Help support WeTheArmed.com by visiting our sponsors.

Author Topic: The Worst of SJW's.  (Read 444958 times)

MTK20

  • Senior Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 8067
  • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

  • Offline
Re: The Worst of SJW's.
« Reply #2225 on: September 19, 2019, 02:20:47 pm »
https://nypost.com/2019/09/16/city-commissioner-replace-male-statues-in-central-park-with-women/?amp=1

Quote
City commissioner: Replace male statues in Central Park with women

By Julia Marsh

September 16, 2019 | 8:04pm


The city’s monument “men” are in peril.

A member of the commission that oversees art and architecture on city property suggested Monday that instead of simply adding statues of historical female figures to Central Park, the panel yank out some of the male ones first.

“There are what, five or six [male] statues that I think could easily be replaced by individual statues of each of these women,” said Hank Willis Thomas, a painter who serves on the Public Design Commission, at a hearing at City Hall.

Thomas appeared to be specifically fingering statues including that of Scottish poet Robert Burns, in the park’s Literary Row, and the one of Christopher Columbus in the park, near the famed second one of the explorer in Columbus Circle, for removal.

“I don’t think that there are many people who will miss the Burns statue, or some people may not miss the Columbus statue if there’s another one just a few hundred yards away,” Thomas said.

But Mayor Bill de Blasio — who created monumental hoopla when he opened the door to possibly removing what some groups deemed offensive statues by creating an advisory panel — refused to back the notion.

A rep for Hizzoner told The Post that the mayor — who hand-picked Thomas and the rest of the 10 commissioners on the panel — continues to support adding new monuments instead of removing existing ones.

De Blasio fueled the controversy over potentially removing statues such as those of Columbus by creating an advisory panel to review monuments throughout the five boroughs.

In the end, his panel suggested just one statue be removed — that of 19th century Dr. J. Marion Sims, who experimented on enslaved black women, from Central Park. His advisory panel also said descriptions accompanying other questionable figures be tinkered with to note both sides of their story.

Then there was a movement to increase the presence of female statues, and two names — of women’s rights pioneers Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony — were pitched. Central Park currently has 23 statues — all male.

But the proposed double-female statue met resistance for not including a woman of color, so there were calls for abolitionist Sojourner Truth to be added.

Still, the panel said it was troubled over linking the trio in one monument, since while the women all worked on the suffrage movement, they had different approaches, and it began thinking about individual monuments.

That’s when Thomas’ unofficial idea surfaced.

The commissioner did not return messages seeking comment.

Joseph Sciame, president of the national Sons of Italy Foundation, told The Post, “I don’t think it’s necessary to take down anyone’s statue” while also endorsing erecting “statues of certainly under-represented people who for whatever reason were never included.”

Additional reporting by Kate Sheehy


 
Texas
Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

WeTheArmed.com

  • Advertisement
  • ***

    coelacanth

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 10316
    • eccentric orbit

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2226 on: September 19, 2019, 02:59:14 pm »
    Futzing around with statues in the city park.  Brilliant.  Obviously the city government is sparing no effort to address the pressing issues affecting the people of New York city.   :facepalm   The only reason the statues are there in the first place is because previous generations of politicians used them to pander to groups they hoped would support their political campaigns.  Perhaps they should all be removed and the time, effort and expense required to maintain them spent on more important projects.  Just a thought.   :coffee
    Arizona" A republic, if you can keep it."

                                                   Benjamin Franklin

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 8067
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2227 on: September 20, 2019, 03:30:17 pm »


    A book I may have to add to the list.
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    coelacanth

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 10316
    • eccentric orbit

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2228 on: September 21, 2019, 02:43:08 am »
    It does sound interesting.  Might have to look for it myself.   :hmm
    Arizona" A republic, if you can keep it."

                                                   Benjamin Franklin

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 8067
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2229 on: September 24, 2019, 02:21:29 pm »
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    coelacanth

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 10316
    • eccentric orbit

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2230 on: September 24, 2019, 11:19:51 pm »
    Wouldn't let me see the article unless I created an account.  Not happening.  :coffee  That said, considering what I've read from the New York Times over the years I probably just saved myself some valuable time and maybe even kept a point or so of IQ that I would almost certainly have lost had I read the article.   :cool

    Based on your description of the article I imagine its part of their effort to redefine the founding of America based on the significance of the year  1619 which they say marks the beginning of widespread chattel slavery here.   :coffee
    Arizona" A republic, if you can keep it."

                                                   Benjamin Franklin

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 8067
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2231 on: September 25, 2019, 03:24:14 am »
    Wouldn't let me see the article unless I created an account.  Not happening.  :coffee  That said, considering what I've read from the New York Times over the years I probably just saved myself some valuable time and maybe even kept a point or so of IQ that I would almost certainly have lost had I read the article.   :cool

    Based on your description of the article I imagine its part of their effort to redefine the founding of America based on the significance of the year  1619 which they say marks the beginning of widespread chattel slavery here.   :coffee

    Here is your article  :cool .

    Quote
    In order to understand the brutality of merican capitalism, you have to start on the plantation.

    By Matthew Desmond

    AUG. 14, 2019


    A couple of years before he was convicted of securities fraud, Martin Shkreli was the chief executive of a pharmaceutical company that acquired the rights to Daraprim, a lifesaving antiparasitic drug. Previously the drug cost $13.50 a pill, but in Shkreli’s hands, the price quickly increased by a factor of 56, to $750 a pill. At a health care conference, Shkreli told the audience that he should have raised the price even higher. “No one wants to say it, no one’s proud of it,” he explained. “But this is a capitalist society, a capitalist system and capitalist rules.”

    This is a capitalist society. It’s a fatalistic mantra that seems to get repeated to anyone who questions why America can’t be more fair or equal. But around the world, there are many types of capitalist societies, ranging from liberating to exploitative, protective to abusive, democratic to unregulated. When Americans declare that “we live in a capitalist society” — as a real estate mogul told The Miami Herald last year when explaining his feelings about small-business owners being evicted from their Little Haiti storefronts — what they’re often defending is our nation’s peculiarly brutal economy. “Low-road capitalism,” the University of Wisconsin-Madison sociologist Joel Rogers has called it. In a capitalist society that goes low, wages are depressed as businesses compete over the price, not the quality, of goods; so-called unskilled workers are typically incentivized through punishments, not promotions; inequality reigns and poverty spreads. In the United States, the richest 1 percent of Americans own 40 percent of the country’s wealth, while a larger share of working-age people (18-65) live in poverty than in any other nation belonging to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (O.E.C.D.).

    Or consider worker rights in different capitalist nations. In Iceland, 90 percent of wage and salaried workers belong to trade unions authorized to fight for living wages and fair working conditions. Thirty-four percent of Italian workers are unionized, as are 26 percent of Canadian workers. Only 10 percent of American wage and salaried workers carry union cards. The O.E.C.D. scores nations along a number of indicators, such as how countries regulate temporary work arrangements. Scores run from 5 (“very strict”) to 1 (“very loose”). Brazil scores 4.1 and Thailand, 3.7, signaling toothy regulations on temp work. Further down the list are Norway (3.4), India (2.5) and Japan (1.3). The United States scored 0.3, tied for second to last place with Malaysia. How easy is it to fire workers? Countries like Indonesia (4.1) and Portugal (3) have strong rules about severance pay and reasons for dismissal. Those rules relax somewhat in places like Denmark (2.1) and Mexico (1.9). They virtually disappear in the United States, ranked dead last out of 71 nations with a score of 0.5.

    Those searching for reasons the American economy is uniquely severe and unbridled have found answers in many places (religion, politics, culture). But recently, historians have pointed persuasively to the gnatty fields of Georgia and Alabama, to the cotton houses and slave auction blocks, as the birthplace of America’s low-road approach to capitalism.

    Slavery was undeniably a font of phenomenal wealth. By the eve of the Civil War, the Mississippi Valley was home to more millionaires per capita than anywhere else in the United States. Cotton grown and picked by enslaved workers was the nation’s most valuable export. The combined value of enslaved people exceeded that of all the railroads and factories in the nation. New Orleans boasted a denser concentration of banking capital than New York City. What made the cotton economy boom in the United States, and not in all the other far-flung parts of the world with climates and soil suitable to the crop, was our nation’s unflinching willingness to use violence on nonwhite people and to exert its will on seemingly endless supplies of land and labor. Given the choice between modernity and barbarism, prosperity and poverty, lawfulness and cruelty, democracy and totalitarianism, America chose all of the above.

    Nearly two average American lifetimes (79 years) have passed since the end of slavery, only two. It is not surprising that we can still feel the looming presence of this institution, which helped turn a poor, fledgling nation into a financial colossus. The surprising bit has to do with the many eerily specific ways slavery can still be felt in our economic life. “American slavery is necessarily imprinted on the DNA of American capitalism,” write the historians Sven Beckert and Seth Rockman. The task now, they argue, is “cataloging the dominant and recessive traits” that have been passed down to us, tracing the unsettling and often unrecognized lines of descent by which America’s national sin is now being visited upon the third and fourth generations.

    They picked in long rows, bent bodies shuffling through cotton fields white in bloom. Men, women and children picked, using both hands to hurry the work. Some picked in Negro cloth, their raw product returning to them by way of New England mills. Some picked completely naked. Young children ran water across the humped rows, while overseers peered down from horses. Enslaved workers placed each cotton boll into a sack slung around their necks. Their haul would be weighed after the sunlight stalked away from the fields and, as the freedman Charles Ball recalled, you couldn’t “distinguish the weeds from the cotton plants.” If the haul came up light, enslaved workers were often whipped. “A short day’s work was always punished,” Ball wrote.

    Cotton was to the 19th century what oil was to the 20th: among the world’s most widely traded commodities. Cotton is everywhere, in our clothes, hospitals, soap. Before the industrialization of cotton, people wore expensive clothes made of wool or linen and dressed their beds in furs or straw. Whoever mastered cotton could make a killing. But cotton needed land. A field could only tolerate a few straight years of the crop before its soil became depleted. Planters watched as acres that had initially produced 1,000 pounds of cotton yielded only 400 a few seasons later. The thirst for new farmland grew even more intense after the invention of the cotton gin in the early 1790s. Before the gin, enslaved workers grew more cotton than they could clean. The gin broke the bottleneck, making it possible to clean as much cotton as you could grow.

     
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    coelacanth

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 10316
    • eccentric orbit

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2232 on: September 26, 2019, 01:26:40 pm »
    So, my speculation was correct.   I am older and dumber for having read that article.  I wouldn't have done it for just anybody or even on a dare but since you posted it specifically for me I felt it worth the risk.   In retrospect I should have probably brushed and flossed my teeth or checked the weather forecast or cleaned my fountain pen but it is what it is.   I should probably note that you owe me one but this whole thread is dedicated to the proposition that there are actually people walking around who believe this kind of deceptive nonsense so I guess you're off the hook.  For now.   :cool
    Arizona" A republic, if you can keep it."

                                                   Benjamin Franklin

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 8067
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2233 on: September 26, 2019, 03:20:11 pm »
    So, my speculation was correct.   I am older and dumber for having read that article.  I wouldn't have done it for just anybody or even on a dare but since you posted it specifically for me I felt it worth the risk.   In retrospect I should have probably brushed and flossed my teeth or checked the weather forecast or cleaned my fountain pen but it is what it is.   I should probably note that you owe me one but this whole thread is dedicated to the proposition that there are actually people walking around who believe this kind of deceptive nonsense so I guess you're off the hook.  For now.   :cool

    I know this stuff is ridiculous, but how do you reach people like this? Slavery and capitalism are two completely different institutions.
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    LowKey

    • Senior Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 790

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2234 on: September 26, 2019, 08:19:17 pm »
    I know this stuff is ridiculous, but how do you reach people like this? Slavery and capitalism are two completely different institutions.

    Truthfully?
    You have to get to them when they're in grade school.
    By the time they hit college age most have set the hook so deep there is no deprogramming them.  Logic isn't the issue, they're working off "feelz". 


    coelacanth

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 10316
    • eccentric orbit

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2235 on: September 26, 2019, 11:06:43 pm »
    Certainly some truth to that.  Still, even a stray dog can be taught how to adapt to a new environment and the really sharp ones can take to the process with some enthusiasm.   We can only hope that the brightest of these propagandized automatons begin to sense something is amiss with their programming.

    As for how to reach them, you have to start small and work your way onto the bigger ideas.  I know it is an example from a different age but the story of Anne Sullivan and Helen Keller is the classic story of winning a person's trust through gentle, yet constant and insistent progress.  It may be measured incrementally at first but there will be breakthroughs that allow you to establish the terms of further progress.  If you have not seen the 1962 film, "The Miracle Worker" starring Anne Bancroft and Patty Duke as Ms. Sullivan and Ms. Keller, respectively it is worth watching.

    In my experience the group you are asking about reaching are both ignorant and arrogant.  A most unfortunate combination of traits and reinforced by constant immersion in social media every day.   People who are comfortable with ANTIFA and BLM and the general tone and direction of what passes for learned debate on today's college campus are going to be difficult to even talk with about a simple difference of opinion much less any outright challenge to their religious dogma.  And yes, for a great many of them their fervently held beliefs amount to a religious faith. 

    For people like that your approach to reaching them particularly important.  Its easy to blow off some know nothing jackazz who is just preaching to you and if you're perceived to be that jackazz you will most likely fail.   It seems to me the key is to place an idea in the mind that becomes the equivalent of a rock in the shoe.   It won't go away and it can't be ignored.   Ideas like that are known as objective truths.   How you approach the problem depends on both you and the person you're trying to reach and what idea you judge to be the most effective counter to their model of "prevailing wisdom".   Even if you are perceived as "the enemy"- we have all learned to respect some enemies if only because they are  effective at what they do.   :coffee

    If you are referring specifically to the article in question and how to refute it.  The process starts with research, properly referenced and footnoted, of course.   Correcting and refuting factual errors is the first step.   Then refuting and correcting incorrect assumptions or inferences - sometimes based on faulty information, sometimes based on taking facts or events out of context.   Back on the debate team we used to call this the "straw man" or "red herring" argument.  Establish a frame of reference based on facts, reason and logic - not what your opponent wishes it to be.  A final touch can be a magnanimous acknowledgement that the tone of the article is perhaps understandable given the errors in fact and judgement that led to it.  You may never get published on the editorial page or even a response to your work but rest assured that faint burnt smell you detect is coming from the author of the article who just read your critique.  :cool
    « Last Edit: September 26, 2019, 11:24:25 pm by coelacanth »
    Arizona" A republic, if you can keep it."

                                                   Benjamin Franklin

    LowKey

    • Senior Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 790

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2236 on: September 27, 2019, 01:34:21 am »
    I don't disagree with anything that you said. 
    I will point out that the majority of them are  not likely to stray from the path after their mid-teens and they don't restrict the vote to only the really sharp ones.
    Let's face it, long ago the left made the right strategic decision and infiltrated and took over the educational institutions for just this purpose...indoctrinating the young.
    If we want to fix that we have to take back the education of the young, either in public schools or through  vouchers and private schools. 

     
    Certainly some truth to that.  Still, even a stray dog can be taught how to adapt to a new environment and the really sharp ones can take to the process with some enthusiasm.   We can only hope that the brightest of these propagandized automatons begin to sense something is amiss with their programming.

    As for how to reach them, you have to start small and work your way onto the bigger ideas.  I know it is an example from a different age but the story of Anne Sullivan and Helen Keller is the classic story of winning a person's trust through gentle, yet constant and insistent progress.  It may be measured incrementally at first but there will be breakthroughs that allow you to establish the terms of further progress.  If you have not seen the 1962 film, "The Miracle Worker" starring Anne Bancroft and Patty Duke as Ms. Sullivan and Ms. Keller, respectively it is worth watching.

    In my experience the group you are asking about reaching are both ignorant and arrogant.  A most unfortunate combination of traits and reinforced by constant immersion in social media every day.   People who are comfortable with ANTIFA and BLM and the general tone and direction of what passes for learned debate on today's college campus are going to be difficult to even talk with about a simple difference of opinion much less any outright challenge to their religious dogma.  And yes, for a great many of them their fervently held beliefs amount to a religious faith. 

    For people like that your approach to reaching them particularly important.  Its easy to blow off some know nothing jackazz who is just preaching to you and if you're perceived to be that jackazz you will most likely fail.   It seems to me the key is to place an idea in the mind that becomes the equivalent of a rock in the shoe.   It won't go away and it can't be ignored.   Ideas like that are known as objective truths.   How you approach the problem depends on both you and the person you're trying to reach and what idea you judge to be the most effective counter to their model of "prevailing wisdom".   Even if you are perceived as "the enemy"- we have all learned to respect some enemies if only because they are  effective at what they do.   :coffee

    If you are referring specifically to the article in question and how to refute it.  The process starts with research, properly referenced and footnoted, of course.   Correcting and refuting factual errors is the first step.   Then refuting and correcting incorrect assumptions or inferences - sometimes based on faulty information, sometimes based on taking facts or events out of context.   Back on the debate team we used to call this the "straw man" or "red herring" argument.  Establish a frame of reference based on facts, reason and logic - not what your opponent wishes it to be.  A final touch can be a magnanimous acknowledgement that the tone of the article is perhaps understandable given the errors in fact and judgement that led to it.  You may never get published on the editorial page or even a response to your work but rest assured that faint burnt smell you detect is coming from the author of the article who just read your critique.  :cool

    coelacanth

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 10316
    • eccentric orbit

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2237 on: September 27, 2019, 11:54:20 pm »
    You are correct.  It takes the right kind of mind to be open to the gestalt moment my strategy is likely to induce.  Fortunately there is no more dogged and ferocious opponent than than someone who has been fooled all their life and finally learns and accepts the truth.  They will use it to gleefully and relentlessly bludgeon their former comrades with a fervor few of us can match.   

    Human nature, being what it is, the leftist/statist/Marxist model for public education is ultimately self defeating but what it destroys on the way may be the society and governmental system that supports it.  Unfortunately we are in a situation where our opponents are at war with us but we aren't at war with them.  Since the aggressor always sets the terms of the engagement we either get serious about defeating this foe or continue to be behind the curve.  IMHO.   :coffee
    Arizona" A republic, if you can keep it."

                                                   Benjamin Franklin

    LowKey

    • Senior Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 790

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2238 on: September 28, 2019, 11:56:02 am »
    I agree completely.
    Sometimes "taking the high road" is just a convoluted way of  explaining cowardice and apathy away as moral superiority..
    You are correct.  It takes the right kind of mind to be open to the gestalt moment my strategy is likely to induce.  Fortunately there is no more dogged and ferocious opponent than than someone who has been fooled all their life and finally learns and accepts the truth.  They will use it to gleefully and relentlessly bludgeon their former comrades with a fervor few of us can match.   

    Human nature, being what it is, the leftist/statist/Marxist model for public education is ultimately self defeating but what it destroys on the way may be the society and governmental system that supports it.  Unfortunately we are in a situation where our opponents are at war with us but we aren't at war with them.  Since the aggressor always sets the terms of the engagement we either get serious about defeating this foe or continue to be behind the curve.  IMHO.   :coffee

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 8067
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2239 on: September 28, 2019, 12:01:59 pm »
    I agree completely.
    Sometimes "taking the high road" is just a convoluted way of  explaining cowardice and apathy away as moral superiority..

     :thumbup1

    I've never put it that way before, but on some deep, unspoken level that's how I have always felt when discussing the more visceral political issues.

    Some things just have to be discussed and the phrase "pick your battles" becomes either irrelevant or a cowards remark.
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 8067
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2240 on: September 28, 2019, 12:21:02 pm »


    https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/08/24/astronaut-identity-theft-in-space/

    Quote
    Female Astronaut Accused Of Stealing Estranged Wife’s Identity, Committing First Crime In Space

    August 24, 2019 at 11:11 pm

    NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – A NASA astronaut who was supposed to be part of the first all-female spacewalk in history has been accused of another milestone – committing the first recorded crime in space.

    Anne McClain, a Lt. Colonel in the U.S. Army, has reportedly been accused of identity theft while on board the International Space Station.

    According to multiple reports, McClain allegedly accessed her estranged wife’s bank account in the midst of a bitter divorce between to two women.

    Summer Worden, a former Air Force intelligence officer and Kansas resident, married the astronaut in 2014.

    The New York Times reports that, even though the two married, Worden was reluctant to let McClain officially adopt her son – who was born a year before the couple met.

    The marriage eventually fell apart in 2018, as McClain reportedly sought to gain shared parenting rights over Worden’s son.

    The astronaut also took the matter to a judge, requesting the exclusive right to determine where the boy would live if Worden and McClain could not salvage their marriage.

    “I don’t understand this tactic of attacking me as Brig’s mother and being so aggressive… and demanding a legal managing custody. That to me is bizarre to me. I don’t understand who would do that to another person,” Worden said via KHOU.

    “If you claim to love this little boy, how are you going to show his mother zero respect?… Anne’s colleagues have been known to say she will kill to win, that’s how competitive she is,” the astronaut’s spouse claimed.

    After Worden asked her bank to check her recent activity, McClain’s allegedly criminal access was found out – taking place during the NASA astronaut’s six-month missing on the ISS.

    Worden filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission and with NASA. McClain denied the allegations that her use of the account was illegal.

    “Lt. Col. Anne McClain has an accomplished military career… She did a great job on her most recent NASA mission aboard the International Space Station. Like with all NASA employees, NASA does not comment on personal or personnel matters,” NASA said in a statement.

    McClain nearly made history in March, when she was scheduled to be part of the first all-female spacewalk in history. The mission was canceled because the ISS did not have two properly fitting spacesuits for the women.

    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 8067
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2241 on: September 28, 2019, 01:50:03 pm »
    These political ad campaigns are getting lamer by the day.


    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 8067
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2242 on: September 28, 2019, 03:43:30 pm »
    https://www.themorningwatchmsu.com/post/breaking-mandatory-diversity-training-calls-white-males-oblivious-to-diversity-and-born-privileged

    Quote
    BREAKING: MANDATORY Diversity Training Calls White Males Oblivious to Diversity and Born Privileged

    “There’s often this obliviousness...of racial privilege and particularly of gender privilege for white males.”

    Author: Sergei Kelley


    At MSU, new online mandatory diversity training aims to build a more inclusive community by addressing gender and race privileges. The training videos call on faculty to help students “examine their privilege and targeted identity.”

    Required for all newly enrolled MSU students, the videos are part of the University's “Diversity & Inclusion eLearning,” to encourage inclusion and prevent students from feeling “othered.” This training is put forward by MSU’s Office of Inclusion and Intercultural Initiatives.

    The first video focuses on inclusion in the classroom and calls out white male students for being oblivious in regards to diversity and their privilege. “There’s often this obliviousness...of racial privilege and particularly of gender privilege for white males.” They hold this privilege by being “members of these social groups,” and are “born with these privileges.”

    Noted as a “microaggression,” positioning students of a racial minority to act as a spokesperson for their race in classroom discussion, is “unconsciously expected” by other students and professors.

    The video further cites it is often hard to name and analyze the privileges, “in intellectual spaces.”

    The challenges for diversity and inclusion are for “minoritized students, but also students who come from positions of privilege.” The first video concludes after calling on faculty to “be very diligent in helping students both examine their privilege and targeted identities.”

    A graduate engineering student told The Morning Watch, “how is this video going to change the behavior of a genuinely bigoted person?”

    He further said, "not only does MSU sink money into...the Office for Inclusion and Intercultural Initiatives, it appears that each college has a diversity program....how much money is spent on this virtue signaling pandering to minorities?”

    The second video, “Terms and Concepts,” defines bias, implicit bias, and overcoming bias. To help overcome bias, MSU programs such as MRULE (Multi Racial Unity Living Experience) or becoming an Intercultural Aide (ICA) were suggested.

    “It’s also really important that we make sure students understand what it’s like to be apart of this inclusive community,” the video stated.

    “Get around some people that don’t look like you,” stated the final video. It further focused on ways for students “to build collective potential” and inclusion.

    In response to the diversity training, MSU student Kara Taylor told The Morning Watch, “This campus is diverse, and many students are brought up in communities where they aren't exposed to such a diverse population. Why should we continue to be close-minded or bigoted when MSU gives us the resources to welcome and embrace everyone's differences?”

    Taylor is a senior studying Political Theory and Constitutional Democracy.

    MSU has hosted other programs to promote inclusion. Last July, MSU held a $75 employee multicultural workshop in July to focus “on differences rather than similarities.” In addition, last spring MSU created a program to award students with different “intercultural competence” badges.

    The Morning Watch did not receive comment from the MSU Office of Inclusion and Intercultural Initiatives in time for publication.

    Contributor: Sergei Kelley


     
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    Mikee5star

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 2172

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2243 on: September 28, 2019, 09:52:23 pm »
    I have only one firm belief about the American political system, and that is this: God is a Republican and Santa Claus is a Democrat.

    God is an elderly or, at any rate, middle aged male, a stern fellow, patriarchal rather than paternal and a great believer in rules and regulations. He holds men accountable for their actions. He has little apparent concern for the material well being of the disadvantaged. He is politically connected, socially powerful and holds the mortgage on literally everything in the world. God is difficult. God is unsentimental. It is very hard to get into God's heavenly country club.

    Santa Claus is another matter. He's cute. He's nonthreatening. He's always cheerful. And he loves animals. He may know who's been naughty and who's been nice, but he never does anything about it. He gives everyone everything they want without the thought of quid pro quo. He works hard for charities, and he's famously generous to the poor. Santa Claus is preferable to God in every way but one: There is no such thing as Santa Claus.

    Parliament of Whores: A Lone Humorist Attempts To Explain The Entire U. S. Government | 1991 | P. J. O'Rourke
    Alaska

    coelacanth

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 10316
    • eccentric orbit

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2244 on: September 29, 2019, 12:38:48 am »
    :thumbup1

    I've never put it that way before, but on some deep, unspoken level that's how I have always felt when discussing the more visceral political issues.

    Some things just have to be discussed and the phrase "pick your battles" becomes either irrelevant or a cowards remark.
    Agreed.  Someone once said ( the source eludes me at the moment  :facepalm ) "In order to be peaceful you must be capable of violence.  If you are capable of committing violence and you refrain from  doing so you are peaceful.  If you are incapable of violence you aren't peaceful, you're harmless.  An important distinction." .   Our opponents realize that there are still a great many of us going peacefully about our business but with the means and the will to commit violence if it becomes necessary.  That is why they are so intent on disarming us.   

    There was a time when Americans understood the significance and value of our unique society.  During that time most Americans could be counted on to peacefully mind their own affairs but when the country was threatened they would drop everything and come running to respond to that trouble.  We were never a homogeneous nation but the overwhelming majority of us understood what we had and why it was worth fighting for regardless of any individual's background.   We have that in our national DNA - or at least we did. 

    Divide and conquer is a pretty good strategy.  It has worked very well over all the long history of people and nations and their conflicts.  We appear to be a very divided country at the moment and it seems to me that the idea is pushed hardest by those with the most to gain if it succeeds.  If you can turn us against each other in our hearts and minds you have the chance to defeat us by stealth and deception where you could not prevail by force of arms.  That said, you also run the risk of uniting us against you and even at this late date the consequences of such a turn are dire indeed. 
    « Last Edit: September 29, 2019, 01:12:49 am by coelacanth »
    Arizona" A republic, if you can keep it."

                                                   Benjamin Franklin

    coelacanth

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 10316
    • eccentric orbit

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2245 on: September 29, 2019, 01:10:33 am »
    Regarding the article by Sergei Kelly, that is a fairly straight forward piece of journalism.  You can't really tell for certain where the author falls on the spectrum of like or dislike for the subject of the article.  That is what journalism is in my experience.  Just the reporting of the facts and no obvious bias one way or the other about it.  Reading other articles by Mr. Kelley may give some indication about his personal opinion(s) but I think it was an OK job on this piece.  I could critique it from a structural standpoint but that's not why we're here. 

    " Noted as a "microaggression", positioning students of a racial minority to act as a spokesperson for their race in classroom discussion, is "unconsciously expected" by other students and professors.    The video further cites it is often hard to name and analyze the privileges "in intellectual spaces". ".     :scrutiny

    This begs for clarification and further inquiry.   How is anyone "expected" - unconsciously or otherwise - to act as a spokesperson for an entire race in a classroom setting?  And if you can't actually name a privilege and/or analyze it - in any setting - what would you cite as evidence that it exists at all?   :coffee

    This is worse than Alice in wonderland.   :facepalm
    Arizona" A republic, if you can keep it."

                                                   Benjamin Franklin

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 8067
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2246 on: September 29, 2019, 02:04:16 am »
    Regarding the article by Sergei Kelly, that is a fairly straight forward piece of journalism.  You can't really tell for certain where the author falls on the spectrum of like or dislike for the subject of the article.  That is what journalism is in my experience.  Just the reporting of the facts and no obvious bias one way or the other about it.  Reading other articles by Mr. Kelley may give some indication about his personal opinion(s) but I think it was an OK job on this piece.  I could critique it from a structural standpoint but that's not why we're here. 

    " Noted as a "microaggression", positioning students of a racial minority to act as a spokesperson for their race in classroom discussion, is "unconsciously expected" by other students and professors.    The video further cites it is often hard to name and analyze the privileges "in intellectual spaces". ".     :scrutiny

    This begs for clarification and further inquiry.   How is anyone "expected" - unconsciously or otherwise - to act as a spokesperson for an entire race in a classroom setting?  And if you can't actually name a privilege and/or analyze it - in any setting - what would you cite as evidence that it exists at all?   :coffee

    This is worse than Alice in wonderland.   :facepalm

    Alice in wonderland may be a good analogy.

    There is a meme going around to describe the current political climate. "Clown world", where right is wrong and upside is down. It is a type of nihilism that is being embraced by younger conservatives and Doomers (which is a millennial who, unlike their millennial peers, is cognizant of the political environment and feels despair towards the future. College? Political indoctrination with debt attached. Workplace? #metoo. Marriage and family? Once great institutions where reputations and finances now go to die).

    Life, if felt, feels like a tragedy. However, life when thought about, is a comedy. And so we have the mantra of "Clown world".

    The news story I read the other day where a woman drove on a suspended license, blew a stop sign, killed a 7 year old, and only got parole? Clown world.

    Listening to Hillary Clinton lecture the nation on how politically corrupt Trump is, despite the Clinton family's questionable history? Clown world.

    The news story I read today where a 5 year old may be on the sex offender list because his teacher reported him after hugging a classmate? Clown world.

    I try to keep an ear to the ground of political "new media". I try to bring accurate and current stories for y'all, but I realise that sometimes I just paste the information and articles. Sometimes I neglect to give more background information and information on the subcultures that surround these stories. If given the time or inclination, I'll try to do better in the future.
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    coelacanth

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 10316
    • eccentric orbit

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2247 on: September 29, 2019, 02:31:46 am »
    No criticism was intended or implied for the posting of the article(s).  The content of the diversity "training" video(s) was the only target for criticism.  I could see how the "Clown World" meme might become pretty popular but to me slapping a label on something takes it to a place where it can be talked about but not seriously.  Thought about but not seriously.  Complained about but not with the idea of doing something about it. 

    Don't get me wrong here - that kind of thing has been going on since about the time we began forming tribal groups.  A certain amount of it is to be expected.  Like complaining about the weather.  In a way, it fulfills a social contract between people to talk about things neither feels obligated to do anything about.  Polite conversation.   

    The problems that make the "Clown World" meme work are everywhere you look and appear to be getting worse instead of better.  I'm pretty sure nobody in Venezuela thinks their version of "Clown World" is at all funny.  None of us are going to be laughing it up either if even half the stuff getting talked about during the Democrat primary debates becomes government policy.   

    I appreciate you bringing this stuff here for us and I like the discussion it generates.  Carry on, sir.  :thumbup1
    Arizona" A republic, if you can keep it."

                                                   Benjamin Franklin

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 8067
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2248 on: September 29, 2019, 12:19:04 pm »
    No criticism was intended or implied for the posting of the article(s).  The content of the diversity "training" video(s) was the only target for criticism.  I could see how the "Clown World" meme might become pretty popular but to me slapping a label on something takes it to a place where it can be talked about but not seriously.  Thought about but not seriously.  Complained about but not with the idea of doing something about it. 

    Don't get me wrong here - that kind of thing has been going on since about the time we began forming tribal groups.  A certain amount of it is to be expected.  Like complaining about the weather.  In a way, it fulfills a social contract between people to talk about things neither feels obligated to do anything about.  Polite conversation.   

    The problems that make the "Clown World" meme work are everywhere you look and appear to be getting worse instead of better.  I'm pretty sure nobody in Venezuela thinks their version of "Clown World" is at all funny.  None of us are going to be laughing it up either if even half the stuff getting talked about during the Democrat primary debates becomes government policy.   

    I appreciate you bringing this stuff here for us and I like the discussion it generates.  Carry on, sir.  :thumbup1

    Thank you, I try :hat .

    You bring up a good point. The label may make it difficult to address a topics solution in a serious manner. I believe that is what spawned the meme in the first place. When speaking with young people, I have noticed a feeling of hopelessness in them that permeates everything. They feel there is no solution or way to fight the current insanity, the mindset of "after all, I'm just one person". I see similarities between it and foxhole humour. "Well, this situation is awful, if nothing else we can mock the tragedy."

    I often times wonder if there is a solution, or if the America we know (the closest experiment towards human freedom we've ever known) is a sinking ship with no saving. Where I may still be debating this, others seem sure that it's over. The book "enjoy the decline" by Aaron Clarey is one of the better examples of this opinion that comes to my mind at this moment.
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 8067
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Offline
    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2249 on: September 29, 2019, 05:24:45 pm »
    As someone who attempts to practice political skepticism and tries to get to the root of issues, I found this to be a fantastic commentary. I had to jot down notes for reading material and for other speakers to listen to.

    The mechanisms our political system uses to extract illegitimate funding from tragedies, which the origins of these tragedies are either obfuscated or completely ignored, is a fascinating study into the depths of government lies and history.

    If you are interested in how family or origin issues affect legislation and how intended altruistic laws show that we do big things badly in government, I highly recommend this video.

    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    Help support WeTheArmed.com by visiting our sponsors.