruel and unusual punishment".   

I think the better course would be to turn their own tactics against them.  Convert or die.  Taqiyya, kitman and bukhari should be the order of the day.  Root them out and persecute all who refuse until they renounce or are banished to an Islamic state.  If the Islamic states refuse them admission inform them that they can either accept the gift of more believers or forfeit their holy sites beginning with the al-Aqsa Mosque, the Dome of the Rock and the Dome of the Chain in Jerusalem.  If there is further resistance inform them that Medina and Mecca will be utterly destroyed.  If they wish to negotiate at that point they will do so only after they have accepted the excess believers into their territories.

If you wish Islam to change, make the muslim change it himself.  Barring that you are deluding yourself. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on August 01, 2017, 11:25:37 pm
The problem with any hypothetical is that you 'know' the outcome. It is rare in life that you 'know' something for certain.

The vast majority of decisions are made with partial evidence and minimal experience at best. It only gets worse from there.

I hope that the Islamic situation solves itself with some time and gentle persuasion. The more I see the less likely I see that happening. We have used nukes before to help an enemy submit in their best interest and ours. That time may come again.

The great bears are sleeping right now. You can only poke some many times.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on August 01, 2017, 11:45:08 pm
The problem with any hypothetical is that you 'know' the outcome. It is rare in life that you 'know' something for certain.
Indeed, which is why I asked it that way.  Start with a pure question, and you have a chance of a pure answer.  No 'but ifs.'
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 01, 2017, 11:51:14 pm
The problem with any hypothetical is that you 'know' the outcome. It is rare in life that you 'know' something for certain.

The vast majority of decisions are made with partial evidence and minimal experience at best. It only gets worse from there.

I hope that the Islamic situation solves itself with some time and gentle persuasion. The more I see the less likely I see that happening. We have used nukes before to help an enemy submit in their best interest and ours. That time may come again.

The great bears are sleeping right now. You can only poke some many times.

Correct.  The only thing we "know" at this point is the situation is becoming untenable.   It sort of makes me wonder what a billion muslims and a billion Chinese who aren't having any of it would look like.   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on August 02, 2017, 12:07:04 am
Indeed, which is why I asked it that way.  Start with a pure question, and you have a chance of a pure answer.  No 'but ifs.'

It also means you never know the true heart of the person either. When there are no 'but if' the evil carried out is always justified. It allows an individual to be naive in the ways of evil.

If you have not read  Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland then you should. It will tell you exactly what good, normal men will do when naive of the evil they commit.

Unless the actions I am doing may not be justified. Then there can be no 'pureness' to the answer. A pure answer is the one you give when you may be committing great evil with no justification.

Many gym heroes feel justified talking about how much better they are than the champ. There are few that are pure enough to 'know' they are better than the champion and step in the ring. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on August 02, 2017, 12:13:14 am
Correct.  The only thing we "know" at this point is the situation is becoming untenable.   It sort of makes me wonder what a billion muslims and a billion Chinese who aren't having any of it would look like.   :hmm

Many, many dead muslims is what it would look like IMO.

There are already Identitarian movements starting in many places in Europe. Perhaps there will be another Napoleon this time instead of a Hitler. Since it seems the strongest movements seem to be in France right now. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 02, 2017, 12:19:14 am
Methinks a little Charles Martel would be a good thing about now.    :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on August 02, 2017, 12:27:30 am
Methinks a little Charles Martel would be a good thing about now.    :coffee

Well, there is a caliphate right now. So it would be a nice bow to tie history back into a knot. Hopefully it doesn't start feudalism back up tho.  ;)
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 02, 2017, 12:33:33 am
We already got that.  They call 'em "sanctuary cities" .  .  .   :coffee   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 02, 2017, 12:36:13 am
Correct.  The only thing we "know" at this point is the situation is becoming untenable.   It sort of makes me wonder what a billion muslims and a billion Chinese who aren't having any of it would look like.   :hmm

This is what I'm interested in as well. America will not stand up to radical terrorism no matter what. It's going to be China, Russia, or some part of Europe.

And when it does go off, I don't think our nation will have a say one way or the other.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Plebian on August 02, 2017, 02:06:37 am
This is what I'm interested in as well. America will not stand up to radical terrorism no matter what. It's going to be China, Russia, or some part of Europe.

And when it does go off, I don't think our nation will have a say one way or the other.

We would also never get involved in Europe 'no matter what' before WW1, and would never get involved in another world war 'no matter what' before WW2.

Saying what people will do 'no matter what' is always a fool's bet.

I will say again as I have said before. The Islamic issue does not scare me nearly as much as the response to it could. When any sort of reactionary parties/governments come to power. It rarely made for happy fun times in history.

I just hope it is not an overreaction.

If the guy is not gonna let you walk off without getting in a fight. Then you have no choice but to strike first and lay em out cold or take their back and put em to sleep. You do it fast and with intent, but you do it before you get so mad you bash their face into the floor and bruise up your knuckles for no good reason. It is more humane for all involved.   
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 02, 2017, 09:56:08 am
We would also never get involved in Europe 'no matter what' before WW1, and would never get involved in another world war 'no matter what' before WW2.

Saying what people will do 'no matter what' is always a fool's bet.

I will say again as I have said before. The Islamic issue does not scare me nearly as much as the response to it could. When any sort of reactionary parties/governments come to power. It rarely made for happy fun times in history.

I just hope it is not an overreaction.

If the guy is not gonna let you walk off without getting in a fight. Then you have no choice but to strike first and lay em out cold or take their back and put em to sleep. You do it fast and with intent, but you do it before you get so mad you bash their face into the floor and bruise up your knuckles for no good reason. It is more humane for all involved.   

 :scrutiny You put way too much emphasis on a phrase. I don't believe in absolutes either, but odds are it won't be our nation that makes the first move.

I'm kind of surprised I have to explain this. You see how 'tolerant' most of the first world western nations are. For whatever reason we have come to terms with the loss of our people's lives to the hands of a foreign religious/political ideology.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 02, 2017, 09:06:31 pm
I think we understand your point but those of us with a little more "wheelbase" ( chronological age for the uninitiated ) tend to see the historical perspective better than you.  Nobody thought the current president would be elected either.  Right up to election day you could get decent odds that Mrs. Clinton would be the 45th president of the United States.  There's a reason I don't bet on the horses.  Or on card games.  Or on sporting events.  Or on being 100% right about much of anything at this point.  Too many variables that none of us have any control over to bet the farm on much of anything these days.

I'm pretty sure Saddam Hussein never thought about the actual consequences of thumbing his nose at us and invading Kuwait even in the aftermath of 9/11.  That didn't work out so well either.    :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: goatroper on August 02, 2017, 10:02:29 pm
I think we understand your point but those of us with a little more "wheelbase" ( chronological age for the uninitiated ) tend to see the historical perspective better than you.  Nobody thought the current president would be elected either.  Right up to election day you could get decent odds that Mrs. Clinton would be the 45th president of the United States.  There's a reason I don't bet on the horses.  Or on card games.  Or on sporting events.  Or on being 100% right about much of anything at this point.  Too many variables that none of us have any control over to bet the farm on much of anything these days.

I'm pretty sure Saddam Hussein never thought about the actual consequences of thumbing his nose at us and invading Kuwait even in the aftermath of 9/11.  That didn't work out so well either.    :coffee

Ditto.   :thumbup1
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 04, 2017, 04:05:51 pm
https://youtu.be/YGorDhTzYNQ

This is nonsense. Race is merely a social construct. I identify as an indigenous Inuit, south African, Australian.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 04, 2017, 04:51:08 pm
https://youtu.be/JsHDxI3OXQE

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 04, 2017, 05:13:13 pm
For being so softly spoken and sometimes being poked fun at for having a voice reminiscent of Kermit the frog, Jordan Peterson can speak with quite a bit of authority when he's passionate about a subject.

https://youtu.be/poQwKssG18Y

If you don't have much time, then from 10:30 on is a good place to start.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 04, 2017, 06:44:11 pm
How many feminists would howl in anger if they saw this video today?

https://youtu.be/_vVV8hRTxgE

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 05, 2017, 01:20:55 am
QKS ?   What a load of crap.   :facepalm   And believe me, us Orthodox Vikings know a thing or two about THAT.   :scrutiny

Australia must be a strange place to live these days.   :hmm

Dr. Peterson  hits it over the fence - again.  I'd love to sit down with him for an evening of drinks and cigars and conversation.  That could be epic. 

Feminists howl in anger at pretty much everything.  Its as dependable as roosters crowing at sunrise.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 05, 2017, 01:43:46 am
Australia must be a strange place to live these days.   :hmm

Mst definitely. They seem to have both the very best and the very worst. I suppose volatile and extreme circumstances will do that to a populace, though.

Feminists howl in anger at pretty much everything.  Its as dependable as roosters crowing at sunrise.   :coffee

 :rotfl I assume these are the two barometers to know of whether you are in the country or in the city? Both have screaming birds, just not like you would expect.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 05, 2017, 01:45:33 am
Yeah and roosters have enough sense not to march around carrying signs.   :coffee
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 06, 2017, 10:06:39 am
https://youtu.be/zRPhVZiowWg

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 06, 2017, 06:02:03 pm
https://youtu.be/l-Zt0W8eVe0

Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 06, 2017, 07:09:27 pm
Ok.  Katie Hopkins owns it.  Period.   :cool   

Ms. Green on her recent education at the hands of former "friends" and acquaintances almost gets to the truth.  She draws the parallel between the behavior of "religious" people and those who claim to inhabit the moral high ground ( a dubious claim at best  :scrutiny ) without actually connecting the dots.  People are hard wired for religion.  The evidence is inarguable.   Those who reject religious traditions out of hand simply substitute something else in its place and go about proselytizing as vigorously as any evangelist. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 06, 2017, 07:18:37 pm
Did I miss something? I don't recall putting a video up with Katie Hopkins recently.

Interesting  :hmm. I've never heard that before, that people are hardwired for religion. I might have to look into that.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on August 06, 2017, 07:56:37 pm
Neither had I, yet I have eyes to see.  It is obvious.

Though, I don't think it it the religion so much as it is what the religion offers.  A higher purpose, belief/understanding that there is something bigger out there, that has everything under control, a unifying set of morals, and a community of like-minded persons to provide validation.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 06, 2017, 08:19:59 pm
Neither had I, yet I have eyes to see.  It is obvious.


 :scrutiny I too have eyes, and yet I didn't see no Hopkins.

Though, I don't think it it the religion so much as it is what the religion offers.  A higher purpose, belief/understanding that there is something bigger out there, that has everything under control, a unifying set of morals, and a community of like-minded persons to provide validation.

I think religion is dependent upon one's geography and where they just happened to be born  :shrug. With my own experience regarding Christians there is hardly anything unifying about it. Baptists hate church of Christ, Church of Christ hates Catholics, and no one likes Mormons it seems. It's a big ol' cycle of everyone worshiping the same God and Jesus and yet they tear each other down. There is hardly anything ecumenical about it. That is one of the reasons I have such a difficult time going to mass with Christians, whether they be of my own flavour or Baptists, etc.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 06, 2017, 08:21:11 pm
Did I miss something? I don't recall putting a video up with Katie Hopkins recently.

Interesting  :hmm. I've never heard that before, that people are hardwired for religion. I might have to look into that.
Wasn't that Katie Hopkins chatting with the mohawked / face tattoo guy in the audience at the end of the first video?   :hmm
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on August 06, 2017, 08:26:05 pm
:scrutiny I too have eyes, and yet I didn't see no Hopkins.
I was referring to humans being hardwired for religion.

I think religion is dependent upon one's geography and where they just happened to be born  :shrug. With my own experience regarding Christians there is hardly anything unifying about it.
Humans are also hardwired for factionalism.  The only thing we can all agree on, is that we disagree on most everything. 
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 06, 2017, 08:29:48 pm
Well, as G.K. Chesterton once observed:  " It isn't that Christianity has been tried and found wanting; its that its been found difficult and not tried." 

Most people who have explored the idea Ms. Green gave voice to in her interview - "How do we produce moral people?" - or words to that effect, have come to the conclusion that religion is the only practical answer.   Regardless your misgivings about the whole of organized religion and the fact that it was and is practiced by some truly monstrous individuals, there is simply no practical alternative that anyone has yet put forth.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 06, 2017, 08:30:17 pm
Wasn't that Katie Hopkins chatting with the mohawked / face tattoo guy in the audience at the end of the first video?   :hmm

Ok, I was pausing sections of the video and looking for a running name plate at the bottom to introduce the hosts. That is why didn't see her, not to mention me not being familiar with her. Now that I watched the last part I saw it.

Seems kind of harsh to disown your child for having a tattoo. I wouldn't disown my child unless they did something serious, such as marry someone from California  :neener.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 06, 2017, 08:33:18 pm
I think she said she would disown her child for legally changing their name to something off the wall like the mohawked / face tattooed freak who legally changed his name to Body Art .   She covers a lot of ground so you have to listen fast.   :cool

I don't know if you caught the interview a couple of nights back on Tucker Carlson's show on FOX cable but he interviewed some guy on the subject of California's secessionist wet dream and it was hilarious.   Carlson tied in him in pretzel knots and the guys was such a pompous, arrogant, Cali-centric ass that it all went right over his head as he smiled his vacuous "Welcome to Cali, dude!" smile.  It was priceless.   :rotfl
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 06, 2017, 08:38:29 pm
Well, as G.K. Chesterton once observed:  " It isn't that Christianity has been tried and found wanting; its that its been found difficult and not tried." 

Most people who have explored the idea Ms. Green gave voice to in her interview - "How do we produce moral people?" - or words to that effect, have come to the conclusion that religion is the only practical answer.   Regardless your misgivings about the whole of organized religion and the fact that it was and is practiced by some truly monstrous individuals, there is simply no practical alternative that anyone has yet put forth.

I was discussing this with the clergy at my church. I frequently get frustrated because I know Christians who will see an event happen and then laugh at all of the "useless" twitter 'hashtag activism' going on in social media. Then, despite having the ability to help, they will just say "I'll pray for you" and do nothing else. I find that response to be its own celestial hashtag activism in a sense.

Now I am a catholic, so I love my structure and I am a frequent prayer, but it also took me a long time to find the church I have here. We don't just pray for people, we actually go into the community. The individuals in my congregation will pool money for turkeys and then go door to door handing them out in the poorer part of town around thanksgiving. I've never seen a church do something like that before and I must admit that I am pretty proud of them for it.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 06, 2017, 08:40:06 pm
I think she said she would disown her child for legally changing their name to something off the wall like the mohawked / face tattooed freak who legally changed his name to Body Art .   She covers a lot of ground so you have to listen fast.   :cool

I don't know if you caught the interview a couple of nights back on Tucker Carlson's show on FOX cable but he interviewed some guy on the subject of California's secessionist wet dream and it was hilarious.   Carlson tied in him in pretzel knots and the guys was such a pompous, arrogant, Cali-centric ass that it all went right over his head as he smiled his vacuous "Welcome to Cali, dude!" smile.  It was priceless.   :rotfl

No I didn't. Assuming the you tube has it, I'll have to look into it. Remember that I don't have a television  :cool.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 06, 2017, 08:42:00 pm
So, you have multiple handguns but no television.   I knew there was something I liked about you.   :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on August 06, 2017, 09:16:58 pm
it also took me a long time to find the church I have here. We don't just pray for people, we actually go into the community. The individuals in my congregation will pool money for turkeys and then go door to door handing them out in the poorer part of town around thanksgiving. I've never seen a church do something like that before and I must admit that I am pretty proud of them for it.
That isn't all that rare, but neither is it the norm.  Certainly, it is not SOP for any one denomination.

Among catholics at least, I know of six local parishes, (there are more, these are just the ones I know anything about) and only one - the smallest one - puts such an emphasis on that type of community relations.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 06, 2017, 09:38:39 pm
So, you have multiple handguns but no television.   I knew there was something I liked about you.   :cool

 ;)

That isn't all that rare, but neither is it the norm.  Certainly, it is not SOP for any one denomination.

Among catholics at least, I know of six local parishes, (there are more, these are just the ones I know anything about) and only one - the smallest one - puts such an emphasis on that type of community relations.

Everything is Baptist in my area. Regarding the Baptist churches, it is hit and miss. Some want community relations and some just want numbers.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: coelacanth on August 06, 2017, 09:39:49 pm
That isn't all that rare, but neither is it the norm.  Certainly, it is not SOP for any one denomination.

Among catholics at least, I know of six local parishes, (there are more, these are just the ones I know anything about) and only one - the smallest one - puts such an emphasis on that type of community relations.

I agree.  Not unusual at all in my experience.   Some are better at it than others in terms of organization but even if the church congregation itself doesn't do that sort of outreach they frequently do a group volunteer day where members of the congregation offer their time and effort to a local charity like one of the food banks or Habitat for Humanity site.   Its not uncommon for a group of twenty or thirty of the congregation to show up as requested and help out as needed.   

The first actual load of cargo hauled by my new F-150 back in 2004 was Thanksgiving turkeys and boxes and bags of groceries delivered to the homes of needy families by our church congregation.    :cool
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: Kaso on August 06, 2017, 10:01:56 pm
Everything is Baptist in my area. Regarding the Baptist churches, it is hit and miss. Some want community relations and some just want numbers.
Yeah, I'm not very fond of baptists.  There is quite the spectrum when it comes to 'baptist' churches, and about the only thing they can agree on, is that you need to take a bath. :scrutiny

The ones locally have this thing about being cheapskates and misers - and I know this because my sister married one - and generally keep their activities confined to the inside of the church building.  And food.  Every event, big or small, needs to have food served.  At least the local ones do that.  Southern Baptists are all together a different animal.
Title: Re: The Worst of SJW's.
Post by: MTK20 on August 06, 2017, 10:13:24 pm
Yeah, I'm not very fond of baptists.  There is quite the spectrum when it comes to 'baptist' churches, and about the only thing they can agree on, is that you need to