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« Reply #2100 on: February 27, 2019, 02:59:26 pm »
Don't forget the social and societal reinforcement of those inherent tendencies.  A recent public school education from pre-school through pre-med or pre-law amounts to a daily indoctrination of what to think.  Never mind how to think or how to reason.  Those things are dangerous.  Don't go there.   :facepalm    Combine that mindset with the fact that young humans are very susceptible to peer pressure and its no wonder that a conversation that passes for a "debate" breaks out about something that isn't even arguable on a factual basis.   The very success of our society fosters the ability of vast numbers of us to remain completely ignorant of its underpinnings - particularly in heavily urban environments.  And that is precisely how we end up with thoroughbreds like AOC.   :coffee
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    « Reply #2101 on: February 27, 2019, 06:02:16 pm »
    Don't forget the social and societal reinforcement of those inherent tendencies.  A recent public school education from pre-school through pre-med or pre-law amounts to a daily indoctrination of what to think.  Never mind how to think or how to reason.  Those things are dangerous.  Don't go there.   :facepalm    Combine that mindset with the fact that young humans are very susceptible to peer pressure and its no wonder that a conversation that passes for a "debate" breaks out about something that isn't even arguable on a factual basis.   The very success of our society fosters the ability of vast numbers of us to remain completely ignorant of its underpinnings - particularly in heavily urban environments.  And that is precisely how we end up with thoroughbreds like AOC.   :coffee

    Don't remind me  :facepalm . I had to bite my tongue so hard in college when professors talked about the 'wage gap' and how men caused it just to hate wahmen  :bash :banghead . If I tried to debate the fallacy, then I was the a______  :banghead .
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    « Reply #2102 on: March 06, 2019, 01:43:57 pm »
    A little different video today.



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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #2103 on: March 06, 2019, 11:06:03 pm »
    Well, I couldn't follow the link, but I went directly to YouTube and looked it up, and found it anyway.

    Paul Harvey recorded that a long time ago, but the video has been updated.

    Quite prophetic.  And scary.
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    « Reply #2104 on: March 09, 2019, 08:52:24 pm »


    One more throw back, that seems oddly prophetic regarding today's social justice and progressive political philosophies.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #2105 on: March 09, 2019, 08:54:35 pm »
    Nailed it. 
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    « Reply #2106 on: March 10, 2019, 05:36:38 pm »


    Did Dr. Peterson get this one wrong? When the NRA says "fist of truth"  are they still referring to a battle of ideas and politics? What if the NRA meant for free people to arm themselves, in case something horrible happens? Dr. Peterson frequently speaks of life being filled with tragedy. What is wrong with having the appropriate preparation and tools to fight such things (whether those tools are ideas, letters to congressman, or votes at the ballot)?

    There was quite a bit to parse out in this one.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #2107 on: March 11, 2019, 12:45:44 am »
    Did Dr. Peterson get this one wrong? When the NRA says "fist of truth"  are they still referring to a battle of ideas and politics? What if the NRA meant for free people to arm themselves, in case something horrible happens? Dr. Peterson frequently speaks of life being filled with tragedy. What is wrong with having the appropriate preparation and tools to fight such things (whether those tools are ideas, letters to congressman, or votes at the ballot)?

    There was quite a bit to parse out in this one.

    He had a swing and a miss on this one.

    It always pays to remember that Peterson is a modern liberal. He has just not swung so far as to be part of the modern progressive(regressive) left ideology.

    His miss of interpreting 'fist of truth' as a call to violence is pretty noteworthy. A 'fist of truth' is inherently a call for forthright and truthful communication. Which was used to show the stark contrast of the lies the narration spoke of earlier in the ad.

    There is no truth or lies in violence. These ideas are only in the realm of communication.   
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    « Reply #2108 on: March 11, 2019, 01:35:13 am »
    He had a swing and a miss on this one.

    It always pays to remember that Peterson is a modern liberal. He has just not swung so far as to be part of the modern progressive(regressive) left ideology.

    His miss of interpreting 'fist of truth' as a call to violence is pretty noteworthy. A 'fist of truth' is inherently a call for forthright and truthful communication. Which was used to show the stark contrast of the lies the narration spoke of earlier in the ad.

    There is no truth or lies in violence. These ideas are only in the realm of communication.

    True. Violence is just a form of physical action and entropy. It sure would be nice though, if victories in violence had a bias towards truth or good moral ideologies. If that were the case, perhaps dictatorships and communism never would have spawned to begin with. Too bad tyrants can use these tools with great effect as well.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #2109 on: March 11, 2019, 01:36:17 am »
    He had a swing and a miss on this one.

    It always pays to remember that Peterson is a modern liberal. He has just not swung so far as to be part of the modern progressive(regressive) left ideology.

    His miss of interpreting 'fist of truth' as a call to violence is pretty noteworthy. A 'fist of truth' is inherently a call for forthright and truthful communication. Which was used to show the stark contrast of the lies the narration spoke of earlier in the ad.

    There is no truth or lies in violence. These ideas are only in the realm of communication.   

    Well said.  I agree.  When Ms. Loesch looked directly into the camera and spoke of the only way to fight lies and violence being " . . . the clenched fist of truth . . ." she signaled her own ( and presumably the NRA's as well ) unwillingness to cede the field to those who would use lawlessness, violence and propoganda lies to further their own anti-freedom agenda. 

    Dr. Peterson is a brilliant thinker and communicator.  I have no idea what his stance is on our second amendment.  Being Canadian it wouldn't surprise me if he is less adamant about it than most of us around here.  He is entitled to his own opinion on the matter and whether he agrees with me or not on the subject he has earned my respect for his work and his commitment to telling the truth as he understands it.   Based on that short clip I don't think he has the a good grasp of the issue - particularly from the perspective of the NRA - but I'm not willing to throw him under the bus for it at this point.
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    « Reply #2110 on: March 11, 2019, 02:05:16 am »
    He is pro-gun. he has stated before in a video that he recognises the 'necessity of moral people to have the capacity and ability for violence', that's how he roughly put it.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #2111 on: March 11, 2019, 02:21:41 am »
    Then I would say he took more of an issue with the speaker and the tone of the ad than he did with the legal and moral stance behind it.  He strikes me as something less than pugnacious and it would not surprise me that he would take issue with someone he perceived to be pushing that boundary.  Still, he has personal experience with unruly crowds of ideologically driven young people so when he sees wanton destruction of property and physical violence committed by them I wonder how he thinks Americans should respond?
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    « Reply #2112 on: March 11, 2019, 09:22:17 am »
    Gun people being what we are, and being a not insignificant chunk of his viewership, he will probably end up clarifying his stance by month's end.
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    « Reply #2113 on: March 11, 2019, 02:08:56 pm »
    Then I would say he took more of an issue with the speaker and the tone of the ad than he did with the legal and moral stance behind it.  He strikes me as something less than pugnacious and it would not surprise me that he would take issue with someone he perceived to be pushing that boundary.  Still, he has personal experience with unruly crowds of ideologically driven young people so when he sees wanton destruction of property and physical violence committed by them I wonder how he thinks Americans should respond?

    He is Canadian... So I assume he thinks we should apologize.  :D

    I think he still has some issues with violence in general. The modern liberal ideology held any violence as somehow wrong no matter how righteous the action. Violence is simply an action taken in the physical realm. It is neither inherently evil or not evil, and it is just a tool of the righteous as well as unrighteous.

    He is very correct in that the ad is a response to the partisanship in modern American discourse. The left continues to escalate up the scale of violence and rhetoric. So the right must respond in kind or be on the losing side of a fight. 
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    « Reply #2114 on: March 11, 2019, 04:15:59 pm »
    Exactly.  The aggressor sets the initial terms of any engagement.  Basic physics and physiology when talking about humans - and not coincidentally the basis of Jiu-jitsu and many other martial arts and techniques. 
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    « Reply #2115 on: March 12, 2019, 10:35:45 pm »
    https://sane.home.blog/2019/03/06/employment-new-deal/

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    Why You Shouldn’t Celebrate International Women’s Day

    Or Women’s History Month. Answer: because of the decades-long abuse of business owners by the discriminatory (against them) “progressive” legislation, aimed at “empowering” women in the workplace. Now, I’m onboarding Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as an inadvertent ally to explain my Employment New Deal – the remedy for that abuse, after her “I’m The Boss” address that went viral

    Business owners of the world, compatriots, I implore you: do not succumb to the pressure, do not allow yourselves to be, once again, coerced into the observance, commemoration, or worse – celebration, of the International Women’s Day, that is upon us March 8th! Courage, my friends. Courage.

    If anything, this holiday, once just and deserved, but now utterly contrived and outrageous, should be a memorial day – in memory of our lost civil rights, our lost dignity, our lost livelihood.

    For this is a topsy turvy employment order that we live in, in which the power rests not with the employer, the one who’s providing the jobs and paying the money, but with the female-employee, who’s getting the job and getting the money.

    The former carries all the burdens of both the business and the onslaught of one-sided, discriminatory, draconian, so-called-progressive legislation, aimed at “empowering” women in the workplace (was there ever a more diluted, more prostitutionalized trope?). This legislation is ever encroaching on the employer’s most basic of rights: to hire, employ, promote, and fire females, according to their business-wise value, or lack thereof. The latter, on the other hand, carries all the benefits, the privileges, and the protections of both the law and public discourse.

    The number one taboo subject in this context is the right of an employer to know the intentions regarding having children, i.e. if, when and approximately how many, of a female applicant, or a female employee who is being considered for promotion. This is the elephant in the room. 

    For decades now, women have misdirected their frustration with the overwhelming and near-impossible push-pull dynamic of work vs. family, towards “society”, rather than biology and their own spouses.

    The first is too amorphic and completely intangible. The second too “regressive”, deterministic or just plain a defeat of everything (parts of) feminism ever stood for, not to mention utterly futile. The third, too difficult to confront, as it carries a very tangible potential price to pay.

    Thus, employers became the immediate suspects, and then, eternal patsies. They are representatives of the “power structure” of society, they are tangible, easy to define, locate, and regulate. Most of them are men, so the “patriarchy” is conveniently built right into it. Let’s  penalize them for the pregnancies they didn’t have anything to do with: force them to hire us, not fire us, and promote us, even when we’re due in 24 hours, or even when we’ve just started the multi-year, physically and emotionally and mentally tasking roller coaster that is IVF (In vitro fertilization), which we don’t reveal, of course, because, well, haven’t women suffered enough? Don’t we deserve a break?

    Every business interaction of an employer and a female applicant or employee or candidate for promotion, is executed under a constant, palpable, implicit threat. It’s just there. Hovering.

    She can sue you for a myriad of “discrimination” claims. (Don’t even get me started on sexual harassment). A big business might suffer, but contain it. A small one can very easily go bust.

    So, who’s the real boss? Who’s really in power? Who’s the real victim? Exactly. And you want us to keep playing this game of pretend on International Women’s Day? Or Women’s History Month? No. No way. Enough is enough! This needs to change.

    A surprising ally can be found in the oh-so honorable Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. When regarding criticism of her Green New Deal, she said [1]: “I’m at least trying, and they’re not … If you’re trying, you’ve got all the power, you’re driving the agenda, you’re doing all this stuff… And I’m like: you try! You do it! ‘Cause you’re not! … So until you do it, I’m the boss! How ’bout that?”

    Well, I couldn’t agree more. Let us all join together, then, in an Employment New Deal: as long as it’s my business, my money, my risk, my hassle, my vision, my e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g, and as long as I’m the one who’s at least trying, and they, i.e. applicants and employees and candidates for promotion, are not, i.e. they are not the ones trying to build a business from scratch, and run it, and make it successful, and survive, let alone thrive, in this cut throat, competitive, global, economy, well, as long as these are the facts, then, the power is, as it should be, all mine, as the person who’s at least trying, so I’m the boss. 

    How ’bout that? 

    My first order of business, as The Boss, riding the tailwind of this immeasurable endorsement by the, arguably, most prominent socialist of the land, is to re-instate any and every question pertaining to the intentions, plans, and dreams, of female applicants, employees and candidates for promotion, regarding family and kids, including their true prioritization when these clash with work, as they do, on a daily basis.

    And the pièce de résistance question I hereby re-instate, which is sure to garner me the most maligned, slandered, vicious, ad hominem-s, the likes of which only the thoughtful, peace-loving, keyboard activists, and their fully-indoctrinated, cult-card-carrying, Gender Studies mentors, are capable of, is – drum roll please – wait for it – it’s really big – no employer who’s ever attempted it was ever heard from again – OK, here goes: are you currently pregnant or trying to be?

    Oh, the shock. The horror. How dare a business owner take into account, the number one pertinent factor before entrusting a woman his or her customers, reputation, professional know-how, business secrets and tricks-of-the-trade, funds, the lot? 

    As it is victimhood that the Zeitgeist dictates, assigns, and celebrates, at least let it be one of true merit. I have just laid before you the clear-cut case for employers’ plight. Surely that puts us right up there, on the top of the totem pole that is the Oppression Olympics. Surely this beats even the most downtrodden non-binary gender-fluid alphabet-soup person.

    At least there, we can finally be allowed to win. A Pyrrhic victory, no doubt. But one takes what one can get.

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    « Reply #2116 on: March 12, 2019, 11:48:56 pm »

     
    Interesting speech on improving race relations, to say the least.
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    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #2117 on: March 13, 2019, 01:25:03 am »
    Wait, we had an International Women's Day?  :scrutiny   Is that another pseudo holiday or some sort of "awareness" day foisted off on us by people who's paychecks have no relationship to any actual useful work they may or may not have done?   :facepalm   

    As far as the idea "The government stole your women." .  .  .  I think the Red Pill movement is pretty much over being upset about that and based on the ones that seem to constantly be in the news it doesn't strike me as much of a loss.   :coffee
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    « Reply #2118 on: March 13, 2019, 02:10:32 am »
    Wait, we had an International Women's Day?  :scrutiny   Is that another pseudo holiday or some sort of "awareness" day foisted off on us by people who's paychecks have no relationship to any actual useful work they may or may not have done?   :facepalm   

    As far as the idea "The government stole your women." .  .  .  I think the Red Pill movement is pretty much over being upset about that and based on the ones that seem to constantly be in the news it doesn't strike me as much of a loss.   :coffee

    Regarding the second half of your comment, the red pill movement is not really concerned with women. That's the whole point. It's nice to have one thing, any subject, where the subject of women doesn't take front and centre stage.

    Why do you think Elam and Peterson catch so much hell? Because they have the temerity to not talk about women for once  :cool .
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #2119 on: March 13, 2019, 02:41:59 am »
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    « Reply #2120 on: March 13, 2019, 04:30:26 am »


     :rotfl
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    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #2121 on: March 13, 2019, 11:11:27 am »
    Just shoot me.   :facepalm
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    « Reply #2122 on: March 13, 2019, 11:16:50 am »
    I saw the picture of the book.

    And threw up a little. :vomit
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    « Reply #2123 on: March 16, 2019, 01:52:32 pm »
    I have mixed feelings on this one. It is political theory from a Pick Up Artist, an interesting fellow by the name of Rollo Tomasi. Now, I believe PUA's are the darker side of the manosphere and I find their methods to be morally questionable and hedonistic. Dr. Peterson calls them "sociopathic", while Dr. Elam has made cases against them for not having a values centered approach (and for having a reckless lifestyle).

    Below is his evolutionary psychology theory on how female reproductive imperatives influence feminism and abortion politics.

    https://therationalmale.com/2019/03/11/womens-existential-fear/

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    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #2124 on: March 16, 2019, 05:06:15 pm »
    I'm glad its listed as a "theory" because this guy is as full of sh*t as a Christmas goose.   :coffee   He really should get out more.
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